Eh, just ignore 'em.

PatrickS77 said:

I really really hope he tries to do most of it live, especially the ballads.
if he can give us something like this, then i will be happy!

fuck me ! jennifer batten on guitar on "workin day and night" is a sight to behold! I wonder if Slash is gonna come and do guitar!

Lol! watch the ass slap at 8.35! pimp slap or what! MJ really knows to fucking do it wild when live!
http://www.youtube.com/wa...ux-58dp8gQ
[Edited 3/15/09 10:49am]

WetDream said:

lol, some of you Prince fans ought to stop with the comparisons. The world knows that MJ is the ultimate showman.On stage, nobody like him (case in point - massive ticket sales).So Just stop it . btw, I like Prince too.

Serena said:

tell me about it

i don't think some of the Britney fanatics know what a live show is.

edit: oops, sorry that was supposed to say MJ fanatics (same thing? )
[Edited 3/15/09 11:11am]

Serena said:

Laughing about your own stupidity, huh? If all you MJ bashers would stop that stupid competition for once, you would be able to judge things more objectively! Bottom line, MJ's shows are physical more demanding than Prince's! And that is no judgement in who's shows are better, as I enjoy them both for what they are!

"PatrickS77 in half-intelligent-post-shock!!!!!"

Let's bring this back to reality.

Most of us here love both P and MJ....Christ, Off The Wall is one of the best albums EVER!! The BAD tour( I agree Rory, a fair bit of "lippy" going on..) is in my Top 10 concerts of all time...and I've seen a few.

It's just that, viewing MJ's recent history etc etc etc, most of us can't believe this will be the comeback of the century.....I will be the first to jump for joy if MJ comes back with a great show with great singing etc etc but can you MJ "fans" admit that is a long shot???

As I said....let's talk "reality" here.

PatrickS77 said:

I've said nothing about any competition, because there is no comparison between the two, besides age.

Serena said:

Irrelevant response , Im trying to figure out why you fell off your chair from laughing when nothing in patrick's post is laughing or far from the truth.

expalin?
[Edited 3/15/09 11:21am]

eireboy34 said:

Dude, this is an MJ thread on a Prince forum. Reality has no place here.

Annika said:

PatrickS77 said:

it will be a comeback if he completes every show and sing LIVE but mj fans will be happy if he just moved his lips without any sound coming out and of caurse grabbing his crotch while he remembers the good old sleepovers he use to have.

cream72 said:

Dumb, unfunny comment. It makes no sense in the context you used it in either . Ridiculous. Anyhow, how do you know what MJ fans want? Have you spoken to all of them? Please. Most fans, myself included, do not want to see MJ lip synch. That's been by far the biggest complaints from the fans, so I don't know what you're on about.

cream72 said:

PATHETIC


All you prince fans just need to admit you're jealous and move on

cdcgold said:

Hey, as a Prince and MJ fan I get so sick and tired of this competitive BS that fans perpetuate. And I never thought I would jump on an MJ fan in an MJ thread, but come on.

First off you have to realise where you are, it's PRINCE.ORG not KOP, so show some respect. I find it equally baffling to find MJ haters on here who have nothing better to do than try and stir things up, as I do when I see MJ fans who hate on Prince in here. Seriously.

Now can't we just put it all to rest - it's OLD, it's been done to death and no one is ever going to win. As I have said, time and time again, both artists are brilliant in their own right, and both have influenced generations of artists and each other. To be so blindly limited to one point of view is truly robbing yourself of great music on both sides.

So lets start showing these artists, and each other some respect. I'm fine with people voicing "critically constructive" opinions, but flat out disrespect is a joke. On both sides.

Swa

Swa said:

Excellent post, sadly it'll be ignored by those who seek to inflame and not discuss or enjoy otherwise

Swa said:

Word.

Swa said:

So where are all the fans who are from overseas going to stay in London? A hotel or hostel? I'm having trouble finding reasonable accomodation now.

Jeffiner said:

LOL.... still makes me laugh, great to see you back, and full of positive energy about the up coming MJ concerts...!!!!!

I can certainly imagine making his premiere at the 02, via a satalite and a good bit of tech advances will make it worth while, will convince the obviuosly dumb public that they are getting the real thing...

MJ proved at his press conference, with the 150 odd fans been told to look like 10,000 fans, that he is Pathetic, sorry, to all you idiots that have gave in...

When i listen to Bob Marley, and look at this joke, and the reaction, i think alot of very clueless "oh, I saw MJ..." people

The Mj versus Prince battle is a worn one, but a very noxious one.

there is simply... no comparison

LIVE with it

ps THIS IS IT

Arnotts said:

I am looking at staying at a hotel. Will see what happens in terms of cost though.

actually thinking about it, the current pope would probably sell out the o2 for 40 nights and maybe some days, but the reaction to the super child-lover, is unprecedented...and a shocking revelation of the society we live in.

BTW, I loved his rubber gloves

Randy Phillips profile: Michael Jackson's promoter is making all the right moves

"He's 50 but he's going to dance his @ss off," says the confident, quick-talking Randy Phillips, chief executive of AEG Live and promoter of acts from Britney Spears and Prince.

Last Updated: 10:33PM GMT 13 Mar 2009


This is the man who persuaded Michael Jackson, that elusive, reclusive eccentric, to return as the King of Pop for a tour at AEG's O2 venue, the ex-Millennium Dome. "He's working on a new move. Something like the Moonwalk, but different."

