lastdecember said: The interesting thing is this is the most "bogus" award of all. The grammys have actually changed over the years. One of the bogus things was back in 1986, disqualified, was Whitney Houston, reason, she had a duet with Teddy Pendergrass called "Hold Me" on his album the year earlier, which at the time was a violation of the rules. HOWEVER the year before , Cyndi Lauper won Best New Artist, despite having been signed already with her group "Blue Angel" and though Blue Angel were not charting, this at the time was a CLEAR violation of the rule. Another year this BOGUS bullshit was pulled was in 1987. Richard Marx was disqualified for a song that he did on the "Nothing In Common" soundtrack a year earlier, also disqualified were Expose for the reason that the album "exposure" was recorded with other members a year prior and then re-worked with the famous lineup that had the success, so they were cut, HOWEVER, Jody Watley won, and yet was featured as a member of Shalamar. And though this rule has now been changed, back then you could NOT be a member of a group and then go solo and be nominated, hence, Paul McCartney not being nominated or Ringo Starr etc...
not to mention that they actually label it "best" rather than "album of the year," "song of the year," etc [Edited 2/9/09 15:43pm] My Legacy
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Wowugotit said: Most years it's spot on; the artist goes on to have futher success. Some years it is not so spot on.
Paula Cole Arrested Development Mark Cohen Milli Vanilli A Taste of Honey Starland Vocal Band Let's hope Adele falls into this category. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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I thought Jill Scott won "Best New Artist". 01. | |
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lastdecember said: The interesting thing is this is the most "bogus" award of all. The grammys have actually changed over the years. One of the bogus things was back in 1986, disqualified, was Whitney Houston, reason, she had a duet with Teddy Pendergrass called "Hold Me" on his album the year earlier, which at the time was a violation of the rules. HOWEVER the year before , Cyndi Lauper won Best New Artist, despite having been signed already with her group "Blue Angel" and though Blue Angel were not charting, this at the time was a CLEAR violation of the rule. Another year this BOGUS bullshit was pulled was in 1987. Richard Marx was disqualified for a song that he did on the "Nothing In Common" soundtrack a year earlier, also disqualified were Expose for the reason that the album "exposure" was recorded with other members a year prior and then re-worked with the famous lineup that had the success, so they were cut, HOWEVER, Jody Watley won, and yet was featured as a member of Shalamar. And though this rule has now been changed, back then you could NOT be a member of a group and then go solo and be nominated, hence, Paul McCartney not being nominated or Ringo Starr etc...
There always seem to be some discrepencies in this category. I guess we're not suppose to remember. That's why I was surprised at Winehouse getting the nod when it was her second release (unless as I mentioned earlier it was due to it not being a U.S. debut). Do they even have rules for where the debut is released? Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: lastdecember said: The interesting thing is this is the most "bogus" award of all. The grammys have actually changed over the years. One of the bogus things was back in 1986, disqualified, was Whitney Houston, reason, she had a duet with Teddy Pendergrass called "Hold Me" on his album the year earlier, which at the time was a violation of the rules. HOWEVER the year before , Cyndi Lauper won Best New Artist, despite having been signed already with her group "Blue Angel" and though Blue Angel were not charting, this at the time was a CLEAR violation of the rule. Another year this BOGUS bullshit was pulled was in 1987. Richard Marx was disqualified for a song that he did on the "Nothing In Common" soundtrack a year earlier, also disqualified were Expose for the reason that the album "exposure" was recorded with other members a year prior and then re-worked with the famous lineup that had the success, so they were cut, HOWEVER, Jody Watley won, and yet was featured as a member of Shalamar. And though this rule has now been changed, back then you could NOT be a member of a group and then go solo and be nominated, hence, Paul McCartney not being nominated or Ringo Starr etc...
