vainandy said:

Looks like they're already here.....

papaaisaway said:

vainandy said:

And then flicking his perfect wig and flouncing off.

vainandy said:

What study did you read or conduct that makes you categorically think that transgendered are flat out sick perverts? Did you also read that report awhile ago that some interpret as suggesting men who have sex with other men are sick and perverted? It's called the Bible!

Your hatred of transgendered people, which stems from:

"I personally would never do it..." {PREJUDICE}

"They are men...and they need to accept it..." {OVER-SIMPLIFICATION}

and

"Then there are those who are normal gay men but dress in drag when they go out strictly because they know these confused perverted bisexual trade will go after them a lot quicker than they will go after a normal gay man. No, drag queens aren't the bottom of the gay barrel, the men who sleep with them are. But of course, society doesn't know about these so-called "straight" men sleeping with them. They think us normal gay men are sleeping with them...as if we're that damn confused and sick enough to want a dick made up in a female package."...{STEREOTYPING/SWEEPING GENERALIZATIONS}

...still smacks of bigotry to me.




I'm sure a sick perverted transgendered would offer the same sentiment to you.


I don't think I can change your mind, but jeezus christ - Put a little love in your heart!

vainandy said:

I don't really think Prince is gay....but I would have a difficult time believing he'd never once at the very least considered it, or experimented a bit. Especially back in the day when Dez and Andre were around. The man knows how to fake head far too well for someone who hadn't at least given it some thought.

midnightmover said:

You'd think so, wouldn't you?

Oh, so you don't care to comment on the part about homophobic assholes trying to place all gay men in the same category as dragons? I can't tell you how many times I've heard..."Where's your wig and dress today". Well dammitt, I have my head on straight and I know what I am. I'm a man, not a woman, that likes other men. I'm not sick, twisted, or perverted, I don't think I'm a woman, and I don't want to change my gender. And just what kind of signals do you think these drag queens send out to straight people, especially those that don't like gay people? It is giving signals to them that we are confused as hell, sick, and don't know what we are.

We have to live in the straight world and we will never get full equal rights as long as the straight world sees us as being so damn confused that we don't even know what gender we are. Gender bending is fine but to actually try to give the illusion of being a woman is trying to turn yourself into something that you aren't. I'm a man, I know I'm a man, and I have no desire to change myself into a woman. And yes those drag queens are an embarassment because the straight world likes to classify all of us like them. It's no different than a black person being pissed off because a damn thug gives white people the illusion that all black people are thugs. But if you want to call that bigoted, well, like Bill Summers and Summers Heat used to say...."you can call it what you want".

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ScarletScandal said:

vainandy said:

YOU DAMN RIGHT. you dont know how many times i have been asked have I ever dressed up in drag? Would I ever do it? etc. etc.

And dont go to gay pride...there are tons of embarassing old men dressed up looking like a mess looking like Amy Winehouse's grandfather DRUNK...making the rest of us want to go back home..thats what is embarassing..and then these tramps half the time have the NERVE to think they look cute!!



Anyway...I think Ne-Yo got a couple o baby daddies around the way and if he came out I would be like..Finally...just like Lance Bass, Tom Cruise and Clay Aiken. They been suspect for YEARS....somebody like Cruise will never come out though because he is a versatile trade and wont let his image tarnished. If MJ wasnt famous he would be the queen of the night. A talented as hell queen too.

vainandy said:

I'm gay but I don't think I have gaydar. I just know what I like and tend to pursue it until I'm told no. But I don't do thugs anyway, there's no appeal in such shallowness . . .

I have never thought Prince was gay, even given all that's been stated.
To me, he dresses the way he does because he wants to and he can.
I don't think it's meant to be a statement on his sexuality.
And how Prince could be sleeping with many and not one has been to a tabloid, has pictures, gifts,letters, songs, etc., makes me skeptical that there are any many other than AC who may have had sex with Prince.
But even if Prince has had sex with me, that changes nothing.
I don't believe any same sex contact makes one gay . . .

vainandy said:

I disagree with your view of transgendered. I don't see them as sick, confused or source of hatred directed in general at the LGBT community. Some people who are born male would prefer to be a woman or feel more woman than man. I notice you don't direct the same anger at lesbians who present as men.

I'm not an effeminate man, and would never expect to be asked about a dress and a wig, even being openly gay. No one pictures me acting in such a manner.
Basically we all aren't classfied as 'them,'

CJanssen said:

Those little muscles are cute, but he's flexing in dance in that picture. When he's relaxed in topless photos, his tone does not even compare to that picture of "fabulous abs" Ne-Yo a few pages ago, LOL. Maybe Prince could have been ripped, I don't know, but he sure never looked like he attempted to be. I guess him not working out with weights, protein shakes, or anything was required for him to fully express his blatant femininity on stage.

