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Reply #60 posted 11/10/02 1:21pm

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Opinion related topics are not for debating as rdhull believes.

Ummm, opinions are debated ALL the time, in every forum, about many things. The fact that it rains can't be debated. It's a fact. The fact that cars run on gasoline can't be debated. It's a fact. Yes, music, like all art is subjective, and this is where I explain...

I listen and think what I want-therefore, I feel it is my right to not listen to U2 if I don't want. This isn't about U2 anymore, though. This is about rdhull and his incredibly facsist view of the music...

...Rd wants people to give reasons WHY people feel the way they do, not just giving an off the cuff opinion of someone being "overrated." He wants people to state WHY in their opinion they are overrated. Insted of being flippant and dismissive without anything of substance to one's argument. Saying something "sucks beyond belief" is fine, but ok, I think he wants to know why you hold that opinion. I figure most of us have said similar things, but when queried about it if you can't give solid, rational reasons...

And I'm not talking about reasons that have to be agreed with.
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Reply #61 posted 11/10/02 1:46pm

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Supernova said:

jtgillia said:

Opinion related topics are not for debating as rdhull believes.

Ummm, opinions are debated ALL the time, in every forum, about many things. The fact that it rains can't be debated. It's a fact. The fact that cars run on gasoline can't be debated. It's a fact. Yes, music, like all art is subjective, and this is where I explain...

I listen and think what I want-therefore, I feel it is my right to not listen to U2 if I don't want. This isn't about U2 anymore, though. This is about rdhull and his incredibly facsist view of the music...

...Rd wants people to give reasons WHY people feel the way they do, not just giving an off the cuff opinion of someone being "overrated." He wants people to state WHY in their opinion they are overrated. Insted of being flippant and dismissive without anything of substance to one's argument. Saying something "sucks beyond belief" is fine, but ok, I think he wants to know why you hold that opinion. I figure most of us have said similar things, but when queried about it if you can't give solid, rational reasons...

And I'm not talking about reasons that have to be agreed with.


I may not be as eloquent as some but I had hoped that that was the message that came across. Thank you and thank god someone gets the picture lol All I heard was JT immediately dismiss important parts of the music, and MisterMaxx just name-dropped and brought in other talents as comparisons. This is about U2 and their aesthetic, their music. Any other artist can be pitted against someone else and it can be said "well these guys run circles around ___". If my passion to explain music opinions comes across as facism well I cant help that and I dont see anything wrong with it when people make blatant blanket statements. On an added note, I dont think U2 is a singles,greatest hits band..If someone was to ask what to buy, to foolishly dismiss important parts of their work that make up the 'essence' of the band, well to me thats just plain wrong. I wouldnt say get Bowies greatest hits ..folks interested in him need to get the early stuff as well as the all important Berlin trilogy that includes Low, Lodger etc..difficult to get through but important non-the-less..those are important steps to understanmding the whole artistry of Bowie..same with George Clinton..dont just get Motor Booty and dismiss important shit like One Nation and Chocolate City and whats on Chocolat City and what Chocolate City means etc...aww fuck it.

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Reply #62 posted 11/10/02 2:00pm

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jtgillia said:

I don't bow down to an overall opinion, or a poll, or MTV. Rdhull calls U2 a "group that has been proven of greatness". Proven by who? Critics? U2 fans?


I never used these terms to determine the worth of someones music..and if I included some of them in explanations it was only to further points that have proably been already used --and I seriously doubt I ever used used polls, mtv or critics as a reason for the importance or "greatness" of a band. Please, spare me and dont insult me like that---I would rather you call me an asshole again.

Well, not be me. And I can guarantee you that there are many others that agree with where I'm coming from, and it's also not a crime or a matter of being right or wrong (ignorant as rd so delicately puts it).


Well Im sorry but to dismmiss JT's second half and POP altogether is wrong..proposterous to say so but thats what proposterous public opinions get...expect it. That is why I said "please sdont speak on U2" ..you are giving shoddy advice oand it is from someone who isnt well versed in their music evidently (Mr Singles man). And that right there is a major point. What you are saying is equivalent to saying someone who wants to get into Prince, to just get D&P, Rave etc...bypassing seminal records like DM, 1999, SOTT etc.

Obviously, rd doesn't understand my playful sarcasm when I said "superior opinion."


Um..dont assume..I never even mentioned that in anything. Dont think this is because of some misunderstanding of meaning.Dont get shit twisted now.

Opinion related topics are not for debating as rdhull believes. Because you won't get anywhere.


