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Printableangel345 said: Vendetta1 said: I agree. It gives people balls they wouldn't have face to face.
Whether its the internet, magazine, or live tv, in your face or behind your back, people are going to voice their opinions or even facts for that matter. You can't stop that. These celebrities know that's the price of fame. Allow me to say this: [i]if she's as scandalous as some people say[/i], and I'm just saying if,then she's reaping what she's sowned and that's called karma as well. Like someone said here, this should help her see things in a better eye. [Edited 2/14/09 9:16am] Good Lord. 
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angel345 said: Vendetta1 said: I agree. It gives people balls they wouldn't have face to face.
Whether its the internet, magazine, or live tv, in your face or behind your back, people are going to voice their opinions or even facts for that matter. You can't stop that. These celebrities know that's the price of fame. Allow me to say this: if she's as scandalous as some people say, and I'm just saying if,then she's reaping what she's sowned and that's called karma as well. Like someone said here, this should help her see things in a better eye. [Edited 2/14/09 9:16am] 
Do what you guys want to but sitting back talking shit on a website about a person you don't know opens you to the same karma. I try not to do anything to anyone I don't want done to me. | |
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scriptgirl said: Read upthread or a page back. I posted why peeps don't fancy her
Wow, when you're not in the gossip loop (like I'm not), it just looks like folks are piling on a famous man's wife. Kind of like the parent seeing only the second child's punch. People still come off like they're being cruel, regardless. | |
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ThreadBare said: scriptgirl said: Read upthread or a page back. I posted why peeps don't fancy her
Wow, when you're not in the gossip loop (like I'm not), it just looks like folks are piling on a famous man's wife. Kind of like the parent seeing only the second child's punch. People still come off like they're being cruel, regardless. | |
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Vendetta1 said: angel345 said: Whether its the internet, magazine, or live tv, in your face or behind your back, people are going to voice their opinions or even facts for that matter. You can't stop that. These celebrities know that's the price of fame. Allow me to say this: if she's as scandalous as some people say, and I'm just saying if,then she's reaping what she's sowned and that's called karma as well. Like someone said here, this should help her see things in a better eye. [Edited 2/14/09 9:16am]
Do what you guys want to but sitting back talking shit on a website about a person you don't know opens you to the same karma. I try not to do anything to anyone I don't want done to me. I cannot speak for others, but I took an objectionable view of her, and that includes how hollywood view dark-skinned, African-American women. If he married someone that looks like Alicia Keyes, there would probably be little or no criticism. I see no karma in that because I didn't dog out her looks, just stating what's before our eyes. I also took an objectionable view to say that if she's scandalous, and I don't know if she is, then here comes karma. That's life. Another thing is she's got nothing on MJ because he's been taken this kind of abuse, since his career started. [Edited 2/14/09 17:51pm] | |
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angel345 said: Vendetta1 said: Who said I want to stop it?
Do what you guys want to but sitting back talking shit on a website about a person you don't know opens you to the same karma. I try not to do anything to anyone I don't want done to me. I cannot speak for others, but I took an objectionable view of her, and that includes how hollywood view dark-skinned, African-American women. If he married someone that looks like Alicia Keyes, there would probably be little or no criticism. I see no karma in that because I didn't dog out her looks, just stating what's before our eyes. I also took an objectionable view to say that if she's scandalous, and I don't know if she is, then here comes karma. That's life. Another thing is she's got nothing on MJ because he's been taken this kind of abuse, since his career started. [Edited 2/14/09 17:51pm] Then again: gossip ain't my thing. | |
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Vendetta1 said: angel345 said: I cannot speak for others, but I took an objectionable view of her, and that includes how hollywood view dark-skinned, African-American women. If he married someone that looks like Alicia Keyes, there would probably be little or no criticism. I see no karma in that because I didn't dog out her looks, just stating what's before our eyes. I also took an objectionable view to say that if she's scandalous, and I don't know if she is, then here comes karma. That's life. Another thing is she's got nothing on MJ because he's been taken this kind of abuse, since his career started. [Edited 2/14/09 17:51pm] Then again: gossip ain't my thing. I can see where you're coming from, though I've tried to be objectionable. We all fall short. | |
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JackieBlue said: Cinnie said: It doesn't matter where in the world you get your surgery done, your body's reaction to anesthesia is a risk if you haven't had it before and there is no history to know how the body will react.
