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Printablelastdecember said: Your talent has nothing to do with whether you are signed or not signed, i mean how many times do we go through this. On one hand we are criticizing labels and other threads we are saying "bout time", so whats it gonna be??
The reason Kelly doesnt catch is easy....the US market can only handle one black female at a time, and that black female is Beyonce, but it has to be a black female that they feel "safe" with. She cant be different, look a little odd, etc...And for those who say Rihanna is black, well true, but she is Beyonce's twin. Beyonce (Michael) VS. Rihanna (Prince) sounds more spot-on then call Rihanna a Beyonce clone. And both women have a Jay-Z business connection. | |
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TonyVanDam said: lastdecember said: Your talent has nothing to do with whether you are signed or not signed, i mean how many times do we go through this. On one hand we are criticizing labels and other threads we are saying "bout time", so whats it gonna be??
The reason Kelly doesnt catch is easy....the US market can only handle one black female at a time, and that black female is Beyonce, but it has to be a black female that they feel "safe" with. She cant be different, look a little odd, etc...And for those who say Rihanna is black, well true, but she is Beyonce's twin. Beyonce (Michael) VS. Rihanna (Prince) sounds more spot-on then call Rihanna a Beyonce clone. And both women have a Jay-Z business connection. It's been rumored more than a business connection.  **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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TonyVanDam said: lastdecember said: Your talent has nothing to do with whether you are signed or not signed, i mean how many times do we go through this. On one hand we are criticizing labels and other threads we are saying "bout time", so whats it gonna be??
The reason Kelly doesnt catch is easy....the US market can only handle one black female at a time, and that black female is Beyonce, but it has to be a black female that they feel "safe" with. She cant be different, look a little odd, etc...And for those who say Rihanna is black, well true, but she is Beyonce's twin. Beyonce (Michael) VS. Rihanna (Prince) sounds more spot-on then call Rihanna a Beyonce clone. And both women have a Jay-Z business connection. Id disagree with that simply because the Michael vs Prince thing was all about popularity at the time, the two are not even doing similar music, and they SURELY are on different planets musically, and on a different path. As for Beyonce and Rihanna, they are doing very similar music, using very similar writers and doing very similar videos "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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daPrettyman said: TonyVanDam said: Beyonce (Michael) VS. Rihanna (Prince) sounds more spot-on then call Rihanna a Beyonce clone. And both women have a Jay-Z business connection. It's been rumored more than a business connection. And yes, the F***ing For Tracks lifestyle is still ongoing within the music industry. | |
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lastdecember said: TonyVanDam said: Beyonce (Michael) VS. Rihanna (Prince) sounds more spot-on then call Rihanna a Beyonce clone. And both women have a Jay-Z business connection. Id disagree with that simply because the Michael vs Prince thing was all about popularity at the time, the two are not even doing similar music, and they SURELY are on different planets musically, and on a different path. As for Beyonce and Rihanna, they are doing very similar music, using very similar writers and doing very similar videos I would have to disagree with you, simply because during the Michael, Prince, era, their popularity stemmed from the fact that both of them WERE indeed very talented. Yes, they had posters of them selling everywhere but they for the most part, always came out with great music and were again very talented. The music of today is just the opposite...It is based more on popularity and looks than on talent. Whenever an artist is seen too much, people have a tendency to get tired of them case in point, Beyonce. That never was the case back in the day. I remember at one point, Michael was on three different songs at the same time and nobody said a word....Now, if an artist is in the news or appear on more than one recording at time, people get pissed....Wow how times have changed.... "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" |
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lastdecember said: Your talent has nothing to do with whether you are signed or not signed, i mean how many times do we go through this. On one hand we are criticizing labels and other threads we are saying "bout time", so whats it gonna be??
The reason Kelly doesnt catch is easy....the US market can only handle one black female at a time, and that black female is Beyonce, but it has to be a black female that they feel "safe" with. She cant be different, look a little odd, etc...And for those who say Rihanna is black, well true, but she is Beyonce's twin. Hell no. Beyonce's never made a video like Disturbia. | |
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TonyVanDam said: daPrettyman said: It's been rumored more than a business connection. And yes, the F***ing For Tracks lifestyle is still ongoing within the music industry.  **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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purplesweat said: lastdecember said: Your talent has nothing to do with whether you are signed or not signed, i mean how many times do we go through this. On one hand we are criticizing labels and other threads we are saying "bout time", so whats it gonna be??
