Marrk said:

I don't understand this thinking especially in relation to Prince. Looking at Prince as a musician, I don't think anyone who is a true lover of musicianship as an art can be concerned with sales. They've never gone hand in hand. Most love it for the artistry not for it's popularity or the evidence of its acceptance by the masses. This is at least how I feel about Prince. Success is great but at what cost, by whose standards and in relation to what? I think this applies to Prince even more because of his image and lyrical content. As I mentioned, I have no problem with him not being wildly popular or having number one singles every year but that's just me. The only thing that matters is if I appreciate and enjoy what he (or anyone for that matter) is putting out and the quality of their performances.
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Serena said:

Oh i am, but i'm not in denial.i dug deep. I wanted to know the truth beyond what i was faced with in the media. I only had to read the daily's about what really happened in court.

If i only believed what was fed to me by Rupert Murdoch's media channels and the like, i'd hate Mike too.

but some folk are just plain lazy.

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Serena said:

And that means what? There are people complaining about Prince's new music/image/whatever else they can complain about on this board right now. I'm sure you can dig up a few topics. Just because you put out music on a regular basis does not stop the haters from doing what they do best. And from the sounds of the cracks you keep making about MJ, you could give a damn if he put out a genius record...you've got personal beef.
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Marrk said:

Dude, come on. When the allegations first came up, I defended him and thought no way could that be true. But I was convinced otherwise after his interviews and payoffs. Just like I thought O.J. couldn't have done what he did either, until the facts came out.

Why can't we just discuss the music instead of the old tired who is better debate which in my opinion is pointless.

As far as this is an MJ thread - let's just keep it fresh and noncombative. It really is pointless arguing one against the other - because both artists are innovative and brilliant, and both have their own share of bias and narrow minded fans who will argue each counterpoint to the death. Let's move on.

If you like MJ then comment on this thread. If you don't then be pleased you don't have to read this thread and just focus on the other great Prince threads.

Swa

JackieBlue said:

Exactly. Who the hell cares about chart ratings, except for the record execs who are going to make money from it?

Swa said:

Thank you...why post shit in an MJ thread if you don't even like him?

MyNameIsPiper said:

You should have just pointed them to Prince:Music and more.

MyNameIsPiper said:

The point is, Prince IS putting out music and performing, not whether or not someone likes the output. Since MJ hasn't done anything for a bazillion years, then it must be the old stuff that keeps folks around.

If MJ put out new music that I liked, I'd enjoy it. But, yes, you're correct, I do tend to have beef with those who've mistreated children.

Swa said:

Is there some new MJ music we can discuss? It's a little tired to keep discussing Thriller after all these years.

Swa said:

That’s again, because Prince fans still feel that MJ is a threat to prince , that’s the only explanation why prince fans coming into this thread talking crap and nonsense and mentioning the child molestation allegations again, in a time MJ decides to resume his career....anyone can give another explanation why prince fans doing this ? i would be very happy to hear if anyone can give another explanation

There was a huge prince thread with more than 1000 pages on MJNO and you rarely see a negative comment about prince there ,fans were happy talking about their favorite artist... why? Because the problem is with you prince fans, Jealousy is what i see in your posts, .period.

And why do you feel that mj wants to break prince record by doing the o2 concerts? is prince the only single artist performed there? do you still live in the 80’s ? its really bewildering that no one can control the discussion on this board and keep it positive and the most laughable thing is when you blame Mj fans and calling them crazy and stupid , at least Mj fans never behaved like you, i have been on this board almost 2 years i have never trashed prince, I don't mind if you criticize MJ but do it when Criticism is due , don't criticize when there is really no need to do it, not in every freaking MJ thread.

MyNameIsPiper said:

Why do half the people here post negative crap about Prince? At least the site is about him.

I wish Michael's life would've been different, it's a shame because he is talented. Who knows what good music could've come out if he hadn't gone down the paths he did.

Serena said:

The people who discuss his music discuss ALL of his music (from Jackson 5 days to Invincible), and they can do it critically and without taking the piss at him personally...

I think that if you can't do that, then there's no reason for you to be in this thread. And, for the record, I feel the same way about the some of the so-called fans that post about Prince
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Serena said:

2004- The Ultimate Collection:
Sunset Driver
PYT demo
We Are The World demo
Cheater
Monkey Business
Fall Again
The Way You Love Me
Beautiful Girl
We've Had Enough

2008- Thriller 25
For All Time
Got The Hots


leaked-Love Never Felt So Good, Escape, Trouble, Starlight, Work That Body, She Got It, Serous Effect.....

Serena said:

Well, i wouldn't. No matter how great the music.

Serena, do a google search or something for the court transcripts on the MJ trial. The whole thing was just crazy. honestly.

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MyNameIsPiper said:

I'm here because I was curious to see how the 'news conference' went and it was the trainwreck I expected.

Serena said:

How was it a trainwreck. He arrived, he spoke, the fans went crazy and he left

Serena said:

Surely you coulda posted that somewhere else. As you read, we're trying to keep it positive in here.

Serena said:

Not really.TV's Sky News in the UK are calling him the 'most famous man on the planet'. Most front pages on UK newspapers too.

Marrk said:

No thanks, I did my transcript time during the O.J. trial. So I know how things get twisted from what actually occurs in court and what comes out of lawyers' mouths and the press. That's why I say that MJ's actions and his own words told me all I needed to know.

bboy87 said:

Thanks for the info, are any of them worth searching for (new ones, not old re-releases, etc..)?

Serena said:

Well, i don't know what the internet was like back then (!), but every word that was uttered in Mike's trial (defence or prosecution) is there for all to see online.

Plain as day, he didn't do anything untoward.

Serena said:

Got The Hots


Cheater


Monkey Business


The Way You Love Me


Escape


We've Had Enough

Marrk said:

I watched it and it was a wreck. Those papers will be back to their 'Jacko the Wacko' in due time. I think they're the ones who've been most cruel to him over the years with all the sensationalistic crap.

Marrk said:

Mark, dude, i think we should move on from this discussion about the allegations, if anyone wants to know what Truly happened in the trial and why Mj was acquitted then they should get the Court Transcript, other than that their sources are lies, fabrications and baseless. Transcripts don't lie, some people just don't want to believe that he was innocent, so the best thing to do is to move on:-D back on topic:

Mj maybe will do a three year tour


Randy Phillips, president and chief executive of AEG Live, told The Times that the ten London concerts would mark the first step of a three-year tour and the release of a new album. He said: “Surviving the press conference was the first step. We've a three-year plan for Michael Jackson and if it all goes well we will gross $400 million (£280million) in total.”

He confirmed that the singer could earn “probably something pretty close to” £50 million for the London shows. Future tours are likely to involve trips to New York, Paris and Mumbai.