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Thread started 11/07/02 5:41am

Sly

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U2!!

I need advice guys! I really like U2's music, well, the singles i've heard. got a video of them live in mexico (Amazing) and the "All that you can't leave behind" lp

I want more of their stuff. i've heard Achung Baby and Joshua Tree are good places to start.

If i just brought both the greatest hits collections would that cover it? Or would this be similar to buying Prince's greatest hits collection and missing out on all those classiscs?!

HELP ME PLEASE! thanks,
"London, i've adopted a name that has no pronounciation.... is that cool with you?"

"YEAH!!!"

"Yeah, well then fuck those other fools!"
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Reply #1 posted 11/07/02 6:06am

DavidEye

'The Joshua Tree' is a kickass album,you must get that one right now!!
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Reply #2 posted 11/07/02 6:38am

starbuck

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start with Boy and work your way up just year by year smile
It's like a new discovery all over again smile
"Time is a train, makes the future the past"
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Reply #3 posted 11/07/02 7:43am

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This tread reminds me of something Prince has said during the 2nov rotterdam soundcheck.

I don't know wat the phrase was exactly, but is was something like:

i like ... but not u2.

and afterwards he asked : did you get it, i said : 'but not u2' (reffering to the group u2)

Does anyone recall exactly what he said ?
[This message was edited Thu Nov 7 7:43:25 PST 2002 by Naqua]
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Reply #4 posted 11/07/02 8:07am

Sly

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Naqua said:

This tread reminds me of something Prince has said during the 2nov rotterdam soundcheck.

I don't know wat the phrase was exactly, but is was something like:

i like ... but not u2.

and afterwards he asked : did you get it, i said : 'but not u2' (reffering to the group u2)

Does anyone recall exactly what he said ?
[This message was edited Thu Nov 7 7:43:25 PST 2002 by Naqua]


He said something like that at the london gig:

it was something like "I like u... but not u2. Did you get it? I said: but not u2"
"London, i've adopted a name that has no pronounciation.... is that cool with you?"

"YEAH!!!"

"Yeah, well then fuck those other fools!"
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Reply #5 posted 11/07/02 8:54am

thedoorkeeper

Sly said:

I need advice guys! I really like U2's music, well, the singles i've heard. got a video of them live in mexico (Amazing) and the "All that you can't leave behind" lp

I want more of their stuff. i've heard Achtung Baby and Joshua Tree are good places to start.


If you have ATYCLB & get Achtung Baby & Joshua Tree you, IMHO, would have their 3 best cds. Then if you want more pick up both of the greatest hits that are the 2 cd sets because they each have a cd of b-sides.

I bought the new greatest hits at Wal-Mart yesterday - its on sale for $14.88 which includes a bonus DVD along with the 2 cd set.
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Reply #6 posted 11/07/02 9:30am

eelco

Sly said:

Does anyone recall exactly what he said ?


this is what was said in Rotterdam:

P: Do U like me?
we: Yes!!!
P: Well, I like U2... but not the band!.

nobody Laughs

P Explains, SOME people laugh..

poor joke really,

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Reply #7 posted 11/07/02 10:37am

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Get the two greatest hits collections and leave it at that. All that You Can't Leave Behind is their only album I can sit through all the way.

The second half of Joshua Tree sucks beyond belief, and several songs on Achtung are complete throwaways. Zooropa is even more consistent than Achtung!

Avoid the "Pop" album by all means...
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Reply #8 posted 11/07/02 4:51pm

rdhull

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thedoorkeeper said:

I bought the new greatest hits at Wal-Mart yesterday - its on sale for $14.88 which includes a bonus DVD along with the 2 cd set.


GOOD LOKIN OUT! I went to that godawful Wal-Mart store to get this because of your post...even though I am miffed at the song selection etc., you cannot go wrong at that price!
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Reply #9 posted 11/09/02 10:07am

TRON

jtgillia said:
Get the two greatest hits collections and leave it at that. All that You Can't Leave Behind is their only album I can sit through all the way.