The reason Kelly doesnt catch is easy....the US market can only handle one black female at a time, and that black female is Beyonce, but it has to be a black female that they feel "safe" with. She cant be different, look a little odd, etc...And for those who say Rihanna is black, well true, but she is Beyonce's twin. Hell no. Beyonce's never made a video like Disturbia. That's true, but Beyonce doesn't really make visually stunning videos. Rihanna has to because she can't dance. People would rather see Beyonce and shake her ass. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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TonyVanDam said: lastdecember said: Your talent has nothing to do with whether you are signed or not signed, i mean how many times do we go through this. On one hand we are criticizing labels and other threads we are saying "bout time", so whats it gonna be??
The reason Kelly doesnt catch is easy....the US market can only handle one black female at a time, and that black female is Beyonce, but it has to be a black female that they feel "safe" with. She cant be different, look a little odd, etc...And for those who say Rihanna is black, well true, but she is Beyonce's twin. Beyonce (Michael) VS. Rihanna (Prince) sounds more spot-on then call Rihanna a Beyonce clone. And both women have a Jay-Z business connection. Is it legal 2 have Prince in the same thouight process with these people? | |
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Kelly Rowland Talks Columbia Records 'Drop' In Statement, Cites 'New Amicable Direction' March 31 Link Kelly Rowland says rumors that her split with Columbia Records, revealed Monday, having to do with not being "commercially viable" are false. In a statement obtained early Tuesday, Rowland and Columbia reveal that the former "Like This" singer will not only continue on at Columbia as part of Destiny's Child but the split was truly amicable and her decision. "Because Columbia Records has been my home base as an artist for more than a decade, the decision to move out on my own required a lot of soul-searching," says Kelly Rowland. "As a solo artist, I felt the need to explore new directions, new challenges, and new freedoms outside my comfort zone and my friends and family at Columbia have been incredibly understanding about my evolution. I want to thank everyone at Columbia for the love and support they've shown and I will never forget how many good times we've had over the years." While at Columbia, Rowland helped to earn Destiny's Child (including Beyonce and Michelle Williams) the distinction of becoming the #1 female pop group of all time, a fact that Columbia/Epic Label Music Group CEO Rob Stringer can't ignore. "Kelly Rowland is one of our finest contemporary artists and a musical force to be reckoned with," says Stringer. "It has been a privilege and a pleasure to work with Kelly and we will continue our working relationship with her under the Destiny's Child moniker. The decision for Kelly to seek other opportunities for her solo career was agreed upon mutually, and any reports to the contrary are false." As they say... there you have it. In addition to selling more than 50 million records worldwide with Destiny's Child, Kelly Rowland sold more than 4 million copies globally of her two solo albums: 2002's "Simply Deep" and 2007's "Ms. Kelly," which included the international #1 chart-topping single, "Work." | |
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Kelly Rowland Talks Columbia Records 'Drop' In Statement, Cites 'New Amicable Direction' March 31 Link Kelly Rowland says rumors that her split with Columbia Records, revealed Monday, having to do with not being "commercially viable" are false. In a statement obtained early Tuesday, Rowland and Columbia reveal that the former "Like This" singer will not only continue on at Columbia as part of Destiny's Child but the split was truly amicable and her decision. "Because Columbia Records has been my home base as an artist for more than a decade, the decision to move out on my own required a lot of soul-searching," says Kelly Rowland. "As a solo artist, I felt the need to explore new directions, new challenges, and new freedoms outside my comfort zone and my friends and family at Columbia have been incredibly understanding about my evolution. I want to thank everyone at Columbia for the love and support they've shown and I will never forget how many good times we've had over the years." While at Columbia, Rowland helped to earn Destiny's Child (including Beyonce and Michelle Williams) the distinction of becoming the #1 female pop group of all time, a fact that Columbia/Epic Label Music Group CEO Rob Stringer can't ignore. "Kelly Rowland is one of our finest contemporary artists and a musical force to be reckoned with," says Stringer. "It has been a privilege and a pleasure to work with Kelly and we will continue our working relationship with her under the Destiny's Child moniker. The decision for Kelly to seek other opportunities for her solo career was agreed upon mutually, and any reports to the contrary are false." As they say... there you have it. In addition to selling more than 50 million records worldwide with Destiny's Child, Kelly Rowland sold more than 4 million copies globally of her two solo albums: 2002's "Simply Deep" and 2007's "Ms. Kelly," which included the international #1 chart-topping single, "Work." I didn't know "Work" hit it big internationally. I hope she continues to do well in her solo career. