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Reply #60 posted 07/24/08 1:40pm

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PS. I find it interesting that you've posted 7 times and all those posts have been in this thread. You're not Jason Malachi are you? eek
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Haha!! No, I'm not Michael Jacks- err.....Jason Malachi. I'm one of those forum readers who doesn't post much, but this is one of those subjects where I just had to get involved. I really believe that "Jason Malachi" is Michael. It all adds up a little too perfectly. However, I LOVE how you have a good comeback to all of the facts and questions I bring to you.

I got the clip you sent me. I believe this is MJ dropping another obvious hint. While using the alias "Jason Malachi" Michael can record whatever he like without having to hear from his record label.The audio u sent doesn't really prove much. I think Michael never used it, and decided to insert it into the "Jason Malachi" song, "If u wanna get with me."

By the way, this track was obviously produced by Timbaland. But of course, Timbaland won't say that he worked with an unknown "Jason Malachi."
However, when MJ's contract with sony is fulfilled, Timbaland will come out and announce that he did indeed produce the track.

By the way, MarniFrances, you said that "Malachi's" falsetto is too thin. Give me an example of this. I think the falsetto is head on, along with the vibratto, hiccups, growling and all of MJ's other elements in his singing style.
Wanna know why it sounds so head on? Because it's Michael Jackson wink

Oh yeah. You asked something like "Why would MJ choose a young white guy to promote his music?" Keep in mind that MJ is color blind. Jason Cupeta (the guy singing and dancing on the youtube clips) is probably the best impersonator Michael could find. So he hired him to dance to his tracks and use as an avatar.

Remember when MJ hired a young Wade Robson to play him in a pepsi commercial in 1993? Wade Robson obviously isn't black. Michael focuses on TALENT, not color. So this isn't the first time he's hired a white guy to get the job done.
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Reply #61 posted 07/24/08 4:32pm

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marnifrances said:


PS. I find it interesting that you've posted 7 times and all those posts have been in this thread. You're not Jason Malachi are you? eek
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Haha!! No, I'm not Michael Jacks- err.....Jason Malachi. I'm one of those forum readers who doesn't post much, but this is one of those subjects where I just had to get involved. I really believe that "Jason Malachi" is Michael. It all adds up a little too perfectly. However, I LOVE how you have a good comeback to all of the facts and questions I bring to you.

I got the clip you sent me. I believe this is MJ dropping another obvious hint. While using the alias "Jason Malachi" Michael can record whatever he like without having to hear from his record label.The audio u sent doesn't really prove much. I think Michael never used it, and decided to insert it into the "Jason Malachi" song, "If u wanna get with me."

By the way, this track was obviously produced by Timbaland. But of course, Timbaland won't say that he worked with an unknown "Jason Malachi."
However, when MJ's contract with sony is fulfilled, Timbaland will come out and announce that he did indeed produce the track.

By the way, MarniFrances, you said that "Malachi's" falsetto is too thin. Give me an example of this. I think the falsetto is head on, along with the vibratto, hiccups, growling and all of MJ's other elements in his singing style.
Wanna know why it sounds so head on? Because it's Michael Jackson wink

Oh yeah. You asked something like "Why would MJ choose a young white guy to promote his music?" Keep in mind that MJ is color blind. Jason Cupeta (the guy singing and dancing on the youtube clips) is probably the best impersonator Michael could find. So he hired him to dance to his tracks and use as an avatar.

Remember when MJ hired a young Wade Robson to play him in a pepsi commercial in 1993? Wade Robson obviously isn't black. Michael focuses on TALENT, not color. So this isn't the first time he's hired a white guy to get the job done.



That clip I sent you was actually leaked from an acetate of what was meant to be the Bad Special Edition Disc 2. It WAS intended for use, but Sony nixed the disc 2 and the acetates were sold on ebay. It was recorded under the name Michael Jackson and leaked as such. It's from the 80's and was never claimed to be any other person but Michael recording.

If Jason Malachi's albums and songs are home mixed, it wouldn't be illegal to mix in another person's work- this particular file has been shared on MJ forums for years and could have easily been acquired. If Jason was in fact under a record label, the label wouldn't allow it without permission, but since he's not, there's no record company that's liable.

