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Reply #30 posted 08/20/08 10:54am

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Not feeling it.

Sounds like Chris and his producer gave this song the "Alicia Keyes treatment"i.e., take parts of older songs and put new lyrics to it and diddle with the melody a little. This song sounds like a mash-up of "Purple Rain" and "The Beautiful Ones" only with, like someone said, robotic vocals. shrug
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Reply #31 posted 08/20/08 10:58am

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I'm not bothered by Chris or the other's... I know that this kid is not marketed to me (he's not even 20 yrs old) He could be doing a lot worse with his life... If the kids enjoy him, who am i to shit on what they like ? I can remember older folks doing the same thing to me with Prince in the 80's and 90's
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Reply #32 posted 08/20/08 10:59am

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bboy87 said:

I got to 8 seconds and turned it off lol


6 for me!
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Reply #33 posted 08/20/08 11:54am

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song sucks, but he's pretty sexy
...in a teenage way boxed
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Reply #34 posted 08/20/08 12:26pm

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chocolate1 said:

When this happens, I play a Prince song for my students to "school them". They need to know...

(U should have seen the looks on their faces after P-Diddy's "Last Night"... eek lol)



Last Night always reminds me of the Eurythmics, not Prince.
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Reply #35 posted 08/20/08 2:28pm

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SUPRMAN said:

chocolate1 said:

When this happens, I play a Prince song for my students to "school them". They need to know...

(U should have seen the looks on their faces after P-Diddy's "Last Night"... eek lol)



Last Night always reminds me of the Eurythmics, not Prince.


NOw I have 2 go pop them in... hmmm

"Love Hurts.
Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

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Reply #36 posted 08/20/08 3:22pm

CosmicDancer

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Bishop31 said:

Chris Brown is really a robot & has no creative input anyway. So I blame this on his Producers & Label for continuously trying to make him an imposter. lol
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Reply #37 posted 08/20/08 4:50pm

eaglebear4839

he does have elements of Purple Rain and The Beautiful Ones in this song. But the lyrics are clumsy, and there are too many syllables incorrectly placed in the verse.

I give Chris Brown props, don't get me wrong, but he could be such a better artist if he didn't let himself fall prey to the hip-hop producing machine, which acts more like it studied the cliffs notes version of 80s r&b music.
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Reply #38 posted 08/20/08 4:53pm

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But now that I hear it, the "guitar solo" reminds me too much of the embarrassing solo Justin Timberlake tried to do at the end of "Lovestoned" on his Madison Square Garden DVD. (And he was proud of it, too. Sigh.)
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Reply #39 posted 08/20/08 5:04pm

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silverchild said:

Why are all of these washed-out R&B wannabes always trying to make Thriller or Purple Rain all over again? It's really getting tired...


Washed out? lol
Wanna-be? lol
Come on now. I understand the defending of Prince that goes on around here but Chris Brown is far from washed out. I'd say you need to catch up. Actually, you need to back up. You must be living in the year 2020 because Chris Brown is basically "new". Ask any 18 year old who Chris Brown is. I bet they know Chris Brown better than they know Prince. This ain't 1985. Chris Brown is one of the biggest R&B stars out right now.



As far as the KEYBOARD SOLO goes (there is no guitar on this song at all), it sounds nothing like any of Prince's solos and its actually good to hear a damn solo of any kind in an R&B song these days. Its rare.
Whoever produced the song jacked the "feel", just like Prince himself used to do on occasion. The beat is close to "The Beautiful Ones" but not identical. The chords are completely different. Its the beat that draws on the Prince influence.
For what its worth, that song is kinda weak but I'm glad to hear a SOLO in it. At least it shows some form of musical expression.


The BIG difference that EVERYONE is ignoring, Chris Brown had nothing to do with the music, Prince does. So hate Prince, whatever, but that kind of "disconnect" that todays artists have to their own music is a problem. This is a manufactured track, case closed. Impress me, hire a real band and use them, someone in RB!

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Reply #40 posted 08/20/08 5:56pm

Flowers2

ok so .. 1st it was Justin Timberlake... then Usher (on his new album)... now Chris Brown... why are they all trying to emulate 'The Beautiful Ones' .. and yeah, Puff too ..


k nevermind.. im just reading the thread now..