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Kelly Rowland Talks Columbia Records 'Drop' In Statement, Cites 'New Amicable Direction' March 31 Link Kelly Rowland says rumors that her split with Columbia Records, revealed Monday, having to do with not being "commercially viable" are false. In a statement obtained early Tuesday, Rowland and Columbia reveal that the former "Like This" singer will not only continue on at Columbia as part of Destiny's Child but the split was truly amicable and her decision. "Because Columbia Records has been my home base as an artist for more than a decade, the decision to move out on my own required a lot of soul-searching," says Kelly Rowland. "As a solo artist, I felt the need to explore new directions, new challenges, and new freedoms outside my comfort zone and my friends and family at Columbia have been incredibly understanding about my evolution. I want to thank everyone at Columbia for the love and support they've shown and I will never forget how many good times we've had over the years." While at Columbia, Rowland helped to earn Destiny's Child (including Beyonce and Michelle Williams) the distinction of becoming the #1 female pop group of all time, a fact that Columbia/Epic Label Music Group CEO Rob Stringer can't ignore. "Kelly Rowland is one of our finest contemporary artists and a musical force to be reckoned with," says Stringer. "It has been a privilege and a pleasure to work with Kelly and we will continue our working relationship with her under the Destiny's Child moniker. The decision for Kelly to seek other opportunities for her solo career was agreed upon mutually, and any reports to the contrary are false." As they say... there you have it. In addition to selling more than 50 million records worldwide with Destiny's Child, Kelly Rowland sold more than 4 million copies globally of her two solo albums: 2002's "Simply Deep" and 2007's "Ms. Kelly," which included the international #1 chart-topping single, "Work." Thanks for posting this. I wish her well in all her endeavors and hope she is successful  I always thought she had the best voice of DC.MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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purplesweat said: lastdecember said: Your talent has nothing to do with whether you are signed or not signed, i mean how many times do we go through this. On one hand we are criticizing labels and other threads we are saying "bout time", so whats it gonna be??
The reason Kelly doesnt catch is easy....the US market can only handle one black female at a time, and that black female is Beyonce, but it has to be a black female that they feel "safe" with. She cant be different, look a little odd, etc...And for those who say Rihanna is black, well true, but she is Beyonce's twin. Hell no. Beyonce's never made a video like Disturbia. Give her a few minutes she'll have one, she already shot 4 more videos for this album that are coming out, and one is Video Phone which is said to be like Madonnas "open your heart" "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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shorttrini said: lastdecember said: Id disagree with that simply because the Michael vs Prince thing was all about popularity at the time, the two are not even doing similar music, and they SURELY are on different planets musically, and on a different path. As for Beyonce and Rihanna, they are doing very similar music, using very similar writers and doing very similar videos I would have to disagree with you, simply because during the Michael, Prince, era, their popularity stemmed from the fact that both of them WERE indeed very talented. Yes, they had posters of them selling everywhere but they for the most part, always came out with great music and were again very talented. The music of today is just the opposite...It is based more on popularity and looks than on talent. Whenever an artist is seen too much, people have a tendency to get tired of them case in point, Beyonce. That never was the case back in the day. I remember at one point, Michael was on three different songs at the same time and nobody said a word....Now, if an artist is in the news or appear on more than one recording at time, people get pissed....Wow how times have changed.... Its not the talent of Michael and Prince, the comparisons between them are zero, they are nothing alike, the comparisons came from people who were just trying to stir up shit, but these two are nothing alike, sure they are talented and were in the "public heydays" at similar times, but so was George Michael, Bruce Springsteen,Madonna, but comparing them all is just as ludacris as Prince and Michael "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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purplesweat said: Hell no. Beyonce's never made a video like Disturbia. Lol I agree. I really don't get when people say that Rihanna is copying Beyonce or that they are alike. To me they aren't alike at all. Aside from the fact that they've used some of the same songwriters and management, I don't see the similarities. Beyonce's music is mostly r&b, whereas Rihanna's is music is mostly dance/pop. Of course she does r&b too, as well as some (lite) dancehall but her music isn't typical r&b. To me, Rihanna (or her songwriters, whatever you want to say) takes more chances with her music and image. A lot of black r&b female singers would be hesitant to sing songs like "Shut Up & Drive" or "Disturbia" or do a song with Maroon 5. Their images are totally different too. I think Rihanna is more edgy in every way. I mean someone like Beyonce would never cut off all her hair like Rihanna did. It may seem like a small thing, but cutting her hair off was one way Rihanna seperated herself from the pack. That of course and her taking chances with her music, so overall, nope, I don't see the similarities. [Edited 3/31/09 15:56pm] "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ 