Oh now youre gonna tell me what I believe..how grand! Opinion related topics are beautiful and what its about..but ya need to realize stupid opinions and ignorant ones are now a reality thanks to you...

I listen and think what I want-therefore, I feel it is my right to not listen to U2 if I don't want.


who gives a shit what you do or dont listen to? Just dont speak out or give shoddy advice on what you dont know of. Simple.

This isn't about U2 anymore, though. This is about rdhull and his incredibly facsist view of the music...


Facist..damn Ive been called every name in the book but thats a first... lol

However, the original topic was about whether or not the author should get their albums or if their greatest hits covered most of what was worth hearing. After wading through a lot of U2's shit, I can say with confidence that I believe the greatest hits albums would cover it (except for a small handful of songs, like Bullet the Blue Sky, Babyface, and Wild Honey). And nothing rdhull says is going to prove anything wrong with that statement because it's my opinion.


Well there may not be a "right" or "wrong" opinion...but there are several "fucked up" "uneducated" opinions..guess your category on the subject at hand...Survey says!!...


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Reply #63 posted 11/10/02 3:03pm

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mistermaxxx said:

U2&The Rolling Stones are Overrated&Inflated Period.Parliament Funkadelic Plays Circles around both on there Off Day.Bernie Worrell,Eddie Hazel,Mike Hampton,P-Funk Horns,Bootsy can play U2&the ROlling Stones Grooves in there Sleep&then do a Whole Gig of there stuff.U2 is as about as Funky as Jackson Browne.Prince dissed there WEack Ass Because what they get away with A Brother would get Laughed off a Stage for even pulling that Mess.nobody brags about U2's Guitar Playing,Bass Instrumentation,Drumming etc... it's all on the Production&Songwriting period.Rolling Stones play the same Damn song for almost 30 years&are Proclaim as being Great?? what kind of world do we live in??

Ohhh, NOW you're going to bat for PFunk, but when you got into it with PFunkjazz about his dislike of your proclaimed hero Rick James and his singing of ballads you didn't have one good thing to say about Parliament/Funkadelic. Very opportunistic of you. VERY opportunistic.
I never said I didn't like P-Funk.but I was talking about Him Ripping Rick's Singing&I was Saying that George CLinton wasn't no Sinatra or a Billy Eckstine His Damn Self.funny how you like too dip&Dap in this Mix but I never was mixing in your Salad in the first Place HMMM???
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Reply #64 posted 11/10/02 3:06pm

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mistermaxxx said:

jtgillia said:

Just because I have a different opinion than yours, doesn't mean I've said stupid things about music. I happen to be very educated on the subject. And I'm sure not getting into something I don't know about, as I have all of U2's studio albums from Joshua Tree on. I don't listen to any of them hardly though, because they're exceptionally mediocre.
You Know Your Shit Man,Shake these Haters up in here trying too praise tired Ass U2.

Has there been a revamping of the meaning of the silly word "hater"? It's 2 people in this thread that dislike U2 doing the so-called "hating" in a thread asking for U2 suggestions. And you praise Madonna to the ends of the earth - but you're not a fan anymore. All very logical. All very consistent. nod
too Comment on My use of the Word "Hater" One must be one.did you just Proclaim yourself a "Hater"???I don't praise Madonna.I Respect Her&what She has done as a Artist.Hell FYI Bono is a Fan of Madonna.I Like Some Of U2's Stuff&Have a Collection of Tapes but they aren't all that IMHO.
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Reply #65 posted 11/10/02 3:09pm

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For the record: THE EDGE aka Dave Evans, is a highly regarded guitar player and plenty of people rave about U2's musicianship without being a fan of their music.
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Reply #66 posted 11/10/02 3:11pm

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mistermaxxx said:

.funny how you like too dip&Dap in this Mix but I never was mixing in your Salad in the first Place HMMM???


Look whos talkin'! Youre trippin!
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Reply #67 posted 11/10/02 3:13pm

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For the record: THE EDGE aka Dave Evans, is a highly regarded guitar player and plenty of people rave about U2's musicianship without being a fan of their music.


yeah but "some" people dont know this..they like to just namedrop to try and "win" something..that also tells me "they" dont know shit ..dismissing The Edges guitar work...pfft.
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Reply #68 posted 11/10/02 3:14pm

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1988 East Coast between New York&Virgina.you wanna get all IRS up in here over those tired Drunk Bums ok.what about them is so Ground-Breaking?all you hear about is there Songwriting&Bono.Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys blows there tired Shit into the Water."California Girls"&that Melody&Harmonies alone would clean U2 out easily IMHO.back in 91 with that Album they were jacking there Sounds off Jesus Jones among others.are U2 on Steely Dan's Music Level?Hell Naw.I Can Name 499 other Acts that Would Whip there Ass with One Eye Closed.truth be told all Acts are overrated&Underrated but acts like U2 are Overexposed&take Bono away&they would be Assed out.you saw Larry Graham leading the Family Stone now it ain't the same without Sly but Larry was Handling Business let U2 get on any stage without Bono&they will get the Sexual Chocolate Treatment.