People have been doing this for ages- mixing stuff with MJ elements and outtakes and calling it "Michael jackson's new song" and posting it to youtube. Unfortunately MJ fans are pretty intelligent and know what's real and what's not. So you can't argue with anything to do with "copyright". It's been going on for ages.

I doubt that was produced by Timbaland. Again, with home mixing, anyone can mix in sounds from previous recordings if they are clever enough.

I simply disagree with the falsetto and vibrato and all of that. You must be hearing something different because it's just not nearly as good as Michael. As I have said before, Michael's demos- listen to anything from the Bad and Dangerous sessions or even the later demos from the Ultimate Collection- and you will recognise that Mj's demos are professional and almost sound complete.

As for colour blindness I agree. But talent? Come on- there's better impersonators out there who have been singing like and actually sound like Michael for ages and he's used those people (in videos, at performances etc and as body doubles) and knows who they are. Why wouldn't he use one of those people?
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Reply #62 posted 07/24/08 4:51pm

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As for colour blindness I agree. But talent? Come on- there's better impersonators out there who have been singing like and actually sound like Michael for ages and he's used those people (in videos, at performances etc and as body doubles) and knows who they are. Why wouldn't he use one of those people?


True, but it would be more obvious if Michael picked E!Casonva or Edward Moss to serve this purpose. Jason Cupeta looks like the white guy next door. It's taking everyone by surprise. It's the least obvious and probably the most wise decision.

As far as the demos go, have you heard demos for songs like "Workin day and nite" "Billie Jean" "WBSS" "Pretty Young Thing", etc? The music sounds really stripped on those songs, compared to the released versions. As far as Malachi goes, the instrumentation on his songs sound like it was all overproduced on a computer or such. "Let me let go" sounds similar to "2000 Watts" or "Privacy" in terms of the digitalized technology. Michael doesn't want the music to sound 100% professional. These are demos, and were designed to stir a buzz on the internet.

As far as the voice goes, I believe it's him. With the exception of "Hold my hand" and "WBSS 2008," we haven't heard MJ sing a note since 2001. I remember when "No friend of mine" was leaked, but I have no clue when that song was recorded. Michael's voice is always evolving. Sometimes he still sounds like "Thriller" MJ, but other times, he sounds older.

And think about this; if somebody could sound like MJ THAT MUCH, the media would eat this up. He'd be an overnight celebrity (for about a month or so, at least) MTV would hop on this!!! Everyone would be thrilled. And yet, this "Malachi" has never even been on TV. disbelief

And to top it all off, there isn't even a wikipedia article. If you're a celebrity, not having a wikipedia article is like not having your own shadow.
I betcha Neyo, Akon, and all others working on the new album know exactly what's going on, and it's part of the reason why they were sworn to secrecy.
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Reply #63 posted 07/27/08 2:56am

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As far as the demos go, have you heard demos for songs like "Workin day and nite" "Billie Jean" "WBSS" "Pretty Young Thing", etc? The music sounds really stripped on those songs, compared to the released versions. As far as Malachi goes, the instrumentation on his songs sound like it was all overproduced on a computer or such. "Let me let go" sounds similar to "2000 Watts" or "Privacy" in terms of the digitalized technology. Michael doesn't want the music to sound 100% professional. These are demos, and were designed to stir a buzz on the internet.

The original BJ demo sounds really stripped, the later Billie Jean demo is almost identical to the song that went on Thriller. The WBSS demo is almost a complete song as well. You're talking old demos anyway- we haven't heard "raggedy" MJ demos from the Bad era onwards, except for a couple of songs that do sound really incomplete like "In The Back" and "Beautiful Girl" from the Ultimate Collection.

And I don't agree any of Malachi's actual music sounds like Michael's. It sounds home mixed to me.

As far as the voice goes, I believe it's him. With the exception of "Hold my hand" and "WBSS 2008," we haven't heard MJ sing a note since 2001. I remember when "No friend of mine" was leaked, but I have no clue when that song was recorded. Michael's voice is always evolving. Sometimes he still sounds like "Thriller" MJ, but other times, he sounds older.

