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Reply #30 posted 03/28/08 10:42am

Empress

Cinnie said:

Empress said:



duh
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I apologize; I was a bit harsh.


No need Cinnie. It's all good. smile
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Reply #31 posted 03/28/08 10:59am

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PFunkjazz said:

vainandy said:



I definately miss the 1980s sound but you just listed some of the worst songs of the decade. Those are the type of songs that slowed R&B down, ruined it, took all rhythm and ass shake appeal out, and opened the door for the slow dull 1990s and today.



That's debatable. There's certainly nothing wrong with slowing down r&b for a lovesong or ballad. That's always been a hallmark of the genre; going way back into 50s and 60s. I somewhat agree that the sound was too pop crossover at time and I really don't play that stuff much nowadays. Still, I kept the records and don't mind too much when they get played

As per what ruined things in the 80s (besides hiphop). THat goes to those horrifying gay and stiff Eurotrash from Culture Club, Pet Shop Boys, Fine Young Cannibals ABC and other fake soul crap. That migh be mid80s, but I DESPISE THAT SHIT MORE THAN HIP_HOP.


The groups I listed made slow jams also but they were good slow jams, the bedroom type. None of that dull adult contemporary type stuff that peoples' parents could get into. They also made fast jams too, something that the artists in the original post made very little of, if any.

Music should be made for either the dick or the ass. Bedroom jams for the dick and dance floor jams for the ass. If a song doesn't fit either of these purposes, it serves no purpose and shouldn't be made. lol
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Reply #32 posted 03/28/08 11:17am

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eek

IMO, in terms of sound & production this was prolly the worst era 4 Soul & R&B.


same here
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Reply #33 posted 03/28/08 11:33am

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vainandy said:



The groups I listed made slow jams also but they were good slow jams, the bedroom type. None of that dull adult contemporary type stuff that peoples' parents could get into. They also made fast jams too, something that the artists in the original post made very little of, if any.

Music should be made for either the dick or the ass. Bedroom jams for the dick and dance floor jams for the ass. If a song doesn't fit either of these purposes, it serves no purpose and shouldn't be made. lol



HA! you're funny; in a very very gay way. lol
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Reply #34 posted 03/28/08 12:28pm

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PFunkjazz said:

vainandy said:



The groups I listed made slow jams also but they were good slow jams, the bedroom type. None of that dull adult contemporary type stuff that peoples' parents could get into. They also made fast jams too, something that the artists in the original post made very little of, if any.

Music should be made for either the dick or the ass. Bedroom jams for the dick and dance floor jams for the ass. If a song doesn't fit either of these purposes, it serves no purpose and shouldn't be made. lol



HA! you're funny; in a very very gay way. lol


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Reply #35 posted 03/28/08 1:38pm

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PFunkjazz said:

vainandy said:



The groups I listed made slow jams also but they were good slow jams, the bedroom type. None of that dull adult contemporary type stuff that peoples' parents could get into. They also made fast jams too, something that the artists in the original post made very little of, if any.

Music should be made for either the dick or the ass. Bedroom jams for the dick and dance floor jams for the ass. If a song doesn't fit either of these purposes, it serves no purpose and shouldn't be made. lol



HA! you're funny; in a very very gay way. lol


I certainly hope so. lol
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Reply #36 posted 03/28/08 2:53pm

alphastreet

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Here I am. I opened up the thread, saw that list, and almost died. The only person missing was Freddie Jackson and I think all the artists that I can't stand would have been listed. lol
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I have to admit I agree with you. Aside from Peabo and Stephanie Mills, I wasn't feeling much of them at all. The 80's is so much more exciting than those ballads, and though I love ballads and appreciate them, the music was produced in such a way that the melodies were second priority and I couldn't sing along to them. That's not to say I'm shunning 80's r&b completely, I could sing along to Muscles, Between the Sheets, and many others, but I wasn't feeling much of these. Even your girl Shitney moves me more, and she doesn't always have emotion although she inspires me vocally on a technical level only.
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Reply #37 posted 03/28/08 4:22pm

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Cinnie said:

SoulAlive said:

played by real instruments and not dominated by programmed synths and drum machines.


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Damn you Prince!!

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no no no!