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Reply #41 posted 08/20/08 6:04pm

ejnbmore

OMG I LOVE CHRIS and PRINCE EVEN MORE love batting eyes boogie
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Reply #42 posted 08/20/08 6:10pm

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Oh, CHANNELING, not Challenging. I clicked this thread because I thought it was ridiculous for CB to be trying to musically challenge Prince....
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Reply #43 posted 08/20/08 8:39pm

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lastdecember said:

BlaqueKnight said:



Washed out? lol
Wanna-be? lol
Come on now. I understand the defending of Prince that goes on around here but Chris Brown is far from washed out. I'd say you need to catch up. Actually, you need to back up. You must be living in the year 2020 because Chris Brown is basically "new". Ask any 18 year old who Chris Brown is. I bet they know Chris Brown better than they know Prince. This ain't 1985. Chris Brown is one of the biggest R&B stars out right now.



As far as the KEYBOARD SOLO goes (there is no guitar on this song at all), it sounds nothing like any of Prince's solos and its actually good to hear a damn solo of any kind in an R&B song these days. Its rare.
Whoever produced the song jacked the "feel", just like Prince himself used to do on occasion. The beat is close to "The Beautiful Ones" but not identical. The chords are completely different. Its the beat that draws on the Prince influence.
For what its worth, that song is kinda weak but I'm glad to hear a SOLO in it. At least it shows some form of musical expression.


The BIG difference that EVERYONE is ignoring, Chris Brown had nothing to do with the music, Prince does. So hate Prince, whatever, but that kind of "disconnect" that todays artists have to their own music is a problem. This is a manufactured track, case closed. Impress me, hire a real band and use them, someone in RB!



Dissconnect? How do you know he's disconnected? Newsflash: Not everyone in the music business is a multi-instrumentalist/control freak and get this: some great musicians actually allow creative input. Wow, what a concept, eh? I'd love to see more bands in music. Really, I would. When large acts like Chris Brown tour, they use live musicians and usually have rather big shows with extensive arrangements. One of the videos for one of Chris's songs has him performing it with a band.
Yeah, this track is a keyboard/softsynth based track. So were some of Prince's. So are many, no make that MOST of the songs at the top of the charts these days. Those are just the tools used. Its not a stretch in terms of creativity. Still, its a slight step in another direction. I guess that's enough to shake up all of the Prince watchdogs around here. I can't say how long this kid will last in the industry but I can say that people said the same thing about Usher and he's still around. People said the same thing about Prince.
Incidentally, this is the first R&B song I've heard done by a "pop" R&B artist that's headed to the top 40/R&B radio (potential wide circulation) with a solo on it in a long time. Its amazing that the label didn't try to fill that track's real estate with a rapper.
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Reply #44 posted 08/20/08 10:08pm

kano1987

BlaqueKnight said:

lastdecember said:



The BIG difference that EVERYONE is ignoring, Chris Brown had nothing to do with the music, Prince does. So hate Prince, whatever, but that kind of "disconnect" that todays artists have to their own music is a problem. This is a manufactured track, case closed. Impress me, hire a real band and use them, someone in RB!



Dissconnect? How do you know he's disconnected? Newsflash: Not everyone in the music business is a multi-instrumentalist/control freak and get this: some great musicians actually allow creative input. Wow, what a concept, eh? I'd love to see more bands in music. Really, I would. When large acts like Chris Brown tour, they use live musicians and usually have rather big shows with extensive arrangements. One of the videos for one of Chris's songs has him performing it with a band.
Yeah, this track is a keyboard/softsynth based track. So were some of Prince's. So are many, no make that MOST of the songs at the top of the charts these days. Those are just the tools used. Its not a stretch in terms of creativity. Still, its a slight step in another direction. I guess that's enough to shake up all of the Prince watchdogs around here. I can't say how long this kid will last in the industry but I can say that people said the same thing about Usher and he's still around. People said the same thing about Prince.
Incidentally, this is the first R&B song I've heard done by a "pop" R&B artist that's headed to the top 40/R&B radio (potential wide circulation) with a solo on it in a long time. Its amazing that the label didn't try to fill that track's real estate with a rapper.



SORRY FOR BEING RUDE, BUT BLAH BLAH BLAH mad . Chris Brown is lame and will never be taking seriously(my opinion) lol . How many singer have come out dancing like michael jackson????(PLEASE STOP) In the end it doesn't hurt me because so-called singers like chris brown don't last long. Rihanna is today's top (CRAP) "talented" star and she broke (CHRIS SHOULD FOCUS ON THAT). Where the hell is MAXWELL (SINGER) at?????
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Reply #45 posted 08/20/08 10:12pm

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kano1987 said:



SORRY FOR BEING RUDE, BUT BLAH BLAH BLAH mad . Chris Brown is lame and will never be taking seriously(my opinion) lol . How many singer have come out dancing like michael jackson????(PLEASE STOP) In the end it doesn't hurt me because so-called singers like chris brown don't last long. Rihanna is today's top (CRAP) "talented" star and she broke (CHRIS SHOULD FOCUS ON THAT). Where the hell is MAXWELL (SINGER) at?????