Yes we have. A lot of songs from the Ultimate Collection are from 2003- 2004, and the same goes for "One More Chance". As far as complete songs go, "We've Had Enough" is an example of something from 2004.

And think about this; if somebody could sound like MJ THAT MUCH, the media would eat this up. He'd be an overnight celebrity (for about a month or so, at least) MTV would hop on this!!! Everyone would be thrilled. And yet, this "Malachi" has never even been on TV. disbelief


Because he doesn't sound that much like MJ. lol You're saying it should be creating a stir, but it's not. One radio station kept claiming "Let Me Let Go" was MJ until TMZ discovered it wasn't MJ. Oh and as for not being on TV- just like he doesn't have a record label, it could also mean he doesn't have an agent or manager. This is all very easily explained.

And to top it all off, there isn't even a wikipedia article. If you're a celebrity, not having a wikipedia article is like not having your own shadow.
I betcha Neyo, Akon, and all others working on the new album know exactly what's going on, and it's part of the reason why they were sworn to secrecy.


That's because there has been one real news article about Jason Malachi. You have to be noteable to be on wikipedia. One or even a few news articles may not make you very noteable. Malachi isn't exactly a celebrity; MJ fans are the ones who know who he is. I know plenty of good aussie artists who should have a Wiki article and don't.

Also, it's fans who create the pages. No one involved with MJ is helping with the Wiki article on any of his albums or anything. So I am not quite sure what you're trying to say. Not having a wiki article means nothing. There is some info out there on Malachi and enough to create a page, yet no one has really cared to yet.
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Reply #64 posted 07/30/08 2:25pm

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If Jason Malachi doesn't sound a lot or just like MJ, then why the fuck does everyone keep saying he sounds a lot or just like MJ?

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Reply #65 posted 07/30/08 8:11pm

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If Jason Malachi doesn't sound a lot or just like MJ, then why the fuck does everyone keep saying he sounds a lot or just like MJ?

confused


He sounds IDENTICAL to Michael Jackson.
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Reply #66 posted 07/30/08 10:58pm

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If Jason Malachi doesn't sound a lot or just like MJ, then why the fuck does everyone keep saying he sounds a lot or just like MJ?

confused


We've already proved in this thread with several videos that there's songs that don't sound like Michael at all. And no, he doesn't sound identical to Michael. I guess it's a matter of opinion, but I personally think sometimes he does sound like Michael (but not identical- I can still tell the difference) and other times he doesn't sound a thing like Michael.
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Reply #67 posted 07/30/08 11:45pm

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I wrote Jason on myspace, asking whats new for him. And he wrote back saying that he may be working with Michael Jackson in the near future, but it's up in the air at the moment.

I think the plan is unfolding smile
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Reply #68 posted 08/14/08 6:26pm

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Go to www.myspace.com/unbreakablemj2008.

Click on the track that says "Thank You." It's Michael Jackson saying "Thank you for coming to my myspace page" and some of the songs on the list are the Malachi songs.

I think this Malachi mystery is solved, ladies and gents.
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Reply #69 posted 08/14/08 10:09pm

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Go to www.myspace.com/unbreakablemj2008.

Click on the track that says "Thank You." It's Michael Jackson saying "Thank you for coming to my myspace page" and some of the songs on the list are the Malachi songs.

I think this Malachi mystery is solved, ladies and gents.


How is that solved? lol Looks like a misinformed fan has created that page to me, and that Thank you clip is fake imo. There have been loads of similar myspace pages in recent times that have "new Michael Jackson" songs on them and they are all Malachi. It's just confused fans. So many impersonators put their voices on "crackly phone call" sounding crap to make it sound like MJ- this sorta shit isn't new. If it was real, it would be a hell of a lot clearer than that, trust me.