This is part of the problem. You act as if music is some type of competition, like the Olympics. Music is an art of expression. Its participants don't line up and run against each other, they don't play with a ball to outscore each other. One's style doesn't have to be equalled to be of equal merit. Believe it or not, just because something is different doesn't necessarily make it inferior or superior. Sometimes it's just different. Of course there are musicians who are more accomplished in some ways than U2, but if we're going to go that route, NOBODY outside of Jazz is worth anything, so we can just forget about any group mentioned in this thread based on how well they play their respective instruments.

I mean seriously, if some of you don't like U2, that's fine, because we're all entitled to like whatever it is we like. But the original poster asked for suggestions from people about what's best to get from their catalog, and to rank on 'em like you're doing is akin to all the anti-Madonna bashing that you get your feathers ruffled by when people do the same thing in the MYRIAD of threads devoted to her. 'Tis your right to do what you're doing, just as it IS an anti-Madonna fan's right for their opinions of her and everything else about her in a thread dedicated to her. And the opinions here about U2 are no less valid as yours about Madonna - just different. Remember this the next time there is another Madonna thread.
you should be a Spin Doctor at the WHite House because you have twisted things up.I said I dug 2 U2 Albums&there Two greatest Hits Packages&that's all.I said I felt they were Overrated for all this extra Love they get but I respect them&dig certain things.also I was standing up with JTgillia because Busters were trying too diss what He felt&I thought that Shit is wrong.that is all.the Industry is a Competition&a Hustle give me a break.it is about who is doing what&what is going on.you aren't that Naive too think that the Business hasn't always been Competitive?? as for U2 it's Bono&then the Band.Bono started that Attitude in the early 90's Dueting with Sinatra&hanging with Quincy Jones on Different Projects&things.there are alot of Acts in the History of Pop that could hang with Jazz Cats.but Music is Music period.
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Reply #69 posted 11/10/02 3:18pm

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rdhull said:

mistermaxxx said:

rdhull said:

mistermaxxx said:

jtgillia said:

I'll continue discussing whatever I want to discuss. I'm sorry if some can't handle my superior opinion. U2 is overrated. End of discussion.
I Got Your Back.sure I Like a Couple of Albums&the Greatest Hits Packages but give me a Break what is so special overall about them?&Yes I've seen them Live&on TV&wasn't blown away.Bono gets all the Love for Writing anyway.Average Band with some decent Production.


This is some bullshit--ya know why?..not because it coming from you and you know better than that shit but The same could be said of 99% of the artists that we all praise in this forum..EWF etc..Radiohead etc..Joni Mitchell...Prince..Parliament..whats so great about them? I really throw my hands up when I hear people say that statement beause it means that their mind is closed on the subject and they are biased. If you want me to tell you whats so special about U2 or any artists dick I ride then I will tell you..do you want me to..or do you "honestly" need me to explain whats so special? And its not justs Bonos writing,..Edge is just as much a part of their sound, writing etc as Bono."Everyone" knows that.
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U2&The Rolling Stones are Overrated&Inflated Period.Parliament Funkadelic Plays Circles around both on there Off Day.Bernie Worrell,Eddie Hazel,Mike Hampton,P-Funk Horns,Bootsy can play U2&the ROlling Stones Grooves in there Sleep&then do a Whole Gig of there stuff.U2 is as about as Funky as Jackson Browne.Prince dissed there WEack Ass Because what they get away with A Brother would get Laughed off a Stage for even pulling that Mess.nobody brags about U2's Guitar Playing,Bass Instrumentation,Drumming etc... it's all on the Production&Songwriting period.Rolling Stones play the same Damn song for almost 30 years&are Proclaim as being Great?? what kind of world do we live in??


