VoicesCarry said:

Hey hey HEY, there, Buddy! You leave Regina out of this!

VoicesCarry said

I think some of it now is that she's become so successful on the US charts that there is somewhat of an automatic backlash that occurs . "Oh heres just another Gwen, Britney or Christina doing the same same stuff." I liked her when she was just coming out in Eurpoe last spring and never imagined she would become sucessful here in the states. Its kind of a breath of fresh air and a kick in the butt to the american music scene. The talent is definitely there.

I think it's been a long time since new female singer doing dance pop got some attention. That combined with the outrageous appearance (Gaga's outfits are stupid and comparing herself to an artist like Grace Jones is laughable!), she's a star! That being said, the music is pretty lame in comparison to somebody like Annie who just has great songs and fewer gimmicks. Sadly, Annie's second album isn't coming out.

I would also add that while there seems to be some promise in her songs as high quality dance pop, she seems to always add dumb hip hop-isms to them to dumb them down for the masses....she might be genius! I would say that while Madonna and Janet aren't turning out there best material lately, it sure beats Gaga.
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paisleypark4 said:

Did you watch the "poker face" acoustic version youtube vid I posted above??

I'm not convinced by her singles so far (as far as the recordings/production goes), but you can't deny this gal has talent and charisma! More than alot of the artists talked about on this forum IMO!

Big potential for a lengthy and interesting career from what I've seen on those live clips.

The question that remains for me, is can she write a timeless song? Time's on her side, at 22

newpower99 said:

I love that she isn't the hottest broad with a model figure and still wearing those outfits

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

yeah. Part of the appeal is her I dont give a shit attitude. Regardless if her music is your cup of tea. You have to take notice. ... sounds alot like some chick 25 years ago.... but i didnt say that
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Im a big fan of the flesh colored panty hose from the Leno show a few months back

nd33 said:

I cant watch it yet because I'm at work but I will def. when I get home!
I dont care if she can write a timeless song...most artists dont ever..but write good ones that last for a while.

http://entertainment.time...746827.ece

Lady Gaga: ready for her close-up
The New York singing sensation talks fashion, Madonna and letting it all hang out



Dressed in a hot-pink, Swarovski-studded Versace cocktail dress, Lady GaGa is throwing some shapes in the mirror. She has won the battle of the lip gloss (her mouth is a deep red stain, as opposed to the pink preferred by the stylist, which was deemed, in her flat Manhattan drawl, “too Barbie, too pop. I mean, I love pop, but . . .” A neon-orange shade is also rejected as “too 1980s”, while the cabernet red, everybody agrees, is very “chic”). Now the in-yer-face, 22-year-old pop sensation is ready for her close-up.

Having already stormed both the charts and the tabloids this year in her assault on the UK music scene, Lady GaGa has been throwing her fluoro-tanned weight around all afternoon, arguing the toss over every tweak of her hair and make-up. Nobody seems to mind — in fact, it’s quite refreshing to meet a pop star who says things like, “In this time of recession, people love this hair — it’s so nostalgic!” when demanding a James Dean quiff; or, deadpanning, “I don’t get body anxiety — I don’t eat,” as she prances naked around the studio.

Even if you don’t know her current hits — Just Dance and Poker Face (which are, like, beyond catchy) — you know her look. She’s been papped in every airport, nightspot and studio imaginable this year in her trademark panties, vintage shades, shoulder pads and bullet-proof blonde bangs (dyed because, as a brunette, she kept being mistaken for Any Winehouse). You can imagine a million mini GaGas all over clubland come summer.

GaGa’s PA and former room-mate of four years, Jennifer, is surveying the scene closely. According to her, we are looking at “the next Madonna — I’m telling you. The determination, that knowledge of who you are, what you want and what the people want. That’s her”.

Born and raised in New York by an internet entrepreneur and his business-partner wife, Lady GaGa (real name Stefani Joanne Germanotta) had been hustling gigs on the underground club scene for three years before she finally won a place, aged 17, at the city’s esteemed Tisch School of the Arts. By her 20th birthday, she’d scored a record deal and was writing songs for Britney Spears and the Pussycat Dolls — two years later and her second single has reached No 1 in six countries. Now, fresh from her performance at the Brits with Pet Shop Boys, she is about to embark on her own headline tour.

