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Reply #30 posted 07/17/08 11:52am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Matronik said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Is amazing touched


yes it is!

let's make this a PJ thread

I have no problem with that lol
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Reply #31 posted 07/17/08 11:53am

Matronik

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Matronik said:



yes it is!

let's make this a PJ thread

I have no problem with that lol


Let's make this the 1st PJ thread with 3 pages!
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Reply #32 posted 07/17/08 12:01pm

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Meloh9 said:

vainandy said:

The reason that Prince has fans that are "musically sophisticated" is because Prince himself never disappeared and continues to make albums that contain real music on them. Yeah, he sells out from time to time with a few bullshit shit hop sounding tracks like "Incense and Candles" or "Mr. Goodnight", but he still puts some actual jams on the album also like "Chelsae Rodgers", "Love", or "Lolita".

All the rest of the artists of Prince's heyday have either retired or sold out completely to the shit hop sound. Since Prince never left, he's been the only outlet for people to find good music without having to "search and look for it" (oh that makes me sick when I hear people use that cop out). Naturally, his fans that have good taste are going to discuss other good artists too. If he'd stop making sellout tracks like "Incense and Candles" and "Mr. Goodnight", a lot of those fans with current tastes would leave. Of course, Prince never totally wanted to do completely right. Hell, just look at the change after "Purple Rain". evillol



have you ever created a post or replied to a topic without the word "shithop" in it lol


It just comes natural because it's presence is everywhere from background music in TV commercials to shit hop slang and words in all the talk shows. It's a damn epidemic. lol
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Reply #33 posted 07/17/08 12:45pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Be Quiet Y! mad

lol


The wind...


Did you pass it?
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Reply #34 posted 07/17/08 12:45pm

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Annika said:

Nothing to do with musical sophistication, my friend, just cold, hard gossip. You will notice that veeery few of the Michael/Madonna/Janet threads have anything at all to do with music, and that thread about Aretha attacking Beyonce went on for quite some time.

So yeah, as far as this board is concerned gossip > music, it seems. Human nature, ya know? smile

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Reply #35 posted 07/17/08 12:49pm

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I think this thread needs to be divided up into 2 sections. Generation X and Generation Y. Gen X are the ones who tend to be musically sophisticated whereas Gen Y has grown up on crap music and tend not to know any better.

Although there are some veterans up in the janet, madonna and MJ threads lol


I'm a Y but I don't like today's bullshit. lol
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Reply #36 posted 07/17/08 12:50pm

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There are many people in this forum that aren't Prince fans...that's not to say that that has anything to do with the quality of threads here.

Co-sign.
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Reply #37 posted 07/17/08 12:55pm

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Graycap23 said:

PurpleCharm said:

There are many people in this forum that aren't Prince fans...that's not to say that that has anything to do with the quality of threads here.

Co-sign.

Double co-sign
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Reply #38 posted 07/17/08 12:56pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:



lol

The Michael/Madonna/Janet threads do seem to overwhelm this board.

Without question but they are also threads that people really seem to get wrapped up in and it make the threads entertaining. I think that's part of why they are so popular in this section. I ALWAYS get amused and amazed when I read other orgers views on those 3 people, Mariah Carey or some other artist whose thread always gets 100 or more replies.


lol Yeah and some of us don't do no better posting on the threads. lol What is it about these pop artists that we can't ignore yet talk about jazz, soul, funk and even Motown artists get overlooked? I sometimes post on the Prince forum 'cause I like Prince, some people here don't even do that. neutral
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Reply #39 posted 07/17/08 12:57pm

Timmy84

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Graycap23 said:


Co-sign.

Double co-sign


Triple that bitch. lol
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Reply #40 posted 07/17/08 1:00pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I think this thread needs to be divided up into 2 sections. Generation X and Generation Y. Gen X are the ones who tend to be musically sophisticated whereas Gen Y has grown up on crap music and tend not to know any better.

And what about The Boomers?..hmph!


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Reply #41 posted 07/17/08 1:01pm

Timmy84

theAudience said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I think this thread needs to be divided up into 2 sections. Generation X and Generation Y. Gen X are the ones who tend to be musically sophisticated whereas Gen Y has grown up on crap music and tend not to know any better.

And what about The Boomers?..hmph!


tA

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Ooh, busted. lol

The Boomers and Generation X rocks. cool
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Reply #42 posted 07/17/08 1:06pm

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theAudience said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I think this thread needs to be divided up into 2 sections. Generation X and Generation Y. Gen X are the ones who tend to be musically sophisticated whereas Gen Y has grown up on crap music and tend not to know any better.

