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Thread started 04/03/08 2:47am

Sander

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What's the oldest music you have in your collection?

Please state the year it was (originally) released or recorded.

Mine:
1) Louis Armstrong - compilation album Fireworks: recorded 1928
2) Various - New orleans Jazz: throughout the 1930s
3) Robert Johnson - Complete recordings: 1936/1937

1)
2)
3)


ps. Thanks raveun2thejoyfantastic for the inspiration... razz
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Reply #1 posted 04/03/08 6:02am

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Hmm, I think you have me beat.

The only thing I have that comes close to that is some Django Reinhardt from the 30s.

That Louis Armstrong sound quality must be hard to take. I love Django's guitar but I find even that distorted fuzzy low quality recording to be grating at times.
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Reply #2 posted 04/03/08 6:24am

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I've got some of Bach's Brandenberg concertos from 1721, but I'd guess my oldest stuff is global traditional music and medieval ecclessial/court stuff from God knows when.
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Reply #3 posted 04/03/08 6:27am

RipHer2Shreds

Sander said:

3) Robert Johnson - Complete recordings: 1936/1937

3)

That might be my oldest.
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Reply #4 posted 04/03/08 6:36am

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Erroll Garner - Concert By The Sea (1955)
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Reply #5 posted 04/03/08 6:44am

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probably this box set of '50s rockabilly/psychobilly gems, and i'm guessing i also have some johnny cash music that dates around this time as well.

i've been listening to a song called "heartache" by the ed weems orchestra a lot lately. it sounds a million years old. i should figure out exactly when it was recorded...
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Reply #6 posted 04/03/08 6:49am

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Sander said:

Please state the year it was (originally) released or recorded.

Mine:
1) Louis Armstrong - compilation album Fireworks: recorded 1928
2) Various - New orleans Jazz: throughout the 1930s
3) Robert Johnson - Complete recordings: 1936/1937

1)
2)
3)

that is nice that you have new orleans jazz from the 30's that's worth a pretty penny or dime biggrin
ps. Thanks raveun2thejoyfantastic for the inspiration... razz
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Reply #7 posted 04/03/08 7:14am

HamsterHuey

Sander said:

Louis Armstrong - recorded 1928


I got Hot Five recordings from 1925. mushy

I got into him in through the Color Purple soundtrack, which features My Heart (Will Always Lead Me Back to You). I loved the old jook joint jazz over the later day smooth jazz he played, so I searched for his older stuff. Still play it lots. (PS also check out the jook joint inspired The Dirty Dozens by Tata Vega, love it. What ever happened to Tata Vega?)
I also got alot of Bix Beidebecke, Mills Borthers and Django Reinhardt from the 30's and 40's.

Loads of Dinah Shore, Kay Starr and Benny Goodman.

And a whole lotta 20's, 30's, 40's and 50's Dutch language songs. Jordaneze meebrallers.
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Reply #8 posted 04/03/08 7:17am

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Lets have Another Cup Of Coffee by Glenn Miller. (30's I think).
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Reply #9 posted 04/03/08 7:22am

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I used to have a bunch of '30s blues, '20s jazz and classical (and probably still do, somewhere). These days, the oldest things I listen to would probably be Bob Wills' version of "Don't Be Ashamed of Your Age" and some '50s rock 'n' roll ("Too Much Monkey Business"; Jerry Lee Lewis; etc.).
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Reply #10 posted 04/03/08 7:23am

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savoirfaire said:

That Louis Armstrong sound quality must be hard to take. I love Django's guitar but I find even that distorted fuzzy low quality recording to be grating at times.


At times it's pretty harsch on the ears. But like most bootlegs, when you got used to the quality, the worse it sounds the more precious it gets. At least with Louis, this is the way it was meant to sound like. However, I don't play it when people are over... smile
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Reply #11 posted 04/03/08 7:27am

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Lammastide said:

I've got some of Bach's Brandenberg concertos from 1721, but I'd guess my oldest stuff is global traditional music and medieval ecclessial/court stuff from God knows when.


I was thinking about excluding classical music, but then again, I also wonder how many orgers have classical in their collection.