The second half of Joshua Tree sucks beyond belief, and several songs on Achtung are complete throwaways. Zooropa is even more consistent than Achtung!

Avoid the "Pop" album by all means...


Don't listen to him! He's nuts. Especially about Achtung Baby. That is their masterpiece and every song is a keeper. I think the following albums are all wonderful and worth checking out-

Boy
War
The Unforgettable Fire
Joshua Tree
Achtung Baby
Zooropa
Passengers
Pop
All That You Can't Leave Behind

Of course their greatest hits are a great place to start. Often a compilation is the best way to get into an artist. It gets you hooked and wanting more. Plus the b-sides and remixes on the 2nd discs are so great. I'd say pick up Achtung and both greatest hits and see what happens. wink
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Reply #10 posted 11/09/02 10:16am

mistermaxxx

A Couple of there Albums&Greatest Hits Packages Covers it.they are Vastly Overrated In My Book over time.
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Reply #11 posted 11/09/02 10:38am

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jtgillia said:

Get the two greatest hits collections and leave it at that. All that You Can't Leave Behind is their only album I can sit through all the way.

The second half of Joshua Tree sucks beyond belief, and several songs on Achtung are complete throwaways. Zooropa is even more consistent than Achtung!

Avoid the "Pop" album by all means...


Please do not discuss anything on U2 again ...please...
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Reply #12 posted 11/09/02 5:04pm

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Rattle and Hum is an album that everyone should own. That and Achtung Baby are of a standard that few bands have ever got even close to being in the same league as. These 2 albums, if not already owned, need to be.
I'm not gonna bother listing the highlights, suffice to say, that there isn't a bad song amonst them.
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Reply #13 posted 11/09/02 6:10pm

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I'll continue discussing whatever I want to discuss. I'm sorry if some can't handle my superior opinion. U2 is overrated. End of discussion.
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Reply #14 posted 11/09/02 7:03pm

rdhull

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jtgillia said:

I'll continue discussing whatever I want to discuss. I'm sorry if some can't handle my superior opinion. U2 is overrated. End of discussion.


I said "please"..but Im just trying to help you out since you dont seem to know about the quality of U2 music which is painfully evident in what you said lol . It isnt about not being able to handle a supposed superior opinion, its about trying to help you not look foolish on the subject.Re-read what you wrote and edit it before more see it. But that's on you bruh...
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Reply #15 posted 11/09/02 7:23pm

mistermaxxx

jtgillia said:

I'll continue discussing whatever I want to discuss. I'm sorry if some can't handle my superior opinion. U2 is overrated. End of discussion.
I Got Your Back.sure I Like a Couple of Albums&the Greatest Hits Packages but give me a Break what is so special overall about them?&Yes I've seen them Live&on TV&wasn't blown away.Bono gets all the Love for Writing anyway.Average Band with some decent Production.
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Reply #16 posted 11/09/02 7:37pm

Supernova

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jtgillia said:

I'm sorry if some can't handle my superior opinion.

I hope that's sarcasm.


Btw, no REAL U2 fan would diss Joshua Tree and Actung Baby. But nothing's wrong with being a casual fan. I'm not in love with the Joshua Tree as a whole, but to say half of it "sucks beyond belief"...
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #17 posted 11/09/02 7:41pm

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mistermaxxx said:

jtgillia said:

I'll continue discussing whatever I want to discuss. I'm sorry if some can't handle my superior opinion. U2 is overrated. End of discussion.
I Got Your Back.sure I Like a Couple of Albums&the Greatest Hits Packages but give me a Break what is so special overall about them?&Yes I've seen them Live&on TV&wasn't blown away.Bono gets all the Love for Writing anyway.Average Band with some decent Production.


You did see them live?..in person?..where and when.Tell me why they are over rated and other artists arent. They cant be overrate d because they have been consisitently good..overrated and overexposed are two different thangs..and then again they arent even overexposed in the grand scheme of things. Average band? Okkaaay...now this is just geting biased and silly.
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Reply #18 posted 11/09/02 7:47pm

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Supernova said:

jtgillia said:

I'm sorry if some can't handle my superior opinion.

