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Thread started 04/02/08 1:18pm

TonyVanDam

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18 #1 Hit Singles, Mariah Ties In 2nd Place With Elvis (Needs 2 More To Tie With The Beatles)

SIDENOTE: Regardless if you're a Mariah-fan or not, you have to admit this artist is a great talent for having 18 #1 hits.

http://new.music.yahoo.co...s-the-news

Week Ending March 30, 2008: Roll Over Elvis (And Tell The Beatles The News)
Posted 59 minutes ago by Paul Grein in Chart Watch


Mariah Carey's "Touch My Body" debuts at #1 on the Hot Digital Songs chart and is set to jump to #1 on Billboard's Hot 100 chart, which will be finalized on Thursday. This will be Carey's 18th #1 single, which will put her in a tie with Elvis Presley for second place among artists with the most #1 singles in the rock era (1955 to the present). Only the Beatles have had more. They scored 20.
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Reply #1 posted 04/02/08 1:34pm

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No, she surpassed Elvis. She tied him in '05 with "Don't Forget About Us." She's now in second place all by herself.
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Reply #2 posted 04/02/08 1:41pm

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musicjunky318 said:

No, she surpassed Elvis. She tied him in '05 with "Don't Forget About Us." She's now in second place all by herself.


Don't blame me for bad info. Blame Paul Grein's reporting.
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Reply #3 posted 04/02/08 1:43pm

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18 #1 Hit Singles, Mariah Ties In 2nd Place With Elvis (Needs 2 More To Tie With The Beatles)


Now the question is "Will Island records buy two more number one singles?"....Oh, I mean, will her "fans".

I stayed away from the main Mariah thread but couldn't resist this one...Good her her, though. I don't hate this one has much as the last few, actually. And the video is kind of fun.
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Reply #4 posted 04/02/08 3:34pm

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TonyVanDam said:

musicjunky318 said:

No, she surpassed Elvis. She tied him in '05 with "Don't Forget About Us." She's now in second place all by herself.


Don't blame me for bad info. Blame Paul Grein's reporting.


Oh no it's not you, I just hate how a lot of media outlets are so unprofessional sometimes. I just finished reading an article that said Madonna began her career in 1992. dead
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Reply #5 posted 04/02/08 3:39pm

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TonyVanDam said:

SIDENOTE: Regardless if you're a Mariah-fan or not, you have to admit this artist is a great talent for having 18 #1 hits.


Not really. I'm not saying Mariah has no talent, but having a number of #1 hits doesn't prove anything other than popularity.
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Reply #6 posted 04/02/08 4:04pm

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TonyVanDam said:

musicjunky318 said:

No, she surpassed Elvis. She tied him in '05 with "Don't Forget About Us." She's now in second place all by herself.


Don't blame me for bad info. Blame Paul Grein's reporting.



No actually it is a tie, there are alot of conflicting articles and it seems there is an error somewhere. Joel Whitburn's BillBoard Book of Top 40 hits and chart lists shows ELVIS having 18 number ones, he is listed as Number 2 behind the Beatles with 20. His 18th hit coming well after his Peak in the 50's, it was the late 60's number one "suspicious minds", so not really sure what is going on, but his number ones are clearly listed as are hers now and they both have 18, not taking it away from her, because im sure she'll have another number one on this album with the same kind of marketing/exposure strategy that exists now, but you would think Mariahs universal camp would have checked into this.

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"Touch My Body" was #1? confused
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Reply #8 posted 04/02/08 4:19pm

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bboy87 said:

"Touch My Body" was #1? confused


#1 on Billboards (USA) Hot 100 Singles Chart
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Reply #9 posted 04/02/08 4:23pm

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TonyVanDam said:

SIDENOTE: Regardless if you're a Mariah-fan or not, you have to admit this artist is a great talent for having 18 #1 hits.



LOL..how is she a "GREAT TALENT" cuz she has 18 #1's

ROTLF!
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LoveAlive said:

TonyVanDam said:

SIDENOTE: Regardless if you're a Mariah-fan or not, you have to admit this artist is a great talent for having 18 #1 hits.



LOL..how is she a "GREAT TALENT" cuz she has 18 #1's

ROTLF!