The Lady GaGa show is compelling. A warm, charming, intelligent chatterbox, she is also a ridiculous show-off. There’s a story about the time that little girl GaGa greeted a new babysitter completely starkers, and it’s a trick she’s still pulling now, stripping off to change outfits as if it’s a dance routine. Her body is petite, soft and womanly, without a scrap of cellulite, and the tan so luminous that I have to ask where she gets it done. “In London, I see James at St Tropez,” she says, adding with a flutter of her 3in false lashes, “and yes, he’s seen my vagina.”

She writes and performs her own songs and claims to have “an artistic intuition about what’s coming next”, so the Madonna comparison is obviously one she gets a lot. “I guess there are a couple of things we innately have in common,” she drawls. “We’re both Italian-American women, we both started out in the New York underground scene — and we both became famous when we dyed our hair blonde.” But seriously, because this is one lady who takes her art very seriously, “I think what Madonna and I share is that we’re both fearless, we both have a lot of nerve”. Her influences range from Warhol to Bowie to Versace. “I appreciate any fashion label that is emblematic of a lifestyle. When I see Versace ads, it’s a whole way of living. Karl Lagerfeld? Brilliant.”

Arriving at the studio today in vintage Chanel worn with “future Fifties” hair and a bra, she describes her style as “a commentary on what it means to be a lady”. Her love of fashion came from her mother, who was “always very well kept and beautiful. She wore Ferragamo, Valentino, Paloma Picasso. Her taste is absolutely classic Italian”.

School did little to discourage her — she went to the Convent of the Sacred Heart School, in Manhattan, the same high school as Nicky and Paris Hilton, where the prom was “like a Ralph Lauren runway. There were some quite privileged young ladies in attendance”. It’s unlikely that GaGa was the prettiest or the most popular girl in class. Her oversized features suggest something of an ugly duckling transformation, while her intelligence would have alienated the likes of the Hiltons. Cue the “artsy, musical-theatre, nerdy girl who got good grades”, who learnt the tricks of self-reinvention, and a look that veered between “a bit too sexy and a bit strange. My girlfriends used to tell me that no matter what I was wearing, even zipped up to my neck in a parka, I looked naked”.

For somebody with such a liberal use of the sexual lexicon (she talks about celebrities “masturbating” by changing their image all the time, and describes performing as “like an orgasm”), GaGa is resolutely tight-lipped when it comes to the subject of boys. When quizzed about the men in her life (she was recently photographed out on the town with Mark Ronson, but insists he is just a “dear friend”), she allows a long pause before eventually flipping the question: “Who would you pair me with?”

It’s not as if she has anything to hide (she lets it all hang out in every other area), but GaGa won’t trade in tabloid fodder. I ask about her supposed feud with Christina Aguilera, and she simply states how much she admires Christina as an artist. What she will tell me is that her ex, Dada (together, were they DaGa?), is now one of her chief collaborators in the Haus of GaGa, the hand-picked creative team, including friends from art school, behind her costumes, stage sets and performances. “Dada is quite brilliant and we were crazy lovers, but I stopped it when we discovered what a strong creative connection we had. I didn’t want it just to be about careless love.”

She has said before that she has “decided to marry my art”, and the animal sounds emitted when GaGa sees the results of today’s shoot (“Oh my G-AAA-d!”) suggest that her work gives her all the satisfaction she needs. But when she later jokes that she will “die alone, surrounded by all my stage props and sketches”, there’s an edge to her voice. Perhaps, as Madonna would no doubt testify, this is the price you pay for superstardom.

When I ask how it feels to have become an icon overnight, GaGa scoffs at the suggestion. “People use that word so carelessly. I mean, don’t just freakin’ hand it to me on a plate because I dress cool. Make me earn it!”

Fixing me with a provocative stare from beneath the long lashes, she says: “I’m not going through the motions, you know. I don’t come here to have my hair and make-up done, take a few pictures and ask when my lunch is going to arrive. That’s not who I am.

“Every minute of this,” she continues, gesturing at the creative process unfolding around her, “is a completely brilliant and wonderful moment that I cherish. And it’s like, now you have everybody watching, GaGa, you’d better be f***ing great.”

LADY GAGA LOVES...

MAKE-UP Mac. “It’s New York. It’s so damn New York.”

PERFUME Ralph by Ralph Lauren or Marc Jacobs Daisy.

RECORD Let’s Dance by David Bowie.

BOOK Letters to a Young Poet by Rainer Maria Rilke.

SHADES “I love my Versace vintage.”

BAGS “Any by YSL.”

FOOD Italian.

SHOES “I don’t want to hurt anybody’s feelings. Right now, my vintage Chanel boots.”

PAINTING Nighthawks by Edward Hopper. “There’s something so eerie about it.”

