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PrintableHarlepolis said: newpower99 said: yo..... #34  Oh!  "Bad Girls" at 34. The actual "Once Upon A Time" album, which wasn't a big seller but super gay, is 72. It's got a whole lot of interesting anti-feminist messages, which I think both genders could find campy and enjoyable. | |
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Anxiety said: i think liz has felt the need to go down a lot of unsavory routes over the years.
 How was the Exile show? Did that happen yet? | |
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Anxiety said: and okay, i have to admit, any list that includes both "exile to guyville" and "living proof" is pretty much tailor-made to my musical worldview.
"Living Proof"....That album was probably gayer than "Believe" but I didn't see it on there....guess I gotta look again. | |
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Anxiety said: i never thought of liz phair as a gay icon, though i always have thought about her as someone i'd like to sit around with all night, smoking cigarettes and getting drunk on cheap wine whilst talking shit about men for hours. so maybe she IS a gay icon. one of my life goals is to put together a one-man show tribute called "exile in gayville". which would be a gay tribute of a woman tribute of an album of a rolling stones album, which gives me a headache to think about and explains why this goal has yet to be achieved.
wait, what's this thread about again?  I would like to bang her, but that's just me. Not trying to prove I'm straight, but of all the rock chicks still out there, she is so damn hot still! I know a gay guy that said he loved her. I asked him "You're not talking about those pop hits, are you?". He mentioned "Exile In Guyville" as the one album he owns. I prefer "Whip Smart". That's some good poppy stuff from Phair. | |
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TRON said: Anxiety said: i think liz has felt the need to go down a lot of unsavory routes over the years.
How was the Exile show? Did that happen yet? it doesn't happen till october 4. | |
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VinnyM27 said: Anxiety said: i never thought of liz phair as a gay icon, though i always have thought about her as someone i'd like to sit around with all night, smoking cigarettes and getting drunk on cheap wine whilst talking shit about men for hours. so maybe she IS a gay icon. one of my life goals is to put together a one-man show tribute called "exile in gayville". which would be a gay tribute of a woman tribute of an album of a rolling stones album, which gives me a headache to think about and explains why this goal has yet to be achieved.
wait, what's this thread about again? I would like to bang her, but that's just me. Not trying to prove I'm straight, but of all the rock chicks still out there, she is so damn hot still! I know a gay guy that said he loved her. I asked him "You're not talking about those pop hits, are you?". He mentioned "Exile In Guyville" as the one album he owns. I prefer "Whip Smart". That's some good poppy stuff from Phair. i like a couple of songs from "whip smart" but "guyville" is just totally important and essential and canonical to me. i feel like it changes the mood of the room when i put it on the stereo, even if i'm the only person in the room. especially so. | |
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VinnyM27 said: "Living Proof"....That album was probably gayer than "Believe" but I didn't see it on there....guess I gotta look again.
I don't think he was talking about Cher. | |
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TRON said: VinnyM27 said: "Living Proof"....That album was probably gayer than "Believe" but I didn't see it on there....guess I gotta look again.
I don't think he was talking about Cher. uh uh, honey 
i was talking about the one and only QUEEN SYLVESTRA 
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Anxiety said: VinnyM27 said: I would like to bang her, but that's just me. Not trying to prove I'm straight, but of all the rock chicks still out there, she is so damn hot still! I know a gay guy that said he loved her. I asked him "You're not talking about those pop hits, are you?". He mentioned "Exile In Guyville" as the one album he owns. I prefer "Whip Smart". That's some good poppy stuff from Phair. i like a couple of songs from "whip smart" but "guyville" is just totally important and essential and canonical to me. i feel like it changes the mood of the room when i put it on the stereo, even if i'm the only person in the room. especially so. I totally adore "Whip Smart" and think that it's become really undervalued with time. Seemed to be well received when it first came out, but even she disowns it in favor of later works at this point. What's up with that? It's really not that far removed from Exile and many of the songs came from the same source batch - Girlysound. The production and songwriting are very related. "Whip Smart" is just a little tighter, a lot less personal and rocks harder. And how could she follow up a double album debut? She had to make something more focused and easily digestible the 2nd time around. But yeah, Exile is hard to beat. It still does crazy things to me even now. When I got the remaster, I couldn't believe how much honesty, truth, pain and humor I still got out of it. That's some of the best writing in rock n roll history, folks.  | |
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A bit of explanation or reasoning would've made sense here, wouldn't it? Because as it stands, this could be any kinf of Top 100 list. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Timmy84 said: HamsterHuey said: How is Nirvana gay, btw?
