just spent a fortune on last night tickets so i am praying he does do all the shows or at least does the last one

b3xy said:

Hope you enjoy it B3xy, come back and give us an honest review!

Jeffiner said:

i will be able to give you a review before that no way would i be able to wait till the last night to see him perform, my first show is in 115 days

Arnotts said:

I'm as entitled to post my thoughts / opinions on this thread just as much as you are sunshine. Becoming personal about you being glad that I'm not going makes you sound rather rude, did you read my post above? I can talk about what I like. Oh, and I DID understand the 'we' bit, thanks!
[Edited 3/14/09 15:34pm]

he mentioned that michael still has control over neverland, but that its in joint ownership with some other company that was set up. its name has changed back to sycamore valley ranch and that michael and the guy who owns the company plan to develop the land, and possibly sell it on.

he said that even though jackson has a cash flow problem, he is asset rich. said he doesnt want to liquidate his assets. said while obviously part of doing the concerts is to help his cash flow problem, its also because his children are old enough to appreciate him in concert and he's young enough still to be able to perform. if it was just about the money, he could liquidate some of his assets and still have plenty to live off for the rest of his life.

he also talked about the deal with viagogo and how they were not supposed to charge the ridiculous amounts they are and its just a platform for fans to exchange tickets. said their lawyers are going into court to seek an injunction. said the The Times (UK newspaper) report that AEG had done a "secret" deal is completely untrue, and the AEG logo is on the viagogo ads etc.

also explained how michael had a 5 hour medical.

he said that there was so much demand that michael could have done a 2 year residency and "turned the O2 arena into a club" if he wanted to.

talked about how michael is coming up with a few new dance moves, he's very engaged with the whole process, has got kenny ortega in to help, working with other producers and that they are going to try and have as many different opening acts as possible. sounds like its going to be a big production.

sat in my university library and the guy in front of me is on the phone talking about selling his Michael Jackson tickets

i swear loads of people have just bought them hoping to make a profit

i wish they would start putting people photos on the tickets like they do for Glastonbury it would solve the problem of ticket touts and if someone needed to sell there ticket they could return it to the ticket office and get refunded for the face value. Surely for such massive companies like Ticketmaster and the O2 this wouldnt be that hard.

The head of AEG did an interview and here's a synopsis

bboy87 said:

Thanks for that bboy7! Do you know if the whole interview is available anywhere?

The tickets on viagogo are actually going up rather than down like I thought they would be. Does anyone think A2 row C is worth 2400? Or does anyone think the prices will eventually drop? If they're not already sold by then, I bet there are rich people out there willing to buy these

The tickets on viagogo are actually going up rather than down like I thought they would be. Does anyone think A2 row C is worth 2400? Or does anyone think the prices will eventually drop? If they're not already sold by then, I bet there are rich people out there willing to buy these

Arnotts said:

I would bet money (but not 2400, lol) that the tickets will drop in the next month or two, then you'll see a spike as we approach opening night. Then depending on how "sold out" the first shows us, those who have multiple tickets will start panicking and drop their prices.

I think you can get some great bargains (relatively speaking) for seats in the 2010 set of concerts. The thing to check is go through all the tickets available for the shows you are interested in. You'll see some fools selling 4th teir for like 1500 each and people selling floor tickets for 500.

Swa

MJ has never been a particularly good live concert singer, dancer yes, singer no.

Jeffiner said:

And thats exactly why "we're" (the fans) are glad you're not going. You're not a fan. Whats the point in going (or even talking about it) if you couldn't care less?

Arnotts said:

But Jeffiner has a point Arnotts.

I'm a fan and was gutted that i couldn't secure tickets at first, couple of days later i'm not too fussed at all. The HIStory tour show i attended in Sheffield was poor precisely because of the lip-synching.
compared to the Bad tour, and even Dangerous too, he simply wasn't there.