MJ and Prince were/are pretty from the shoulders up, while Usher and Ne-Yo are pretty from the shoulders down, so it all balances out I guess.

vainandy said:

This subject reminds me of a film called "Unconditional Love." Everyone just knew this romantic male singer character in the movie was a straight lover of women, just to discover after his death they were all wrong, LOL.

meow85 said:

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Someone would have outed P a long time ago. You cannot go around pissing people off like he does and not have it blow up in your face if you have something to hide. P does not act like he as something to hide.

SUPRMAN said:

Don't take any offense, SUPRMAN but I thought you were a woman... guess I should've known better with your screenname. Sorry. But wow, you have another way of looking at things. I can see where you're coming from with the Ne-Yo thing actually. I see your points.
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Annika said:

his wig is not perfect. it's rathger cheap

WaterInYourBath said:

Uh, Neyo don't look like that no mo'! He ain't seen them abs in YEARS! He's definitely on the rolypoly side nowadays. Oh, and I didn't base my opinion about his status on that picture at all, which I'd never seen until this thread. But rather on other behavior and details I've seen/heard over the years.

laurarichardson said:

People in Hollywood can't hold water and everyone that works for him does not sign the confidetiality agreement. If there were ANY trade skeletons in his closet best believe they woulda risen from the dead after that interview he did.

We know Prince isn't gay, because his ridiculous amount of female conquests have spoken about him numerous times. Even after being burnt. But I guess it depends on your definition of GAY.

If a man's EVER done something with another man does that make them gay? If yes, then, well, Prince is probably gay. So is Bowie. So is Jagger. The list goes on.

If you understand bi-sexuality or experimentation, then no, Prince is very much NOT gay.

And I dunno if Ne-Yo is gay, but I can tell you there's a reason this dude wears that damn skullcap or a fidora:




Hardcore balding. Hardcore.
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He seems gay to me...

bleutuna said:

That head is a more serious issue than wondering if man is gay or not. Dude got a big-ass lemon on his fucking dome!

bleutuna said:

A family friend of mines (he's deceased now) once told me about a SNL appearance Prince did in the early eighties and he once admitted that he was bi-sexual. I cannot confirm it, but maybe some of you can? Just me, but I get sodomite vibes from Ne-Yo.

angel345 said:

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Do you really think if P got on SNL and shouted to the world I am gay no one would have noticed?

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paisleypark4 said:

And shows like Jerry Springer make things even worse, not just for having the type of drag queens on that they have, but for having the type of gay people in general that appear on this show. They act a damn fool and are basically a clown for the audience. But then again, that show is degrading to all minorities.

Women have always been able to get away with wearing men's clothing. Women in general have taken pants and made their own version of them, which is fine. They still carry themselves as women though. I don't have a problem with men doing the same with particular articles of women's clothing such as scarfs or even make-up as long as they still carry themselves as men. Prince is a perfect example of a man that isn't afraid of particular articles of women's clothing but he doesn't put on a damn dress or stuff a bra to give the illusion of having breasts which would be trying to change his sex if he did. He always carries himself like a real bitch that would make someone royally regret coming up in his face talking disrespecful shit.

It's not an equal world even when it comes to crossdressers. A woman that dresses in a manly way is considered stronger than the average straight woman and people are more afraid to get up in their face and disrespect them. However, a man dressed like a woman is considered to be weaker than the average straight man and people don't hesitate to get up in their face and talk shit. Lots of gay men that don't even dress in drag have to put up with disrespectful comments because of this. I've always like strong role models, not weak ones and I'm against anyone that makes straight people see us as weak.

As for lesbians I love them. I do have a problem with these bitches on "Girls Gone Wild" that are doing all this damn kissing and feeling on each other for the purpose of turning a man on. Those bitches give straight men the illusion that all lesbians are beautiful and will sleep with a man also. The lesbians that I really love, are the ones that will not give a man the time of day and will tell a man to go straight to hell. As a said before, I like strong role models, not weak ones so naturally I'm not going to like a wishy washy lipstick lesbian that will sleep with men that want these girls to be bisexuals but those same men would be ready to kill another man if he approached them. If these men think it's OK for these women to do it, then why isn't OK for those men to do it themselves? I don't have time for hypocrits and people like that. Actually, when it comes to lesbians, I prefer being around the hardest, butchest bulldaggers out there.




That's why you've never been accused of it.

Maybe not gay but it definately makes them bisexual. Once you've fooled with another man, you lose the right to call yourself straight and more importantly, you lose the right to be a homophobic asshole because you've participated in the same type of sex that gay men have been. We'll never have equal rights till we bust these type men out of the closet.

bleutuna said:

LAWD want the peanut m&m's now.

TheBoyfromtheBand said:

Wow, that's really gay.

It evokes feelings I used to feel whenever I saw this video below:



Like Prince, and now Ne-Yo, my first thoughts are , "Damn, you queens need to just fuck and get that shit over with--stop torturing yourselves!"

WaterInYourBath said:

I know, I know, I was only kidding. P. isn't even the shadow of Ne-yo but I think those little muscles are adorable, seen his length and what he eats (nothing)