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Reply #30 posted 10/27/08 11:15am

Allnall

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nd33 said:

Did they do much jazz/funk stuff like Sweetbacks theme? I love that track! I wanna hear more shit like that! But it seems like they mostly did more polished R&B from what I can see.... who's the guru around here? razz biggrin

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After TTWOTW they were too polished to turn back. It just got slicker and slicker. By the time of I AM it was hopeless. Still a great band, but recent records are not to my tastes and most would agree they're unnecessary to appreciate the band. Stick with the early albums: HEAD TO SKY DAYS & TIME, OPEN OUR EYES NEED OF LOVE


Interesting analysis, PFunk.....

I wonder what you think on this.....

Alot of people "blame" Maurice for moving the band to a more Pop (aka "slick") tilt in their music....however, I was wondering whether you think that maybe Mr. Charles Stepney might take some blame...after all, he was the one who introduced Maurice to the lush strings and more polished approach that started to become noticeable in TTWOTW and afterwards...

Also....interesting to note that Maurice was no longer on the drums after Open Our Eyes....Fred came in....Maurice's style was more funky, whereas Fred was precise....that also could be a contributing factor?????
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Reply #31 posted 10/27/08 11:36am

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its my dad''s favorite band so naturally passed on to me, i borrowed some cds from him. he has all their songs and records, nothing can beat the vinyl sound, a personal favorite is "in the stone", what an awesome track and that intro is crazy, i used to ahve that turned up super loud. Another song that i went crazy with when I first heard it was "jupiter"'

shining star
fantasy
keep your head to the sky
reasons
let''s groove
september
fantasy
after the love has gone

i love all the hits but also their older stuff and lesser known latin vibe tracks. to me the best band ever.


nod Yes they are!

My all time favorite song from them is "That's The Way of The World." It just takes me away...

Other favs:

September
Boogie Wonderland (with the Emotions)
Let's Groove
After The Love Is Gone
Reasons (Live)
Fantasy
Love's Holiday
Can't Hide Love
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Reply #32 posted 10/27/08 2:53pm

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Allnall said:

PFunkjazz said:



After TTWOTW they were too polished to turn back. It just got slicker and slicker. By the time of I AM it was hopeless. Still a great band, but recent records are not to my tastes and most would agree they're unnecessary to appreciate the band. Stick with the early albums: HEAD TO SKY DAYS & TIME, OPEN OUR EYES NEED OF LOVE


Interesting analysis, PFunk.....

I wonder what you think on this.....

Alot of people "blame" Maurice for moving the band to a more Pop (aka "slick") tilt in their music....however, I was wondering whether you think that maybe Mr. Charles Stepney might take some blame...after all, he was the one who introduced Maurice to the lush strings and more polished approach that started to become noticeable in TTWOTW and afterwards...

Also....interesting to note that Maurice was no longer on the drums after Open Our Eyes....Fred came in....Maurice's style was more funky, whereas Fred was precise....that also could be a contributing factor?????
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Stepney surely ain't the blame. He may have put in string and synth arrangements, but his style was alwasys towards the eclectic (ref ROTARY CONNECTION). If you follow the trend it's after his deaththat they got slicker...right in the middle of SPIRIT. A long break for the follow-up, ALL 'N ALL, but it's Maurice working with a crew of outside forces like Eumir Deodato and Eddie del Barrio that bring that album up. I agree there was a move on Maurice's part get more executive, but his biggest mistake was alienating Al McKay. Those whirling guitars were crucial to the EWF sound

FWIW I see Maurice as more of a jazz drummer and Fred more rock (kinda explains him going over to a band like Litte Feat).
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Reply #33 posted 10/27/08 3:03pm

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I think Fantasy has to be the one that really ingrained itself on my psyche as a kid. I must have been 4-5 years old, but I remembered it well when I bought the greatest hits later on. Lets Groove, also, but that came out later, so it wasn't because the song was so great.

There were others, too, like September, That's the Way... They were such fun, beautiful, interesting, unique songs. Not many artists can create a whole world in a song like those.

