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Reply #60 posted 05/26/09 1:56pm

Timmy84

AlexdeParis said:

SCNDLS said:


So you think Patti Labelle is primarily known as a singer of hooks only? Okay. shrug

That's not what she said or implied at all. Notice the "or somebody." Patti LaBelle is a singer, so a guest appearance by her would probably involve something like singing a hook. Missy is a rapper and singer, so her guest appearances usually involve both singing and rapping. That is all.
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Yeah she did say that, lol. I get it but that was still a weird lyric to me. Oh well. lol
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Reply #61 posted 05/26/09 1:59pm

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Timmy84 said:

AlexdeParis said:


That's not what she said or implied at all. Notice the "or somebody." Patti LaBelle is a singer, so a guest appearance by her would probably involve something like singing a hook. Missy is a rapper and singer, so her guest appearances usually involve both singing and rapping. That is all.
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Yeah she did say that, lol. I get it but that was still a weird lyric to me. Oh well. lol

shrug I always thought Patti was an interesting example to use since she isn't known for her guest appearances -- I can only think of Fourplay's cover of "After the Dance" off the top of my head -- but I always interpreted it as, "I don't wanna just sing; let me rap, too."
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Reply #62 posted 05/26/09 2:01pm

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AlexdeParis said:

SCNDLS said:


So you think Patti Labelle is primarily known as a singer of hooks only? Okay. shrug

That's not what she said or implied at all. Notice the "or somebody." Patti LaBelle is a singer, so a guest appearance by her would probably involve something like singing a hook. Missy is a rapper and singer, so her guest appearances usually involve both singing and rapping. That is all.
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Well, I got something totally different from "You ain't gon use me to just be singing hooks, what I look like Patti Labelle or somebody nigga?" Still don't make sense to me to mention Patti it's not apples to apples. shrug
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Reply #63 posted 05/26/09 2:01pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:



Yeah she did say that, lol. I get it but that was still a weird lyric to me. Oh well. lol

shrug I always thought Patti was an interesting example to use since she isn't known for her guest appearances -- I can only think of Fourplay's cover of "After the Dance" off the top of my head -- but I always interpreted it as, "I don't wanna just sing; let me rap, too."


She could've said Chaka Khan then. giggle Or someone lesser known like Shirley Murdock, lol.
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Reply #64 posted 05/26/09 2:02pm

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AlexdeParis said:

SCNDLS said:


So you think Patti Labelle is primarily known as a singer of hooks only? Okay. shrug

That's not what she said or implied at all. Notice the "or somebody." Patti LaBelle is a singer, so a guest appearance by her would probably involve something like singing a hook. Missy is a rapper and singer, so her guest appearances usually involve both singing and rapping. That is all.
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I get it too. I hear it as a compliment to Patti Labelle. Up to that point on the song, Missy was only singing the hook, so she's basically saying that she wants to rap, too. shrug
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Reply #65 posted 05/26/09 2:05pm

Timmy84

I mean, yeah, I get it, "why you got me singing hooks?" lol

I'm not trying to be sensitive that she used Patti's name like that, it could've been very well a compliment. lol

Who knows? lol But I don't know if she was on enough hooks as a singer then she was as a rapper. In fact, the only thing I remember about her guest appearance on a song by someone named Gina Thompson, she wasn't singing but she was going "yee-hee-hee-hee, ya" or something like that. lol That's the ONLY thing people remembered and then she got on songs basically rapping. lol She only sung on occasion ("Cold Rock a Party" and this song). lol
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Reply #66 posted 05/26/09 2:12pm

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I mean, yeah, I get it, "why you got me singing hooks?" lol

I'm not trying to be sensitive that she used Patti's name like that, it could've been very well a compliment. lol

Who knows? lol But I don't know if she was on enough hooks as a singer then she was as a rapper. In fact, the only thing I remember about her guest appearance on a song by someone named Gina Thompson, she wasn't singing but she was going "yee-hee-hee-hee, ya" or something like that. lol That's the ONLY thing people remembered and then she got on songs basically rapping. lol She only sung on occasion ("Cold Rock a Party" and this song). lol

Oh, she had plenty of guest appearances. Let's see...

That's What Little Girls Are Made Of - Raven Symone [OK, let's not mention this one]
The Things You Do - Gina Thompson
Steelo - 702
Cold Rock a Party - MC Lyte
Do Thangz (Main Pass Remix) - Men of Vizion
You Don't Have to Worry (Remix) - New Edition

She rapped on all of those but most of the singing was backing vocals.