Wtf? It aint about U2 being as funky as Bernie etc..they are top notch at the music THEY play...and nah they cant play them off the stage without practicing for what they need to be playing just like anybody else...can they do Streets With No Name? can they? This snt about what "genre" thats played. The can do a gig of their stuff eh? Not witout practice just like U2 couldnt do there stuff witout practice..dont even try to front like Bernie et al. can just go upstage and start playing With Or Without you, Streets, Fly etc with no hesitation and vice versa...and wtf does the Stones have to..ahh..I see...but Ill entertain it..nobody gives props to Edges guitar playing or production..riggght..bass and drums ok, so what. My point is not to detract from the music they "do" perform. What si this "gettin away with what others cant get away with"? I aint talkin about awards. So you saw them in 88 eh? Where? They couldnt play? They werent good? Okaaay,,,right! And the media is who proclaim people to eb great etc..shit dont even trip. If you had millions of people cming to see you for 30 plus years you wouldnt consider yourself being great or having some staying power? EVERYONE gets bloated..even Bernie, Bootsy ( dont try and tell me he has been so electic ..this just an example). Not everythging released by them is a masterpiece..but I aint gonna act all fopul and say "oh that last one has no merit"..yall are some biased mf-ers. Dont make this into what it aint.
Prince ROlling Stone 1990 said&I quote I could Play "La Cross" but could U2 play "HouseQuake"??Bernie Worrell might shock the Hell out of You if you only knew??He plays on Talking Heads Stuff&I Know He could Rip up U2's Stuff in Minutes if He felt like it?
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Reply #70 posted 11/10/02 3:19pm

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rdhull said:

mistermaxxx said:

jtgillia said:

Just because I have a different opinion than yours, doesn't mean I've said stupid things about music. I happen to be very educated on the subject. And I'm sure not getting into something I don't know about, as I have all of U2's studio albums from Joshua Tree on. I don't listen to any of them hardly though, because they're exceptionally mediocre.
You Know Your Shit Man,Shake these Haters up in here trying too praise tired Ass U2.


hahaha--look in then mirror for haters...I aint the one talkin shit...he knows his shit? uh huh,righttt.. lol there goes your credibility too..just because he is hatin on a proven band that you have beef with...damn shame ..damn shame..as if othe r bands aretn tired..and i wasnt given praise anyways..i was just poiointing out boolshit about detracting from what is proven to be classic material...now what if some fool said "Motor Booty Affair' is nothing but one good song called Aqua Boogie...would it be about.."well the Stones can do riff rock better...?" pay attention!
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I See why you pick that Stones Logo you are Long in the Tooth&Tired as them Busters.
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Reply #71 posted 11/10/02 3:20pm

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mistermaxxx said:

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mistermaxxx said:

1988 East Coast between New York&Virgina.you wanna get all IRS up in here over those tired Drunk Bums ok.what about them is so Ground-Breaking?all you hear about is there Songwriting&Bono.Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys blows there tired Shit into the Water."California Girls"&that Melody&Harmonies alone would clean U2 out easily IMHO.back in 91 with that Album they were jacking there Sounds off Jesus Jones among others.are U2 on Steely Dan's Music Level?Hell Naw.I Can Name 499 other Acts that Would Whip there Ass with One Eye Closed.truth be told all Acts are overrated&Underrated but acts like U2 are Overexposed&take Bono away&they would be Assed out.you saw Larry Graham leading the Family Stone now it ain't the same without Sly but Larry was Handling Business let U2 get on any stage without Bono&they will get the Sexual Chocolate Treatment.


This is part of the problem. You act as if music is some type of competition, like the Olympics. Music is an art of expression. Its participants don't line up and run against each other, they don't play with a ball to outscore each other. One's style doesn't have to be equalled to be of equal merit. Believe it or not, just because something is different doesn't necessarily make it inferior or superior. Sometimes it's just different. Of course there are musicians who are more accomplished in some ways than U2, but if we're going to go that route, NOBODY outside of Jazz is worth anything, so we can just forget about any group mentioned in this thread based on how well they play their respective instruments.

I mean seriously, if some of you don't like U2, that's fine, because we're all entitled to like whatever it is we like. But the original poster asked for suggestions from people about what's best to get from their catalog, and to rank on 'em like you're doing is akin to all the anti-Madonna bashing that you get your feathers ruffled by when people do the same thing in the MYRIAD of threads devoted to her. 'Tis your right to do what you're doing, just as it IS an anti-Madonna fan's right for their opinions of her and everything else about her in a thread dedicated to her. And the opinions here about U2 are no less valid as yours about Madonna - just different. Remember this the next time there is another Madonna thread.
you should be a Spin Doctor at the WHite House because you have twisted things up.I said I dug 2 U2 Albums&there Two greatest Hits Packages&that's all.I said I felt they were Overrated for all this extra Love they get but I respect them&dig certain things.also I was standing up with JTgillia because Busters were trying too diss what He felt&I thought that Shit is wrong.that is all.the Industry is a Competition&a Hustle give me a break.it is about who is doing what&what is going on.you aren't that Naive too think that the Business hasn't always been Competitive?? as for U2 it's Bono&then the Band.Bono started that Attitude in the early 90's Dueting with Sinatra&hanging with Quincy Jones on Different Projects&things.there are alot of Acts in the History of Pop that could hang with Jazz Cats.but Music is Music period.


