AlexdeParis said:

And again, BBD was bigger than JG as far as popularity/success goes, hence why he NEEDS to be in a group because he has no appeal other than his hardcore fans.

MuthaFunka said:

The guy sold over 2 million copies with limited crossover success (outside of "Rub You the Right Way" and "My, My, My," top-10 pop hits) and that means "he has no appeal other than his hardcore fans"? I'm not following that at all. Are you saying an R&B singer can't be successful without crossing over? The other LSG fellas were in the same boat as Johnny (especially Gerald) and I don't think any of them "needed" to be in a group.
[Edited 9/11/08 17:06pm]

AlexdeParis said:

No one's knocking what he sold and how he sold it, but you just proved my point that BBD had more crossover success - hence - BBD was more popular/successful than JG. And again, this is EXACTLY why JG NEEDS to be in a group - By himself, he has ONLY his loyalest of fans but outside of that, he's pretty much a non issue in the game. Ask yourself this: Why is JG getting back into a THIRD group if he can be so successful on his own?

LittleBLUECorvette said:

MuthaFunka said:

Maybe the man just likes being in a group? Your argument holds no weight when you consider all of New Edition reformed the group in the mid '90s and again this decade. Furthermore, Bobby at his peak was indisputably the most popular of the N.E. spinoffs, but he is also in the new group.

Timmy84 said:

He's off the stuff!

Think about all the MILFs in the audience

AlexdeParis said:

Or - Maybe he's just not cutting it as a solo artist? Again, he's been in 3 groups. He's the ONLY one that went from "solo" to group". Again, you're probably a huge fan of the dude which means you think he's doing it "for health" but obviously there's a reason why he keeps hopping back into groups.

As for BBrown, he got back in because his star had waned. JG's star was never as bright as BBrown's. So yeah, they all got back into the group once their star faded, but JG was never as big as they were as NE and he certainly wasn't as big as BBrown.

MuthaFunka said:

You're talking in circles. I'll break it down for you:

Pre-N.E. JG - wasn't cutting it as a solo star
N.E. Johnny - co-lead singer
Post-N.E. JG (1990) - a star, making hits like the rest of the N.E. acts
(1993) - Second albums meet with less success across the board
(1996) - JG is the only member left still making hits; Ronnie, Bobby, Ricky, and Mike (and Ralph! ) are all basically retired until N.E. is formed
(1997) - JG forms the supergroup LSG, BB releases a huge flop, and the rest go back into hiding

Everybody in the group was popular in the early '90s. Everybody in the group saw their popularity wane by 1993 or so. Johnny's been the only one to sell anything of note since that time as a solo act (and he's had even more success if you count LSG). The others were mostly flashes in the pan (BBD moreso), but JG has had a long, successful career. Perhaps the dude just likes to eat?

All that ego on one stage.

AlexdeParis said:

You - AGAIN - just mapped it out for me!: JG NEEDS a group in order to be valid! Johnny saw MORE SUCCESS as a GROUP MEMBER than he saw as a SOLO ACT - FACT. So, the only reason we're talking in circles is because YOU KEEP VALIDATING MY ORIGINAL STANCE - JG NEEDS a GROUP! And they've all had long successful careers.

MuthaFunka said:

Fiction. Johnny has as many #1 hits as a solo act as he has in N.E. and LSG combined. He has as many top-10 hits as a solo act as he has in N.E. He has as many top-10 albums as a solo act as he has in N.E. His biggest-selling solo album has sales on par his most successful albums in a group (2x platinum). Those are facts, my friend. I'm done.

AlexdeParis said:

Damn, is that a burger king order??

AlexdeParis said:

Is DeHo supposed to be Bobby?

AlexdeParis said:

FACT: Johnny NEEDS groups or else on his own he's just not "The Man". Think about it: Do you REALLY think he'd have the career he's had if he DIDN'T ever join NE? Hell no . His career was basically dormant until he joined NE. Or else, why would a successful solo act go "group" and split his money and limelight?

JG by himself: He's not bankable. He's not charismatic. He has no personality. He can't dance. He's a Tom Joyner Sky Show act now. He's a crooner. He's a compilation CD provider. He's a throwback. Throwbacks aren't what's poppin'. So he NEEDS a group. Again, why do you think he's ALWAYS getting into a group? ANSWER: He NEEDS to be in a group to become relevant again. Now, not only are WE done...but so is Johnny...UNTIL he gets back into a group .

I wonder if Eddie is gonna be in the audience.....


hmmmmm.....

shorttrini said:

Yeah, the labels had problems with all three of them because they weren't pulling in any profit from recent releases. So the three of them decided to drop it altogether. It would have been a flop anyway.

bboy87 said:

OK, I'll take your word for it... but he still needs to lay off the booze with his beer belly-looking self.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

It does sound like it, doesn't it?

"Hey, waiter, I'll like a JG #1 right there and a BBD #2 right here and get me the BBBB #1240? Thanks."

dancerella said:

"Crack Head" or "Tha Kang" didn't really fit the joke. Considering all the kids he's had, it still works.

The Summit

AlexdeParis said:

carlcranshaw said:

Or "Some of What?"

MuthaFunka said:

O.K.--I will say this: despite how many hits BBD and JG had BACK IN THE DAY--I just saw these two on a bill together in July. EnVogue came out first--did a classy job. BBD came out second and people were on their feet the entire time. JG came out and well, it just wasn't that exciting. As a live performer, he really didn't bring it the way the other two acts had--he really should have been in the middle or first.

NuPwr319 said:

And that's always been the knock on JG = Boring.