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Printable2freaky4church1 said: How many actual masterpieces did they do? Many of their hit singles were merely ok. I was mostly talking about their big albums--the songs beyond the singles being really awful, not just ok. They could have at least tried writing better songs.
I guess its a matter of opinion and musical tastes. I only own a greatest hits and the "Abandoned Luncheonette" album (which is ok). I cannot judge too quick, but do you own all the albums and have listened to them all precisely? Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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2freaky4church1 said: I never said all of their singles were good..lol
Audience, you cheated. Some of those songs you posted were Semi-hit singles. The newer songs don't count, since their big stardom was in the late seventies--eighties. Some of the songs you posted were ok, but not great. My original point. How many actual masterpieces did they do? Many of their hit singles were merely ok. I was mostly talking about their big albums--the songs beyond the singles being really awful, not just ok. They could have at least tried writing better songs. 
First of all... 
...I AM NOT A CHEATER!!! 
Secondly, I doubt seriously that you'll find any Pop artist where every song on every album, not counting "the hit(s)" were consistenly an edition of masterpiece theatre. Feel free to elaborate on some of that rarified air. 
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 whatever, Hall & Oates was and always will be hott to me.I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Wasn't a huge fan but I respected them. They both could sing, write and play. They also hired some of the best musicians to back them up.
And their sucky moments were better than half the b.s. I hear on the radio today (being passed as popular music). | |
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i liked that duet with daryl hall and elvis costello.  | |
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The only full album of their's that I have is "Private Eyes" and I only bought the CD because it has some bonus 12 Inch versions on it. Other than that, I only have a few of their 45s and a greatest hits collection. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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2freaky4church1 said: Their albums were always really padded with crappy songs. The occassional hit single doesn't mean squat. They really did mostly suck.
These 2 albums didn't suck. 
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TonyVanDam said: 2freaky4church1 said: Their albums were always really padded with crappy songs. The occassional hit single doesn't mean squat. They really did mostly suck.
These 2 albums didn't suck.
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...Do What You Want, Be What You Are The Dramatics did a great rendition of this tune  | |
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You need to give this "devil's advocate" b/s up, freak. It keeps blowing in your face. 
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We are so used to the hit machine version of Hall And Oates that when we hear something by them that's not a hit it's shocking.
But with a more mature ear you'll hear a varied body of work. On a side note after watching the VH-1 Behind The Music on them I noticed after "Sara Smile" the love songs D wrote about his relationship with Sara weren't exactly "Walk happily into the sunset" songs. They had stuff going on. "Every Time You Away" "Open All Night" "Be What You Are". Even on Darryl's solo stuff like "Dreamtime." I'll fly the flag once again for my favorite song by them. Here's one I recently discovered also featuring Todd Rundgren on background vocals and guitar solos. [Edited 2/26/09 10:23am] "The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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carlcranshaw said: Here's one I recently discovered also featuring Todd Rundgren on background vocals and guitar solos.
Todd Rundgren produced (also played & sang)...  
...War Babies (1974) and played on their album Along the Red Ledge (1978) Along the Red Ledge had quite a few A-List participants: George Harrison Steve Lukather Robert Fripp Rick Nielsen Jay Graydon David Foster Steve Porcaro Gene Page Humberto Gatica tA Tribal Disorder
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heartbeatocean said: Even their singles sucked. So much so, I never ventured further into their other material. Perhaps that's unfair, but still.
  I kind of used to think this, but it was more a function of when I grew up & what I heard on the radio. Out of Touch was not great, and Maneater didn't excite me that much, or M- E- T- H- O- D... but the earlier songs like Rich Girl & She's Gone are pretty decent stuff.
They're like Michael McDonald, easy to think they're horrible, but they are coming from a decent place, musically. My Legacy
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Anxiety said: i liked that duet with daryl hall and elvis costello.
right! She's not the only flame. From Elvis' sell-out pop period that was actually underrated. My Legacy
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NDRU said: Anxiety said: i liked that duet with daryl hall and elvis costello.
right! She's not the only flame. From Elvis' sell-out pop period that was actually underrated. i'm not an elvis fan at all - i really don't like his voice very much - but i really do like "she's not the only flame" a lot, and of the songs i like of his, they're probably mostly from this "sell out pop" period. | |
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Anxiety said: NDRU said: right! She's not the only flame. From Elvis' sell-out pop period that was actually underrated. i'm not an elvis fan at all - i really don't like his voice very much - but i really do like "she's not the only flame" a lot, and of the songs i like of his, they're probably mostly from this "sell out pop" period. His sound was less abrasive at that time, though I like all his stuff. That period was the first that I liked, due to the obvious hit Every Day I Write the Book. I think the producer of the album also did Come On Eileen. but even though we liked it, he almost quit music after that album My Legacy
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2freaky4church1 said: Their albums were always really padded with crappy songs. The occassional hit single doesn't mean squat. They really did mostly suck.
In other words Hall & Oats are the poster children of Phil Spector philosophy about (who preferred singles over albums) LP's, "two hits and ten pieces of junk". | |
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theAudience said: carlcranshaw said: Here's one I recently discovered also featuring Todd Rundgren on background vocals and guitar solos.
Todd Rundgren produced (also played & sang)...
...War Babies (1974) and played on their album Along the Red Ledge (1978) Along the Red Ledge had quite a few A-List participants: George Harrison Steve Lukather Robert Fripp Rick Nielsen Jay Graydon David Foster Steve Porcaro Gene Page Humberto Gatica tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 I knew about "War Babies" but I didn't want to go overboard with my usual "I Dig Todd" posts. I recently heard "Is It A Star" from War Babies for the first time and it seemed like a weird Utopia track with D singing lead. On War Babies Todd made John step to the side and he did the bulk of the guitar work. [Edited 2/26/09 21:31pm] "The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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Hall & Oates!!! I've been a fan like forever!!!! 
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moderatorNDRU said: heartbeatocean said: Even their singles sucked. So much so, I never ventured further into their other material. Perhaps that's unfair, but still.
I kind of used to think this, but it was more a function of when I grew up & what I heard on the radio. Out of Touch was not great, and Maneater didn't excite me that much, or M- E- T- H- O- D... but the earlier songs like Rich Girl & She's Gone are pretty decent stuff.
They're like Michael McDonald, easy to think they're horrible, but they are coming from a decent place, musically. Yeah, I just have really strong negative associations from when I was a kid and hated their top 40 stuff. Now I don't feel qualified to judge really. | |
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carlcranshaw said: I knew about "War Babies" but I didn't want to go overboard with my usual "I Dig Todd" posts. Not a damn thing wrong with that. He's done a lot to "dig".
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