Damn you Art Of Noise!!! lol
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Reply #38 posted 03/28/08 4:26pm

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neoretro7 said:

R&B music in the 80's I believe was out of this world.The music was part synthesized but at the same time there were real instruments. We had good artists like Anita Baker, Sade, Regina Belle, Stephanie Mills, Peabo Bryson, Billy Ocean and so on.

I don't think R&B is dead it is just that people refuse to sing like these singers did back then.

R&B hits back in the 80's

Whitney Houston- Greatest Love Of All
James Ingram- Just Once
Anita Baker- Sweet Love
Sade- Cherish
Regina Belle- Baby Come To Me
Peabo Bryson- If Ever In My Arms Again
Stephanie Mills- Home
Miki Howard- Love Under New Management
Angela Winbush- Angel
Billy Ocean- Love Zone


Do you guys miss it


I miss Billy Ocean & Sade, but not the songs you mention.
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Reply #39 posted 03/28/08 7:00pm

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neoretro7 said:

R&B music in the 80's I believe was out of this world.The music was part synthesized but at the same time there were real instruments. We had good artists like Anita Baker, Sade, Regina Belle, Stephanie Mills, Peabo Bryson, Billy Ocean and so on.

I don't think R&B is dead it is just that people refuse to sing like these singers did back then.

R&B hits back in the 80's

Whitney Houston- Greatest Love Of All
James Ingram- Just Once
Anita Baker- Sweet Love
Sade- Cherish
Regina Belle- Baby Come To Me
Peabo Bryson- If Ever In My Arms Again
Stephanie Mills- Home
Miki Howard- Love Under New Management
Angela Winbush- Angel
Billy Ocean- Love Zone


Do you guys miss it


eek I love the Stephanie Mills version of "Home". She should have been Dorothy in "The Wiz". I hated Diana Ross in that film.
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Reply #40 posted 03/28/08 11:40pm

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I miss the sound of real 70s soul...
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Reply #41 posted 03/28/08 11:42pm

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I do. But moreso the early 90s R&B.
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Reply #42 posted 03/28/08 11:49pm

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neoretro7 said:

R&B music in the 80's I believe was out of this world.The music was part synthesized but at the same time there were real instruments. We had good artists like Anita Baker, Sade, Regina Belle, Stephanie Mills, Peabo Bryson, Billy Ocean and so on.

I don't think R&B is dead it is just that people refuse to sing like these singers did back then.

R&B hits back in the 80's

Whitney Houston- Greatest Love Of All
James Ingram- Just Once
Anita Baker- Sweet Love
Sade- Cherish
Regina Belle- Baby Come To Me
Peabo Bryson- If Ever In My Arms Again
Stephanie Mills- Home
Miki Howard- Love Under New Management
Angela Winbush- Angel
Billy Ocean- Love Zone


Do you guys miss it

ill feeling ill

Dude, the overproduced clichéd MOR crap you just listed is some of the most boring, insipid 'music' ever made lol
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Reply #43 posted 03/29/08 2:50pm

Cinnie

TonyVanDam said:

Cinnie said:



:shakes fist:

Damn you Prince!!

wink


no no no!



Damn you Art Of Noise!!! lol

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Reply #44 posted 03/29/08 3:17pm

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

I miss the sound of real 70s soul...
sigh



i wassent around in that time but i wished people would start to make music like that again biggrin i love 70s soul
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Reply #45 posted 03/29/08 5:39pm

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i agree early 80z was cool..
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Reply #46 posted 03/30/08 1:53am

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PFunkjazz said:

vainandy said:



I definately miss the 1980s sound but you just listed some of the worst songs of the decade. Those are the type of songs that slowed R&B down, ruined it, took all rhythm and ass shake appeal out, and opened the door for the slow dull 1990s and today.