Have you been drinking?
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Reply #46 posted 08/20/08 10:19pm

Abdul

BlaqueKnight said:



Its amazing that the label didn't try to fill that track's real estate with a rapper. [/color]


LOL BK, They'll save the guest rapper for the remix I'm sure
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Reply #47 posted 08/20/08 10:25pm

Abdul

BTW the song reminds me of Usher's "Let It Burn" all the way down to the solo as far as what vibe his producer was looking for.
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Reply #48 posted 08/20/08 10:37pm

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MattyJam said:

He's such a loser.


For real. confused
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Reply #49 posted 08/20/08 10:44pm

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kano1987 said:



SORRY FOR BEING RUDE, BUT BLAH BLAH BLAH mad . Chris Brown is lame and will never be taking seriously(my opinion) lol . How many singer have come out dancing like michael jackson????(PLEASE STOP) In the end it doesn't hurt me because so-called singers like chris brown don't last long. Rihanna is today's top (CRAP) "talented" star and she broke (CHRIS SHOULD FOCUS ON THAT). Where the hell is MAXWELL (SINGER) at?????



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Yes....Where is Maxwell?
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Reply #50 posted 08/20/08 11:23pm

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banks said:

Just saw this on Dr Funkenberry's Celeb News

Chris Brown, an admitted dire-hard fan of Prince’s, has a new song called “Glow In The Dark” and it seems he has been listening to the Purple Genius a lot.

Take a listen:



You hear those keyboards? That drum machine? That guitar solo?

Are you feeling it?

Are we hearing things or what?

You tell me.-Dr.FB

Uh,...that's NOT a guitar solo...it's a keyboard solo that's executed to emulate a guitar solo. Oher than that, and a slight vibe of Prince on the drum pattern....it's a standard sounding TODAY r&b track.
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Reply #51 posted 08/21/08 8:02am

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Chris Brown & Company basically jacked Prince's The Beautiful One & Purple Rain.

At least he knows about Prince. Most people around his age never bother to study that much of their music history.
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Reply #52 posted 08/21/08 8:07am

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lastdecember said:

BlaqueKnight said:



Washed out? lol
Wanna-be? lol
Come on now. I understand the defending of Prince that goes on around here but Chris Brown is far from washed out. I'd say you need to catch up. Actually, you need to back up. You must be living in the year 2020 because Chris Brown is basically "new". Ask any 18 year old who Chris Brown is. I bet they know Chris Brown better than they know Prince. This ain't 1985. Chris Brown is one of the biggest R&B stars out right now.



As far as the KEYBOARD SOLO goes (there is no guitar on this song at all), it sounds nothing like any of Prince's solos and its actually good to hear a damn solo of any kind in an R&B song these days. Its rare.
Whoever produced the song jacked the "feel", just like Prince himself used to do on occasion. The beat is close to "The Beautiful Ones" but not identical. The chords are completely different. Its the beat that draws on the Prince influence.
For what its worth, that song is kinda weak but I'm glad to hear a SOLO in it. At least it shows some form of musical expression.


The BIG difference that EVERYONE is ignoring, Chris Brown had nothing to do with the music, Prince does. So hate Prince, whatever, but that kind of "disconnect" that todays artists have to their own music is a problem. This is a manufactured track, case closed. Impress me, hire a real band and use them, someone in RB!


But didn't Prince help make it cool to use synthesizers & drum machines? Keep in mind that the MPLS sounds is very "easy" to recreate.
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Reply #53 posted 08/21/08 8:25am

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Ha, it kinda reminds me of both the Beautiful Ones and Insatiable.

Only it's not as good. wink
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Reply #54 posted 08/21/08 12:24pm

kano1987

Alasseon said:

Ha, it kinda reminds me of both the Beautiful Ones and Insatiable.

Only it's not as good. wink


STOP BEING SO NICE. lol CHRIS BROWN MUSIC IS LAME(MY OPINION)!!! cool
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Reply #55 posted 08/21/08 12:29pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

silverchild said:

Why are all of these washed-out R&B wannabes always trying to make Thriller or Purple Rain all over again? It's really getting tired...