And what about The Boomers?..hmph!


tA

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I don't think of you like a grandpa! redface

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Reply #43 posted 07/17/08 1:10pm

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I agree with you Jony.
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Reply #44 posted 07/17/08 1:10pm

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Timmy84 said:

theAudience said:



Ooh, busted. lol

The Boomers and Generation X rocks. cool

Now that's more like it... smile


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Reply #45 posted 07/17/08 1:13pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

theAudience said:



I don't think of you like a grandpa! redface

smile

eek

OK, check the chorus...



...nod


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Reply #46 posted 07/17/08 1:27pm

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theAudience said:

Annika said:

Nothing to do with musical sophistication, my friend, just cold, hard gossip. You will notice that veeery few of the Michael/Madonna/Janet threads have anything at all to do with music, and that thread about Aretha attacking Beyonce went on for quite some time.

So yeah, as far as this board is concerned gossip > music, it seems. Human nature, ya know? smile

http://prince.org/msg/3/172560
http://prince.org/msg/3/202263



cool


This is a good idea. How can we make it happen?
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Reply #47 posted 07/17/08 1:49pm

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JackieBlue said:

theAudience said:



This is a good idea. How can we make it happen?

Your guess is as good as mine. shrug

As has been said, the reality of it is that people are gonna talk about what they want to talk about.
So really it's just up to folks to post more substantive topics and hope they catch on.



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Reply #48 posted 07/17/08 2:08pm

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Timmy84 said:

purplecam said:


Without question but they are also threads that people really seem to get wrapped up in and it make the threads entertaining. I think that's part of why they are so popular in this section. I ALWAYS get amused and amazed when I read other orgers views on those 3 people, Mariah Carey or some other artist whose thread always gets 100 or more replies.


lol Yeah and some of us don't do no better posting on the threads. lol What is it about these pop artists that we can't ignore yet talk about jazz, soul, funk and even Motown artists get overlooked? I sometimes post on the Prince forum 'cause I like Prince, some people here don't even do that. neutral

And that baffles the shit outta me. As said before, we have some people who aren't Prince fans here. Don't hate on me for asking and this is not to you Timmy84 but for others here, why go to a fansite for someone who's music you don't care for today if ever? I love many artists but not like I do Prince and that's why I come to the org and other P sites. This section is a bonus to me and I really enjoy it and I'm glad it's not exclusively on Prince. I can't knock those who go where they do on here but I just don't understand the logic of coming to a website for someone you're not a fan of. That's tacky to me.
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Reply #49 posted 07/17/08 2:19pm

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purplecam said:

Timmy84 said:



lol Yeah and some of us don't do no better posting on the threads. lol What is it about these pop artists that we can't ignore yet talk about jazz, soul, funk and even Motown artists get overlooked? I sometimes post on the Prince forum 'cause I like Prince, some people here don't even do that. neutral

And that baffles the shit outta me. As said before, we have some people who aren't Prince fans here. Don't hate on me for asking and this is not to you Timmy84 but for others here, why go to a fansite for someone who's music you don't care for today if ever? I love many artists but not like I do Prince and that's why I come to the org and other P sites. This section is a bonus to me and I really enjoy it and I'm glad it's not exclusively on Prince. I can't knock those who go where they do on here but I just don't understand the logic of coming to a website for someone you're not a fan of. That's tacky to me.


Because they see sexy beautiful hot boos like you and can't stay away batting eyes
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Reply #50 posted 07/17/08 3:25pm

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purplecam said:

Timmy84 said:



lol Yeah and some of us don't do no better posting on the threads. lol What is it about these pop artists that we can't ignore yet talk about jazz, soul, funk and even Motown artists get overlooked? I sometimes post on the Prince forum 'cause I like Prince, some people here don't even do that. neutral

And that baffles the shit outta me. As said before, we have some people who aren't Prince fans here. Don't hate on me for asking and this is not to you Timmy84 but for others here, why go to a fansite for someone who's music you don't care for today if ever? I love many artists but not like I do Prince and that's why I come to the org and other P sites. This section is a bonus to me and I really enjoy it and I'm glad it's not exclusively on Prince. I can't knock those who go where they do on here but I just don't understand the logic of coming to a website for someone you're not a fan of. That's tacky to me.


lol For me there's Prince. Then there's everybody else.

I wouldn't bother with a site of a person I'm not a fan of. There are too many other forums and blogs and sites to hang out on of folks I do like to discuss music and such.

