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Thread started 06/27/08 6:03am

RipHer2Shreds

Is Blondie's "Rapture" Considered Hip-Hop?

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Reply #1 posted 06/27/08 6:04am

HamsterHuey

Yes by alotta white folks, as that was the first time they heard anyone rap, no according to alotta old-skool rappers.

I think it is, though. She was one of the forst mainstream artists picking up on it, gotta give her props for that. So to me, that's hiphop.

Even though she raps about car eating aliens...
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Reply #2 posted 06/27/08 6:07am

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It's absolutely brilliant, whatever you want to call it. One of the best 100 songs of the rock and roll era, if you ask me.
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Reply #3 posted 06/27/08 6:12am

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Moonbeam said:

It's absolutely brilliant, whatever you want to call it. One of the best 100 songs of the rock and roll era, if you ask me.

If ever I were able to narrow down my 80s picks to a top 10, it's there. biggrin
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Reply #4 posted 06/27/08 6:21am

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RipHer2Shreds said:

Moonbeam said:

It's absolutely brilliant, whatever you want to call it. One of the best 100 songs of the rock and roll era, if you ask me.

If ever I were able to narrow down my 80s picks to a top 10, it's there. biggrin


It's such a perfect slice of music. It defines how broad of a palette Blondie had. They were so expertly able to take on different genres and add their own flavor to them, ending up with massive hits. I can't think of a more eclectic group of 4 US Number 1's than "Heart of Glass", "Call Me", "Rapture" and "The Tide Is High". Throw in "Sunday Girl" and "Atomic" (UK Number 1's), and the list is even more impressive!
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Reply #5 posted 06/27/08 6:27am

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Moonbeam said:

It's such a perfect slice of music. It defines how broad of a palette Blondie had. They were so expertly able to take on different genres and add their own flavor to them, ending up with massive hits.


True. I love how they were able to soak it in. One of the best NYC bands.
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Reply #6 posted 06/27/08 6:36am

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I count it.
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Reply #7 posted 06/27/08 6:39am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

I count it.

Maker's Mark...whiskey sour... drool
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Reply #8 posted 06/27/08 6:42am

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RipHer2Shreds said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

I count it.

Maker's Mark...whiskey sour... drool



awww, yeah. it's not even 10 am and you got me thinkin bout drinkin.

thanks. lol
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Reply #9 posted 06/27/08 6:48am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


Maker's Mark...whiskey sour... drool



awww, yeah. it's not even 10 am and you got me thinkin bout drinkin.

thanks. lol

Okay, I don't even drink and that's a good ass drink! lol
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Reply #10 posted 06/27/08 6:50am

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That song clearly has hip-hop cred, since KRS-One sorta "sampled" it:
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Reply #11 posted 06/27/08 7:14am

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No, "Rapture" is not a hip-hop record. And just because KRS-One sampled it doesn't make it a hip-hop record (if that's the case, there have been country songs and soap opera themes that have been sampled).

The song got the novelty of being called the first hip-hop hit to land in the Billboard Hot 100 top 10, IMO, because of the relative ignorance of the people making the designation in the first place.
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Reply #12 posted 06/27/08 7:31am

Anxiety

i would consider 'rapture' to be more of a mainstream no-wave hit rather than straightforward hip-hop. no-wave was a fusion of the art world, punk, funk, and hip-hop. "rapture" certainly embraces all of those things.
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Reply #13 posted 06/27/08 7:34am

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In my opinion, it was one of the first recordings that incorporated that style into a another style of music. To little Army, why wouldn't you consider it hip hop? Is it cause it was coming to a white artist? Or is it cause it does not sound like the so-called dumb-downed version of hip-hop that is played today. Blondie, was a punk band to begin with...not a rock band, not a reggae band. The fact that they were not labeled allowed them to do the music that they did.
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Reply #14 posted 06/27/08 7:40am

Anxiety

whether or not you think it's a hip-hop song, i think it's every bit as essential to hip-hop as kraftwerk or "fame" or any of the other dance music that inspired a lot of early hip-hop.
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Reply #15 posted 06/27/08 7:41am

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Anxiety said:

whether or not you think it's a hip-hop song, i think it's every bit as essential to hip-hop as kraftwerk or "fame" or any of the other dance music that inspired a lot of early hip-hop.

thumbs up!
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Reply #16 posted 06/27/08 7:54am

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I don't mind it. It helped put hip-hop on America's cultural radar screen. Plus, Blondie was a cut above your average pop band. They incorporated new wave and hip-hop into their own distinctive sound.
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Reply #17 posted 06/27/08 7:57am

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Anxiety said:

whether or not you think it's a hip-hop song, i think it's every bit as essential to hip-hop as kraftwerk or "fame" or any of the other dance music that inspired a lot of early hip-hop.