Medieval music isn't credited to anyone by name is it? I guess it's nice to hear music evolve, since medieval music doesn't have any chords in them, only singlenotes and melodies... Why do you own this music, what does it do for you?
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Reply #12 posted 04/03/08 7:27am

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Benny Goodman's 1938 concert at Carnegie Hall.

I also have a bunch of Scott Joplin, George Gershwin, Glenn Miller and Tommy Dorsey.

Of course, a lot of my classical music was originally recorded even earlier.

And don't get my started on my film collection.
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Reply #13 posted 04/03/08 7:30am

Harlepolis

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Erroll Garner - Concert By The Sea (1955)


Wow,,,thats his BEST love Ooowww Cinnie sexy batting eyes

I would say all the blues cuts in the 20's from Alberta Hunter, Bessie Smith, Ada Brown. Beside Duke Ellington's early recordings from the Cotton Club broadcasts, and not to mention the early stride piano sessions from James P. Johnson, Willie "The Lion" Smith, Art Tatum and Fats Waller(I think his earliest were organ sessions with other blues vocalists).
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Reply #14 posted 04/03/08 7:34am

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purplebutterfly2 said:

Sander said:

(...)
2) Various - New orleans Jazz: throughout the 1930s
2)

that is nice that you have new orleans jazz from the 30's that's worth a pretty penny or dime biggrin



It wasn't that expensive actually. And when I was looking for the accompanying picture I found out it was even cheaper now than when I bought it!

Here it is:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/N...089&sr=1-1
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Reply #15 posted 04/03/08 7:38am

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A whole bunch of classical music. For one, I have the complete Beethoven Symphonies #1-9. smile
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Reply #16 posted 04/03/08 7:43am

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Reply #17 posted 04/03/08 7:44am

Sander

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paisleypark4 said:

Lets have Another Cup Of Coffee by Glenn Miller. (30's I think).

Yeah! coffee
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Reply #18 posted 04/03/08 7:47am

Harlepolis

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I enjoy his early stuff with Earl Hines nod

West End Blues touched
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Reply #19 posted 04/03/08 7:49am

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HamsterHuey said:

Sander said:

Louis Armstrong - recorded 1928


I got Hot Five recordings from 1925. mushy

I got into him in through the Color Purple soundtrack, which features My Heart (Will Always Lead Me Back to You). I loved the old jook joint jazz over the later day smooth jazz he played, so I searched for his older stuff. Still play it lots. (PS also check out the jook joint inspired The Dirty Dozens by Tata Vega, love it. What ever happened to Tata Vega?)
I also got alot of Bix Beidebecke, Mills Borthers and Django Reinhardt from the 30's and 40's.

Loads of Dinah Shore, Kay Starr and Benny Goodman.

And a whole lotta 20's, 30's, 40's and 50's Dutch language songs. Jordaneze meebrallers.
[Edited 4/3/08 7:17am]


You got me by three years! Bastard! lol Color purple OST got some great music! Nice one. Dirty dozen, they played in your town about two weeks ago! I couldn't go, since I was abroad, but did you?

Bix beiderbecke, Benny Goodman, no wonder I keep bumping into you at the best shows in town! However you do freak me out with that Jordaneze meebrallers... whofarted
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Harlepolis said:

forkupine said:



I enjoy his early stuff with Earl Hines nod

West End Blues touched
[Edited 4/3/08 7:48am]


I love Weather Bird with Earl Hines.

The track-by-track annotations in this box set really made me listen attentively.
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Reply #21 posted 04/03/08 7:55am

Harlepolis

forkupine said:

Harlepolis said:



I enjoy his early stuff with Earl Hines nod

West End Blues touched
[Edited 4/3/08 7:48am]


I love Weather Bird with Earl Hines.

The track-by-track annotations in this box set really made me listen attentively.


I'm thinking about getting that boxet,,,,,for free razz lol
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Reply #22 posted 04/03/08 8:12am

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Sander said:

Lammastide said:

I've got some of Bach's Brandenberg concertos from 1721, but I'd guess my oldest stuff is global traditional music and medieval ecclessial/court stuff from God knows when.