I hope that's sarcasm.


Btw, no REAL U2 fan would diss Joshua Tree and Actung Baby. But nothing's wrong with being a casual fan. I'm not in love with the Joshua Tree as a whole, but to say half of it "sucks beyond belief"...


JT doesnt know what the hell he's talkin about period..its as if hes a pop radio listener etc. with that rhetoric he posted. He's said other stupid things about music before. Yeah I said it.
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Reply #19 posted 11/09/02 7:53pm

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Just because I have a different opinion than yours, doesn't mean I've said stupid things about music. I happen to be very educated on the subject. And I'm sure not getting into something I don't know about, as I have all of U2's studio albums from Joshua Tree on. I don't listen to any of them hardly though, because they're exceptionally mediocre.
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Reply #20 posted 11/09/02 7:54pm

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Oh, and I don't listen to radio period. Such a waste of time when I'm my own best DJ.
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Reply #21 posted 11/09/02 8:11pm

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And to back up my shit, this is why I said it--- for JT Gilla:

You said avoid PoP--POP has excellent vision in the songs they created. Gone is simply powerful. If God Will Send His Angels is sweet..Staring At The Sun is classic in melody, lyrics and music..can be played acoustically by a campfire or in fornt of 20,000 people.MOFO is the sound of the world beuing destroyed and awesome guitar work with a beat. Wake Up Dead Man is a plea-accusation on Jesus and the world he leaves behind. Playboy Mansion on the extremees of celebrity and all it's bullshit etc..all of these set to daring music. Discoteque the sound of a serious band experimenting with danc e and electronica and being successful regardless..

There is not one throw-away on AB...thats just dumb. Zoo station, Ultra Violett is a perfect song as is Acrobat, the somber Love Is Blindness, the beautiful So cruel. The Fly is heavy metal and powerful. Tryin To Throw Your Hands is what 2 in the morning sounds like..those arent singles that were overplayed so I dont know what you meant by throwaways on Achtung baby etc...saying the one off side hurried project of Zooropa with the brilliant Numb-Stay-and others as being more consistent thjen what it stemmed from though is just ignorant...

The second half of JT "sucking beyond belief" is just fucking stupid to sday. Im sure you only can hang with the first 3 songs played on radio and the other half is to esoterical for you etc..Red Hill Mining Town, Trip Through Your Wires, Running to Stand Still --all delaing with employment, heroin addiction etc you blast..goddamn your take on U2 is plain ignorant. Fuck an opinion..you have been reading to many Entertainment Weekly quick synopsis reviews.

I shouldnt be aso harsh anyways..some music is like spending a long day at a museum when people are used to going to an amusement park. Im a music snob...thank GOD!!!
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Reply #22 posted 11/09/02 8:17pm

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jtgillia said:

Just because I have a different opinion than yours, doesn't mean I've said stupid things about music.


But you HAVE..and it isnt just becaue there have been differences in opinions.

I happen to be very educated on the subject. And I'm sure not getting into something I don't know about, as I have all of U2's studio albums from Joshua Tree on. I don't listen to any of them hardly though, because they're exceptionally mediocre.


Owning records doesnt mean you are well versed or knowledgable about them. "The second half of JT sucks beyond belief" proves that shit. Thats mor e ignorant than when FunkyStrange and his dipshit ass said Jimi Hendrix was overrated...becasue he doesnt know any better. Miles davis or Joni Mitchell playing -"hey turn that shit off..and put on something thatas listenable please"
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Reply #23 posted 11/09/02 8:18pm

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jtgillia said:

Oh, and I don't listen to radio period. Such a waste of time when I'm my own best DJ.


I have a feeling even your turntable, stereo etc rolls its eyes at you.
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Reply #24 posted 11/09/02 8:22pm

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Much respect goes to
Bono and the U2 crew.