Washed out? lol
Wanna-be? lol
Come on now. I understand the defending of Prince that goes on around here but Chris Brown is far from washed out. I'd say you need to catch up. Actually, you need to back up. You must be living in the year 2020 because Chris Brown is basically "new". Ask any 18 year old who Chris Brown is. I bet they know Chris Brown better than they know Prince. This ain't 1985. Chris Brown is one of the biggest R&B stars out right now.



As far as the KEYBOARD SOLO goes (there is no guitar on this song at all), it sounds nothing like any of Prince's solos and its actually good to hear a damn solo of any kind in an R&B song these days. Its rare.
Whoever produced the song jacked the "feel", just like Prince himself used to do on occasion. The beat is close to "The Beautiful Ones" but not identical. The chords are completely different. Its the beat that draws on the Prince influence.
For what its worth, that song is kinda weak but I'm glad to hear a SOLO in it. At least it shows some form of musical expression.

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"Its the beat that draws on the Prince influence. "

Why are you being so riduculous with the details? The point is P is a big influnce on a lot of artist today and if you think

Chris Brown has staying power you need to take a look back a few years ago when a lot of people believed “Mario” was going to have staying power.

It all about a lot of artist not being able to live up to the hype that the music industry puts out. These kids do not have the talent or the work ethic to last beyond 3 CDS.

What they have is a set of producers who know how to rip off the Minn sound which was the last time RnB had any crossover appeal.
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Reply #56 posted 08/21/08 12:39pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

lastdecember said:



The BIG difference that EVERYONE is ignoring, Chris Brown had nothing to do with the music, Prince does. So hate Prince, whatever, but that kind of "disconnect" that todays artists have to their own music is a problem. This is a manufactured track, case closed. Impress me, hire a real band and use them, someone in RB!



Dissconnect? How do you know he's disconnected? Newsflash: Not everyone in the music business is a multi-instrumentalist/control freak and get this: some great musicians actually allow creative input. Wow, what a concept, eh? I'd love to see more bands in music. Really, I would. When large acts like Chris Brown tour, they use live musicians and usually have rather big shows with extensive arrangements. One of the videos for one of Chris's songs has him performing it with a band.
Yeah, this track is a keyboard/softsynth based track. So were some of Prince's. So are many, no make that MOST of the songs at the top of the charts these days. Those are just the tools used. Its not a stretch in terms of creativity. Still, its a slight step in another direction. I guess that's enough to shake up all of the Prince watchdogs around here. I can't say how long this kid will last in the industry but I can say that people said the same thing about Usher and he's still around. People said the same thing about Prince.
Incidentally, this is the first R&B song I've heard done by a "pop" R&B artist that's headed to the top 40/R&B radio (potential wide circulation) with a solo on it in a long time. Its amazing that the label didn't try to fill that track's real estate with a rapper.


Its not about being a "control freak", disconnect is simply not having a hand in any form of the creativity period. I cant give passes to Chris Brown or even Usher or other cats like Lloyd till i start seeing their names in production and lyrics and music, and start seeing output that is more relevant than "just what the zombies that listen to radio want or can handle", shake the cage, these cats arent doing it. Sorry but Prince,Stevie etc..were all "shaking the cage", Chris Brown aint shaking shit, except when he tries to dance like Michael. Does he have talent, ok somewhat, but so do 9 thousand others, there is NOTHING that seperates him from anyone else in that genre, and just because he is popular in that genre, dont mean shit either, the airtime and play is all bought and sold, play anyone 24/7 and people at some point will buy it because theres nothing else being fed to them, people are sheep for the most part, or have we forgotten that? i mean look at the 2 presidential candidates, worse and worser, but people dont give a crap, give me my soundbyte. Chris Brown is no more than this years Usher and look at how his "popularity" has tanked, and why, nothing seperating him from any of the others, no identity.

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Reply #57 posted 08/21/08 12:42pm

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laurarichardson said:


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"Its the beat that draws on the Prince influence. "

Why are you being so riduculous with the details? The point is P is a big influnce on a lot of artist today and if you think

Chris Brown has staying power you need to take a look back a few years ago when a lot of people believed “Mario” was going to have staying power.

It all about a lot of artist not being able to live up to the hype that the music industry puts out. These kids do not have the talent or the work ethic to last beyond 3 CDS.

What they have is a set of producers who know how to rip off the Minn sound which was the last time RnB had any crossover appeal.


