bboy87 said:

I'm done with you!!

Alicia looks like she'll make a SERIOUS swollen jaw & neck cramp outta another female

Harlepolis said:

Oh, Harley. . .

SCNDLS said:

Oh Cynda

seeingvoices12 said:

I personally didn't realise there was a "gay look". Most of the gay men I have known have been pretty masculine and I didn't know they were gay till they told me. It's pretty silly to assume that one is of a certain sexual orientation because of the way they look.

marnifrances said:

You got good points.

this whole topic has gone south

vainandy said:

I don't know whether to kiss you like that boxer did or slap you like Zazz got slapped in "Sexyness" -

eaglebear4839 said:

marnifrances said:

Yep. It's even more hypocritical to assume when U're a doggone Prince fan. LOL. I'm sorry, but Prince has made it difficult for me to just look at a celebrity on TV and be able to judge his/her sexual orientation, especially when the most masculine men and most feminine women can end up being the ones declaring they are gay. But it's funny, since I'm the only one I've known in my life who continues to believe Prince is heterosexual.

Harlepolis said:

I don't appreciate you trying to destroy my dreams

purplecam said:

And here I was thinking it was a low tolerance of ignorance.

vainandy said:

I've met a few men that I would characterize as 100% straight.
But that didn't stop us from being friends. Or showering together.


But mostly I've met a lot of not so straight men. Usually in a relationship.
With a woman.
But the older I got, the more I saw those men as weaker. They preferred men but appearances were more important.

midnightmover said:

That's not what he's saying. What he's saying is in his experience, (and mine) having sex with a so-called straight man isn't as hard as you would think, and you usually aren't approaching them.
It makes it hard to think of all straight men as straight when they keep sending such mixed signals.

WaterInYourBath said:

I have always believed Prince was heterosexual. And still do.

I don't have a warped anything. You don't see the things I or any other gay man sees because you don't live in our world. There is an entire underworld that most straight people know absolutely nothing about because the closet bisexual men (trade) keep their homosexual escapades well hidden from the straight world.

We don't approach them, they approach us. In their mind, they think they are straight but they will get their dick sucked by a gay man. They think because they aren't doing the sucking and because they like women (and they do) that they are straight. But no 100% straight man lets another man even touch his private parts unless it is a doctor examining him. And for the record, these thugs that are running around talking about how they "hate fags" are the main men that are getting their dicks sucked by them. A straight thug is very hard to find because 99% of them fool around. Who do you think is doing all the raping in prison? It sure as hell ain't the queens.

Why is everybody gay but folks get pissed if you say it about Prince?

TheBoyfromtheBand said:

vainandy said:

Say that there! Midnight, go to a gay club, you'll be SOOOOO surprised at all the "straight looking" guys up in there. And omg...don't get me started on the "thugs". In there looking hard as hell getting a lap dance from some femmie ass nukka...:disgust: but outside the club, QUICK to call somebody else a homo or something They do too murich.

Oh Lord, don't get me started on those damn thugs. They love to fuck those damn drag queens. I mean, who do people think are sleeping with drag queens? It certainly isn't gay men. Hell, we want a man and we aren't sick enough in the head to sleep with a sideshow freak that looks like a woman but has a dick. It's these thugs that are fucking them. That's why some of the queens dress in drag because those thugs will go after a drag queen a lot quicker than they will go after a normal gay man.

Those thugs fuck those dragons and then they have the nerve to call us normal gay men "fags" as if they were straight. It takes me to get their ass straight because I will tell them in a minute that I'd rather be a fag than a sick pervert that wants an inbetween gender.
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vainandy said:

Wow. A bigoted homosexual? Interesting.

vainandy said:

You know you ain't never lyin'!!

SUPRMAN said:

I understand what he's saying perfectly well. There are gay men out there who appear to be perfectly straight. What I'm saying is since you, as a gay man, have seen the true colours of these guys, it makes you think that maybe all (or a huge number) of straight men must really be gay. This is a mistake. It's like if my job involves dealing with rapists seven days a week, I might start to think there are more rapists out there than there really are because I'm dealing with them all the time.

That's not bigoted. We're the same as everyone else. A lot of black folks see Uncle Toms and thugs as making their race look bad. A lot of white folks see rednecks and the KKK as making their race look bad. And a lot of gay folks see dragons as making gay people look bad. Nobody wants their entire group judged by the bottom of the barrel of their group.

midnightmover said:

Wow.
That is so not true. It just helps to realize that more than 10% of the population is gay.

vainandy said:

You definitely have a warped view if you think 99% of thugs are chasing dick. Believe me, I know full well that there are men out there leading double lives (I've been hit on by them before, but that's the price you pay for being good looking ). You go to clubs where those type of men tend to congregate, but if there were clubs which only let total heterosexuals into the building you'd quickly see that heteros outnumber homos by a large number. You have lost sight of this because you've led a lifestyle that brings you into contact with gays a lot. I don't dispute your experiences, but I think your experiences have made you lose perspective. On any one night there are a lot more straight guys out there chasing pussies, than gay guys out there chasing dick.

ScarletScandal said:

Pay attention. vainandy said he's not sure gays are really a minority and that 99% of thugs are chasing dick on the downlow. It's these overestimations that I'm arguing about. Please try and keep up.

vainandy said:

Okay, I gotta cosign this right here. I go to drag shows all the time and a really good friend of mine is a performer. This past Sunday I went to a show in a local hole in the wall joint and it was all the "thug boys" (as we call 'em here) all up in the performers faces tipping them looking like they were in love. In the pic above with his stomach showing, Neyo looks like MOST of the dudes that were in the club on Sunday so I guess that's why I can totally see it. I've known dudes like this for over 15 years and although they look straight to MOST I can see the a mile away.

midnightmover said:

Oh, I most definitely know what he's talking about. We're not the minority we're made out to be. Go to the M4M section of craigslist, there's more married and "straight" men than gay men on there.
[Edited 1/14/09 9:04am]

ScarletScandal said:

You just unwittingly proved my point. You are talking about a place where gay men congregate. If you live a large section of your life in these places then you can start to lose perspective. That's the point. No one's denying there are significant numbers of gay men leading double lives, but it's a mistake to think that they are not a minority group. If they weren't a minority then they wouldn't have the problems they have, since society wouldn't be able to maintain the heterosexual illusion if most citizens weren't in fact heterosexual.