I haven't got any of their albums but I always have liked what I've heard. I respect the fact that they always let their music do the talking and not the act (like so many fakers out there today)
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Reply #25 posted 11/09/02 8:25pm

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jtgillia said:

Just because I have a different opinion than yours, doesn't mean I've said stupid things about music. I happen to be very educated on the subject. And I'm sure not getting into something I don't know about, as I have all of U2's studio albums from Joshua Tree on. I don't listen to any of them hardly though, because they're exceptionally mediocre.

But having all their studio albums from the Joshua Tree on is sort of akin to someone saying they have all of Springsteen's albums from Born In The USA on, like they only got interested with his biggest seller and have no interest in anything before it.

Like I said, there is nothing wrong with being a casual fan, and I'm really not trying to come down on you. But usually if someone were to ask which albums to buy by a specific artist they'd usually want to ask a more serious fan who was into said artist's music even before their biggest seller (if their biggest seller was later on down the line). I certainly wouldn't tell a potential Prince fan that nothing Prince did prior to Purple Rain was without merit. Because nothing would be further from the truth.

I'm not what one would call a hardcore U2 fan, but I'm just trying to be objective.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #26 posted 11/09/02 8:26pm

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mistermaxxx said:

jtgillia said:

I'll continue discussing whatever I want to discuss. I'm sorry if some can't handle my superior opinion. U2 is overrated. End of discussion.
I Got Your Back.sure I Like a Couple of Albums&the Greatest Hits Packages but give me a Break what is so special overall about them?&Yes I've seen them Live&on TV&wasn't blown away.Bono gets all the Love for Writing anyway.Average Band with some decent Production.


This is some bullshit--ya know why?..not because it coming from you and you know better than that shit but The same could be said of 99% of the artists that we all praise in this forum..EWF etc..Radiohead etc..Joni Mitchell...Prince..Parliament..whats so great about them? I really throw my hands up when I hear people say that statement beause it means that their mind is closed on the subject and they are biased. If you want me to tell you whats so special about U2 or any artists dick I ride then I will tell you..do you want me to..or do you "honestly" need me to explain whats so special? And its not justs Bonos writing,..Edge is just as much a part of their sound, writing etc as Bono."Everyone" knows that.
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Reply #27 posted 11/09/02 8:31pm

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Hey asshole, I'm glad you like the lyrics to Joshua Tree so much. I won't debate they aren't meaningful. Too bad the music is way too bland to back it up. Same story with most of the non-singles on Achtung. It's true, I only like their singles for the most part. Sue me.

Pop had Discotheque, Do You Feel Loved, Mofo, and Staring at the Sun. Everything else is in dire need of a real melody.

You're arrogant attitude towards an differing opinion is about as cool as hellfire.
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Reply #28 posted 11/09/02 8:35pm

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Despite all I've said, I still have respect for U2 and enjoy some of their work. I am actually thinking about picking up War and Unforgettable Fire, but haven't gotten around to it.

You'd think I said something completely homophobic or something- for God's sakes lighten up.
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Reply #29 posted 11/09/02 8:39pm

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jtgillia said:

Hey asshole,


Dont call me names just because I called you out on your stupidity..

I'm glad you like the lyrics to Joshua Tree so much. I won't debate they aren't meaningful. Too bad the music is way too bland to back it up.


keep making up stupid shit...music bland on the second half..okayyy..keep showin your ass..at first it was dumbfounding, now it s getting humorous

Same story with most of the non-singles on Achtung. It's true, I only like their singles for the most part. Sue me.


I was right all the while...and same story...music bland...straight up..youre an ass..not because of your so called "honest" opinion, but that you are basically full of shit obviously and cant back your shit up. Okaaay..AB music is "bland"..damn. Thats a GOOD one...JT says "alll Jimi did was play geetar , whats the big deal"...


You're arrogant attitude towards an differing opinion is about as cool as hellfire.


I dont have an arrogant attitude towards differing opnions..I have an arrogant attitude to people saying things that they have not one iota of what theyre talking about.Which you have proved.Im not coming down on you--only your ignorant opinion.

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