Kurt Cobain once told reporters he was bisexual. All Apologies starts off with the line, "What else can I say, everyone is gay."  "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: A bit of explanation or reasoning would've made sense here, wouldn't it? Because as it stands, this could be any kinf of Top 100 list.
well, they explained that it was the gayest 100 albums as per OUT magazine, as opposed to any kind of top 100 list. it's just as bullshitty as any other magazine's top 100 albums list, but it just happens to be OUT flavored bullshit.  | |
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Anxiety said: meow85 said: A bit of explanation or reasoning would've made sense here, wouldn't it? Because as it stands, this could be any kinf of Top 100 list.
well, they explained that it was the gayest 100 albums as per OUT magazine, as opposed to any kind of top 100 list. it's just as bullshitty as any other magazine's top 100 albums list, but it just happens to be OUT flavored bullshit. I guess I just have a distaste for lists like these that are just thrown together and published with no explanation. Why these albums are so gay (because not all of them are obvious) and why they're in that order would be nice. I can't remember who was responsible for it, but a while back I read a list of the most unlikely gay anthems, i.e. songs/albums most people wouldn't associate with gay culture but maybe should. Just about everything there on the list was reasoned out. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: Anxiety said: well, they explained that it was the gayest 100 albums as per OUT magazine, as opposed to any kind of top 100 list. it's just as bullshitty as any other magazine's top 100 albums list, but it just happens to be OUT flavored bullshit. I guess I just have a distaste for lists like these that are just thrown together and published with no explanation. Why these albums are so gay (because not all of them are obvious) and why they're in that order would be nice. I can't remember who was responsible for it, but a while back I read a list of the most unlikely gay anthems, i.e. songs/albums most people wouldn't associate with gay culture but maybe should. Just about everything there on the list was reasoned out. Maybe the magazine itself has a description for each album, and so forth. Often, you'll only see the list presented online. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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meow85 said: Anxiety said: well, they explained that it was the gayest 100 albums as per OUT magazine, as opposed to any kind of top 100 list. it's just as bullshitty as any other magazine's top 100 albums list, but it just happens to be OUT flavored bullshit. I guess I just have a distaste for lists like these that are just thrown together and published with no explanation. Why these albums are so gay (because not all of them are obvious) and why they're in that order would be nice. I can't remember who was responsible for it, but a while back I read a list of the most unlikely gay anthems, i.e. songs/albums most people wouldn't associate with gay culture but maybe should. Just about everything there on the list was reasoned out. these lists are silly and ubiquitous. i take them with a grain of salt, but they're good water-cooler conversation starters, i guess. and usually, if you buy the magazine, they'll have little blurbs explaining how each album is relevant to the list, blah blah. fun, but still bs. | |
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Anxiety said: meow85 said: I guess I just have a distaste for lists like these that are just thrown together and published with no explanation. Why these albums are so gay (because not all of them are obvious) and why they're in that order would be nice. I can't remember who was responsible for it, but a while back I read a list of the most unlikely gay anthems, i.e. songs/albums most people wouldn't associate with gay culture but maybe should. Just about everything there on the list was reasoned out. these lists are silly and ubiquitous. i take them with a grain of salt, but they're good water-cooler conversation starters, i guess. and usually, if you buy the magazine, they'll have little blurbs explaining how each album is relevant to the list, blah blah. fun, but still bs. Not to mention totally arbitrary.  "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Anxiety said: TRON said: I don't think he was talking about Cher. uh uh, honey
i was talking about the one and only QUEEN SYLVESTRA
That's right. They have the same name. If I were to get another Sylvester album, that would probably be it. The only album I own from him is probably an oddity (in the fact that it is not regarded as a classic nor is it trashed...it's just sort of there). It's "Rock The Box" (the Unidisc release). It's actually mostly disco but the title track is pure breakdance and there is another song that is funky and sort of ahead of it's time. "I Don't Want To Think About It" is almost new jack! | |
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meow85 said: A bit of explanation or reasoning would've made sense here, wouldn't it? Because as it stands, this could be any kinf of Top 100 list.
they polled over 100 gay actors, musicians, comedians, etc.... it's right there in the first post with the list. | |
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VinnyM27 said: Anxiety said: uh uh, honey
i was talking about the one and only QUEEN SYLVESTRA
That's right. They have the same name. If I were to get another Sylvester album, that would probably be it. The only album I own from him is probably an oddity (in the fact that it is not regarded as a classic nor is it trashed...it's just sort of there). It's "Rock The Box" (the Unidisc release). It's actually mostly disco but the title track is pure breakdance and there is another song that is funky and sort of ahead of it's time. "I Don't Want To Think About It" is almost new jack! this is probably the only sylvester album i own that i enjoy listening to all the way through. it's one of the most vibrant live albums i've ever heard. his voice is amazing, his stage banter is hilarious and charming, and of course the two lovely ladies sound fantastic too. i think until a really quality anthology collection comes out, this is the one sylvester album i would recommend above all others. | |
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meow85 said: Anxiety said: well, they explained that it was the gayest 100 albums as per OUT magazine, as opposed to any kind of top 100 list. it's just as bullshitty as any other magazine's top 100 albums list, but it just happens to be OUT flavored bullshit. I guess I just have a distaste for lists like these that are just thrown together and published with no explanation. Why these albums are so gay (because not all of them are obvious) and why they're in that order would be nice. Doesn't it say in the first paragraph? 
