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Thread started 07/25/08 9:15am

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Rare song written by Mj for others

If I am not mistaken, all these songs are supposed to be written by MJ and they´re all beautiful.

Ralph Tresvant - Alright Now


Blackstreet - Joy


Bryan Loren - Satisfy You (The strings remind me a bit of Prince´s The One)
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Reply #1 posted 07/25/08 9:53am

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I know for sure that Joy was written by MJ. It was a Dangerous track that TR picked up after MJ had completed the album. It's also one of my favorite Blackstreet songs.
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Reply #2 posted 07/25/08 10:56am

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Is MJ doing backing vocals on Satisfy You and Joy? It sounds like him...
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Reply #3 posted 07/25/08 11:01am

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daPrettyman said:

I know for sure that Joy was written by MJ. It was a Dangerous track that TR picked up after MJ had completed the album. It's also one of my favorite Blackstreet songs.


Yeah, I love "Joy", probably my fave Blackstreet song. I wonder how it would have turned out if MJ had sang it himself and included it on the "Dangerous" album.
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Reply #4 posted 07/25/08 12:58pm

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yeah, all those three were written by MJ. It's Alright Now is from 1989.
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Reply #5 posted 07/25/08 12:59pm

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there's a another rare one called: I Never Know or sth like that from Safire!
he wrote many songs for others.
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Reply #6 posted 07/25/08 2:47pm

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Cinnamon234 said:

daPrettyman said:

I know for sure that Joy was written by MJ. It was a Dangerous track that TR picked up after MJ had completed the album. It's also one of my favorite Blackstreet songs.


Yeah, I love "Joy", probably my fave Blackstreet song. I wonder how it would have turned out if MJ had sang it himself and included it on the "Dangerous" album.

Yeah, I've thought of that too. MJ should have let Teddy do a ballad on the album because Teddy could really write a damn good one.
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Reply #7 posted 07/25/08 4:09pm

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Wow, 'Joy' SCREAMS of MJ influence lol biggrin
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Reply #8 posted 07/25/08 4:45pm

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Zeezow said:

Wow, 'Joy' SCREAMS of MJ influence lol biggrin

It should be. He wrote it (and probably recorded it). I'm surprised Teddy didn't try to sell those demos as well.
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Reply #9 posted 07/25/08 6:02pm

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daPrettyman said:

Zeezow said:

Wow, 'Joy' SCREAMS of MJ influence lol biggrin

It should be. He wrote it (and probably recorded it). I'm surprised Teddy didn't try to sell those demos as well.



From what I read, there is one floating around. He left it off because to MJ, it did not fit the feel of the album. I believe, "Heal the world", took it's place.
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Reply #10 posted 07/25/08 9:42pm

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shorttrini said:

daPrettyman said:


It should be. He wrote it (and probably recorded it). I'm surprised Teddy didn't try to sell those demos as well.



From what I read, there is one floating around. He left it off because to MJ, it did not fit the feel of the album. I believe, "Heal the world", took it's place.

If that's true....that's not a good thing. I HATE HTW. It is probably one of the worst MJ songs (to me)....ever.
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Reply #11 posted 07/26/08 2:05am

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I love HTW and I don't believe the story's true. HW is one of the songs that was always supoosed to be on his next album after BAD.
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Reply #12 posted 07/26/08 8:39pm

ReggaeQueen

'Heal The World' is simply one of MJ's best songs ever in my opinion.

'Joy' is definetly MJ'esque! You learn something new everyday 'cause I did'nt know this.
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Reply #13 posted 07/27/08 2:59am

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there are some songs he wrote. Do you know Children's Holiday and People All Over The World by the J-People?
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Reply #14 posted 07/27/08 3:45pm

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dag said:

If I am not mistaken, all these songs are supposed to be written by MJ and they´re all beautiful.

Ralph Tresvant - Alright Now


Blackstreet - Joy


Bryan Loren - Satisfy You (The strings remind me a bit of Prince´s The One)



I thought Teddy Riley wrote "Joy" for his new born daughter at the time. Are you sure Michael Jackson wrote that?
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Reply #15 posted 07/27/08 3:47pm

dseann

Let's not forget the timeless "Muscles" for Dianne Ross. What a macho classic written by a macho man. lol
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Reply #16 posted 07/27/08 4:19pm

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dseann said:

dag said:

If I am not mistaken, all these songs are supposed to be written by MJ and they´re all beautiful.