Michael's official myspace is http://www.myspace.com/michaeljackson .
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Reply #70 posted 08/14/08 10:33pm

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Very interesting. I don't think anyone could impersonate MJ's speaking voice THAT well. That sounds just like him. But you are right.It sounded rather "crackly." But the voice did sound like Michael, breathing and all.
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Reply #71 posted 08/14/08 11:07pm

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Ajizzle said:

Very interesting. I don't think anyone could impersonate MJ's speaking voice THAT well. That sounds just like him. But you are right.It sounded rather "crackly." But the voice did sound like Michael, breathing and all.


the voice was three seconds dude, chamon
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Reply #72 posted 08/15/08 12:11am

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hmmm
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Reply #73 posted 08/15/08 5:48am

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Ajizzle said:

Very interesting. I don't think anyone could impersonate MJ's speaking voice THAT well. That sounds just like him. But you are right.It sounded rather "crackly." But the voice did sound like Michael, breathing and all.


the voice was three seconds dude, chamon


I rest my case. lol
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Reply #74 posted 08/15/08 9:26am

Ajizzle

I wouldn't rest anything. lol. I've proved lots of facts in this thread that "Jason Malachi" is really the King of Pop. How can someone happen to talk AND sing JUST LIKE Michael? Impossible.
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Reply #75 posted 08/16/08 2:17am

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I wouldn't rest anything. lol. I've proved lots of facts in this thread that "Jason Malachi" is really the King of Pop. How can someone happen to talk AND sing JUST LIKE Michael? Impossible.


I beg to differ. You haven't proven anything. Jason Malachi is a different person to Michael Jackson.
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Reply #76 posted 08/16/08 10:42am

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Ajizzle said:

I wouldn't rest anything. lol. I've proved lots of facts in this thread that "Jason Malachi" is really the King of Pop. How can someone happen to talk AND sing JUST LIKE Michael? Impossible.


So,you truly believe that Jason Malachi is really Michael Jackson?
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Reply #77 posted 08/16/08 10:50pm

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So,you truly believe that Jason Malachi is really Michael Jackson?


Oh yes. The evidence is all over the place smile
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Reply #78 posted 08/17/08 3:52am

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SoulAlive said:



So,you truly believe that Jason Malachi is really Michael Jackson?


Oh yes. The evidence is all over the place smile


There's also a lot of evidence against that too. Main point being that I, and many others I know, have spoken to him over private message and email, and on MJ forums. Plus he's been trying to prove he's not MJ for a while now.


PS I am not being hostile or anything- just saying what i see.
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Reply #79 posted 08/17/08 6:22am

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Michael Jackson is the most polite MF in the music business. He's like Paula Abdul. You could fart on a record and he'd give you a compliment.

falloff True.
Mike´s got this rare talent to s*** on other people by paying them compliments.
I love what he said about Eminem when he made that ridiculous video making fun of Mike.

Jackson: I've never met mr. Eminem. And to have him -- I've always admired him and to have him do something like that, was pretty painful, as an artist to another artist. And it is sad. Because, well i think what stevie wonder said is true. I don't want to say much more than that. But he should be ashamed of himself what he's doing. Stevie said he's bull --[ Bleep]
Jackson: I'm not saying it. Stevie said it. And Stevie is, he's amazing, one of the sweetest men in the world, you know.
Rivera: When stevie said that, did you feel a sense of reassurance of brotherly love there?
Jackson: Yes, i love stevie wonder. To me he's a musical prophet. I'll always love him. But a lot of people respect stevie and he's a very strong entity in this media and this business. When he speaks, people listen. And it was wrong of eminem to do what he did. I've been an artist most of my life, doing what i do. And I've never attacked another fellow artist. Great artists don't do that. You don't have to do that.

He starts with a compliment, but that highlighted part tells you right away what he really thinks of him and his "art". And only Mike would ever call him Mr. Eminem. lol
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #80 posted 08/17/08 1:11pm

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marnifrances said:


There's also a lot of evidence against that too. Main point being that I, and many others I know, have spoken to him over private message and email, and on MJ forums. Plus he's been trying to prove he's not MJ for a while now.


PS I am not being hostile or anything- just saying what i see.


That's fine. I hold no hostility or anger towards you or anyone else. I actually think this is a great debate. You'd make a good lawyer, MarniFrances smile

On a side note, I suggest that you check out the Jason Malachi group on Facebook. The people there are really experts.
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Reply #81 posted 08/17/08 1:43pm

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Ajizzle said:

Go to www.myspace.com/unbreakablemj2008.

Click on the track that says "Thank You." It's Michael Jackson saying "Thank you for coming to my myspace page" and some of the songs on the list are the Malachi songs.