what the fuck are you talking about? --speak english..and I got your buster hangin' namedropper...you know my damn name--dont speak "around" me. All your ass knows how to do is bring up some names and read the credits on albums to state your case.."buster"..please. Your ass "supposedly" seen them live to so fuck that, you went to a white concert too.

p.s. fuck Rick James lol
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Reply #72 posted 11/10/02 3:22pm

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Prince ROlling Stone 1990 said&I quote I could Play "La Cross" but could U2 play "HouseQuake"??Bernie Worrell might shock the Hell out of You if you only knew??He plays on Talking Heads Stuff&I Know He could Rip up U2's Stuff in Minutes if He felt like it?


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Reply #73 posted 11/10/02 3:24pm

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I See why you pick that Stones Logo you are Long in the Tooth&Tired as them Busters.[/quote]

You have no idea why...big talker. Im tellin you went to see U2 live...
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Reply #74 posted 11/10/02 3:24pm

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rdhull said:

All your ass knows how to do is bring up some names and read the credits on albums to state your case..lol



hee hee I had kinda noticed that's his style wink
kinda why I read his posts with a grain o'salt rolleyes
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Reply #75 posted 11/10/02 3:25pm

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mistermaxxx said:

rdhull said:

mistermaxxx said:

jtgillia said:

I'll continue discussing whatever I want to discuss. I'm sorry if some can't handle my superior opinion. U2 is overrated. End of discussion.
I Got Your Back.sure I Like a Couple of Albums&the Greatest Hits Packages but give me a Break what is so special overall about them?&Yes I've seen them Live&on TV&wasn't blown away.Bono gets all the Love for Writing anyway.Average Band with some decent Production.


You did see them live?..in person?..where and when.Tell me why they are over rated and other artists arent. They cant be overrate d because they have been consisitently good..overrated and overexposed are two different thangs..and then again they arent even overexposed in the grand scheme of things. Average band? Okkaaay...now this is just geting biased and silly.


1988 East Coast between New York&Virgina.you wanna get all IRS up in here over those tired Drunk Bums ok.what about them is so Ground-Breaking?all you hear about is there Songwriting&Bono.


yeah...sureee you sawe them live lol. And what did I say was ground breaking--I asked if you wanted me to tell you what is so great aboutthem...but I'll pass now anyway cause you blinded by..something...

Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys blows there tired Shit into the Water."California Girls"&that Melody&Harmonies alone would clean U2 out easily IMHO


There you go again with the comparisons..lol..who gives a fuck about Brian Wilson and Ca Girls..I never said U2 were THE BEST or THE WORST...pay attention. And hell yeah some of U2's stuff surpasses Brian Wilson..hahah youre strugglin

.back in 91 with that Album they were jacking there Sounds off Jesus Jones among others.


Ok now I see why u have JT Gillas back...they were biting off of Jesus? LOLOLOL--they may have been biting off the electronica movement but a specific group? And Jesus Jones to boot???!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL...okayyy..JT got some company! Now youre opinion is just as ignorant as jtgillas..yeah U2 wanted to be Jesus Jones...right here right now.

are U2 on Steely Dan's Music Level?Hell Naw.I Can Name 499 other Acts that Would Whip there Ass with One Eye Closed.truth be told all Acts are overrated&Underrated but acts like U2 are Overexposed&take Bono away&they would be Assed out.you saw Larry Graham leading the Family Stone now it ain't the same without Sly but Larry was Handling Business let U2 get on any stage without Bono&they will get the Sexual Chocolate Treatment.


Hey smart guy--take away any prominant member of a band and see what happens..especially the lead singer..DUH!! (watch your as come up with some Van Halen did it shit).You still aint said shit yet..Um...ok...overexposed...lets see..they make a cd every 3 years and do the usual two year tour promotion like any other band that still has popularity and is consistent..and thats a bad thing? Gotta be on the underground to be good? After 20 years? Gotta not hear from them? Man..please! Near the end where you said "truth be told all acts are overrated underrated"--well no shit! This wasnt even about that till you made it that..yall just mad cause I broke shit down and explained Gillas gross display of foolishness and your ego is attached. But "I unda-stand". It aint right but its ok..Ive had to do this kind of stuff before.