I'm on board with that. nod
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Reply #18 posted 06/27/08 8:04am

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Well she wasnt relly rapping in the whole song. Is mainly a funky r&b tune with a rap. Maybe if it was on a acapella. Adventures Of Grandmaster Flash And The Furious 5 was the closest it got to hip hop.
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Reply #19 posted 06/27/08 8:11am

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paisleypark4 said:

Well she wasnt relly rapping in the whole song. Is mainly a funky r&b tune with a rap. Maybe if it was on a acapella. Adventures Of Grandmaster Flash And The Furious 5 was the closest it got to hip hop.
[Edited 6/27/08 8:05am]


of course she was rapping at the end of the song! it may not be considered rapping by the standards of what's on the charts in 2008, but there are those who don't consider what's currently popular as "rapping", either. lol
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Reply #20 posted 06/27/08 8:13am

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Blondie in general worship
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Reply #21 posted 06/27/08 8:22am

Timmy84

Well not really hip-hop but like Mary Wells' "Gigolo" and Teena Marie's "Square Biz", it gives kudos to the burgeoning rap scene.
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Reply #22 posted 06/27/08 8:23am

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Anxiety said:

paisleypark4 said:

Well she wasnt relly rapping in the whole song. Is mainly a funky r&b tune with a rap. Maybe if it was on a acapella. Adventures Of Grandmaster Flash And The Furious 5 was the closest it got to hip hop.
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of course she was rapping at the end of the song! it may not be considered rapping by the standards of what's on the charts in 2008, but there are those who don't consider what's currently popular as "rapping", either. lol


I mean but the main basis of the song isnt the rapping almost..if she was entirely rapping in the whole thing but she isnt. Its a R&B song with a rap...kinda like some of Missy Elliot's songs. Even back then I wouldnt think anyone would pull this one out at a underground blue light rap party unless they were mixing it with something else or playing with the instrumental...and yes there are tons of people I dont consider rap today (soulja boy to be the main one)
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Reply #23 posted 06/27/08 8:39am

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Is it the amount of time spent singing vs rapping? lol Cuz I timed it - 1:33 singing, 1:33 rapping. She's her own featured special guest rapper. mr.green
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Reply #24 posted 06/27/08 8:41am

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RipHer2Shreds said:

Is it the amount of time spent singing vs rapping? lol Cuz I timed it - 1:33 singing, 1:33 rapping. She's her own featured special guest rapper. mr.green


u talkin the single verision or the full version. i think she raps a little bot more all together i always thought...however still its a R&B song imo.
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Reply #25 posted 06/27/08 8:43am

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paisleypark4 said:

RipHer2Shreds said:

Is it the amount of time spent singing vs rapping? lol Cuz I timed it - 1:33 singing, 1:33 rapping. She's her own featured special guest rapper. mr.green


u talkin the single verision or the full version. i think she raps a little bot more all together i always thought...however still its a R&B song imo.
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It's a funk song.
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Reply #26 posted 06/27/08 8:50am

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Timmy84 said:

paisleypark4 said:



u talkin the single verision or the full version. i think she raps a little bot more all together i always thought...however still its a R&B song imo.
[Edited 6/27/08 8:41am]


It's a funk song.
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yeah,....
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Reply #27 posted 06/27/08 9:38am

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paisleypark4 said:

Timmy84 said:



It's a funk song.
[Edited 6/27/08 8:43am]


yeah,....


i just think it's a GOOD song. lol

by far my favorite blondie tune.
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Reply #28 posted 06/27/08 10:36am

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Anxiety said:

whether or not you think it's a hip-hop song, i think it's every bit as essential to hip-hop as kraftwerk or "fame" or any of the other dance music that inspired a lot of early hip-hop.



I could not have said that better myself.
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Reply #29 posted 06/27/08 12:24pm

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Anxiety said:

paisleypark4 said:



yeah,....


i just think it's a GOOD song. lol

by far my favorite blondie tune.


Hell she probably was one of the first female mc's nod
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