It'll be interesting to see what MJ turns up for these O2 shows. I really hope he brings his A-Game, or at least the best he can do at 50. Minimal or no lip-synching would be great, but probably unrealistic.

it's clear that he can't do a high-tempo concert at his age, I wouldn't expect most people of his age to be able to (yes, Prince is an exception that I acknowledge! )

Gibson9000 said:

And yet Prince doesn't dance for two hours... he's lucky in that sense that he get away with playing guitar for most of the show! His shows are less physical than Michael's! So obviously Prince is in a better position to continue his shows until he's 70!

Also a realist here so I am unsure which concerts you are talking about. I have seen MJ on 3 tours and have the following comments.

BAD Tour - 100% live

Dangerous Tour - was a mix of live and pre-recorded.
1. "Jam" (mix of live and pre-recorded 10/90)
2. "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" (100%)
3. "Human Nature" (100%)
4. "Smooth Criminal" (20/80)
5. "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" (duet with Siedah Garrett) (100%)
6. "She's out of My Life" (100%)
7. Jackson 5 Medley (100%)
1. "I Want You Back"
2. "The Love You Save"
3. "I'll Be There"
8. "Thriller" (10/90)
9. "Billie Jean" (10/90)
10. "Workin' Day and Night" (100%)
11. "Beat It" (100%)
12. "Will You Be There" (pre-recorded apart from final speech)
13. "Black or White" (pre-recorded)
16. "Heal the World" (10/90)
17. "Man in the Mirror" (50/50)

HiStory - mix of live and pre-recorded

1. "Scream" (50/50)
2. "They Don't Care About Us" (10/90)
3. "In the Closet" (20/80)
4. "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" (100% live)
5. "Stranger in Moscow" (pre-recorded)
6. "Smooth Criminal" (10/90)
7. "You Are Not Alone" (pre-recorded)
8. "The Way You Make Me Feel" (10/90)
9. Jackson 5 Medley - "I Want You Back" / "The Love You Save" / "I'll Be There" (100% live)
10. Off the Wall Medley - "Rock with You" / "Off the Wall" / "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough" (pre-recorded)
11. "Billie Jean" (20/80)
12. "Thriller" (pre-recorded)
13. "Beat It" (100%)
14. "Come Together" (pre-recorded)
15. "D.S." (pre-recorded)
16. "Dangerous" (pre-recorded)
17. "Black or White" (pre-recorded)
18. "Earth Song" (pre-recorded)
19. "Heal the World" (10/90)
20. "HIStory" (20/80)


There is no denying the latter tours relied increasingly more on pre-recorded vocals which is a shame. But to say he just sang one slow song live is incorrect. going to these shows my eyes are wide open that a lot of it will be pre-recorded vocals but who knows.

Rorywan said:

Sure, never

PatrickS77 said:

u been to a prince concert? the mans faster than lightning! aswell as being a song and dance man, he plays the shit out of multiple instruments and with the portable ones, he dances whilst playing them! hes nuts and is the exception....and not to mention an aftershow after most shows where he repeats it all the same night....im tired thinking about it!

Shango said:

Of course he was great when he was younger, jesus who said he wasn't an amazing performer years ago. You know the point I was making.

WetDream said:

Yes... I've been... and they are great... but faster than lightning?? I don't think so! And playing an instrument or dancing are just 2 different type of things... sorry!

PatrickS77 said:

then u must not have been or failed to read what i put.

yes, they are two different things and prince does them both. the hardest worker on stage and off, period. the exception.

poor comeback.

Jeffiner said:

So why'd you ask? When did I ever say you werent entitled to give your opinion? It's the lamest comeback people give. Especially with sunshine added on at the end. And how can it be personal? I don't even know you. I'm just glad that people who don't want to go arent going.

Gibson9000 said:

And yet Prince doesn't dance for two hours... he's lucky in that sense that he get away with playing guitar for most of the show! His shows are less physical than Michael's! So obviously Prince is in a better position to continue his shows until he's 70!