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what did you break down? U2 is overexposed&Overrated.Teh Temptations went through Ruffin&Kendricks&Still Thrived as have other Acts but then again U2 is White so knowing how the system works Oh well the Game is the Game&like I said before anybody hiding behind a tired Act like the ROlling Stones can't really have Progressed much anyway.My All-Time Favorite Mick Jagger Stories:Michael Jackson saying how did this Flat Singing Cat get a Deal&Miles Davis Slamming the Door in Mick's Face.Classic Moments on those Jokers.
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Reply #76 posted 11/10/02 3:26pm

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rdhull said:

All your ass knows how to do is bring up some names and read the credits on albums to state your case..lol



hee hee I had kinda noticed that's his style wink
kinda why I read his posts with a grain o'salt :rolleyes:


now hes tryin ot bring this pro black shit against my statements and my precious logo of rebellion lol ..his ass aint seen nobody live..the soul greats (and not so greats ) Ive seen would blow his pants saggin punkass out the water..yeah I said it.
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Reply #77 posted 11/10/02 3:28pm

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Supernova said:

I mean seriously, if some of you don't like U2, that's fine, because we're all entitled to like whatever it is we like. But the original poster asked for suggestions from people about what's best to get from their catalog, and to rank on 'em like you're doing is akin to all the anti-Madonna bashing that you get your feathers ruffled by when people do the same thing in the MYRIAD of threads devoted to her. 'Tis your right to do what you're doing, just as it IS an anti-Madonna fan's right for their opinions of her and everything else about her in a thread dedicated to her. And the opinions here about U2 are no less valid as yours about Madonna - just different. Remember this the next time there is another Madonna thread.


Oh he knows this---its just an ego and a race thing. He doesnt want to get clowned along with JTGILLA ..too late!!!
I Don't get CLowned.I could Care less about U2.Bono ain't met a Hype Camera He couldn't Front on&Around.
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Reply #78 posted 11/10/02 3:28pm

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mistermaxxx said:

what did you break down? U2 is overexposed&Overrated.Teh Temptations went through Ruffin&Kendricks&Still Thrived as have other Acts but then again U2 is White so knowing how the system works Oh well the Game is the Game&like I said before anybody hiding behind a tired Act like the ROlling Stones can't really have Progressed much anyway.My All-Time Favorite Mick Jagger Stories:Michael Jackson saying how did this Flat Singing Cat get a Deal&Miles Davis Slamming the Door in Mick's Face.Classic Moments on those Jokers.


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name-dropper...credits reader..."youre a fake"-Alexander Oneal
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Reply #79 posted 11/10/02 3:34pm

PFunkjazz

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rdhull said:

his ass aint seen nobody live.


Think so? I really have no patience for broke-ass, pro-Black radicals who are too cheap to spend a dime on their culture and always bithcn' 'bout "the system" and "the white man". Fuck 'em finger who needs em?
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Reply #80 posted 11/10/02 3:35pm

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mistermaxxx said:

rdhull said:

Supernova said:

I mean seriously, if some of you don't like U2, that's fine, because we're all entitled to like whatever it is we like. But the original poster asked for suggestions from people about what's best to get from their catalog, and to rank on 'em like you're doing is akin to all the anti-Madonna bashing that you get your feathers ruffled by when people do the same thing in the MYRIAD of threads devoted to her. 'Tis your right to do what you're doing, just as it IS an anti-Madonna fan's right for their opinions of her and everything else about her in a thread dedicated to her. And the opinions here about U2 are no less valid as yours about Madonna - just different. Remember this the next time there is another Madonna thread.