@ LoveAlive & Moonbeam.....Instead of saying "talent", I should have said Mariah is gifted. It's very difficult for anyone to come up with a #1 hit, let alone 18 of them..
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LoveAlive

TonyVanDam said:

LoveAlive said:




LOL..how is she a "GREAT TALENT" cuz she has 18 #1's

ROTLF!


@ LoveAlive & Moonbeam.....Instead of saying "talent", I should have said Mariah is gifted. It's very difficult for anyone to come up with a #1 hit, let alone 18 of them..
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its not that serious man/..

honestly, I dont care that much about Mariah and her(or anyone else's) #1's to continue dialoguing on this..
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TonyVanDam said:

bboy87 said:

"Touch My Body" was #1? confused


#1 on Billboards (USA) Hot 100 Singles Chart

It didn't know it was even popular eek
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lastdecember said:

TonyVanDam said:



Don't blame me for bad info. Blame Paul Grein's reporting.



No actually it is a tie, there are alot of conflicting articles and it seems there is an error somewhere. Joel Whitburn's BillBoard Book of Top 40 hits and chart lists shows ELVIS having 18 number ones, he is listed as Number 2 behind the Beatles with 20. His 18th hit coming well after his Peak in the 50's, it was the late 60's number one "suspicious minds", so not really sure what is going on, but his number ones are clearly listed as are hers now and they both have 18, not taking it away from her, because im sure she'll have another number one on this album with the same kind of marketing/exposure strategy that exists now, but you would think Mariahs universal camp would have checked into this.


No actually it isn't a tie. She just broke it. They were tied before with "Don't Forget About Us." I suggest you to read this article. wink


http://www.billboard.com/...1001736670
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Congrats Mariah! She would have passed Elvis a loong time ago had she not suffer a breakdown a few years ago (the Glitter album had a couple of surefire hits if it was promoted well) but she has definitely bounced back from that and we'll definitely see a couple more #1 hits in her new album 2 tie if not exceed The Beatles' record!
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Congrats to Mariah for her latest chart accomplishment. woot! music Though apparently not all share the same sentiment. rolleyes hrmph sigh

http://www.huffingtonpost...94762.html

"Mariah Carey Surpasses Elvis - But The Context Is Missing
by Tom Alderman

The AP runs a story announcing to the world that Mariah Carey has surpassed Elvis for the most sold No. 1 singles on the Billboard Chart, and is now second only to the Beatles in single sales. Big. And statistically correct. But statistics, like everything, should be viewed in context.

Ms. Carey is appropriately humbled. The AP story says Ms. Carey is gratified not only because of her personal success, but what it meant for women and minorities. "That's a completely different era and time. I'm just feeling really happy and grateful," she said.

She certainly is justified feeling grateful but it's less about women and minorities and more about technology and distribution. It was a completely different era. Elvis and the Beatles sold their music in the mostly vinyl 45 & LP era where customers schlepped through city streets and malls to stores called Tower, Rose and Goody. Tower Records doesn't have stores anymore. Rose is gone and Sam Goody has no New York or Chicago location and its only Southern California outlet is in San Diego, California's second largest city.

Ms. Carey's time is the steroidal, digital download era where music is just a 99 cent click away, in-between meetings at the office. Digital downloads have created a tsunamical change in the music business. It's a given that many more record sales will be eclipsed in the download era. Ms. Carey can be proud she is among the first to demonstrate the power of digital sales. But to imply she's in the Elvis and Beatles sales league is like comparing Barry Bonds to Hank Aaron. Billboard might want to accompany Ms. Carey's success with an asterisk.

The AP bears responsibility here. One guess is the Carey PR people were the propellant behind this news story and the AP's Music Writer, Nekesa Mumbi Moody, ran with it without doing what lawyers call due diligence. Reporters are supposed to have well-honed critical thinking skills - assume nothing, question everything. Where Ms. Mumbi erred is leaving out that all important ingredient in a news story called context. Context is the 'when' part of journalisms roadmap to Who? What? Why? Where? and WHEN?"