Ralph Tresvant - Alright Now


Blackstreet - Joy


Bryan Loren - Satisfy You (The strings remind me a bit of Prince´s The One)



I thought Teddy Riley wrote "Joy" for his new born daughter at the time. Are you sure Michael Jackson wrote that?


Yes, Michael wrote it.
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Reply #17 posted 07/27/08 4:46pm

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I don't like that version of Joy, as the other one they have. It's a little different. The one I like I can't find on Youtube. sad It's similiar, but better in my opinion. It's just a slight difference in the music.
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Reply #18 posted 07/27/08 6:16pm

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DiamondGlove said:

I don't like that version of Joy, as the other one they have. It's a little different. The one I like I can't find on Youtube. sad It's similiar, but better in my opinion. It's just a slight difference in the music.

Well, here's the other remix:

Blackstreet - Joy (Uptown Joy)

If it isn't that one, you're probably talking about the album version. I greatly prefer the New Carnegie Mix. The piano line adds a lot to the song IMO.
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Reply #19 posted 07/27/08 6:54pm

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DiamondGlove said:

I don't like that version of Joy, as the other one they have. It's a little different. The one I like I can't find on Youtube. sad It's similiar, but better in my opinion. It's just a slight difference in the music.

Well, here's the other remix:

Blackstreet - Joy (Uptown Joy)

If it isn't that one, you're probably talking about the album version. I greatly prefer the New Carnegie Mix. The piano line adds a lot to the song IMO.


Thank, but no, that's not it. The one I like is exactly identical as the one in the first post, except without the extra strings and piano. And the chorus has more layer. Also at 3:05 it has the mini rap "Check 1, check 2, there isn't nothing in this world that I wouldn't do for you. Check 1, check 2, I can't hold back. I'm in love with you." repeated twice.
Those are the only differences.
Is the one I'm talking about the album version? If so, that's the one I like.
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Reply #20 posted 07/27/08 8:40pm

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DiamondGlove said:

AlexdeParis said:


Well, here's the other remix:
[youtube]If it isn't that one, you're probably talking about the album version. I greatly prefer the New Carnegie Mix. The piano line adds a lot to the song IMO.


Thank, but no, that's not it. The one I like is exactly identical as the one in the first post, except without the extra strings and piano. And the chorus has more layer. Also at 3:05 it has the mini rap "Check 1, check 2, there isn't nothing in this world that I wouldn't do for you. Check 1, check 2, I can't hold back. I'm in love with you." repeated twice.
Those are the only differences.
Is the one I'm talking about the album version? If so, that's the one I like.

Yes, that's the album version.
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Reply #21 posted 07/28/08 3:17am

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ReggaeQueen said:

'Heal The World' is simply one of MJ's best songs ever in my opinion.

Say whaaat?!? whofarted
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Reply #22 posted 07/28/08 11:35am

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'Heal The World' is simply one of MJ's best songs ever in my opinion.

'Joy' is definetly MJ'esque! You learn something new everyday 'cause I did'nt know this.
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You are being sarcastic? Right?
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Reply #23 posted 07/28/08 2:13pm

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I discovered Satisfy You last year and I like it. It has a similair feel like Someone Put Your Hand Out, a bit sad, as MJ is. I miss his melodies....

Don't forget his spectacular (ironic) song for Siegfried & Roy!!!
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Reply #24 posted 07/29/08 6:20am

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graecophilos said:

I discovered Satisfy You last year and I like it. It has a similair feel like Someone Put Your Hand Out, a bit sad, as MJ is. I miss his melodies....

Don't forget his spectacular (ironic) song for Siegfried & Roy!!!

Me too. His melodies are like no other.

And I just looooove Someone Put Your Hand Out - that´s just a perfect song, with the perfect lyrics - so touching.
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Reply #25 posted 07/29/08 7:24am

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yes, it's really great. especially the middle bit is touching
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