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PrintableHarlepolis said: Patti Labelle Rachelle Ferrell Jimi Hendrix Take it back!!!  You take it back right now!!! | |
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Anybody from the classical or country genres. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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PurpleKnight said: How was Cobain not brilliant? You contradict yourself with this post. You readily admit that he had his finger on the pulse of a generation, yet you then dismiss that by saying he wasn't brilliant. If that isn't brilliance, what is it? A mere coincidence? Are you actually suggesting that it takes anything less than brilliance to capture a generation's feelings? It was because of his creative genius that he was able to encapsulate the feelings of an entire generation. His lyrics had a stinging sarcasm and wit; a sardonic quality that Cobain pulled off seamlessly. His songs were simple, but deceptively so. He mastered a style of a simple soft-loud-soft-loud rhythmic pattern, and the hooks he crafted are timeless. Is he overrated now because of his controversial death? Of course, but no more than any other legendary rock star. That doesn't negate the fact that the guy was a great songwriter, even if he wasn't a great technical musician. I didn't contradict myself at all. R. Kelly has his finger on the pulse of the contemporary R&B community. That doesn't make him "brilliant". Kurt was less talented than Kelly, even as a songwriter. He just happened to be able to capture an emotion and say a few things that many were thinking in an era. MANY nights dude SUCKED on stage. He is not overrated for his "controversial" death, his controversial death made people overrate him. I don't have a rose-colored retrospective view of Kurt. I was there when they were playing bars around town and sucking back then, too. It was "in" to suck in the early 90s in Seattle. The grunge scene was anit-hair band/glam rock and anti-skilled musician. Lots of people laugh at how the nation scooped up the Seattle scene and hailed Nirvana as the greatest thing since sliced bread when they were just a garage band that "caught on" and got big because the grunge scene made profits when the rest of the music industry was failing. Kurt was AVERAGE when he was at his best. He was not brilliant. He didn't "master" being simple; he WAS simple. [Edited 3/25/08 13:55pm] | |
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Aretha Franklin - I know she's brilliant and a great vocalist, but she has never really interested me.
Personally, I don't have many artists who I have no interest in that I would call 'brilliant'. There are lots of artist that I don't like and/or can't stand that have songs that I think are pretty enjoyable...does that count  Prince Rogers Nelson
Sunrise: June 7, 1958 Sunset: April 21, 2016 ~My Heart Loudly Weeps "My Creativity Is My Life." ~ Prince Life is merely a dress rehearsal for eternity. | |
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Marvin Gaye
The Smiths Aretha Frankin Pink Floyd Van Morrisson Nirvana Barbara Streisand U2 [Edited 3/25/08 14:41pm] | |
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Glindathegood said: Amy Winehouse
Yes!  | |
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estelle81 said: Aretha Franklin - I know she's brilliant and a great vocalist, but she has never really interested me.
I think you should try some of her 70's stuff like Hey Now Hey (The Other Side Of The Sky) or the YOU album... I fell in love instantly 
I'm not all tha crazy about her stuff from the 60's anymore BECAUSE of those 70's albums... and because of being overexposed to her 60's stuff by my mama & aunties Young, Gifted & Black, the Sparkle album man Ree was gettin fonkay, jazzay.. you name it & she was doin it I'm just now starting to warm up to her 80's material... the 2 Luther produced albums is where I'm at right now Jump To It & Get It Right I believe are the names I found Get It Right on vinyl not too long ago [Edited 3/25/08 15:11pm] because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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Can't believe how many people here don't like Dylan.  | |
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Can't believe how many here like Madonna
I didn't add her because surely no one can honestly think she's brilliant [Edited 3/25/08 15:19pm] | |
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Dewrede said: Can't believe how many here like Madonna
I didn't add her because surely no one can honestly think she's brilliant
 I do!
You don't like Marvin Gaye, so I don't mind disagreeing with you. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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 but apparently you do have good taste since you like Radiohead  | |
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Dewrede said: but apparently you do have good taste since you like Radiohead But nowhere near as much as Marvin Gaye. 
...or even Madonna, to be honest. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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Tori Amos Shake it til ya make it  | |
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AlexdeParis said: Dewrede said: but apparently you do have good taste since you like Radiohead But nowhere near as much as Marvin Gaye.
...or even Madonna, to be honest. 
