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PrintableWow, I'm surprised at all the love on for this song.
Absolutely. This is a great tune and big ups to Blondie (the band) for making it and Debbie Harry for the vocals. Blondie is one of the best bands of that era. Bar none.  
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Alasseon said: Wow, I'm surprised at all the love on for this song.
Give it time... | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: Alasseon said: Wow, I'm surprised at all the love on for this song.
Give it time... dance gonna come in here and say "its shit(e) " or some other bullshit Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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She raps, but I wouldn't call it hip hop. I would call it hip. 
Extremely interesting & cool song that was taking elements of everything that was going on at that time, including hip hop. As a style of music, I think it's actually more disco, though they were more of a new wave/punk band. My Legacy
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She was the first white rapper. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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All things considered I would define this as the first time Rap got this much exposure. It was 1981 and this was a #1 song in several countries. It's definitely a funk track with a rap outro.
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This just proves my suspicion: that the song is beyond categorizing because it is, in fact, not from this earthly sphere. Its is outta this world. | |
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shorttrini said: In my opinion, it was one of the first recordings that incorporated that style into a another style of music. To little Army, why wouldn't you consider it hip hop? Is it cause it was coming to a white artist? Or is it cause it does not sound like the so-called dumb-downed version of hip-hop that is played today.
It's for none of the stereotypically defensive reasons you named. Based on what you apparently think, it's a hip-hop song merely because someone attempts to rap on it. | |
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LittleAmy said: shorttrini said: In my opinion, it was one of the first recordings that incorporated that style into a another style of music. To little Army, why wouldn't you consider it hip hop? Is it cause it was coming to a white artist? Or is it cause it does not sound like the so-called dumb-downed version of hip-hop that is played today.
It's for none of the stereotypically defensive reasons you named. Based on what you apparently think, it's a hip-hop song merely because someone attempts to rap on it. Rather than just pointing out why others are wrong why not say why you feel the way you do? | |
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In 1981, three different artists used rap verses in hit dance songs (forgive me if "Rapture" was issued in '80) that featured female artists rapping:
Here's Blondie's rap in "Rapture": Fab Five Freddie told me everybody's high DJ's spinnin' are savin' my mind Flash is fast, Flash is cool Francois sez fas, Flashe' no do And you don't stop, sure shot Go out to the parking lot And you get in your car and you drive real far And you drive all night and then you see a light And it comes right down and lands on the ground And out comes a man from Mars And you try to run but he's got a gun And he shoots you dead and he eats your head And then you're in the man from Mars You go out at night, eatin' cars You eat Cadillacs, Lincolns too Mercuries and Subarus And you don't stop, you keep on eatin' cars Then, when there's no more cars You go out at night and eat up bars where the people meet Face to face, dance cheek to cheek One to one, man to man Dance toe to toe Don't move too slow, 'cause the man from Mars Is through with cars, he's eatin' bars Yeah, wall to wall, door to door, hall to hall He's gonna eat 'em all Rapture, be pure Take a tour, through the sewer Don't strain your brain, paint a train You'll be singin' in the rain I said don't stop, do punk rock Well now you see what you wanna be Just have your party on TV 'Cause the man from Mars won't eat up bars when the TV's on And now he's gone back up to space Where he won't have a hassle with the human race And you hip-hop, and you don't stop Just blast off, sure shot 'Cause the man from Mars stopped eatin' cars and eatin' bars And now he only eats guitars, get up! Now here's Teena Marie's "Square Biz": Baby, what's happening Entre vous Lady Tee I've heard a boatload of others ladies' raps But they ain't got nothin' on me I'm less than five foot one, a hundred pounds of fun I like sophisticated funk I live on Dom Perignon, caviar, filet mignon And you can best believe that's bunk Here's what I'm talking, baby Square Biz, Square Biz I've been called Casper, Shorty, Lil' Bit And some they call me Vanilla Child But you know that don't mean my world to me 'Cause baby, names can't cramp my style [I love chick-icken] And Buff's collard greens A little hot water corn bread I love you too Cat daddy But don't you let that go to your head That's what I'm talking, baby Square Biz, Square Biz You know I love spirituals and rock Sarah Vaughn, Johann Sebastian Bach Shakespeare, Maya Angelou And Nikki Giovanni just to name a few Well, I'm wild and peaceful Lady Tee I got to keep my irons in the fire, you see I got the point, the scam, the low, the deal What you feel, say what Now here's Mary Wells' raps on "Gigolo": He's no fool 'cause he went to school He's a gigolo man, real cool Walks like a cat with a grace and stride Swingin' his arms from side to side (repeat 2X) My guy rides around in a limousine car At the bar in the back that serves caviar, say what (Gigolo) My guy likes to dance, how he really can go He's the winner of the dance they called the Gigolo, say what (Gigolo) ---- Now which rap is better? 