Of course, she was all over most of Aaliyah's One in a Million
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Reply #67 posted 05/26/09 2:16pm

Timmy84

AlexdeParis said:

Timmy84 said:

I mean, yeah, I get it, "why you got me singing hooks?" lol

I'm not trying to be sensitive that she used Patti's name like that, it could've been very well a compliment. lol

Who knows? lol But I don't know if she was on enough hooks as a singer then she was as a rapper. In fact, the only thing I remember about her guest appearance on a song by someone named Gina Thompson, she wasn't singing but she was going "yee-hee-hee-hee, ya" or something like that. lol That's the ONLY thing people remembered and then she got on songs basically rapping. lol She only sung on occasion ("Cold Rock a Party" and this song). lol

Oh, she had plenty of guest appearances. Let's see...

That's What Little Girls Are Made Of - Raven Symone [OK, let's not mention this one]
The Things You Do - Gina Thompson
Steelo - 702
Cold Rock a Party - MC Lyte
Do Thangz (Main Pass Remix) - Men of Vizion
You Don't Have to Worry (Remix) - New Edition

She rapped on all of those but most of the singing was backing vocals.

Of course, she was all over most of Aaliyah's One in a Million


Yeah that's what I meant. lol I just realized this year that she was SINGING in the background on the Do Thangz remix in the beginning of the song! I don't think she sang on Raven's track or Gina's or 702's or New Edition's tho. shrug
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Reply #68 posted 05/26/09 2:33pm

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Timmy84 said:

AlexdeParis said:


Oh, she had plenty of guest appearances. Let's see...

That's What Little Girls Are Made Of - Raven Symone [OK, let's not mention this one]
The Things You Do - Gina Thompson
Steelo - 702
Cold Rock a Party - MC Lyte
Do Thangz (Main Pass Remix) - Men of Vizion
You Don't Have to Worry (Remix) - New Edition

She rapped on all of those but most of the singing was backing vocals.

Of course, she was all over most of Aaliyah's One in a Million


Yeah that's what I meant. lol I just realized this year that she was SINGING in the background on the Do Thangz remix in the beginning of the song! I don't think she sang on Raven's track or Gina's or 702's or New Edition's tho. shrug

Well, a little singing in the NE track ("hit 'em with the hee"), but yeah, you're right. She didn't really start singing a lot (well, since the Sista days) until her debut album. Let's stroll down memory lane. Missy had a pretty busy '96 for someone without an album:

The Things You Do (Bad Boy Remix)


Steelo (Remix)


Do Thangz (Main Pass Remix)
http://www.youtube.com/wa...BYDTyGuWVQ

You Don't Have to Worry (Bad Boy Remix)


Amazingly, the remix of "Cold Rock a Party" isn't on YouTube at all.
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Reply #69 posted 05/26/09 2:36pm

Timmy84

AlexdeParis said:

Timmy84 said:



Yeah that's what I meant. lol I just realized this year that she was SINGING in the background on the Do Thangz remix in the beginning of the song! I don't think she sang on Raven's track or Gina's or 702's or New Edition's tho. shrug

Well, a little singing in the NE track ("hit 'em with the hee"), but yeah, you're right. She didn't really start singing a lot (well, since the Sista days) until her debut album. Let's stroll down memory lane. Missy had a pretty busy '96 for someone without an album:

The Things You Do (Bad Boy Remix)


Steelo (Remix)


Do Thangz (Main Pass Remix)
http://www.youtube.com/wa...BYDTyGuWVQ

You Don't Have to Worry (Bad Boy Remix)


Amazingly, the remix of "Cold Rock a Party" isn't on YouTube at all.


She sure did. That's how I heard about her. People kept saying "when's her album coming out" then when it did come out, everybody had to have it! lol That video made me get it. lol I realized who was the original sample like a year or two afterwards, lol.
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Reply #70 posted 05/26/09 2:56pm

Cinnie

Timmy84 said:

That video made me get it. lol I realized who was the original sample like a year or two afterwards, lol.


which remix are you talking about here?
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Reply #71 posted 05/26/09 2:57pm

Timmy84

Cinnie said:

Timmy84 said:

That video made me get it. lol I realized who was the original sample like a year or two afterwards, lol.


which remix are you talking about here?


No not the remix:



Now name the sample. lol
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Reply #72 posted 05/26/09 2:58pm

Timmy84

I guess you meant to address to DaPrettyMan:

http://www.imeem.com/hiph...ing-missy/
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Reply #73 posted 05/26/09 3:05pm

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Timmy84 said:

Cinnie said:



which remix are you talking about here?


No not the remix:



Now name the sample. lol

"I Can't Stand the Rain" by Ann Peebles? That's too easy.
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Reply #74 posted 05/26/09 3:07pm

Timmy84

AlexdeParis said:

Timmy84 said:



No not the remix:



Now name the sample. lol

"I Can't Stand the Rain" by Ann Peebles? That's too easy.


