"It's not a sound byte, this is a real situation. You have to have compassion for others. Just imagine it being your sister or mom and then think about how we should talk about that."

This coming from a man who has no problem denigrating women in videos, referring to them as bitches and hoes and perpetuating other negative stereotypes.

Am I the only one that wants Jay-Z to shut the fuck up?

well that's just it- how many of his lyrics do you think he'd use in a "real" situation? I think that the "rap" act is just that- it's used for making money

Evvy said:

I think he'd use them for real. And even if it is an act, it's disgusting. Some of his fans very well use those words against women in real life.

Nah you ain't the only one.

And it is funny,,,coming from an "alleged" women beater as well

Harlepolis said:

Yeah was that video proven?

you guys are pitiful

dilwithers said:

Vendetta1 said:

He better look out ...there's alot of glass in this house...and those stones are heavy...

pfft.

I didn't listen to Joe Camel when he tried to get me to smoke cigarettes and I'm not listening to him now.

Evvy said:

Rappers are complete actors. Believing what they say on a record is like watching the Godfather, Goodfellas, and the Sopranos and believing all Italians are in the mob. They're a bunch of characters/caricatures.

BlaqueKnight said:

SCNDLS said:

Timmy84 said:

I don't get why people get so bent outta shape about rap lyrics when it's clearly obvious that most of that posturing and nonsense is them being a character. I don't see people giving Francis Ford Coppola or Martin Scorcese the same static. But they're labeled as "geniuses" yet the same isn't said about rappers. Women aren't portrayed too well in MOST of their movies.
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SCNDLS said:

Exactly i compare RAP to big time wrestling, totally fake, at least a very good portion of it. You have your pioneers who werent acting, your Qtip,and Krs and others, but then it got big time, and it was an exhibition, like a Hulk Hogan against Roddy Piper or whoever. I mean almost every single rapper has a FAKE NAME!! I mean seriously people, you can put stock in some of the genre and its creative work, but the majority are fake.

As for women they arent portrayed too well in most forums and movies, shit PURPLE RAIN was a fucking degregation to women and yet do we call it out? Rick James and James Brown degraded women and we dont call them out, so to me the whole thing STINKS of double standard and always has and always will.
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lastdecember said:

Great comparison. I still see the artistry in a few current artists but even they are putting up a front with the "swagga" 99% of the time.

SCNDLS said:

Basically. They're all one in the same in my honest opinion.

lastdecember said:

Shit, ain't nobody objectified women more than Prince IMO, but that's still my nucca for life. I know enough to know that's not how he REALLY feels. . . maybe.

SCNDLS said:

And look at the majority of the videos, its all show, its all rented, from the bling to the babes to the cars to the homes

I know we all can change but Mr. JayZ better remember how he
treats his female fans....






I guess he forgot.

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lastdecember said:

Hey! don't go insulting wrestling!!!

RosesRred said:

WTH?

RosesRred said:

Yeah, that was a punk ass move. I was mostly talking about his lyrics tho.

Vendetta1 said:

But Jay-Z's mother & sisters are not bitches OR hoes. They're ladies.

BlaqueKnight said:

Exactly.

TonyVanDam said:

He actually has a song that explains the difference between the two.

yeah cause they were fuck buddies....

Rihanna is Jay's #1 jump off. Im pretty sure he had much more to say...

I have zero problem believing jigga calls women bitches and hoes in real life. One only has to look at his video hoes to know how much he respects women.

I've never seen godfather, goodfellas or any of those movies. If they treat women bad in them, fuck them,too.

Vendetta1 said:

Play Acting? That's a contradiction in terms....

Funny, when Don Imus referred to Black women on Rutgers University basketball team as ""nappy-headed hos" many in the black community were outraged. Anybody remember what Mr. Imus's said, "What's the big deal, black men... black people call themselves each other these names all the time! Yep, maybe Mr. Imus should've explained he was only "play acting". I was surprised by our outrage; I've heard use call each other much worse in court, in public places, and on TV. I'm not surprised by the hypocrisy of those who would justify your spot on observation, Jay-z is a hypocrite.

If you can't understand the power of words and how (in our very recent history in our country, US) ethnic, racial, religious,and sexual slurs are used to debase, humiliate and justify physically violence upon others.... forget it.
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