Oh he knows this---its just an ego and a race thing. He doesnt want to get clowned along with JTGILLA ..too late!!!
I Don't get CLowned.I could Care less about U2.Bono ain't met a Hype Camera He couldn't Front on&Around.


in the matter of less then 24 hours youve exposed yourself to be an idiot..look at cha...fumblin and shit..makin up nonsense..what a dumbass...better go and listen to your Exhibit or Lil Wayne cd son...comin up here fakin like you ha some knowledge besides what you READ..and then gonna lie like you been to certain concerts--

Mistermaxx..the new ignorance AND a "gotdamn lie" lol
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Reply #81 posted 11/10/02 3:35pm

mistermaxxx

rdhull said:

PFunkjazz said:

rdhull said:

All your ass knows how to do is bring up some names and read the credits on albums to state your case..lol



hee hee I had kinda noticed that's his style wink
kinda why I read his posts with a grain o'salt :rolleyes:


now hes tryin ot bring this pro black shit against my statements and my precious logo of rebellion lol ..his ass aint seen nobody live..the soul greats (and not so greats ) Ive seen would blow his pants saggin punkass out the water..yeah I said it.
Fuck You&P-FunkJazz you both are a Couple of Loud Mouth Ass Mothers.you don't know who&or what I have seen Live.you don't know a Damn thing about Me&I don't know anything about Your Sorry Ass either.Fuck the Both of you Sorry Ass Bioytchs!!!
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Reply #82 posted 11/10/02 3:37pm

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PFunkjazz said:

rdhull said:

his ass aint seen nobody live.


Think so? I really have no patience for broke-ass, pro-Black radicals who are too cheap to spend a dime on their culture and always bithcn' 'bout "the system" and "the white man". Fuck 'em finger who needs em?


EXACTLY!!!-he aint even seen Clinton live I know this!!! (Although they do play long as sets lol)heres the part where Mistermaxx would pull out his gun cause he got chumped and cant deal...fuickin chump..Mistermaxx-internet shit talker lol..Maxx where u at son--I can do this all day
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Reply #83 posted 11/10/02 3:41pm

mistermaxxx

PFunkjazz said:

rdhull said:

his ass aint seen nobody live.


Think so? I really have no patience for broke-ass, pro-Black radicals who are too cheap to spend a dime on their culture and always bithcn' 'bout "the system" and "the white man". Fuck 'em finger who needs em?
you are a Loud Mouth Bitch! but if you must know I've been a Active member of the NAACP,Down with Panthers,Down with Kwanzza Groups we Celebrate december 26 through Jan 3rd,down with Black Related Books&Groups on Writing&Creativity,strong backer&Supporter of Black Art&it's Artist.you don't even know Me Buster.I've been too Bobby Womack,Earth,Wind&Fire,Jacksons&Michael Solo Shows,Prince,Frankie Beverly&Maze,Rick James,Roger Troutman,Bubbling Brown Sugar Stage show,Miles Davis Concert in 88,&Others.you are a Little Tired Trick like that Loud Mouth Punk Ass Rdhull.Double Bioytchsss!!!
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Reply #84 posted 11/10/02 3:44pm

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mistermaxxx said:

rdhull said:

PFunkjazz said:

rdhull said:

All your ass knows how to do is bring up some names and read the credits on albums to state your case..lol



hee hee I had kinda noticed that's his style wink
kinda why I read his posts with a grain o'salt :rolleyes:


now hes tryin ot bring this pro black shit against my statements and my precious logo of rebellion lol ..his ass aint seen nobody live..the soul greats (and not so greats ) Ive seen would blow his pants saggin punkass out the water..yeah I said it.
Fuck You&P-FunkJazz you both are a Couple of Loud Mouth Ass Mothers.you don't know who&or what I have seen Live.you don't know a Damn thing about Me&I don't know anything about Your Sorry Ass either.Fuck the Both of you Sorry Ass Bioytchs!!!


Did I give your ass permission to reply to me? Did I? Better sit your lil ass gangster wanna be the fuck down..you want me to keep clownin you for days I will..fuckin "wanna be down" like Brandy--followin my ass like Janet did JJ on Goodtimes...stupid ass.
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Reply #85 posted 11/10/02 3:47pm

mistermaxxx

rdhull said:

PFunkjazz said:

rdhull said:

his ass aint seen nobody live.


Think so? I really have no patience for broke-ass, pro-Black radicals who are too cheap to spend a dime on their culture and always bithcn' 'bout "the system" and "the white man". Fuck 'em finger who needs em?


EXACTLY!!!-he aint even seen Clinton live I know this!!! (Although they do play long as sets lol)heres the part where Mistermaxx would pull out his gun cause he got chumped and cant deal...fuickin chump..Mistermaxx-internet shit talker lol..Maxx where u at son--I can do this all day
[This message was edited Sun Nov 10 15:39:07 PST 2002 by rdhull]
back in Houston in the late 70's as a kid.I use too go to Concerts with My Mom back in the day whenever somebody would come too town.I went too a Show with a Older Home Boy& I didn't know there stuff as well as He did but they did a 45 Minute Version of "Flashlight" it was like 2 songs in a 2 Hour set.if you would like I'll give you dates of the Major Acts I saw&Remember the Dates× Asshole.
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Reply #86 posted 11/10/02 3:47pm

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mistermaxxx said:

PFunkjazz said:

rdhull said:

his ass aint seen nobody live.