I was thinking about excluding classical music, but then again, I also wonder how many orgers have classical in their collection.

Medieval music isn't credited to anyone by name is it? I guess it's nice to hear music evolve, since medieval music doesn't have any chords in them, only singlenotes and melodies... Why do you own this music, what does it do for you?

Yeah, most of the "ancient" stuff I have isn't credited to single writers so much as to the traditional fare of a given country, ethnicity, etc. Or, in the case of ecclessial stuff, to a particular religious order. I don't have a lot of it, but it interests me, and I'd like to explore more.

What does it do for me? hmmm Tough one to articulate. Without waxing too philosophical (and cheesy... and boring), I suppose it does the same for me as any work of beauty -- it allows me to bask a bit in creation, in this gift of wonderful sights, sounds, textures, etc. we've been given. The antiquity of certain pieces offers a look at what inspired folk at a given time that I, too, might find inspiration. Kinda like gleaning wisdom from a living great-grandparent. Just imagine if we only had access to music made within, say, the last 10-15 years! shakebawlill
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #23 posted 04/03/08 8:19am

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If you were looking for the earliest actual recordings we own, though, Sander, mine would probably be a compilation of Louis Armstrong/King Oliver sessions from 1923.

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μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
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Reply #24 posted 04/03/08 8:27am

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Lammastide said:


What does it do for me? hmmm Tough one to articulate. Without waxing too philosophical (and cheesy... and boring), I suppose it does the same for me as any work of beauty -- it allows me to bask a bit in creation, in this gift of wonderful sights, sounds, textures, etc. we've been given. The antiquity of certain pieces offers a look at what inspired folk at a given time that I, too, might find inspiration. Kinda like gleaning wisdom from a living great-grandparent. Just imagine if we only had access to music made within, say, the last 10-15 years! shakebawlill


A window to our history. Nice, I couldn't really get into it, while I enjoy the age of it and it being preserved. Nice to hear that you find inspiration/beauty in it.

Modern music seems to be out of innovation, or only very slight ones. If we only had music of the last 10-15 years, artists and musicians would probably be a lot more creative than they are now. New genres would/could emerge. It would be all new and sensational.
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Reply #25 posted 04/03/08 8:33am

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Sander said:



Modern music seems to be out of innovation, or only very slight ones. If we only had music of the last 10-15 years, artists and musicians would probably be a lot more creative than they are now. New genres would/could emerge. It would be all new and sensational.

So you take a view opposite of me. I think we can draw on things of old to build upon and remedy the monotony and thoughtlessness of modern art. You are suggesting that by relying too heavily on the things of old, we rob ourselves of true innovation.

hmmm

Interesting take. I can't argue with that. I do think we too often misunderstand what it is to be inspired by existing work. Rather than to simply be informed, we rape and copy... and often poorly.
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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
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τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #26 posted 04/03/08 8:39am

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Gregorian chants...Elizabethan consort music...and some stuff from the 14th century...
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Reply #27 posted 04/03/08 8:40am

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I have some classical CDs, but I'm sure they were all recorded fairly recently. It's not like anyone was around to record those pieces when they were first written and performed.

So that means the oldest recording in my collection is probably...


The Verve Story (box set)

Disc 1 is 1944-1953.
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Reply #28 posted 04/03/08 8:46am

Sander

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Lammastide said:

You are suggesting that by relying too heavily on the things of old, we rob ourselves of true innovation.


lol That was what I said. I phrased it a little strange though. What I wanted to say was that I would have loved to witness the birth of popmusic, a lot of possibilities and new directions to chose from. Exciting times.


Interesting take. I can't argue with that. I do think we too often misunderstand what it is to be inspired by existing work. Rather than to simply be informed, we rape and copy... and often poorly.


I do enjoy these postmodern times as well though. All the music that is already here and is ready to be used again to make something new. That can be innovative as well. Music is long but dead and each year I find new artists and albums that I love.
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Reply #29 posted 04/03/08 9:20am

Cinnie

Harlepolis said:

Cinnie said:

Erroll Garner - Concert By The Sea (1955)


Wow,,,thats his BEST love Ooowww Cinnie sexy batting eyes


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