I haven't posted on the Prince forum in ages. boxed I used to but it was very cliquish over there and I don't have patience for that. Obviously, we all have something in common that's why we're there. I still check the threads tho. Maybe one day I'll start posting again but I can barely keep up here as it is. I like the variety especially when Prince is out of sight.
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Reply #51 posted 07/17/08 3:27pm

Timmy84

JackieBlue said:

purplecam said:


And that baffles the shit outta me. As said before, we have some people who aren't Prince fans here. Don't hate on me for asking and this is not to you Timmy84 but for others here, why go to a fansite for someone who's music you don't care for today if ever? I love many artists but not like I do Prince and that's why I come to the org and other P sites. This section is a bonus to me and I really enjoy it and I'm glad it's not exclusively on Prince. I can't knock those who go where they do on here but I just don't understand the logic of coming to a website for someone you're not a fan of. That's tacky to me.


lol For me there's Prince. Then there's everybody else.

I wouldn't bother with a site of a person I'm not a fan of. There are too many other forums and blogs and sites to hang out on of folks I do like to discuss music and such.

I haven't posted on the Prince forum in ages. boxed I used to but it was very cliquish over there and I don't have patience for that. Obviously, we all have something in common that's why we're there. I still check the threads tho. Maybe one day I'll start posting again but I can barely keep up here as it is. I like the variety especially when Prince is out of sight.


I post there from time to time. smile

I posted there today.

And purplecam, I definitely got ya. nod
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Reply #52 posted 07/17/08 3:34pm

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Timmy84 said:

JackieBlue said:



lol For me there's Prince. Then there's everybody else.

I wouldn't bother with a site of a person I'm not a fan of. There are too many other forums and blogs and sites to hang out on of folks I do like to discuss music and such.

I haven't posted on the Prince forum in ages. boxed I used to but it was very cliquish over there and I don't have patience for that. Obviously, we all have something in common that's why we're there. I still check the threads tho. Maybe one day I'll start posting again but I can barely keep up here as it is. I like the variety especially when Prince is out of sight.


I post there from time to time. smile

I posted there today.

And purplecam, I definitely got ya. nod


Yeah, I see you and Purplecam are active. I might visit and drop a post or two and see what's up. wink
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Reply #53 posted 07/17/08 3:55pm

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Timmy84 said:



lol Yeah and some of us don't do no better posting on the threads. lol What is it about these pop artists that we can't ignore yet talk about jazz, soul, funk and even Motown artists get overlooked? I sometimes post on the Prince forum 'cause I like Prince, some people here don't even do that. neutral

And that baffles the shit outta me. As said before, we have some people who aren't Prince fans here. Don't hate on me for asking and this is not to you Timmy84 but for others here, why go to a fansite for someone who's music you don't care for today if ever? I love many artists but not like I do Prince and that's why I come to the org and other P sites. This section is a bonus to me and I really enjoy it and I'm glad it's not exclusively on Prince. I can't knock those who go where they do on here but I just don't understand the logic of coming to a website for someone you're not a fan of. That's tacky to me.




Oh I guess I end up posting here more often than the Prince related pages, at least lately. I AM a Prince fan though!! Used to post more at the NPG board years ago. Not sure why that is, I guess I'm in a phase where I'm not jamming the Prince as often as before. It comes & goes.

I like the general music chat here cuz it's coming from a lot of different points of view than the other rock-centric boards I post on.
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Reply #54 posted 07/17/08 8:04pm

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I'm 100% positive that someone has already made this point, but I'm not going to read through the entire thread to verify.

The reason that certain, very popular (or once popular) artists get discussed ad nauseum on here is the same reason those some artists sell (or sold) a lot of records. They have a lot of fans, they appeal to a broad base, they do a lot to keep themselves in the public eye. The reasons you see a lot of people discussing these artists at length are the same reasons you see them all over the media, tabloids, charts, etc. Success perpetuates itself.

Why would anyone think there would be more and more frequent discussion of artists like Miles Davis, Zapp, Chaka, etc. here than anywhere else in the world?

This IS a website dedicated to a man who is first and foremost a pop star and pop artist and has more in common with MJ, Madonna, Mariah, Janet, etc. Or at least those are the qualities that attracted the majority of his fans.
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Reply #55 posted 07/17/08 8:11pm

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errant said:

I'm 100% positive that someone has already made this point, but I'm not going to read through the entire thread to verify.

The reason that certain, very popular (or once popular) artists get discussed ad nauseum on here is the same reason those some artists sell (or sold) a lot of records. They have a lot of fans, they appeal to a broad base, they do a lot to keep themselves in the public eye. The reasons you see a lot of people discussing these artists at length are the same reasons you see them all over the media, tabloids, charts, etc. Success perpetuates itself.