Think so? I really have no patience for broke-ass, pro-Black radicals who are too cheap to spend a dime on their culture and always bithcn' 'bout "the system" and "the white man". Fuck 'em finger who needs em?
you are a Loud Mouth Bitch! but if you must know I've been a Active member of the NAACP,Down with Panthers,Down with Kwanzza Groups we Celebrate december 26 through Jan 3rd,down with Black Related Books&Groups on Writing&Creativity,strong backer&Supporter of Black Art&it's Artist.you don't even know Me Buster.I've been too Bobby Womack,Earth,Wind&Fire,Jacksons&Michael Solo Shows,Prince,Frankie Beverly&Maze,Rick James,Roger Troutman,Bubbling Brown Sugar Stage show,Miles Davis Concert in 88,&Others.you are a Little Tired Trick like that Loud Mouth Punk Ass Rdhull.Double Bioytchsss!!!


And I bet you got kicked outta everyone of them groups and was tryin to get into those concerts lol --dont even front with your young punkass..I can tell you aint over the age of 20-23..talkin shit like you been down with Roger etc for days...you were justa fuckin zygote when they were in concert--quit trippin..wannabe. BSU is probably all youve ever done..dont trip...again squawk!!"lol:
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Fuck You&P-FunkJazz you both are a Couple of Loud Mouth Ass Mothers.you don't know who&or what I have seen Live.you don't know a Damn thing about Me&I don't know anything about Your Sorry Ass either.Fuck the Both of you Sorry Ass Bioytchs!!!


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Reply #88 posted 11/10/02 3:49pm

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I see you don't know how to debate either, rd. smile Why don't you address mistermaxx's solid points without trying to put him down or guessing that he was lying for some reason. That's just juvenile.

And I've already explained to you what I don't like about U2's music. Somebody else explained it well too- half of an album is pretty good, and the other half is filler. That's their formula. I prefer to listen to complete albums by the really talented songwriters. Now Bono might be a good songwriter for the occasional song (One, With or Without You, Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For, Beautiful Day) but when he fills up an album with quality songs I'll start listening to them again. Their last album was the closest they've come to that, so they are improving. But at least us casual fans have the singles.

As far as having to own everything an artist does to get a full picture of their artistic abilities, some of us are white collar workers that pay bills. I can't afford to buy every David Bowie album in existence. And why should I buy "Boy". Just to see where they came from? Hell no. If I didn't like what I heard from it in the first place, I'm not gonna pay for the crap just so I can spout my so called "educated opinions" on a Prince website all day. Someone asked for my opinion on what they should get, and I told them mine. That's that.

This time instead of cussing me out vehemently, why don't you actually try to dispute the points I'm making? Grow up.
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Reply #89 posted 11/10/02 3:50pm

mistermaxxx

rdhull said:

mistermaxxx said:

rdhull said:

PFunkjazz said:

rdhull said:

All your ass knows how to do is bring up some names and read the credits on albums to state your case..lol



hee hee I had kinda noticed that's his style wink
kinda why I read his posts with a grain o'salt :rolleyes:


now hes tryin ot bring this pro black shit against my statements and my precious logo of rebellion lol ..his ass aint seen nobody live..the soul greats (and not so greats ) Ive seen would blow his pants saggin punkass out the water..yeah I said it.
Fuck You&P-FunkJazz you both are a Couple of Loud Mouth Ass Mothers.you don't know who&or what I have seen Live.you don't know a Damn thing about Me&I don't know anything about Your Sorry Ass either.Fuck the Both of you Sorry Ass Bioytchs!!!


Did I give your ass permission to reply to me? Did I? Better sit your lil ass gangster wanna be the fuck down..you want me to keep clownin you for days I will..fuckin "wanna be down" like Brandy--followin my ass like Janet did JJ on Goodtimes...stupid ass.
yuou ain't SHit lil ole Trick.you can't Clown Nobody.I went too see Michael Jackson with His Brothers December of 84 in Houston&BTW Michael Jackson is Considered too Be one of the Greatest Live Acts Ever Period in Any Era.so Shut the Fuck Up&Sit your Bitch Down!! Michael will Fuck up U2,Rolling Stones&Any of those Chumps you bring Up.
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