FILM La Haine. “I love the way it’s shot.”

ANIMAL Man.




Another reason why I love Gaga, she's her own person. She's not some studio executive's puppet. Her public persona isnt some carefully calculated scheme cooked up by a PR person. She's not trying to be anyone but herself and she makes no apologies for who she is.

Nope not a fan she's trying to express new age crap but sounds like she's expressing a watermelon. I find vocalists alike are such victims of pop culture and I really can't see where musical talent fits with pretense, posing, lip syncing and repetitious sampled beats and sequences that is considered marketable. By all means have it and sell it to the masses out there but please don't call it the music industry.

Basically none of it is actually music. If it is then pick up a guitar and write me a tune. And if you can't, then just understand that music is a little harder than standing with a microphone posing and telling everyone how cool they are, not playing a single instrument or miming to a song someone else wrote. Sure, the contemporary music industry may have evolved into what we have now, but it is no longer the music industry. It is too focussed on everything but music to deserve to be called such. And singers who call themselves musicians, that also annoys me - you're a vocalist.

I prefer to continue to broaden my musical spectrum away from the mainstream.

Total Garbage to my ears

sounds like everything else they play on popular radio

VoicesCarry said:

I started liking her when you posted that acoustic version of Poker Face

nd33 said:

「 Fashion [Theme from the motion picture 'Confessions Of A Shopaholic'] ϟ Lady GaGa 」.2009
「 Fashion [Theme from the motion picture 'Confessions Of A Shopaholic'] ϟ Lady GaGa 」.2009

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Mara

VoicesCarry said:

"In the year 3009, the kids came out of new york and shot the paparazzi"

My homie was twittering from Lady GaGa's Fame Ball tour when she hit L.A. this past Friday and this is a pic from his phone. It was a SCENE up in there. GaGa wannabes all over the place, girls [and boys[!!]] with lightning bolts on their cheeks. AND THE SHOW WAS OFF THE HOOK, I heard. They were playing Nadia Oh[!] songs to warm up the crowd, Space Cowboy was DJing. Hot as hell up in there. Puff Daddy was in the audience with D.A. twittering.

She's coming back here to New York at the end of the month to do two shows on ONE NIGHT. Both are SOLD OUT LIKE HELL. lol The first show sold out in 30 minutes and then a day later they added a Late Show on the same night and that's sold out. I can't wait to go though 'cause Chester French is opening up for her.

I already saw her live in October during The Fame Ball album release concert and it was crazy up in there. So I GOTTA go to this.

And it seems like everybody from New York who's into dance pop is gonna be at that show. So many random people running up to me, like, "You going to see GaGa @ the end of the month?" I'm like DAMN, and this was on a subway platform, and I didn't know these girls and it was just random conversation. Well, I was playing the album loud on my iPhone. lol

typing fast, edit.
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Alej said:

Mara said:

PanthaGirl said:

So, because she's now mainstream (after YEARS of being underground in NYC), ooooh, she's easy to dismiss.

With respect to her songs, she has acoustic versions of most of them. So, yeah, pretty easy for her to pick up a guitar (or her preference, piano) and write them. Since she can actually play an instrument, it's not hard for her - that's how her songs are written. Yeah, she's a musician.

And, let's see - lip synching? Nope - she sings live. Pretense/posing? I guess David Bowie, Blondie, The Beatles, etc. sucked, too.
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paisleypark4 said:

Hey, maybe it's just not your cup of tea. I think the singles are fire and it's some of the best pop music in a long time. Clearly not the choice of wrong singles for her considering they've found such international success and the album reached a new chart peak 19 weeks after its release - because these singles are actually resonating enough with people for them to buy the album. An artist like Flo Rida may sell singles, but he doesn't sell albums.
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VoicesCarry said:

The same can be said for Soulja Boy who's both albums contributed nothing to the record company.

So I took a listen to the acoustic version and the live version that were posted on page 1..not bad! I wish Poker Face could have been just as good because i dont really like it at all. To me, poor choice of a single...production could have been taken to a better level. The acoustic really brings out the tune..its well written, not well produced. I will check her out a little bit more. Clearly not the wrong choice? Maybe my standards are just a little too high and mainstream taste may be a bit different. Usually I'm right but I think Poker Face is a poor followup tune.
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There's so much hype on her because of her friend PEREZ HILTON.