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Reply #75 posted 05/26/09 3:47pm

Cinnie

I thought you were talking about "Cold Rock A Party (Remix)" and the Diana Ross loop, I'm like daamn, don't tell me Timmy84 Motown expert didn't know "Upside Down" until Puffy jacked it lol
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Reply #76 posted 05/26/09 3:54pm

Timmy84

Cinnie said:

I thought you were talking about "Cold Rock A Party (Remix)" and the Diana Ross loop, I'm like daamn, don't tell me Timmy84 Motown expert didn't know "Upside Down" until Puffy jacked it lol


Nah we weren't talking about that. lol And the day I don't know a Motown sample is the day the devil sits in the freezer. lol
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Reply #77 posted 05/26/09 3:57pm

Cinnie

Timmy84 said:

Cinnie said:

I thought you were talking about "Cold Rock A Party (Remix)" and the Diana Ross loop, I'm like daamn, don't tell me Timmy84 Motown expert didn't know "Upside Down" until Puffy jacked it lol


Nah we weren't talking about that. lol And the day I don't know a Motown sample is the day the devil sits in the freezer. lol


lol I was hoping for a story when 1996 was when you went into the Hitsville vaults after hearing Missy
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Reply #78 posted 05/26/09 4:02pm

Timmy84

Cinnie said:

Timmy84 said:



Nah we weren't talking about that. lol And the day I don't know a Motown sample is the day the devil sits in the freezer. lol


lol I was hoping for a story when 1996 was when you went into the Hitsville vaults after hearing Missy


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Nah I first got the knowledge when I was 13. In '97, that's when Puffy started just sampling as if he was PASTING the motherfucking songs on there. It was hard to NOT know what track was sampled from "My Life" on down! falloff That's when I began my dislike of Puff the Un-Magic One. lol I got really pissed when he sampled Led Zeppelin and I didn't even know Led Zep like that! lol Missy wasn't on a song with a R&B sample as far as I know besides "Cold Rock" until "Supa Dupa Fly". lol
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Reply #79 posted 05/26/09 4:12pm

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I like how everyone missed the fact that Angie Martinez dropped 2 albums. But it's cool. The more successful one spawned the single "If I Could Go". Has a video and all. Then she resumed her successful DJ/hosting career.
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Reply #80 posted 05/26/09 4:21pm

Cinnie

Timmy84 said:

In '97, that's when Puffy started just sampling as if he was PASTING the motherfucking songs on there.


omg I think we might have to refer to excessive sampling as "PASTING" from now on.

as in,

Timmy84 said:



Now what song was pasted here?
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Reply #81 posted 05/26/09 4:26pm

Timmy84

Cinnie said:

Timmy84 said:

In '97, that's when Puffy started just sampling as if he was PASTING the motherfucking songs on there.


omg I think we might have to refer to excessive sampling as "PASTING" from now on.

as in,

Timmy84 said:



Now what song was pasted here?


giggle Good one. lol
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Reply #82 posted 05/26/09 4:38pm

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Reply #83 posted 05/26/09 4:41pm

Timmy84

Cinnie said:



whistle "I wanna go outsiiiiide in the raiiiiin..." whistle
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Reply #84 posted 05/26/09 4:42pm

Cinnie

Just had to take a second there for the KING PASTE JOB lol
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Reply #85 posted 05/26/09 4:43pm

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Timmy84 said:

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Yeah, I used to ALWAYS clown her when that line came up - Bitch, you ain't even CLOSE to bein' Patti!


It interests me that while Missy has been a decent rapper (far from one of the best), writer and producer, that she was at best a marginal singer. Also since when Patti sing just hooks? falloff This is a diva we're talking about. I guess at the time, some rappers were so cocky they say anything. I heard a few talking about "man who you think I am, Marvin Gaye or Smokey Robinson or some shit?" lol

But I'm sure we'd be like "n***a, you ain't no damn Smokey!" lol

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Reply #86 posted 05/26/09 5:07pm

Harlepolis

Mary can't dance worth a goddamn,,,,she up there fuckin' around doing the cobra twist lol I love her 2-bits, man evillol
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Reply #87 posted 05/26/09 5:20pm

Timmy84

Harlepolis said:

Mary can't dance worth a goddamn,,,,she up there fuckin' around doing the cobra twist lol I love her 2-bits, man evillol


You know she don't even give a damn. falloff
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Reply #88 posted 05/26/09 6:39pm

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Harlepolis said:

Mary can't dance worth a goddamn,,,,she up there fuckin' around doing the cobra twist lol I love her 2-bits, man evillol


Hell, you know Mary was high as kite back then and that's ALL she could do.
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Reply #89 posted 05/26/09 6:48pm

Timmy84

MuthaFunka said:

Harlepolis said:

Mary can't dance worth a goddamn,,,,she up there fuckin' around doing the cobra twist lol I love her 2-bits, man evillol


Hell, you know Mary was high as kite back then and that's ALL she could do.


I think she was drunk in that video. She quit coke cold turkey a few months before making this video.
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