There always seem to be some discrepencies in this category. I guess we're not suppose to remember. That's why I was surprised at Winehouse getting the nod when it was her second release (unless as I mentioned earlier it was due to it not being a U.S. debut). Do they even have rules for where the debut is released? thats another thing they keep altering for the sake of ratings. If you actually have released an album or in some cases multiple albums, if those got no notice, or were indie, etc... you still can be nominated, which is utter bullshit plain and simple. The overseas thing is tricky, simply because we all know that imports are all over the place and now with the net being the way to get music, isnt everything a WIDE release of some sort. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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sextonseven said: NDRU said: yeah I think the best artists are often not the ones who have huge hits on their first albums I don't think Prince's first album is anything noteworthy. It's pleasant enough, but to be singled out for a best new artist award is undeserving to me. Co-sign I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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lastdecember said: JackieBlue said: There always seem to be some discrepencies in this category. I guess we're not suppose to remember. That's why I was surprised at Winehouse getting the nod when it was her second release (unless as I mentioned earlier it was due to it not being a U.S. debut). Do they even have rules for where the debut is released? thats another thing they keep altering for the sake of ratings. If you actually have released an album or in some cases multiple albums, if those got no notice, or were indie, etc... you still can be nominated, which is utter bullshit plain and simple. The overseas thing is tricky, simply because we all know that imports are all over the place and now with the net being the way to get music, isnt everything a WIDE release of some sort. I really think it all comes down to the record companies paying for the awards. I noticed in the past years that only certain record companies dominate on the amount of awards that are won. Coincidence, I think not. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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People often criticize A Taste of Honey winning the award in 1979,but I think they deserved it Two funky females who play guitar,and their debut album showed alot of promise. | |
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SoulAlive said: People often criticize A Taste of Honey winning the award in 1979,but I think they deserved it Two funky females who play guitar,and their debut album showed alot of promise.
I think so many of the winners show promise, but they have a habit of fading away. Christopher Cross had a bunch of huge hits, but just disappeared. So at the time A Taste of Honey probably made sense, but 30 years later, Elvis Costello is a living legend. My Legacy
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NDRU said: SoulAlive said: People often criticize A Taste of Honey winning the award in 1979,but I think they deserved it Two funky females who play guitar,and their debut album showed alot of promise.
I think so many of the winners show promise, but they have a habit of fading away. Christopher Cross had a bunch of huge hits, but just disappeared. So at the time A Taste of Honey probably made sense, but 30 years later, Elvis Costello is a living legend. Same can be said for many of the acts on that list. Natalie Cole is one of the few that comes to mind. She is still recording and winning awards. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Glancing at the list, IMO it looks like the '80s had the most worthy choices, the '70s had the most clear-cut winners (or should've been winners), and there are a few years where I wouldn't have wanted to give it to anyone nominated (2000 and 2004 for starters). There are also only a couple of choices I agreed with each decade. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: Glancing at the list, IMO it looks like the '80s had the most worthy choices, the '70s had the most clear-cut winners (or should've been winners), and there are a few years where I wouldn't have wanted to give it to anyone nominated (2000 and 2004 for starters). There are also only a couple of choices I agreed with each decade.
2001 and 2009 for starters on skipping the award. Led Zeppelin DIDN'T win in 1970?!!!!! Turns out in 1975 they could've given it to Phoebe Snow. 1992 looks hilarious now, both winner and nominees who lost. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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SUPRMAN said: AlexdeParis said: Glancing at the list, IMO it looks like the '80s had the most worthy choices, the '70s had the most clear-cut winners (or should've been winners), and there are a few years where I wouldn't have wanted to give it to anyone nominated (2000 and 2004 for starters). There are also only a couple of choices I agreed with each decade.
2001 and 2009 for starters on skipping the award. Led Zeppelin DIDN'T win in 1970?!!!!! Turns out in 1975 they could've given it to Phoebe Snow. 1992 looks hilarious now, both winner and nominees who lost. I would've given 2001's award to Jill Scott in a heartbeat. Led Zeppelin probably deserved it in 1970, but I wouldn't have had a problem with Chicago winning either. 1992 is certainly interesting. Boyz II Men hadn't had their big breakthrough ("End of the Road") yet. I probably would've gone with Seal. "Crazy" certainly trumps "Walking in Memphis" IMO. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: SUPRMAN said: 2001 and 2009 for starters on skipping the award. Led Zeppelin DIDN'T win in 1970?!!!!! Turns out in 1975 they could've given it to Phoebe Snow. 1992 looks hilarious now, both winner and nominees who lost. I would've given 2001's award to Jill Scott in a heartbeat. Led Zeppelin probably deserved it in 1970, but I wouldn't have had a problem with Chicago winning either. 1992 is certainly interesting. Boyz II Men hadn't had their big breakthrough ("End of the Road") yet. I probably would've gone with Seal. "Crazy" certainly trumps "Walking in Memphis" IMO. Co-sign I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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NDRU said: SoulAlive said: People often criticize A Taste of Honey winning the award in 1979,but I think they deserved it Two funky females who play guitar,and their debut album showed alot of promise.