I said "I don't know how long this kid is going to be in the business". I don't and YOU don't either so quit with the nonsense. He can sing better than Mario, he's "more marketable" than Mario (ask young girls) and he can dance better than Mario. That makes him more of an industry commodity. Like I said , YOU DON'T KNOW. He may fall to the wayside like Mario or he may stick around like Usher and grow into his own sound enough to carve out an identity.
You are obsessed with Prince, not everyone else in the music business. You want me to say the song is an exact copy when its NOT. I just told the truth with specifics. You have a problem with that? Tough. It changes NOTHING.
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Reply #58 posted 08/21/08 12:43pm

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lastdecember said:

BlaqueKnight said:




Dissconnect? How do you know he's disconnected? Newsflash: Not everyone in the music business is a multi-instrumentalist/control freak and get this: some great musicians actually allow creative input. Wow, what a concept, eh? I'd love to see more bands in music. Really, I would. When large acts like Chris Brown tour, they use live musicians and usually have rather big shows with extensive arrangements. One of the videos for one of Chris's songs has him performing it with a band.
Yeah, this track is a keyboard/softsynth based track. So were some of Prince's. So are many, no make that MOST of the songs at the top of the charts these days. Those are just the tools used. Its not a stretch in terms of creativity. Still, its a slight step in another direction. I guess that's enough to shake up all of the Prince watchdogs around here. I can't say how long this kid will last in the industry but I can say that people said the same thing about Usher and he's still around. People said the same thing about Prince.
Incidentally, this is the first R&B song I've heard done by a "pop" R&B artist that's headed to the top 40/R&B radio (potential wide circulation) with a solo on it in a long time. Its amazing that the label didn't try to fill that track's real estate with a rapper.


Its not about being a "control freak", disconnect is simply not having a hand in any form of the creativity period. I cant give passes to Chris Brown or even Usher or other cats like Lloyd till i start seeing their names in production and lyrics and music, and start seeing output that is more relevant than "just what the zombies that listen to radio want or can handle", shake the cage, these cats arent doing it. Sorry but Prince,Stevie etc..were all "shaking the cage", Chris Brown aint shaking shit, except when he tries to dance like Michael. Does he have talent, ok somewhat, but so do 9 thousand others, there is NOTHING that seperates him from anyone else in that genre, and just because he is popular in that genre, dont mean shit either, the airtime and play is all bought and sold, play anyone 24/7 and people at some point will buy it because theres nothing else being fed to them, people are sheep for the most part, or have we forgotten that? i mean look at the 2 presidential candidates, worse and worser, but people dont give a crap, give me my soundbyte. Chris Brown is no more than this years Usher and look at how his "popularity" has tanked, and why, nothing seperating him from any of the others, no identity.

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Reply #59 posted 08/21/08 12:48pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

laurarichardson said:


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"Its the beat that draws on the Prince influence. "

Why are you being so riduculous with the details? The point is P is a big influnce on a lot of artist today and if you think

Chris Brown has staying power you need to take a look back a few years ago when a lot of people believed “Mario” was going to have staying power.

It all about a lot of artist not being able to live up to the hype that the music industry puts out. These kids do not have the talent or the work ethic to last beyond 3 CDS.

What they have is a set of producers who know how to rip off the Minn sound which was the last time RnB had any crossover appeal.


I said "I don't know how long this kid is going to be in the business". I don't and YOU don't either so quit with the nonsense. He can sing better than Mario, he's "more marketable" than Mario (ask young girls) and he can dance better than Mario. That makes him more of an industry commodity. Like I said , YOU DON'T KNOW. He may fall to the wayside like Mario or he may stick around like Usher and grow into his own sound enough to carve out an identity.
You are obsessed with Prince, not everyone else in the music business. You want me to say the song is an exact copy when its NOT. I just told the truth with specifics. You have a problem with that? Tough. It changes NOTHING.

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There is nothing to change because it is reality. It is a Prince rip off and that was the last time RnB had any crossover appeal (in plain English sold a lot of records) which is what the music industry would like to see today. RnB and Rap are the worst selling genres of music today. How did this happen because of non-talented 3 cd having and gone artist just like Mario and perhaps Chris Brown.

No bands, No creativity and no thinking outside of the box.

I cannot believe anyone over the age of 25 would think this kid has any talent beyond dancing like Mike Jackson but maybe that is the problem with RnB and Rnb fans no thinking is been done out of the box at all.
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