That's debatable. There's certainly nothing wrong with slowing down r&b for a lovesong or ballad. That's always been a hallmark of the genre; going way back into 50s and 60s. I somewhat agree that the sound was too pop crossover at time and I really don't play that stuff much nowadays. Still, I kept the records and don't mind too much when they get played

As per what ruined things in the 80s (besides hiphop). THat goes to those horrifying gay and stiff Eurotrash from Culture Club, Pet Shop Boys, Fine Young Cannibals ABC and other fake soul crap. That migh be mid80s, but I DESPISE THAT SHIT MORE THAN HIP_HOP.


no no no! Sir, those comments reflect you treading on shaky ground. Those New Wave groups did a great job with their soul influences in the 80's.
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Reply #47 posted 03/30/08 4:51am

Ottensen

I might have to ponder this for a minute, but on first impulse I think I probably miss songs from the first half of the 80's hmmm After '86 things started getting a little shakey bakey after that...
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Reply #48 posted 03/30/08 5:32am

Flowerz

i miss some of it .. Anita Baker, Cameo, SOS Band
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Reply #49 posted 03/30/08 10:46am

Ottensen

Flowerz said:

i miss some of it .. Anita Baker, Cameo, SOS Band



I liked them alot. Then I remember going to really great concerts as a young teen in the early 80's like Midnight Starr, Atlantic Starr, ect. They were excellent groups....I'm stll thinking of who else I liked...my memory is a little off today lol . But I remember music being such a huge part of home and school life, there really are a lot of groups that take me straight back to happy times being age 12 or 14 or so cool
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Reply #50 posted 03/31/08 3:42am

SoulAlive

NWF said:

PFunkjazz said:



That's debatable. There's certainly nothing wrong with slowing down r&b for a lovesong or ballad. That's always been a hallmark of the genre; going way back into 50s and 60s. I somewhat agree that the sound was too pop crossover at time and I really don't play that stuff much nowadays. Still, I kept the records and don't mind too much when they get played

As per what ruined things in the 80s (besides hiphop). THat goes to those horrifying gay and stiff Eurotrash from Culture Club, Pet Shop Boys, Fine Young Cannibals ABC and other fake soul crap. That migh be mid80s, but I DESPISE THAT SHIT MORE THAN HIP_HOP.


no no no! Sir, those comments reflect you treading on shaky ground. Those New Wave groups did a great job with their soul influences in the 80's.


I like bands like ABC and Culture Club boxed
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Reply #51 posted 03/31/08 3:43am

SoulAlive

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I might have to ponder this for a minute, but on first impulse I think I probably miss songs from the first half of the 80's hmmm After '86 things started getting a little shakey bakey after that...


I agree,things went downhill after 1985.By then,rap was taking over,soon to be followed by New Jack Swing confused That's why I prefer early 80s R&B.
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Reply #52 posted 03/31/08 7:27am

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I love the singers of the 1980s, but I didnt like the mid80's - early 90's production of all keyboards and loops.
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Reply #53 posted 03/31/08 12:15pm

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R&B music in the 80's I believe was out of this world.The music was part synthesized but at the same time there were real instruments. We had good artists like Anita Baker, Sade, Regina Belle, Stephanie Mills, Peabo Bryson, Billy Ocean and so on.

I don't think R&B is dead it is just that people refuse to sing like these singers did back then.

R&B hits back in the 80's

Whitney Houston- Greatest Love Of All
James Ingram- Just Once
Anita Baker- Sweet Love
Sade- Cherish
Regina Belle- Baby Come To Me
Peabo Bryson- If Ever In My Arms Again
Stephanie Mills- Home
Miki Howard- Love Under New Management
Angela Winbush- Angel
Billy Ocean- Love Zone


Do you guys miss it

I miss R&B period but this list is pretty weak.
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Reply #54 posted 03/31/08 11:14pm

purpledusk971

that's my favourite musical era, I miss music from the 80s so much, today's music is a nightmare for me!
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Reply #55 posted 04/01/08 7:43am

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SoulAlive said:

Ottensen said:

I might have to ponder this for a minute, but on first impulse I think I probably miss songs from the first half of the 80's hmmm After '86 things started getting a little shakey bakey after that...


I agree,things went downhill after 1985.By then,rap was taking over,soon to be followed by New Jack Swing confused That's why I prefer early 80s R&B.


Adult contemporary is what was taking over. There were a few artists jamming in the late 1980s like Ready For The World, The Jets, Jesse Johnson, Jody Watley, Trinere, The Bronner Brothers, etc. However, the adult contempary shit like Shitney Houston, Anita Baker, Freddie Jackson, Mikki Howard, Regina Belle, etc. was getting far more airplay and things were becoming extremely dull.