Yep, that's a fact that I don't think gets stressed enough. I think some expect a chance of complication due to the actual surgery but some people never get that far. You should interview the anesthesiologist just like you would interview a surgeon. As for Tameka, never understood why she was being so harshly criticized aside from jealous and selfish Usher fans who perhaps thought he should have married them. I remember when he made a personal plea to stop the bashing. Just shows people have an extremely narrow view of attractiveness. Ain't that the truth. Some people take for granted some how their doctor/surgeon "kinda" covers everything .... no they don't. My late father bought this to my attention once: Has anyone noticed, people always commenting on who's attractive or unattractive aren't much to look at themselves? Why is this? Attractive people I find, aren't the one passing judgement.  Anyway, ya better have a bit more going if you wanna sustain a marriage, you can live on looks or live in the bed.[Edited 2/15/09 4:11am] | |
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angel345 said: Vendetta1 said: The thing is, no one on here knows this person or knows she scandalous or any of that. And if she were, still saying someone has something coming to them is still a fucked up thing to say. None of us are perfect so I don't get the scrutiny that some people subject her and other people in the public eye to,
Then again: gossip ain't my thing. I can see where you're coming from, though I've tried to be objectionable. We all fall short. I didn't finish reading this thread last night, but I took a look at it this morning. While I think I understand you mean to say, one tiny thing is driving me nuts here. Aside from the fact that I agree 100% with everything Vendetta has written, I disagree that your post was impartial. Now for the tick that's really bothering me: do you even know what the adjective "objectionable" means? Let me help you: objectionable (adjective)- 1. causing or tending to cause disapproval, protest or objection 2. offending propriety, good taste, manners, ettiquette 3. offensive I think the adjective you intended to use to describe your posts is "OBJECTIVE" see below... objective (adjective)- 1. based on observable phenomena; presented factually 2. emphasizing or expressing things as perceived without distortion, insertion or fictional matter, or interpretation 3. relating to phenomenon or a matter in the realm of sensible experience independent of independent thought 4. undistorted by emotion or personal bias I think "objective" was what you were reaching for, no?
That being said, if in fact, you mean to say that you were being objective,then I would have to disagree. There's nothinhg objective about stating that a person gets what they deserve, be it via karma or otherwise. That indicates personal bias. Even worse, it indicates personal bias based on gossip and innuendo  . Don't get me wrong, this is a fun watercooler type forum where we talk smack about and be silly towards celebs all day, but I find it unsettling when we take our tendency here to play judge and juror to the saying what a person deserves as punishment for perceived wrongdoings.
Unless it's a person whose actions directly affect the quality of my life or go contrary to my personal code of ethics (like say, a political figure)I tend to reserve judgment for those whom I am 1 Degree of Separation from or less, but I guess that's just me. 
Anyhoo, carry on...  [Edited 2/14/09 23:32pm] | |
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High fives Ms. Ottensen.  | |
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I stand corrected on my adjectives, but I am not going to waste my time on this debate. The party is over. With that being said, have a nice day. You too, Vendetta1  [Edited 2/15/09 9:01am] | |
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Ottensen said: Now for the tick that's really bothering me: do you even know what the adjective "objectionable" means? Let me help you: objectionable (adjective)- 1. causing or tending to cause disapproval, protest or objection 2. offending propriety, good taste, manners, ettiquette 3. offensive I think the adjective you intended to use to describe your posts is "OBJECTIVE" see below... objective (adjective)- 1. based on observable phenomena; presented factually 2. emphasizing or expressing things as perceived without distortion, insertion or fictional matter, or interpretation 3. relating to phenomenon or a matter in the realm of sensible experience independent of independent thought 4. undistorted by emotion or personal bias I think "objective" was what you were reaching for, no?