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lastdecember said: shorttrini said: I would have to disagree with you, simply because during the Michael, Prince, era, their popularity stemmed from the fact that both of them WERE indeed very talented. Yes, they had posters of them selling everywhere but they for the most part, always came out with great music and were again very talented. The music of today is just the opposite...It is based more on popularity and looks than on talent. Whenever an artist is seen too much, people have a tendency to get tired of them case in point, Beyonce. That never was the case back in the day. I remember at one point, Michael was on three different songs at the same time and nobody said a word....Now, if an artist is in the news or appear on more than one recording at time, people get pissed....Wow how times have changed.... Its not the talent of Michael and Prince, the comparisons between them are zero, they are nothing alike, the comparisons came from people who were just trying to stir up shit, but these two are nothing alike, sure they are talented and were in the "public heydays" at similar times, but so was George Michael, Bruce Springsteen,Madonna, but comparing them all is just as ludacris as Prince and Michael The main reason why there was a comparison between Michael and Prince was because they were at the time, very successful at what at their craft and seemed to have the formular for success. This is why they were compared, not just to "stir" things up as you put it. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" |
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The bottom line is this: it was all about Beyonce from the get go. She's the it girl and most of the money and exposure will go to her. | |
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Cinnamon234 said: purplesweat said: Hell no. Beyonce's never made a video like Disturbia. Lol I agree. I really don't get when people say that Rihanna is copying Beyonce or that they are alike. To me they aren't alike at all. Aside from the fact that they've used some of the same songwriters and management, I don't see the similarities. Beyonce's music is mostly r&b, whereas Rihanna's is music is mostly dance/pop. Of course she does r&b too, as well as some (lite) dancehall but her music isn't typical r&b. To me, Rihanna (or her songwriters, whatever you want to say) takes more chances with her music and image. A lot of black r&b female singers would be hesitant to sing songs like "Shut Up & Drive" or "Disturbia" or do a song with Maroon 5. Their images are totally different too. I think Rihanna is more edgy in every way. I mean someone like Beyonce would never cut off all her hair like Rihanna did. It may seem like a small thing, but cutting her hair off was one way Rihanna seperated herself from the pack. That of course and her taking chances with her music, so overall, nope, I don't see the similarities. [Edited 3/31/09 15:56pm] Completely agree. Rihanna has edge. I love Beyonce, but she's never done anything remotely "edgy". | |
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Graycap23 said: TonyVanDam said: Beyonce (Michael) VS. Rihanna (Prince) sounds more spot-on then call Rihanna a Beyonce clone. And both women have a Jay-Z business connection. Is it legal 2 have Prince in the same thouight process with these people? Figure of speech on my part. Don't panic! | |
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lastdecember said: purplesweat said: Hell no. Beyonce's never made a video like Disturbia. Give her a few minutes she'll have one, she already shot 4 more videos for this album that are coming out, and one is Video Phone which is said to be like Madonnas "open your heart" I don't give a damn how much of a cut-throat business man Matthew Knowles is, Madonna should send a "cease and resist" order to stop him and Beyonce from doing that!   | |