As for the rap of the 1980s, actually, a lot of it was faster than the scarce funk at the time. There were folks like The Egyptian Lover, LA Dream Team, Gigolo Tony, 2 Live Crew, Afro Rican, Freestyle, etc. who were shaking the asses just as hard as the funk acts during that time and getting airplay on mainstream R&B stations.

Unfortunately, there was a much slower tempo much duller rap brewing underground. I remember the only Salt and Pepa song played on our local mainstream R&B stations at the time was "Push It" and I can see why. Everything else didn't really sound good enough to be played alongside and fit in with the funk at the time except for "Push It". There were a ton of rap groups that were underground in the late 1980s that I used to hear on one of our stations that played a mix on Saturday afternoons which was 30 minutes of rap and 30 minutes of house music (which was underground also). I would tune in for the house and fast rap. However, sometimes they would get stuck on that boring ass slow rap and wouldn't get off it. The shit hop that took over in the 1990s sounded like that underground rap of the late 1980s....the type that was too slow and dull to fit in with the funk on the mainstream R&B stations.
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Reply #56 posted 04/04/08 1:15am

LittleAmy

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R&B music in the 80's I believe was out of this world.The music was part synthesized but at the same time there were real instruments. We had good artists like Anita Baker, Sade, Regina Belle, Stephanie Mills, Peabo Bryson, Billy Ocean and so on.

I don't think R&B is dead it is just that people refuse to sing like these singers did back then.

R&B hits back in the 80's

Whitney Houston- Greatest Love Of All
James Ingram- Just Once
Anita Baker- Sweet Love
Sade- Cherish
Regina Belle- Baby Come To Me
Peabo Bryson- If Ever In My Arms Again
Stephanie Mills- Home
Miki Howard- Love Under New Management
Angela Winbush- Angel
Billy Ocean- Love Zone

Do you guys miss it


These are mostly adult contemporary versions of soul music, what I call "conservative R&B." I mean, if you're going that route how can you overlook Luther Vandross?

When I think of the '80s sound of soul music, I'm thinking of these songs:

Zapp - More Bounce to the Ounce
Patrice Rushen - Forget-Me-Nots
Midnight Star - Freak-A-Zoid
Lakeside - Fantastic Voyage
Skyy - Call Me
Slave - Watching You
Evelyn "Champagne" King - Love Come Down
The Dazz Band - Let It Whip
The System - You Are in My System
Rick James - Give It to Me Baby
Klymaxx - The Men All Pause

Particularly in the earlier half of the decade, the songs had a catchy rhythm arrangements with an emphasis on sythesizers taking the place of most other instruments.
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Reply #57 posted 04/04/08 1:18am

LittleAmy

neoretro7 said:

R&B music in the 80's I believe was out of this world.The music was part synthesized but at the same time there were real instruments. We had good artists like Anita Baker, Sade, Regina Belle, Stephanie Mills, Peabo Bryson, Billy Ocean and so on.

I don't think R&B is dead it is just that people refuse to sing like these singers did back then.

R&B hits back in the 80's

Whitney Houston- Greatest Love Of All
James Ingram- Just Once
Anita Baker- Sweet Love
Sade- Cherish
Regina Belle- Baby Come To Me
Peabo Bryson- If Ever In My Arms Again
Stephanie Mills- Home
Miki Howard- Love Under New Management
Angela Winbush- Angel
Billy Ocean- Love Zone

Do you guys miss it


These are mostly adult contemporary versions of soul music, what I call "conservative R&B." Whitney Houston was more of a pop/crossover artist then. I mean, if you're going that route how can you overlook the most dominant such artist in the '80s, Luther Vandross?

When I think of the '80s sound of soul music, I'm thinking more in the line of these songs (not saying these are perfect and the only examples, by any means):

Zapp - More Bounce to the Ounce
Patrice Rushen - Forget-Me-Nots
Midnight Star - Freak-A-Zoid
Lakeside - Fantastic Voyage
Skyy - Call Me
Slave - Watching You
Howard Johnson - So Fine
Evelyn "Champagne" King - Love Come Down
The Dazz Band - Let It Whip
The System - You Are in My System
Rick James - Give It to Me Baby
Klymaxx - The Men All Pause

Particularly in the earlier half of the decade, the songs had a catchy rhythm arrangements with an emphasis on sythesizers taking the place of most other instruments.
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