daPrettyman said:

Some of these stories about Berry Gordy are reminding of a scene from the movie "Talk To Me" starring Don Cheadle, where his character, Petey Greene calls Berry Gordy a pimp.

I searched high & low for a clip, but all I could find was this interview with Jay Leno.

http://www.dailymotion.co...shortfilms

Scroll over to the 4:38 mark.

The scene that follows is even funnier/more controversial/shocking, but I couldn't find it anywhere!
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anc282 said:

Can you believe that I have that movie on DVD but I've never seen it yet?? My girlfriend bought me the DVD last year and I have yet to open it.She said I would love it because it takes place in the 70s (my favorite era).I'm soooo busy these days that I actually have to make time to watch movies.

Man, Berry didn't wanna waste time and this was a problem for his artists, Stevie and Marvin wanted to put it out in the way they feel, Berry was all about the money, lol. "Come with a record out quick". That was his motto for about 29 years when he was in control of Motown.

Timmy84 said:

Now, looking back, Berry was right. It's all about keeping the artist in the public eye and keeping them current. After Berry stepped down and sold out, the label became a run-of-the-mill record company. The originiality was gone and the idea that built the label died.

By the time the 90s came along, there were different types of media and forms of technology and Motown couldn't keep up. Boyz II Men kept them afloat in the 90s. Now, I don't think they have a true "cash-cow". Maybe India.Arie, but she's not selling 3 million albums.

daPrettyman said:

That's true. Nowadays, you hardly have a mogul who would try to push their artist nowadays unless they were made to be somebody else. And we're talking about a man who literally made unknowns from the street "STARS", ok? That's why you get this "wow, Motown was something else" because Berry pushed hard for his artists even if SOME pushed him back, lol.

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anc282 said:

Eventually it moves into the '70s and '80s, but it's mostly set in the '60s and it even covers the assassination of Martin Luther King. The film is brilliant.
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SoulAlive said:

If I get a chance,I'm gonna watch it this weekend.

Timmy84 said:

Marvin cancelled the original 'Love Man' album because he thought that the lyrics were "jive" I guess he wanted to go back and re-work the songs and create a more meaningful album,as opposed to a throwaway party album.

SoulAlive said:

That's EXACTLY what he did. Marvin was disappointed with "Love Man" so he shelved it. Motown wanted it out.

Just downloaded the "Love Man" album.

Listening to it now.

I'm finding that "Life Is Now In Session" and "Life Is For Learning" are almost exactly the same!

Lyrically AND musically.

anc282 said:

By the time you listen to the whole album you'll find there's no change in anything except that Marvin did things SLIGHTLY different.

I must ask this question.....

in the song "Praise," Marvin says, "Stevie we really dig you, hope you don't mind this riff from you."

Which song does he then play?

I could never figure it out.

anc282 said:

I always wondered that too BUT the song is Stevie-esque anyways.

maybe that's why he gave Stevie a shout out like that, cuz he was paying tribute.

Somebody else with a musical ear can probably answer the question for us though.

Anyways I'm thinking of giving the album a track for track analysis on my blog....nothing is guaranteed though.

anc282 said:

Go for it, lol.

I already did one for "Here My Dear" 2 years ago, so....yeah....probably.

I've been thinkin of it for a while now.

anc282 said:

I just read your review (and added my comment). And I have to say you're "right on it!" If you got the deluxe edition of "Here, My Dear" and listen to "Time to Get It Together" again, the unedited version is actually better, lol.

Cool.....thanks for that.

Again, it's about fifty bucks for the remastered edition of "Here My Dear."

It's always more expensive when you convert US dollars to Australian dollars.

anc282 said:

I see. I think you can get a sampling of the tracks on IMEEM, they have a lot of Marvin Gaye on there. I think some songs from the "Here, My Dear" sessions were posted there.

All right....I just did a review of "In Our Lifetime."

It's not quite ready yet, I'm still editing stuff & adding photos.

anc282 said:

Great!

At last....my review is complete.

anc282 said:

Great review.

thanks again....well, going by your comment, I think I'm gonna have to get that remaster now

anc282 said:

You won't regret it, the unedited version is definitely worth it. More jazzy you might say.

anc282 said:

Actually, Stevie was visiting Marvin during the In Our Lifetime sessions and suggested that riff for Marvin during the sessions for Praise. I can't remember if that info was in the liners or the Divided Soul biography. But that portion was written by Stevie.

bsk3601 said:

Oh OK, cool.

bsk3601 said:

Ah!, I understand now.

I just ordered 'Dream Of A Lifetime' and the 'Diana and Marvin' remastered CD,which completes my collection