To create our list of the 100 Greatest, Gayest Albums of All Time, we polled more than 100 actors, comedians, musicians, writers, critics, performance artists, label reps, and DJs, asking each to list the 10 albums that left the most indelible impressions on their lives. After receiving responses from Boy George, Rufus Wainwright, Cyndi Lauper, the Indigo Girls’ Amy Ray, Candis Cayne, Perez Hilton, Nate Berkus, Jake Shears, John Cameron Mitchell, Wilson Cruz, Justin Bond, Darren Hayes, Junior Vasquez, Bruce Vilanch, Janis Ian, the Cliks, Ari Gold, Holly Johnson, and a slew of others, we tallied the results to determine our top-100 list. | |
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100 The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
99 Joni Mitchell - For The Roses 97 Janis Ian - Between The Lines 96 Nick Drake - Bryter Layter 93 Sade - Lovers Rock 92 Morrissey - Viva Hate 90 Kate Bush - The Kick Inside 88 Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade 87 Madonna - Confessions On A Dance Floor 86 Madonna - Madonna 85 Nina Simone - Anthology 79 T. Rex - Electric Warrior 77 New Order - Substance 76 Ani DiFranco - Imperfectly 75 Carole King - Tapestry 74 Michael Jackson - Off the Wall 71 Elton John - Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy 68 Nirvana - Nevermind 64 Patti Smith - Easter 63 Björk - Debut 62 Jeff Buckley - Grace 60 R.E.M. - Automatic For The People 58 Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville 57 Prince - Dirty Mind 55 David Bowie - Diamond Dogs 54 Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes 52 Kate Bush - Hounds of Love 49 Patti Smith - Horses 46 Madonna - Ray of Light 43 Prince - Purple Rain 42 ABBA - Gold 39 Laura Nyro And Labelle - Gonna Take A Miracle 38 Dusty Springfield - Dusty In Memphis 37 Blondie - Parallel Lines 36 Madonna - Erotica 34 Donna Summer - Bad Girls 33 The Smiths - Hatful Of Hollow 32 The Smiths - Meat Is Murder 31 Sarah McLachlan - Fumbling Towards Ecstacy 30 Diana Ross - Diana 28 Queen - The Game 27 Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) 25 k.d. lang - Ingénue 23 Deee-Lite - World Clique 21 David Bowie - Hunky Dory 19 The B-52s - The B-52's 18 George Michael - Listen Without Prejudice, Vol. I 17 Lou Reed - Transformer 16 Queen - A Night at the Opera 15 George Michael - Faith 13 Ani DiFranco - Dilate 12 The Velvet Underground & Nico - The Velvet Underground & Nico 09 Cyndi Lauper - She's So Unusual 08 Madonna - The Immaculate Collection 07 Elton John - Goodbye Yellow Brick Road 06 The Smiths - The Queen is Dead 04 Indigo Girls - Indigo Girls 03 Tracy Chapman - Tracy Chapman 02 The Smiths - The Smiths 01 David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars 60%. "Fuck and Run" | |
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meow85 said: Anxiety said: well, they explained that it was the gayest 100 albums as per OUT magazine, as opposed to any kind of top 100 list. it's just as bullshitty as any other magazine's top 100 albums list, but it just happens to be OUT flavored bullshit. I guess I just have a distaste for lists like these that are just thrown together and published with no explanation. Why these albums are so gay (because not all of them are obvious) and why they're in that order would be nice. I can't remember who was responsible for it, but a while back I read a list of the most unlikely gay anthems, i.e. songs/albums most people wouldn't associate with gay culture but maybe should. Just about everything there on the list was reasoned out. basicly it a accumilation of 100 gay people in the industry top 10 albums lists . for whatever thats worth..but they did explain how they come up with it. >>>we polled more than 100 actors, comedians, musicians, writers, critics, performance artists, label reps, and DJs, asking each to list the 10 albums that left the most indelible impressions on their lives. After receiving responses from Boy George, Rufus Wainwright, Cyndi Lauper, the Indigo Girls’ Amy Ray, Candis Cayne, Perez Hilton, Nate Berkus, Jake Shears, John Cameron Mitchell, Wilson Cruz, Justin Bond, Darren Hayes, Junior Vasquez, Bruce Vilanch, Janis Ian, the Cliks, Ari Gold, Holly Johnson, and a slew of others, we tallied the results to determine our top-100 list. <<<< | |
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Cinnie said: this list is more "alt" than "out" I think.