And as a musician, I am so amazed by the ability of getting such a big group of people to unify on a project and make it sound so effortless. Something like Shining Star has so many crazy changes. Who thought of them? It always felt like a band creation, though I know MW was pretty much the mastermind.
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Reply #34 posted 10/27/08 5:27pm

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My first recollection of EWF was the That's The Way Of The World. As a child growing up in the seventies, that song touched me like no other. Whenever I was down, Keep You Head To The Sky was so inspiring. Shining Star gave me confidence like no other and Reasons (live version) showed me how powerful music can be when you have positive lyrics paired with excellent musicianship. So sad these type of songs are not marketable (so they say).
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Reply #35 posted 10/27/08 5:28pm

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Allnall said:

Some of the greatest music ever laid on vinyl...

Faves include:

Devotion
TTWOTW
Fantasy
Mighty Mighty
September
Pride

and that honestly only scratches the surface....


I think the greatest compliment to an artist is no matter how prolific and time-tested their music is, that it is near to impossible to improve on their tunes.

EWF stands out to me as one of those quintessential groups for which it just does not seem possible to remake their music and improve on it.....I listened to Interpretations, and the countless Jazz artists who have remade thier songs, and while some do justice to the original I just dont think that any have been able to put their own stamp on the songs.

The musicianship is of such a high standard that you can listen to each piece, brass, bass, percussion, vocals and wonder just how close to perfect the music is.

Fantasy, for me, is one of those songs that is as close to perfect as music gets...production, strings, whatever.....Classes could be taught on how intricate it gets....

And I have not even started on the message in the music.....Maurice was so in tune with his desire to make great music that it is no surprise the success they had....and the best part is that EWF is still out there and doing it well.....high profile gigs and great concerts....you can truly be proud to be fan all those many years after it all began.
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Reply #36 posted 10/27/08 5:30pm

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paisleypark4 said:

My favorite song is Imagination.


The pure heavenly soul of P's falcetto and the lovely angel like background vocals just compliment his screams at the end. Its ...like a journey.


I do believe that is my favorite, too. nod And for the same reasons (no pun intended! lol) I wore that song out on vinyl. music
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Reply #37 posted 10/27/08 5:38pm

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theAudience said:


All classic EW&F tunes had these signature elements...

~Great uplifting songs
~The balance between Maurice's macho and Phillip's more delicate vocals
~The uplifting lyrics
~The harmonies
~The sharp horn section
~The rhythm section arrangements, especially the guitar parts.

...which made them such a great band.


Don't forget the string arrangements on the studio tracks! KILLER!!
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Reply #38 posted 10/27/08 5:42pm

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NDRU said:


And as a musician, I am so amazed by the ability of getting such a big group of people to unify on a project and make it sound so effortless.


True.
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Reply #39 posted 10/28/08 12:08am

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NDRU said:

I think Fantasy has to be the one that really ingrained itself on my psyche as a kid. I must have been 4-5 years old, but I remembered it well when I bought the greatest hits later on.


Man,I remember hearing "Fantasy" when it first came out.That song blew me away! There was nothing else on the radio that sounded like it.It's such an amazingly hypnotic,dreamy song that just pulls you into their world.The vocal harmonies are mindblowing.

There were others, too, like September, That's the Way... They were such fun, beautiful, interesting, unique songs. Not many artists can create a whole world in a song like those.


nod EW&F even took a Beatles song ("Got To Get Into My Life") and made it their own.In the 70s,these guys could do anything.



And as a musician, I am so amazed by the ability of getting such a big group of people to unify on a project and make it sound so effortless. Something like Shining Star has so many crazy changes. Who thought of them? It always felt like a band creation, though I know MW was pretty much the mastermind.


The classic 70s line-up (with Al McKay,Larry Dunn,etc) was just incredible.They would go into the studio and create magic.
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Reply #40 posted 10/28/08 2:47am

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EWF have long been my #1 fave band.

Over the years, they've been the one group who's music I've reached for more often than any other.

I used to think it was not only their musicianship & singular humanity, but that they were SO versatile. They seemed to cover it all...jazz...funk...soul..R&B...blues...gospel....rock...disco...just bout everythang except country....ha.

I've finally concluded that they'll always be my fave simply because I never found any other music that FEEEEELS as damned good as EWF. cloud9

Oh...and my list? ALL OF EM lol
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