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Timmy84 said: In 1981, three different artists used rap verses in hit dance songs (forgive me if "Rapture" was issued in '80) that featured female artists rapping:
Here's Blondie's rap in "Rapture": Fab Five Freddie told me everybody's high DJ's spinnin' are savin' my mind Flash is fast, Flash is cool Francois sez fas, Flashe' no do And you don't stop, sure shot Go out to the parking lot And you get in your car and you drive real far And you drive all night and then you see a light And it comes right down and lands on the ground And out comes a man from Mars And you try to run but he's got a gun And he shoots you dead and he eats your head And then you're in the man from Mars You go out at night, eatin' cars You eat Cadillacs, Lincolns too Mercuries and Subarus And you don't stop, you keep on eatin' cars Then, when there's no more cars You go out at night and eat up bars where the people meet Face to face, dance cheek to cheek One to one, man to man Dance toe to toe Don't move too slow, 'cause the man from Mars Is through with cars, he's eatin' bars Yeah, wall to wall, door to door, hall to hall He's gonna eat 'em all Rapture, be pure Take a tour, through the sewer Don't strain your brain, paint a train You'll be singin' in the rain I said don't stop, do punk rock Well now you see what you wanna be Just have your party on TV 'Cause the man from Mars won't eat up bars when the TV's on And now he's gone back up to space Where he won't have a hassle with the human race And you hip-hop, and you don't stop Just blast off, sure shot 'Cause the man from Mars stopped eatin' cars and eatin' bars And now he only eats guitars, get up! Now here's Teena Marie's "Square Biz": Baby, what's happening Entre vous Lady Tee I've heard a boatload of others ladies' raps But they ain't got nothin' on me I'm less than five foot one, a hundred pounds of fun I like sophisticated funk I live on Dom Perignon, caviar, filet mignon And you can best believe that's bunk Here's what I'm talking, baby Square Biz, Square Biz I've been called Casper, Shorty, Lil' Bit And some they call me Vanilla Child But you know that don't mean my world to me 'Cause baby, names can't cramp my style [I love chick-icken] And Buff's collard greens A little hot water corn bread I love you too Cat daddy But don't you let that go to your head That's what I'm talking, baby Square Biz, Square Biz You know I love spirituals and rock Sarah Vaughn, Johann Sebastian Bach Shakespeare, Maya Angelou And Nikki Giovanni just to name a few Well, I'm wild and peaceful Lady Tee I got to keep my irons in the fire, you see I got the point, the scam, the low, the deal What you feel, say what Now here's Mary Wells' raps on "Gigolo": He's no fool 'cause he went to school He's a gigolo man, real cool Walks like a cat with a grace and stride Swingin' his arms from side to side (repeat 2X) My guy rides around in a limousine car At the bar in the back that serves caviar, say what (Gigolo) My guy likes to dance, how he really can go He's the winner of the dance they called the Gigolo, say what (Gigolo) ---- Now which rap is better?
I say Lady Tee's. [Edited 6/27/08 15:24pm] Oh no u didn't!  Teena Marie is the Queen. Can't nobody mess with her.