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In God's eyes,
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errant said: meow85 said: A bit of explanation or reasoning would've made sense here, wouldn't it? Because as it stands, this could be any kinf of Top 100 list.
they polled over 100 gay actors, musicians, comedians, etc.... it's right there in the first post with the list. I see that, but it doesn't say why. Without explanation, this could be a list of anything. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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newpower99 said: meow85 said: I guess I just have a distaste for lists like these that are just thrown together and published with no explanation. Why these albums are so gay (because not all of them are obvious) and why they're in that order would be nice. I can't remember who was responsible for it, but a while back I read a list of the most unlikely gay anthems, i.e. songs/albums most people wouldn't associate with gay culture but maybe should. Just about everything there on the list was reasoned out. basicly it a accumilation of 100 gay people in the industry top 10 albums lists . for whatever thats worth..but they did explain how they come up with it. >>>we polled more than 100 actors, comedians, musicians, writers, critics, performance artists, label reps, and DJs, asking each to list the 10 albums that left the most indelible impressions on their lives. After receiving responses from Boy George, Rufus Wainwright, Cyndi Lauper, the Indigo Girls’ Amy Ray, Candis Cayne, Perez Hilton, Nate Berkus, Jake Shears, John Cameron Mitchell, Wilson Cruz, Justin Bond, Darren Hayes, Junior Vasquez, Bruce Vilanch, Janis Ian, the Cliks, Ari Gold, Holly Johnson, and a slew of others, we tallied the results to determine our top-100 list. <<<< But there's no reasoning behind it. I know these lists don't mean anything anyways, but with that approach they could've just asked any 100 people on the street for their opinion. Not everything on this list is obviosuly "gay" or associated with popular gay culture. (Nirvana? Funny, I don't remember Kurt and Co. getting a lot of love at the last Pride parade....) so some reasoning as to why they were included and how they arrived at the ranking would've been cool.[Edited 9/11/08 15:20pm] "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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There's some good stuff on the list but there is also some horrible stuff also. Stuff like Judy Garland and Bette Midler is the reason I stayed in the closet until 1990 because, before then, I thought that all gay people listened to stuff like that and I didn't want to be affiliated in any way, shape, form, or fashion with that type of music. I see comparing the tempo of shit hop to classical music and the fact that it never gets fast to classical music doesn't piss folks off enough to change it. Maybe I'll start calling shit hop "gay" music (the old fashioned stereotypical kind). Since they are so homophobic, maybe that one would work. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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meow85 said: newpower99 said: basicly it a accumilation of 100 gay people in the industry top 10 albums lists . for whatever thats worth..but they did explain how they come up with it. >>>we polled more than 100 actors, comedians, musicians, writers, critics, performance artists, label reps, and DJs, asking each to list the 10 albums that left the most indelible impressions on their lives. After receiving responses from Boy George, Rufus Wainwright, Cyndi Lauper, the Indigo Girls’ Amy Ray, Candis Cayne, Perez Hilton, Nate Berkus, Jake Shears, John Cameron Mitchell, Wilson Cruz, Justin Bond, Darren Hayes, Junior Vasquez, Bruce Vilanch, Janis Ian, the Cliks, Ari Gold, Holly Johnson, and a slew of others, we tallied the results to determine our top-100 list. <<<< But there's no reasoning behind it. I know these lists don't mean anything anyways, but with that approach they could've just asked any 100 people on the street for their opinion. Not everything on this list is obviosuly "gay" or associated with popular gay culture. (Nirvana? Funny, I don't remember Kurt and Co. getting a lot of love at the last Pride parade....) so some reasoning as to why they were included and how they arrived at the ranking would've been cool.
[Edited 9/11/08 15:20pm] does Kurt Cobain wearing a dress on Headbangers Ball count? or whatever the show was... | |
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errant said: meow85 said: But there's no reasoning behind it. I know these lists don't mean anything anyways, but with that approach they could've just asked any 100 people on the street for their opinion. Not everything on this list is obviosuly "gay" or associated with popular gay culture. (Nirvana? Funny, I don't remember Kurt and Co. getting a lot of love at the last Pride parade....) so some reasoning as to why they were included and how they arrived at the ranking would've been cool.
[Edited 9/11/08 15:20pm] does Kurt Cobain wearing a dress on Headbangers Ball count? or whatever the show was... It's not just that. Kurt has always supported gay rights and said in an interview with The Advocate in 1993 that he was "gay in spirit". Also Pat Smear was a member of the band near the end. | |
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