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angel345 said: I stand corrected on my adjectives, but I am not going to waste my time on this debate. The party is over. With that being said, have a nice day. You too, Vendetta1
[Edited 2/15/09 9:01am] One little note: You've just contradict yourself. objective (adjective)- 1. based on observable phenomena; presented factually What did I say about hollywood? Even a blind man can see that. Well, so long. [Edited 2/15/09 11:41am] | |
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SCNDLS said: Graycap23 said: I know I would never choose voluntary surgery of any kind. I've accepted my ugliness..... Nucca puhlease!lol..... | |
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Update on her condition from the New York Daily News. This is what happens when you lie, kids:
Usher's wife is still being treated in a Brazilian hospital 10 days after suffering complications from plastic surgery. The R&B singer has repeatedly been photographed this week visiting his spouse of a little more than a year Tameka Foster Raymond at the prestigious Hospital Sirio Libanes, where she is recooperating after suffering a heart attack during a liposuction procedure. Despite Raymond's lengthy stay, reps for the hospital and the "Love in this Club" singer are keeping mum on her current condition. "The patient's family has requested complete privacy on the case and we cannot comment on her current health situation," a rep for the hospital tells the Daily News, adding, "like any patient she will be released eventually." Usher's publicist and mother refused to comment. Raymond's complications could be related to the fact that she gave birth to her second son Naviyd Ely only two months ago - not four months ago as she reportedly told her surgeon. Her older son Usher Raymond V is a year old. According to José Tariki, president of the Brazilian Society of Plastic Surgery, a patient should only undergo liposuction six to eight months after giving birth. "After a pregnancy,the abdomen muscle is violently stretched,becomes flacid and swells," he says. "The patient needs six to eight months to return to normal and only then can undergo surgery." Brazil's most popular news-variety program "The Fantastics" reported Sunday that Raymond had told her Brazilian surgeon Silvio Sterman that her youngest son was born four months ago. According to the show, Raymond is still recovering from her surgery and is taking antibiotics to fight a lung infection,which is common in these cases. Sterman's Web site boasts of many foreign patients including a friend of Raymond, who recommended the surgeon. Usher canceled a scheduled performance at record mogul Clive Davis' pre-Grammy bash on Nov. 7 to fly to his wife's side. According to "Access Hollywood," a neurosurgeon was also flown to Brazil to tend to Raymond. The singer's rep released a statement soon after, which said Raymond was "suffering complications from a routine surgery," adding, "no further details will be released, and the family requests privacy at this difficult time." [Edited 2/17/09 10:31am] "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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 How come this article says she had surgery whereas the earlier one says she had just received anesthesia. Yeah, it's some holes in this story.  | |
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It's 'Meka? When has anything surrounding her been legit? "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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scriptgirl said: It's 'Meka? When has anything surrounding her been legit?
I'm not even blaming her I'm blaming these "sources" that shouldn't be talking if they are part of her medical team. | |
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It's most likely the same sources that talk to the media here at Cedars Sinai in LA "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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scriptgirl said: It's 'Meka? When has anything surrounding her been legit? Do you know her? I'm curious as to how you seem to be gleeful at this stuff. | |
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Not gleeful, I am just regurgitating what has been said about her round the net "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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scriptgirl said: Not gleeful, I am just regurgitating what has been said about her round the net it's pretty horrible to think someone had something coming to them because of unsubstantiated "facts" on the internet. | |
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It is fact that Usher's mom took a restraining order out against Tameka "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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scriptgirl said: Update on her condition from the New York Daily News. This is what happens when you lie, kids:
Usher's wife is still being treated in a Brazilian hospital 10 days after suffering complications from plastic surgery. The R&B singer has repeatedly been photographed this week visiting his spouse of a little more than a year Tameka Foster Raymond at the prestigious Hospital Sirio Libanes, where she is recooperating after suffering a heart attack during a liposuction procedure. Despite Raymond's lengthy stay, reps for the hospital and the "Love in this Club" singer are keeping mum on her current condition. "The patient's family has requested complete privacy on the case and we cannot comment on her current health situation," a rep for the hospital tells the Daily News, adding, "like any patient she will be released eventually." Usher's publicist and mother refused to comment. Raymond's complications could be related to the fact that she gave birth to her second son Naviyd Ely only two months ago - not four months ago as she reportedly told her surgeon. Her older son Usher Raymond V is a year old. According to José Tariki, president of the Brazilian Society of Plastic Surgery, a patient should only undergo liposuction six to eight months after giving birth. "After a pregnancy,the abdomen muscle is violently stretched,becomes flacid and swells," he says. "The patient needs six to eight months to return to normal and only then can undergo surgery." Brazil's most popular news-variety program "The Fantastics" reported Sunday that Raymond had told her Brazilian surgeon Silvio Sterman that her youngest son was born four months ago. According to the show, Raymond is still recovering from her surgery and is taking antibiotics to fight a lung infection,which is common in these cases. Sterman's Web site boasts of many foreign patients including a friend of Raymond, who recommended the surgeon. Usher canceled a scheduled performance at record mogul Clive Davis' pre-Grammy bash on Nov. 7 to fly to his wife's side. According to "Access Hollywood," a neurosurgeon was also flown to Brazil to tend to Raymond. The singer's rep released a statement soon after, which said Raymond was "suffering complications from a routine surgery," adding, "no further details will be released, and the family requests privacy at this difficult time." This is a damn shame  Just another example of celebrities not using common sense and risking their lives in the process. | |
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So are they both still in Brazil? I know Usher must be missing his Ocean 5 time JD and 'em. Gotta sit by his wife's side instead of going to the strip club. Oh well. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Wait-usher is always at the strip club these days? "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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scriptgirl said: Wait-usher is always at the strip club these days?
I don't know. I was being shady. He and JD and the crew like to go to parties and JD loves the strip club so I'm betting the other guys don't mind going either. I don't know if Usher's actually there but he hangs hard with them. JD's always video blogging about their ventures.[Edited 2/18/09 8:32am] Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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