I think this Malachi mystery is solved, ladies and gents.


How is that solved? lol Looks like a misinformed fan has created that page to me, and that Thank you clip is fake imo. There have been loads of similar myspace pages in recent times that have "new Michael Jackson" songs on them and they are all Malachi. It's just confused fans. So many impersonators put their voices on "crackly phone call" sounding crap to make it sound like MJ- this sorta shit isn't new. If it was real, it would be a hell of a lot clearer than that, trust me.

Michael's official myspace is http://www.myspace.com/michaeljackson .

Totally forgot about that site. Is it any good?
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #82 posted 08/17/08 5:53pm

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Ajizzle said:

marnifrances said:


There's also a lot of evidence against that too. Main point being that I, and many others I know, have spoken to him over private message and email, and on MJ forums. Plus he's been trying to prove he's not MJ for a while now.


PS I am not being hostile or anything- just saying what i see.


That's fine. I hold no hostility or anger towards you or anyone else. I actually think this is a great debate. You'd make a good lawyer, MarniFrances smile

On a side note, I suggest that you check out the Jason Malachi group on Facebook. The people there are really experts.


I have checked it out- again they are fans, who think there is a conspiracy theory of some sort lol. I just don't believe it. But if the person I was speaking to was in fact Michael Jackson, I will pee my pants. lol
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Reply #83 posted 08/22/08 12:02am

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http://www.youtube.com/wa...Jui31IwYvU

Thanks to a fan on Maximum Jackson for this- it's Jason Malachi's radio interview.
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Reply #84 posted 08/22/08 1:28pm

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lol I don't buy it. Sorry. Anybody could fake a radio interview. This guy hired some friends of his to call in to the studio and sing his praises. Not only that, but I've never once heard of this radio station. This is a hoax. It even sounds "home mixed" to me. confused
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Reply #85 posted 08/22/08 8:15pm

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lol I don't buy it. Sorry. Anybody could fake a radio interview. This guy hired some friends of his to call in to the studio and sing his praises. Not only that, but I've never once heard of this radio station. This is a hoax. It even sounds "home mixed" to me. confused


But he has spoken on that "acapella" YouTube video, and it's the same voice. lol And the singing voice is exactly the same. confused
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Reply #86 posted 08/22/08 9:56pm

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Oh yeah. There's no denying that this is the same guy who spoke in the "live" acapella video. However, The singing part is one of the elements that gave things away. He's clearly imitating Michael's vocals on that song. He's apparently listened to it and studied it well, and did a pretty damn good impersonation of Michael's vocals on the song. It sounded somewhat like MJ, but you can tell it was an imitation. It wasn't as good as it was on the song, nor was it a spot on impersonation (although it was kinda close. I'll admit that much.)

Besides, they could have just ran a pre-recorded snippet of an MJ acapella and passed it off as Malachi singing "Live."

There are Malachi songs with Michael's voice clearly speaking at the beginning of them. Likewise, there's that video where Jason sings a little bit of the falsetto from "Butterflies" just to "clear up all the doubt." He obviously ran an MJ acapella on that clip, and most likely, he did the same thing here on this "radio" interview.
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Reply #87 posted 08/22/08 11:16pm

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I guess we will have to agree to disagree coz this will just go around in circles.

I already said my piece about the talking at the beginning of the JM songs- they are taken from OLD Mj songs that have already been leaked. Anyone can take a snippet of an MJ song or voice clip and attach it on to their own songs. If it was NEW clips of Mj talking, I might think twice.

I just don't think JM sounds THAT much like MJ on the track either- it's certainly not identical.
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Reply #88 posted 08/24/08 9:00am

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Ajizzle said:

Very interesting. I don't think anyone could impersonate MJ's speaking voice THAT well. That sounds just like him. But you are right.It sounded rather "crackly." But the voice did sound like Michael, breathing and all.


Don't be too sure

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Ajizzle said:

Very interesting. I don't think anyone could impersonate MJ's speaking voice THAT well. That sounds just like him. But you are right.It sounded rather "crackly." But the voice did sound like Michael, breathing and all.


Don't be too sure




LMAO. ok now some of THAT is identical to Michael's speaking voice. nod
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