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shorttrini said: lastdecember said: Its not the talent of Michael and Prince, the comparisons between them are zero, they are nothing alike, the comparisons came from people who were just trying to stir up shit, but these two are nothing alike, sure they are talented and were in the "public heydays" at similar times, but so was George Michael, Bruce Springsteen,Madonna, but comparing them all is just as ludacris as Prince and Michael The main reason why there was a comparison between Michael and Prince was because they were at the time, very successful at what at their craft and seemed to have the formular for success. This is why they were compared, not just to "stir" things up as you put it. But they arent anything alike, the media at the time compared them, because they were black males, it was that simple. Just like when Prince came out he was compared 24/7 to Hendrix even though he sounds and plays nothing like hendrix or even in the same structure, he is indentical to Carlos Santana, but since Hendrix was a black dude that played every black guy since has been compared to him. Michael and Prince and all the 80's heyday hitmakers are nothing alike but were always compared, but there music is NOT interchangeable. However Beyonce and Rihanna are very similar, and SORRY people one Edgy song like "disturbia" which if thats your idea of EDGE, wow you really need to get some "edge", its very interchangeable Rythym Pop they are doing "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: shorttrini said: The main reason why there was a comparison between Michael and Prince was because they were at the time, very successful at what at their craft and seemed to have the formular for success. This is why they were compared, not just to "stir" things up as you put it. But they arent anything alike, the media at the time compared them, because they were black males, it was that simple. Just like when Prince came out he was compared 24/7 to Hendrix even though he sounds and plays nothing like hendrix or even in the same structure, he is indentical to Carlos Santana, but since Hendrix was a black dude that played every black guy since has been compared to him. Michael and Prince and all the 80's heyday hitmakers are nothing alike but were always compared, but there music is NOT interchangeable. However Beyonce and Rihanna are very similar, and SORRY people one Edgy song like "disturbia" which if thats your idea of EDGE, wow you really need to get some "edge", its very interchangeable Rythym Pop they are doing Nobody is saying that MJ and Prince are or were alike musically. But, they both were musically genius's of their era. They both knew what it took to move the crowd, write a good song and put on a show every night. Very few artist in the same era did this like those two, let along on a consistent basis so in that sense, they were alike, because each knew what it took to win. [Edited 3/31/09 21:11pm] "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" |
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daPrettyman said: Copycat said: In addition to selling more than 50 million records worldwide with Destiny's Child, Kelly Rowland sold more than 4 million copies globally of her two solo albums: 2002's "Simply Deep" and 2007's "Ms. Kelly," which included the international #1 chart-topping single, "Work." I didn't know "Work" hit it big internationally. I hope she continues to do well in her solo career. "Work" definitely got alot of play locally (I'm in New Zealand) It was maybe top 5. | |
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lastdecember said: shorttrini said: The main reason why there was a comparison between Michael and Prince was because they were at the time, very successful at what at their craft and seemed to have the formular for success. This is why they were compared, not just to "stir" things up as you put it. But they arent anything alike, the media at the time compared them, because they were black males, it was that simple. Just like when Prince came out he was compared 24/7 to Hendrix even though he sounds and plays nothing like hendrix or even in the same structure, he is indentical to Carlos Santana, but since Hendrix was a black dude that played every black guy since has been compared to him. Michael and Prince and all the 80's heyday hitmakers are nothing alike but were always compared, but there music is NOT interchangeable. However Beyonce and Rihanna are very similar, and SORRY people one Edgy song like "disturbia" which if thats your idea of EDGE, wow you really need to get some "edge", its very interchangeable Rythym Pop they are doing Lol, in comparison to most pop today, Rihanna's is edgy. She thankfully abandoned the Jamaican style pop and just went for straight up electro pop and experimented with her look and sound. Can you imagine Beyonce doing any kind of video like Umbrella or Disturbia? Or cutting her hair in a tomboy kind of fashion and getting loads of tattoos? Or daring to completely rip off a Prince song? [Edited 3/31/09 23:24pm] | |
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mynameisnotsusan said: daPrettyman said: I didn't know "Work" hit it big internationally. I hope she continues to do well in her solo career. "Work" definitely got alot of play locally (I'm in New Zealand) It was maybe top 5. Work was HUGE here (australia). But it's so mediocre. It's only huge here because any song that gets a ton of airplay here does well. | |
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Graycap23 said: She only needs one thing.....
What? Talent?  | |
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SCNDLS said: Graycap23 said: She only needs one thing.....
What? Talent? GC23 | |
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I heard a rumor yesterday that Destiny's Child will reunite in 2010.They don't really want to do it,but they owe Columbia Records one more album. | |
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