1DirXtion said:

There was hype on her long before Perez Hilton was on her. There was hype on her when she was smashing in Canada and I posted a thread about her and everyone was all "WHO?"

paisleypark4 said:

Or maybe you just don't like it! I don't like a lot of mainstream stuff, but JD and PF are by far two of my favourite singles in a long time.

:confused: Honestly, I don't get what the big deal is about most new artists. I usually wait for their second albums to drop before I start heaping praise and adoration upon them, but that's just me. Jennifer Hudson is really the only exception I've made in recent years but she killed it in 'Dreamgirls', so . I've heard lots of artists with outstanding debut albums but terrible sophomore albums, so that's probably why I don't go gaga (no pun intended) over new artists no matter how much I may dig their singles; and, after Lauryn Hill never made an official follow-up to her outstanding solo debut, I definitely don't go nuts over new artists because they may never be heard from again with the terrible state of the music industry at this point in time. Record labels seem to love to drop artists from their contracts nowadays no matter how popular or how many albums they've sold.

I love "Just Dance", but absolutely hate "Poker Face"...hated it the first time I heard it, because songs with repetition just seem lazy and juvenile to me and there seems to be such an abundance of these retarded adult nursery rhymes flodding the radio airwaves nowadays so I also find it unoriginal, but that's just me.

She made a statement about dying her hair blonde because people were mistaking her for Amy Winehouse, but now she just looks like Christina Aguilera (yes, Christina was rocking the platinum blonde look first), so her image really does nothing in garnering my attention...never really has; never really does to be totally honest because it's supposed to be about the music, right? If the music is outstanding, I wouldn't care if she was wearing a black Hefty trashbag with the drawstring as a belt and Ziplock baggies as footwear. Image is like sprinkles on top of the iced caked to me. What do I care about just a handful of sprinkles if their is no cake and icing for them to go on; and the cake and icing is the lyrics and beats. I will commend her for actually persuing her music career the old-fashioned way...through dedication, persistence, and hard-work. Plus, I admire the fact that she takes initiative to write and play instruments instead of paying others to do it for her.

The above article really just gave me mixed feelings about her, because as much as I love old Madonna, I don't like image-based media whoring as a means to put yourself in the spotlight at all and it's one of the things that always used to irritate me about Madonna back in the day. Honestly, I feel the same way about Katy Perry as I do about Lady GaGa. Katy also has a quirky persona, wears some pretty out-there outfits, and writes her own music, but I just can't commit to her until I hear her sophomore album. I absolutely love "Hot N Cold" and "Thinking of You", but can't stand "I Kissed A Girl" at all and wanted to smack her when she performed it at the Grammys. I don't hate the song because of the subject matter; I hate that song because that theme has been done already more than once so I find it stupid that people consider it controversial...especially in 2009.

I remain neutral until I hear their follow-ups. Just my

estelle81 said:

I'm sort of the opposite: I find the Poker Face lyrics witty. It always caught my attention because it was metaphorical, a bit subtle, and the lyrics allude to a lot more than what you might take from them at face evalue. She wrote it about her time and interactions with clients when she was a go-go dancer.

The issue with image is funny, because artists like Bowie or Queen were just as much about image as GaGa is...it's a matter of can she combine image with talent? I think so.

With respect to Katy, I think she's a writer who should not be singing. Gaga can sing and perform, Katy can't.
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Terri Nun (Berlin)


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Lady Gaga


Lady Gaga is copying a number of 80's icons, in voice, theatrics, and pop sounds. I think she is kind of refreshing, considering America has been lacking in the dance music department for at least a dozen years. Gaga is someone who has reinvented "the gimmick" that made so many of the 80's pop stars stand-out. While not original (see pics above), her's is at least reminiscent of camp, drag queens, mystery, fun, and dance. Sure she may never win female vocalist of the year, but she's selling a lot of albums and remaining on the charts consistently.

It's like abortion or gay marriage. If you are against it, don't do it. Don't like Lady Gaga? C'est la vie.

VoicesCarry said:

Oh yeah lol, I do remember that thread. I was listening to GaGa when she was just chinscratch/zero-replies material on the org. *_____* Like most of the bands I post about on here ...she just happened to take off. So I'm not going to like her less since she went mainstream.

It was actually pretty fun talking about GaGa on the org in the Summer of last year because the topics dropped like submarines and I could vibe to her music without anyone's "opinion." Same when I was talking about the Jonas Brothers on here in summer of '06, no one knew who they were, so I could just could just post them with virtually no backlash. My how times have changed with that lol.

Mara said:

Speaking of which, old post from July '08 :: http://prince.org/msg/8/277586