I think so many of the winners show promise, but they have a habit of fading away. Christopher Cross had a bunch of huge hits, but just disappeared. So at the time A Taste of Honey probably made sense, but 30 years later, Elvis Costello is a living legend. True I guess the Grammy voters can never know who's gonna last,and who's gonna fade away.In 1983,who would have predicted that Madonna would have the type of longevity that she now has? | |
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AlexdeParis said: SUPRMAN said: 2001 and 2009 for starters on skipping the award. Led Zeppelin DIDN'T win in 1970?!!!!! Turns out in 1975 they could've given it to Phoebe Snow. 1992 looks hilarious now, both winner and nominees who lost. I would've given 2001's award to Jill Scott in a heartbeat. Led Zeppelin probably deserved it in 1970, but I wouldn't have had a problem with Chicago winning either. 1992 is certainly interesting. Boyz II Men hadn't had their big breakthrough ("End of the Road") yet. I probably would've gone with Seal. "Crazy" certainly trumps "Walking in Memphis" IMO. In 01, I thought that Jill or Brad Paisley should have won for Best New Artist. However, I then realized that the Best New Artist category is jinxed in a lot of ways. I was then glad that neither of them won the category. The Grammys made up for it later by awarding them Grammys later on. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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2007 Carrie Underwood James Blunt, Chris Brown, Imogen Heap, Corinne Bailey Rae
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Alej said: 2007 Carrie Underwood James Blunt, Chris Brown, Imogen Heap, Corinne Bailey Rae
Corinne should've won I disagree. Carrie was the "best" of that year. She is finer than any of the above mentioned. Corinne doesn't have an ass like Carrie. Carrie also is a better singer than any of the mentioned. Corinne's album was really good, but Carrie was and is a great singer. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: Alej said: 2007 Carrie Underwood James Blunt, Chris Brown, Imogen Heap, Corinne Bailey Rae
Corinne should've won I disagree. Carrie was the "best" of that year. She is finer than any of the above mentioned. Corinne doesn't have an ass like Carrie. Carrie also is a better singer than any of the mentioned. Corinne's album was really good, but Carrie was and is a great singer. | |
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I'm just insulted James Blunt was even nominated. That's just wrong on every level! "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: I'm just insulted James Blunt was even nominated. That's just wrong on every level!
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AlexdeParis said: I'm just insulted James Blunt was even nominated. That's just wrong on every level!
He is "beautiful". ...remember! James did suck for sure. I downloaded both of his albums. His 2nd project was much better, but still OUT THERE!! **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Wowugotit said: 1980 Rickie Lee Jones The Blues Brothers, Dire Straits, The Knack, Robin Williams This comedy-album from Mork was groundbreaking ?! ... | |
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Wowugotit said: 2008 Ledisi 2007 Corinne Bailey Rae 2002 India.Arie 2001 Jill Scott 2000 Macy Gray 1999 Andrea Bocelli 1998 Erykah Badu 1997 Jewel, No Doubt 1996 Brandy 1994 Toni Braxton Digable Planets, SWV 1993 Arrested Development Jon Secada 1992 C+C Music Factory, Seal 1991 Mariah Carey The Black Crowes, Lisa Stansfield 1990 Soul II Soul, Tone Lōc 1989 Take 6, Vanessa L. Williams 1988 Jody Watley 1987 Simply Red 1986 Sade Freddie Jackson 1985 Cyndi Lauper Sheila E. 1983 Jennifer Holliday 1982 Sheena Easton James Ingram, Luther Vandross 1981 Christopher Cross Irene Cara, Robbie Dupree 1980 Rickie Lee Jones 1979 A Taste of Honey Chris Rea, Toto 1978 Stephen Bishop, Andy Gibb 1977 Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band, The Brothers Johnson, Wild Cherry 1976 Natalie Cole Brecker Brothers 1975 Johnny Bristol, Graham Central Station, Phoebe Snow 1974 Eumir Deodato, Barry White 1973 The Eagles 1972 Carly Simon Bill Withers 1971 The Carpenters Elton John, Melba Moore 1970 Chicago dig With exception of The Brothers Johnson, Graham Central Station and Sheila E. , the funk is seriously faked by the grannies No Prince in 1978 ? , no Meshell Ndegeochello in 1994 ?, etc.... [Edited 2/12/09 23:46pm] | |
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