Why would anyone think there would be more and more frequent discussion of artists like Miles Davis, Zapp, Chaka, etc. here than anywhere else in the world?

This IS a website dedicated to a man who is first and foremost a pop star and pop artist and has more in common with MJ, Madonna, Mariah, Janet, etc. Or at least those are the qualities that attracted the majority of his fans.
While i agree that Prince is a pop star, I have appreciation for him for the fact he can play an instrument and write his own songs, good songs, great songs. I don't put him anywhere near those other people and I don't own any of their music aside from a few tracks. I can readily admit to being a music snob and most of the people discussed ad mauseum in this forum do nothing for me.
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Reply #56 posted 07/17/08 8:14pm

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Stymie said:

errant said:

I'm 100% positive that someone has already made this point, but I'm not going to read through the entire thread to verify.

The reason that certain, very popular (or once popular) artists get discussed ad nauseum on here is the same reason those some artists sell (or sold) a lot of records. They have a lot of fans, they appeal to a broad base, they do a lot to keep themselves in the public eye. The reasons you see a lot of people discussing these artists at length are the same reasons you see them all over the media, tabloids, charts, etc. Success perpetuates itself.

Why would anyone think there would be more and more frequent discussion of artists like Miles Davis, Zapp, Chaka, etc. here than anywhere else in the world?

This IS a website dedicated to a man who is first and foremost a pop star and pop artist and has more in common with MJ, Madonna, Mariah, Janet, etc. Or at least those are the qualities that attracted the majority of his fans.
While i agree that Prince is a pop star, I have appreciation for him for the fact he can play an instrument and write his own songs, good songs, great songs. I don't put him anywhere near those other people and I don't own any of their music aside from a few tracks. I can readily admit to being a music snob and most of the people discussed ad mauseum in this forum do nothing for me.



shrug I'm just explaining why there are more and longer threads about those artists. The have more fans, they put out more product, they keep themselves in the public eye. Same reason you hear more about them in the mainstream media is why you hear more about them here. They're common ground, like Prince, for more people than, say, Tricky or Miles.
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Reply #57 posted 07/17/08 9:25pm

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YAY FOR US THE IGNORANT MUSIC ASSHOLES!

WE RULE!!!!

WE ARE PATHETIC AND TRUE ABOUT OUR TASTE! AND WE DON'T NAME CALL SOME ARTISTS JUST TO BE HIP!

YAY!

WE RULE!

YAY FOR US!
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[Edited 7/17/08 11:14am]



nod anybody can google some obscure musician and drop their name in a thread,at least us un-sofisticated fans really do listen to our artists
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Reply #58 posted 07/17/08 10:16pm

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lowkey said:

nod anybody can google some obscure musician and drop their name in a thread,at least us un-sofisticated fans really do listen to our artists

Really? Is there a reason then why Prince: Music & More is littered with photo threads, "What's Princes favorite *INSERT SOMETHING COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT HERE*?" threads,"CAN I PLEASSSS BES PRONCES GOORLFREIND??!1!1" and other types of bullshit threads? lol

How many times have you seen us 'snobbier' music fans post shit like "OMIGOD, LIEK WHAT COLORRRRR UNDERRRWAERR DOS THE LEAD SINGAR FROMM 'THE FOUR FLIGHTS' HAEV?!?!1 LIEK I WANNA BE HISS BOYFRIENDZ>!1!" ?

I rest my case lol
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Reply #59 posted 07/17/08 11:10pm

lowkey

FuNkeNsteiN said:

lowkey said:

nod anybody can google some obscure musician and drop their name in a thread,at least us un-sofisticated fans really do listen to our artists

Really? Is there a reason then why Prince: Music & More is littered with photo threads, "What's Princes favorite *INSERT SOMETHING COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT HERE*?" threads,"CAN I PLEASSSS BES PRONCES GOORLFREIND??!1!1" and other types of bullshit threads? lol

How many times have you seen us 'snobbier' music fans post shit like "OMIGOD, LIEK WHAT COLORRRRR UNDERRRWAERR DOS THE LEAD SINGAR FROMM 'THE FOUR FLIGHTS' HAEV?!?!1 LIEK I WANNA BE HISS BOYFRIENDZ>!1!" ?

I rest my case lol
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because unlike you 'sofisticated' fans, we like to see pics and gossip and all that fun stuff, how many times can you talk about hw great of a musician prince is, or who is the best guitar player..blah blah blah, we already have the michael/madonna/janet,ect albums, we know what they are and what they do and we dont mind admitting we like them....um who da hell are the four flights?
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