CalhounSq said:

Calhoun, my girl, you have inspired my new signature. God bless you.

Timmy84 said:

TD3 said:

Richard Simmons could never use that.

MuthaFunka said:

You are so wrong!

TD3 said:

Timmy84 said:

That's a very good point. I have come to the conclusion that RnB has turned into what many call Hip-pop. Back in the day, an RnB singer didn't have a rap artist on 90% of the album, but that seems to be the norm now. New Soul or neo soul, which ever title works really, is like a saving grace to me.

CalhounSq said:

Thank You! If the music is good, it'll still be good no matter what title it's given. Thanks for the recommends btw.

estelle81 said:

Except when they DO collaborate with hip-hop artists even if it's the ones we LIKE, like Q-Tip or The Roots' Black Thought, it still seems wrong and bizarre. You're a soul artist and yet adding a hip-hop addition just takes away from its meaning whether it's neo-soul or just soul music period. I never dug D'Angelo's duets with Method Man and Redman despite the fact I used to dig Meth & Red. They didn't sound right together. Neither did Erykah and her "collaborations" with Andre and Common.
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No.

Timmy84 said:

I agree, but you have to admit that nowadays, RnB artists seem to just sing the hooks to their own songs and the bulk of the songs on their albums either have a rap verse somewhere in them or is produced by a hip-hop producer. Babyface used to produce and write for almost every RnB singer. What happened to him? Did he finally run out of hits, because dude was creating some outstanding songs.

For me, it's very much like when I listen to hip-hop and rap from the 80s as apposed to this drivel they constantly play on the radio nowadays. If it's a hip-hop artist or rapper who can deliver an intellectual message, than I can accept it, but when it's T-Pain vocodering some nonsense bull-dookie all over the track, I'm totally agree with you. I just can't insult all rappers because a few choose to be fucktards. Common is one of the current hip-hop artists that I put on a totally different side of the rap music spectrum, but that's just me. BTW....What song did D'Angelo do with Method Man and Redman because I gotta hear that shit.

estelle81 said:

Some song called "Left & Right", it was a buzz single, I think, for the VOODOO album (which in general didn't really need them). I saw a video of it, D'Angelo has his Afro out and is playing guitar (or is pretending to play guitar, not too sure). It was the "set-up" for "How Does It Feel (AKA Untitled)".

estelle81 said:

Timmy84 said:

Thank you Timmy.

Vendetta1 said:

You're very welcome.

estelle81 said:

You did ask question before others went off on a tangent. (It's all Timmy's fault)

Frank McComb - "Straight From The Vault"? "Live In Alanta Vol. 2"
This was released in 05 but it's a smooth Cd. Checkout some of his other albums, tight. CD Baby and iTunes.

Nic Jackson Band - http://www.myspace.com/th...acksonband
Ran up on this guy, nice couple of cuts doesn't have a deal yet or made a full Cd yet.

TD3 said:

Sowwy.

Timmy84 said:

AKA "The Booty Nekkid" song...at least that's what I used to call it. Man, dudes used to hate on that video the moment I would bring it up. They'd be like, "What's up with that shit?" Haters.

bboy87 said:

I like this list better. Don't care for Raheem DeVaughn. He is
overrated imo. Dig anthony hamilton though.

phunkdaddy said:

Yeah, I'm not a big Raheem fan either; nor Dwele. But chicks dig those 2 dudes for some reason.

MuthaFunka said:

They are by no means carrying on with the 60s/80s traditions of Soul music. "Neo-Soul" is nothing but contemporary R&B ... just a bit better than what you usually get to hear on commercial radio today. But this has little to do with vintage Soul.

MrSoulpower said:

I disagree. Now, it can be disputed that SOME artists don't strive for that mark, but the heavies in the genre do.

MuthaFunka said:

How so? Everything is different. From the recording technology to production to marketing to vocal style to music production to promotion. It's a whole different bag.

The new artists act like they do it the oldschool way, but that's little more than a marketing scheme. It's pure image, and people fall for it.

Call it what you want...

I really like Goapele's "Change it All" CD. ...Very soulful!

MrSoulpower said:

Now these artists below are an example of artists who strive for that style. But they got zero to do with what's considered the Neo Soul movement. Neo Soul is pop music.






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MuthaFunka said:

Both Dwele and Raheem put me to sleep but Anthony's my dawg!

MrSoulpower said:

Now that's what I call SOUL MUSIC, vol. 1: The New Millennium

Timmy84 said:

Exactly. And it's contemporary. Neo-Soul artists don't strive for that mark, they strive for making cash! And they use whatever works from the oldschool to cash in and make people believe that they are somewhat oldschool, too. They're not.

Timmy84 said:

I'm glad to hear someone co-sign on them. Really, the only Dwele cut I like is "Find a Way", and I really only felt the Switch sample on Raheem's Love Experience.

MrSoulpower said:

Well, of COURSE the technology is gonna be different, it's 40 years later. You want people recording on 8/16 tracks? Not gon' happen. What they ARE doing is keeping the soul music ITSELF around. It's not the "HOW" that's important.

Timmy84 said:

Yeah, Raheem tried too hard with his forced poetry on his 1st CD, that's what threw me off for him and Dwele's singing style is kinda boring.