I love this live performance from the Janet tour. I wish the last show was setup this good.

Janet needs to give Tina Landon and Shawnette Heard a call. I enjoyed her routines much better that now with Gil as her choreographer.

daPrettyman said:

That´s really cool!

dag said:

You know, she really should examine her career in the past and look beyond the "hits". She should hire people that know how to showcase JANET and not feature so many dancers. After I looked at this performance again, I realized that during this performance, my attention was always focused on JANET and not on the other dancers in the show.

See what I mean...

daPrettyman said:

Her pre-recorded vocals sound so good
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trueiopian said:

She always pre-records the vocals for certain songs. "If" is one of those. It doesn't bother me as long as she doesn't use the same vocals that were used on the album/single versions. I wish others like Britney would take heed to this.

daPrettyman said:

Yea, I know. Her live vocals at the Rock With U tour were great as well.

BTW- I love this performance.

trueiopian said:

Yeah, the Velvet Rope tour was great also. I have enjoyed all of her tours except the last one. I did miss out on the RN tour, though.

daPrettyman said:

You've been to all of Janet's tours?

trueiopian said:

With the exception of the RN tour, I have seen each of her tours. I LOVE Janet. I was just so disappointed that this last tour was so poorly done.

Besides, she hasn't done that many tours:
Rhythm Nation
Janet
Velvet Rope
All For You
Rock Wit' U
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daPrettyman said:

That's so cool!
I hope I get the chance to see her live
Which tour would you say is her best? And what is it you didn't like about her last tour?

Janet needs to give Tina Landon and Shawnette Heard a call. I enjoyed her routines much better that now with Gil as her choreographer.

trueiopian said:

To me, I really enjoyed the Janet and All For You tours. They were excellent. If I had to pick a favorite, it would be All For You. Mostly because of the staging. I also liked the Janet tour for the same reason. Velvet rope was great also, but it seemed like part two of the Janet tour. You can get the VR and AFY tours on DVD. I highly recommend them.

As for this last tour, it was too "gay" in so many ways. The staging was horrible, the arrangements of the songs were bad and there was very little live singing.

trueiopian said:

To me, I really enjoyed the Janet and All For You tours. They were excellent. If I had to pick a favorite, it would be All For You. Mostly because of the staging. I also liked the Janet tour for the same reason. Velvet rope was great also, but it seemed like part two of the Janet tour. You can get the VR and AFY tours on DVD. I highly recommend them.

As for this last tour, it was too "gay" in so many ways. The staging was horrible, the arrangements of the songs were bad and there was very little live singing.

daPrettyman said:

Please take the stereotyping elsewhere. Thanks.

VoicesCarry said:

I wasn't stereotyping....but using it as an adjective. Sorry if I offended you.

daPrettyman said:

Gay means homosexual and/or happy, nothing more. If you're saying a show is too "gay", it doesn't mean anything. You may as well say Richard Pryor shows are too "black" if they aren't to your liking. That isn't acceptable and again, means nothing.
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VoicesCarry said:

We have had this discussion here before. As a matter of fact it was describing Janet's show. It was definitely a fact that the show catered to the gay audience. There were lots of elements incorporated into the show. Besides, I don't think there was a straight person on the stage (other than Janet...and she is questionable at times).

BTW, I know people that say Richard Pryor, Kat Williams, Earthquake, etc. are "too black", just like I know people that say "Seinfeld", "Friends", and "Dawson's Creek" are too white. Hell, I know people that say Gary Owen is too black...and he's white. So, its all an opinion...nothing else. I didn't mean for it to come across as insulting. I have many close friends that are gay and several family members. I love gay people. Like Prince said, "I study the bible with my gay friends".
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daPrettyman said:

the show Rock Wit U Tour was far from being Too Gay. aside from some Man on Man action during discipline there wasn't anything that stuck as Janet playing to her gay fanbase anymore than she has in the past. For one the costumes would have been better.

ehuffnsd said:

Well, from my understanding, Gil and Janet supervised the costumes. That would mean that Gil doesn't have good taste. There is another stereotype...all gay people are creative and have style.

As for Janet not playing for her gay fanbase, that's not necessarilly true. The entire Discipline and Rock Wit U tour, it was marketed to the gay audiences more than it was to the mainstream. Here in Dallas (and in most of the markets), they ran ads in magazines that catered to gay audiences and ran commercials during programming that had a large gay audience. In Dallas, they even had HUGE billboards in the Oaklawn area (where a large gay population lives). They also did the same in Houston.
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daPrettyman said:

Island/Def Jam was just trying to repair the damage done by her troll who tried to market her as an urban artist and not a minor gay icon.

however the tour wasn't anything that i would call pandering to the gay fan base. like i said before you want to see a show that is too gay it's Cher and Kylie Minogue

trueiopian said:

To me, I really enjoyed the Janet and All For You tours. They were excellent. If I had to pick a favorite, it would be All For You. Mostly because of the staging. I also liked the Janet tour for the same reason. Velvet rope was great also, but it seemed like part two of the Janet tour. You can get the VR and AFY tours on DVD. I highly recommend them.

As for this last tour, it was too "gay" in so many ways. The staging was horrible, the arrangements of the songs were bad and there was very little live singing.