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Alasseon said: Timmy84 said: In 1981, three different artists used rap verses in hit dance songs (forgive me if "Rapture" was issued in '80) that featured female artists rapping:
Here's Blondie's rap in "Rapture": Fab Five Freddie told me everybody's high DJ's spinnin' are savin' my mind Flash is fast, Flash is cool Francois sez fas, Flashe' no do And you don't stop, sure shot Go out to the parking lot And you get in your car and you drive real far And you drive all night and then you see a light And it comes right down and lands on the ground And out comes a man from Mars And you try to run but he's got a gun And he shoots you dead and he eats your head And then you're in the man from Mars You go out at night, eatin' cars You eat Cadillacs, Lincolns too Mercuries and Subarus And you don't stop, you keep on eatin' cars Then, when there's no more cars You go out at night and eat up bars where the people meet Face to face, dance cheek to cheek One to one, man to man Dance toe to toe Don't move too slow, 'cause the man from Mars Is through with cars, he's eatin' bars Yeah, wall to wall, door to door, hall to hall He's gonna eat 'em all Rapture, be pure Take a tour, through the sewer Don't strain your brain, paint a train You'll be singin' in the rain I said don't stop, do punk rock Well now you see what you wanna be Just have your party on TV 'Cause the man from Mars won't eat up bars when the TV's on And now he's gone back up to space Where he won't have a hassle with the human race And you hip-hop, and you don't stop Just blast off, sure shot 'Cause the man from Mars stopped eatin' cars and eatin' bars And now he only eats guitars, get up! Now here's Teena Marie's "Square Biz": Baby, what's happening Entre vous Lady Tee I've heard a boatload of others ladies' raps But they ain't got nothin' on me I'm less than five foot one, a hundred pounds of fun I like sophisticated funk I live on Dom Perignon, caviar, filet mignon And you can best believe that's bunk Here's what I'm talking, baby Square Biz, Square Biz I've been called Casper, Shorty, Lil' Bit And some they call me Vanilla Child But you know that don't mean my world to me 'Cause baby, names can't cramp my style [I love chick-icken] And Buff's collard greens A little hot water corn bread I love you too Cat daddy But don't you let that go to your head That's what I'm talking, baby Square Biz, Square Biz You know I love spirituals and rock Sarah Vaughn, Johann Sebastian Bach Shakespeare, Maya Angelou And Nikki Giovanni just to name a few Well, I'm wild and peaceful Lady Tee I got to keep my irons in the fire, you see I got the point, the scam, the low, the deal What you feel, say what Now here's Mary Wells' raps on "Gigolo": He's no fool 'cause he went to school He's a gigolo man, real cool Walks like a cat with a grace and stride Swingin' his arms from side to side (repeat 2X) My guy rides around in a limousine car At the bar in the back that serves caviar, say what (Gigolo) My guy likes to dance, how he really can go He's the winner of the dance they called the Gigolo, say what (Gigolo) ---- Now which rap is better?