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Reply #16 posted 04/02/08 7:56pm

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I used to think that was cool and all until she got a big head about it with don't forget about us when she made herself a number 1 cake before it headed there and all this stuff, and promotes her music to her fans by practically saying "if you buy so and so I will be number 1"
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728huey said:

Congrats to Mariah for her latest chart accomplishment. woot! music Though apparently not all share the same sentiment. rolleyes hrmph sigh

http://www.huffingtonpost...94762.html

"Mariah Carey Surpasses Elvis - But The Context Is Missing
by Tom Alderman

The AP runs a story announcing to the world that Mariah Carey has surpassed Elvis for the most sold No. 1 singles on the Billboard Chart, and is now second only to the Beatles in single sales. Big. And statistically correct. But statistics, like everything, should be viewed in context.

Ms. Carey is appropriately humbled. The AP story says Ms. Carey is gratified not only because of her personal success, but what it meant for women and minorities. "That's a completely different era and time. I'm just feeling really happy and grateful," she said.

She certainly is justified feeling grateful but it's less about women and minorities and more about technology and distribution. It was a completely different era. Elvis and the Beatles sold their music in the mostly vinyl 45 & LP era where customers schlepped through city streets and malls to stores called Tower, Rose and Goody. Tower Records doesn't have stores anymore. Rose is gone and Sam Goody has no New York or Chicago location and its only Southern California outlet is in San Diego, California's second largest city.

Ms. Carey's time is the steroidal, digital download era where music is just a 99 cent click away, in-between meetings at the office. Digital downloads have created a tsunamical change in the music business. It's a given that many more record sales will be eclipsed in the download era. Ms. Carey can be proud she is among the first to demonstrate the power of digital sales. But to imply she's in the Elvis and Beatles sales league is like comparing Barry Bonds to Hank Aaron. Billboard might want to accompany Ms. Carey's success with an asterisk.

The AP bears responsibility here. One guess is the Carey PR people were the propellant behind this news story and the AP's Music Writer, Nekesa Mumbi Moody, ran with it without doing what lawyers call due diligence. Reporters are supposed to have well-honed critical thinking skills - assume nothing, question everything. Where Ms. Mumbi erred is leaving out that all important ingredient in a news story called context. Context is the 'when' part of journalisms roadmap to Who? What? Why? Where? and WHEN?"



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A #1 is a #1. It's even more competitive now when there are more artists competing for the top spot and listeners can be very fickle these days. So, ongrats to Mariah Carey and here's to many more #1 singles to come!! smile
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Reply #18 posted 04/03/08 7:39am

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is this world #1's or US #1's?

WHo has the record for world #1's?
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paisleypark4 said:

is this world #1's or US #1's?

WHo has the record for world #1's?


This is another U.S. #1.

And Madonna has the most #1's on the United World Chart with 12.
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Reply #20 posted 04/03/08 8:40am

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Actually, it has less to do with where people buy the singles and how the historical records are compiled.

Elvis' record includes #1 singles from the pre-Hot 100 days, when there were a few different Billboard charts floating around, all of which have been condensed for the history books.
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Reply #21 posted 04/08/08 11:12am

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It sounds just like Shake It Off confused
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Reply #22 posted 04/08/08 12:05pm

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Not to rob Mariah of this title but there was a lot of 'shady' going on in the marketing of her records. I worked music retail in the mid-90's and I remember we sale priced her singles at $.49 when they came out first week so that it would propel her single up the charts...'Fantasy', 'One Sweet Day' thru the RAINBOW singles we did this...Sony also did this with Jennifer Lopez, Celine, Ricky Martin...most of their big artists. It was around 1999 when Neilson changed the rules of the game and a song would move up or down the charts mainly due to radio play and about 30% singles sales...that way no matter how cheap the single was..it would still have to comptete.

Granted most of those songs were big radio songs and among her most memoriable but..they did recieve that extra 'push' that other artists did not get.
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Reply #23 posted 04/09/08 4:33am

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VANITYSprisonBYTCH said:

Not to rob Mariah of this title but there was a lot of 'shady' going on in the marketing of her records. I worked music retail in the mid-90's and I remember we sale priced her singles at $.49 when they came out first week so that it would propel her single up the charts...'Fantasy', 'One Sweet Day' thru the RAINBOW singles we did this...Sony also did this with Jennifer Lopez, Celine, Ricky Martin...most of their big artists. It was around 1999 when Neilson changed the rules of the game and a song would move up or down the charts mainly due to radio play and about 30% singles sales...that way no matter how cheap the single was..it would still have to comptete.

Granted most of those songs were big radio songs and among her most memoriable but..they did recieve that extra 'push' that other artists did not get.


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