Phillips clearly understands how to whet the appetite of Jackson's scrums of fans. More than 250,000 joined the online queue, with 800 turning up to the O2 itself to get seats for the 50 dates.

Watching him order tea at the Dorchester Hotel, Phillips has the neurotic chatter of a Woody Allen.

"I've gotta have Dorchester blend with honey and skim milk, right? And multigrain sandwiches... salmon, egg and maybe a few chicken," he says.

This precise, organisational mastermind has kicked up a global ticketing storm just four months after a high-pitched "yes" was uttered from Jackson's pinched lips. The pair go back 15 years – they lost touch, but after the promoter joined AEG he made a "hit list" of acts to entice. Jackson was at the top.

"We finally made Mohammed come to the mountain of the O2," Phillips grins. Jackson refused twice, but several months ago, the idea arose as the superstar was putting together a restructuring plan for his finances. Not hat we should believe rumours that Jackson is struggling, after spending a fortune on security and lawyers after his famous child abuse trial – which ended with his acquittal.

"They make out Michael's finances are much more dire than they are," Phillips assures me. But he needed the cash, right? "I asked him straight off: why say yes to the tour now? Was it the money? He said: you know what, my kids are old enough now." Jackson agreed to do 10 dates for AEG, before relenting to 40 more. The star "worships" London, but plans to stay in a country house where his children can play. If any Daily Telegraph readers have a plush rural pad for rent, Phillips wants to know.

He estimates Jackson will make $50m-$100m from the London dates. This could rise to $500m if he does a world tour.

So how much is AEG getting out of this? Phillips laughs. "We're not in this for the money. We're taking a huge risk on Michael. Forgetting tickets, the local economy will get $500m."

Things haven't gone entirely seamlessly for AEG since they put their money behind Jackson. Most tickets are being sold straight to fans for £50-£75. But AEG claims its premium ticket partner, Viagogo offered seats for re-sale in bulk, allowing touts and other re-sellers to push up prices. A court has now ordered Viagogo to stop selling to anyone not believed to be an individual fan, until a further hearing.

Another potential hitch is that they do not yet have insurance covering Jackson's appearance at all 50 gigs – but Phillips insists any risk will be worth it.

"If Mike gets too nervous to go on, I'll throw him over my shoulder and carry him on stage. He's light enough."

In recent days, there has been furious speculation about Jackson's health, which Phillips dismisses. "Making up rumours about Michael Jackson is a cottage industry," he exclaims. "We were having dinner when I got a Google alert that he had a flesh-eating disease. He was sitting opposite, healthy as ever."

Among the other urban myths he demolishes: Jackson is not as weird as I may think, but a devoted parent, and though famed for Jesus-like shows, "not a confident person".

Jackson's nerves aside, the deal could have been off if Phil Anschutz, the billionaire behind AEG had not taken to him.

"Phil had to give me permission to spend all this money. I joke that I'm going to make him a millionaire – from a billionaire." Anschutz has been described as prickly, but Phillips says he is "respectful, a good listener and brilliant".

Anschutz built up his empire from property and launched AEG to take on the force of Live Nation: its corporate nemesis.

"We are under assault by an 800lb gorilla called Live Nation, planning to merge with Ticketmaster. It's not good, but we are there doing better."

AEG is certainly putting its all into making the tour superlative. Hiring Kenny Ortega, the man behind High School Musical, booking superstar guest appearances, putting money into a new 3D film of Thriller and developing new technology to make it a historical spectacle.

"Now we have the biggest artist in the world at the best arena in the best city," Phillips declares, digesting the news that 750,000 tickets have sold out in five hours. He has the satisfied look of a man who has just pulled off an inconceivably ambitious plan.

CV

Background

My father was born in Bayswater, so I'm an Anglophile. But I'm from the US

First job in music

I promoted events at Stanford University, where I studied law, before deciding to go into business

Next big tour

I would love to get ABBA back together

Career highlights

Managing Rod Stewart for years, working with Jim Kerr, Bon Jovi, Prince, Britney, Justin, Take That, Lionel Ritchie, Guns'n'Roses



http://www.telegraph.co.u...moves.html

bboy87 said:

Thanks for posting this full article.

Swa

Swa said:

Tell that to the Prince-only fans... nobody is disrespecting Prince

cdcgold said:

"ALL YOU PRINCE FANS"

?????

Now take a deep breath and look at the top of the web page, read slowly what it says....
Prince.org, yes, thats right prince.org. Not "www.Michael Jackson, King of Pop, This is it, This is really really IT.Com"






[Edited 3/16/09 2:04am]

Swa said:

I believe Billie Jean on the Dangerous tour was all live - he seemed so out of breath singing it.

leecaldon said:

Rorywan said:

Ok, let me put it another way, he was DEFINITELY singing Billie Jean live on the Dangerous tour. And definitely not on the HIStory tour.

PatrickS77 said:

Hey Patrick,

My post was in response to the barrage of posts back and forth and prompted by the "All you prince fans just need to admit you're jealous and move on".

I just found the statement weird, considering where we all are.

As I have said numerous times, I am a Prince and MJ fan, and just find the whole faux competition threads and inflammatory remarks on both sides futile and attention seeking, and do nothing to actually progress a worthy and positive discussion.

Swa

Billie Jean - Bad Tour

http://www.youtube.com/wa...aq6kFCTQ34

Billie Jean - Dangerous Tour

http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related

Billie Jean - HiStory Tour

http://www.youtube.com/wa...cdo2br_5OQ


(sorry i don't know how to embed)
[Edited 3/16/09 4:54am]