I say Lady Tee's. [Edited 6/27/08 15:24pm] Oh no u didn't! Teena Marie is the Queen. Can't nobody mess with her. I can dig it. | |
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Why are we even talking about Screama Marie (thanks, tA  ) in this thread?  That rap is awful, but I like the song. I don't need to know how she got her street cred by eating chicken, greens and corn bread. Shit, I'm pasty pale and I eat that grub. That just means you got working taste buds. And why's she gotta lie about her weight in a song? 100 pounds my ass. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: Why are we even talking about Screama Marie (thanks, tA
) in this thread? That rap is awful, but I like the song. I don't need to know how she got her street cred by eating chicken, greens and corn bread. Shit, I'm pasty pale and I eat that grub. That just means you got working taste buds. And why's she gotta lie about her weight in a song? 100 pounds my ass. Just making a point. But I know you loath her tho. | |
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Timmy84 said: RipHer2Shreds said: Why are we even talking about Screama Marie (thanks, tA
) in this thread? That rap is awful, but I like the song. I don't need to know how she got her street cred by eating chicken, greens and corn bread. Shit, I'm pasty pale and I eat that grub. That just means you got working taste buds. And why's she gotta lie about her weight in a song? 100 pounds my ass. Just making a point. But I know you loath her tho. Not at all. I like her and have a few of her albums. Midnight Magnet is one of the funkiest things I've ever heard. Some things about her just drive me batty (that vibratto is always out of control). I just think she tries too hard sometimes; this rap is a prime example of that. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: Timmy84 said: Just making a point. But I know you loath her tho. Not at all. I like her and have a few of her albums. Midnight Magnet is one of the funkiest things I've ever heard. Some things about her just drive me batty (that vibratto is always out of control). I just think she tries too hard sometimes; this rap is a prime example of that. Oh OK, gotcha.  | |
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LittleAmy said: No, "Rapture" is not a hip-hop record. And just because KRS-One sampled it doesn't make it a hip-hop record (if that's the case, there have been country songs and soap opera themes that have been sampled).
The song got the novelty of being called the first hip-hop hit to land in the Billboard Hot 100 top 10, IMO, because of the relative ignorance of the people making the designation in the first place. I can't believe I'm actually doing this but . . . Co-Sign I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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LittleAmy said: shorttrini said: In my opinion, it was one of the first recordings that incorporated that style into a another style of music. To little Army, why wouldn't you consider it hip hop? Is it cause it was coming to a white artist? Or is it cause it does not sound like the so-called dumb-downed version of hip-hop that is played today.
It's for none of the stereotypically defensive reasons you named. Based on what you apparently think, it's a hip-hop song merely because someone attempts to rap on it. It's a song that is done in the style of what is now considered "Hip Hop". Rapture, had a sound that was rarely heard coming from a "white artist" and is what made it unique for it's time. Also, FYI, for every stereotype, this is an ounce of truth behind it. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" |
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Timmy84 said: In 1981, three different artists used rap verses in hit dance songs (forgive me if "Rapture" was issued in '80) that featured female artists rapping:
"Rapture" is from 1980. I don't really care if it's the first song by a white/female/any-label-you-want artist to expose rap to a wider audience. I just think it is a transcendent and resplendent example of Blondie's stylistically diverse and daring canon. It's not my favorite Blondie song (that goes to "War Child", which many people hate), but it may be their best song. The lazy, curling groove serves as an undercurrent for Debbie's ever-so-cool and flirtatiously bending falsetto. Add in some timely chimes, chicken scratching guitar and an impromptu rap, and it makes for a magnum opus. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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paisleypark4 said: RipHer2Shreds said: Give it time... dance gonna come in here and say "its shit(e) " or some other bullshit  | |
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In my opinion '' The Magnificent Seven'' by The Clash is to be considered the first attempt by a mainstream band, or call it a white band to rap.
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The first released rap single (BEFORE Sugar Hill):
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Timmy84 said: In 1981, three different artists used rap verses in hit dance songs (forgive me if "Rapture" was issued in '80) that featured female artists rapping:
Here's Blondie's rap in "Rapture": Fab Five Freddie told me everybody's high DJ's spinnin' are savin' my mind Flash is fast, Flash is cool Francois sez fas, Flashe' no do And you don't stop, sure shot Go out to the parking lot And you get in your car and you drive real far And you drive all night and then you see a light And it comes right down and lands on the ground And out comes a man from Mars And you try to run but he's got a gun And he shoots you dead and he eats your head And then you're in the man from Mars You go out at night, eatin' cars You eat Cadillacs, Lincolns too Mercuries and Subarus And you don't stop, you keep on eatin' cars Then, when there's no more cars You go out at night and eat up bars where the people meet Face to face, dance cheek to cheek One to one, man to man Dance toe to toe Don't move too slow, 'cause the man from Mars Is through with cars, he's eatin' bars Yeah, wall to wall, door to door, hall to hall He's gonna eat 'em all Rapture, be pure Take a tour, through the sewer Don't strain your brain, paint a train You'll be singin' in the rain I said don't stop, do punk rock Well now you see what you wanna be Just have your party on TV 'Cause the man from Mars won't eat up bars when the TV's on And now he's gone back up to space Where he won't have a hassle with the human race And you hip-hop, and you don't stop Just blast off, sure shot 'Cause the man from Mars stopped eatin' cars and eatin' bars And now he only eats guitars, get up! Now here's Teena Marie's "Square Biz": Baby, what's happening Entre vous Lady Tee I've heard a boatload of others ladies' raps But they ain't got nothin' on me I'm less than five foot one, a hundred pounds of fun I like sophisticated funk I live on Dom Perignon, caviar, filet mignon And you can best believe that's bunk Here's what I'm talking, baby Square Biz, Square Biz I've been called Casper, Shorty, Lil' Bit And some they call me Vanilla Child But you know that don't mean my world to me 'Cause baby, names can't cramp my style [I love chick-icken] And Buff's collard greens A little hot water corn bread I love you too Cat daddy But don't you let that go to your head That's what I'm talking, baby Square Biz, Square Biz You know I love spirituals and rock Sarah Vaughn, Johann Sebastian Bach Shakespeare, Maya Angelou And Nikki Giovanni just to name a few Well, I'm wild and peaceful Lady Tee I got to keep my irons in the fire, you see I got the point, the scam, the low, the deal What you feel, say what Now here's Mary Wells' raps on "Gigolo": He's no fool 'cause he went to school He's a gigolo man, real cool Walks like a cat with a grace and stride Swingin' his arms from side to side (repeat 2X) My guy rides around in a limousine car At the bar in the back that serves caviar, say what (Gigolo) My guy likes to dance, how he really can go He's the winner of the dance they called the Gigolo, say what (Gigolo) ---- Now which rap is better?
I say Lady Tee's. [Edited 6/27/08 15:24pm] I'ma check out some of these Mary Wells tunes you speak of. You're obviously a big fan. I'll admit i only know of my guy. No party should be without Lady Tee's square biz. As far as blondie's rapture goes it's kind of hard to answer but it surely has historical connotations connected to the origin of it. I like this tune by the way. Don't laugh at my funk
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Timmy84 said: The first released rap single (BEFORE Sugar Hill):
Now you talkin timmy. I remember this very well in middle school and sugar hill was born months later. This is kinda like in 1986 Run Dmc's raising hell got credit for being the first platinum rap album when Whodini's Back in Black actually went platinum first being released a couple of months earlier but Raising Hell surpassed it Back in Black in total sales later. Don't laugh at my funk
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phunkdaddy said: I'ma check out some of these Mary Wells tunes you speak of. You're obviously
a big fan. I'll admit i only know of my guy. Phunk, my brother, once you hear that soothing voice of hers on those Motown records, you'll be HOOKED, trust me, she's the bomb. | |
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phunkdaddy said: Timmy84 said: The first released rap single (BEFORE Sugar Hill):
Now you talkin timmy. I remember this very well in middle school and sugar hill was born months later. This is kinda like in 1986 Run Dmc's raising hell got credit for being the first platinum rap album when Whodini's Back in Black actually went platinum first being released a couple of months earlier but Raising Hell surpassed it Back in Black in total sales later. Yep. It's fascinating what gets credit nowadays. Honestly because a lot of rap purists don't know SHIT about the Fatback Band. Funk bands had much to do with hip-hop's emergence as the emcees themselves and no it's not samples of James Brown's material either. And yeah Whodini went gold/platinum before Run-DMC though Run-DMC did hit MTV and Rolling Stone before any other rapper tho and "Rapper's Delight" sold like a lot of millions of copies.  | |
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Q: Is Blondie's "Rapture" Considered Hip-Hop?
A: No. But it's consider a 80's pop-rock classic that has rap vocals on it. | |
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