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JuliePurplehead said: Tori Amos
likewise | |
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DevotedPuppy said: SoulAlive said: Joni Mitchell
Co-sign. My former office mate used to play Joni all the time and it bugged the hell out of me. Her voice is too whiney-folksy for me.  I feel kind of bad about not really "getting her" too, because:
1. Prince obviously thinks she's great and he generally seems to have good taste in music 2. my name is Joni. For years, I tried to pretend that she was cool while secretly I only knew the Big Yellow Taxi song. I've finally come to grips that I just don't like her music. I had Joni's Court And Spark CD for several years because "Help Me" is one of my favorite songs of all time, but beyond that I didn't see what everyone else saw in her. Then I watched an episode of Six Feet Under which used her song "Woodstock" and I suddenly got it. I pulled out my old Court And Spark CD and listened to it and it was like hearing her for the first time. I think I bought Blue the very next day and loved it. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: PurpleKnight said: How was Cobain not brilliant? You contradict yourself with this post. You readily admit that he had his finger on the pulse of a generation, yet you then dismiss that by saying he wasn't brilliant. If that isn't brilliance, what is it? A mere coincidence? Are you actually suggesting that it takes anything less than brilliance to capture a generation's feelings? It was because of his creative genius that he was able to encapsulate the feelings of an entire generation. His lyrics had a stinging sarcasm and wit; a sardonic quality that Cobain pulled off seamlessly. His songs were simple, but deceptively so. He mastered a style of a simple soft-loud-soft-loud rhythmic pattern, and the hooks he crafted are timeless. Is he overrated now because of his controversial death? Of course, but no more than any other legendary rock star. That doesn't negate the fact that the guy was a great songwriter, even if he wasn't a great technical musician. I didn't contradict myself at all. R. Kelly has his finger on the pulse of the contemporary R&B community. That doesn't make him "brilliant". Kurt was less talented than Kelly, even as a songwriter. He just happened to be able to capture an emotion and say a few things that many were thinking in an era. MANY nights dude SUCKED on stage. He is not overrated for his "controversial" death, his controversial death made people overrate him. I don't have a rose-colored retrospective view of Kurt. I was there when they were playing bars around town and sucking back then, too. It was "in" to suck in the early 90s in Seattle. The grunge scene was anit-hair band/glam rock and anti-skilled musician. Lots of people laugh at how the nation scooped up the Seattle scene and hailed Nirvana as the greatest thing since sliced bread when they were just a garage band that "caught on" and got big because the grunge scene made profits when the rest of the music industry was failing. Kurt was AVERAGE when he was at his best. He was not brilliant. He didn't "master" being simple; he WAS simple. [Edited 3/25/08 13:55pm] The impact that Cobain's music had on a generation is not analogous to those examples you gave. Not even by a long shot. R. Kelly continuously writes hits, yes, but Cobain transformed the popular music scene itself. It does take genius to write songs that resonate to that deep of an extent with such a large populace. If it didn't, record executives would be a lot happier. I think you're confusing simplicity with deceptive simplicity. He didn't craft complex melodies like Franz Liszt, perform seamlessly like Prince, or write intellectually like Maynard. Still, what Cobain did was write infectious songs that had lyrical poignancy. That simple writing style was his strength. He would sing a sardonic line like "I'm so ugly, but that's okay 'cause so are you", and combined with his unassuming, shameless delivery, it embodied the very cynical attitude of so many alienated youth at the time. [Edited 3/25/08 19:14pm] The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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Dewrede said: AlexdeParis said: But nowhere near as much as Marvin Gaye.
...or even Madonna, to be honest.
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2Pac
Biggie Nirvana The Rolling Stones Elvis Bowie (But I confess I haven't done much investigation here) Many contemporary gospel artists Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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PurpleKnight said: The impact that Cobain's music had on a generation is not analogous to those examples you gave. Not even by a long shot. R. Kelly continuously writes hits, yes, but Cobain transformed the popular music scene itself. It does take genius to write songs that resonate to that deep of an extent with such a large populace. If it didn't, record executives would be a lot happier. I think you're confusing simplicity with deceptive simplicity. He didn't craft complex melodies like Franz Liszt, perform seamlessly like Prince, or write intellectually like Maynard. Still, what Cobain did was write infectious songs that had lyrical poignancy. That simple writing style was his strength. He would sing a sardonic line like "I'm so ugly, but that's okay 'cause so are you", and combined with his unassuming, shameless delivery, it embodied the very cynical attitude of so many alienated youth at the time. [Edited 3/25/08 19:14pm] Sorry but I my definition of brilliance requires...brilliance. I'm not confusing anything with anything. I'm well aware of what Kurt could do. I'm also aware of the impact that he had. My point is that I didn't/don't view him as an example of brilliance. Did he become the voice of a generation? Yes. He had a great impact on people. People wanted something different from the hair bands and super-soloist uber musicians and Nirvana was it. NONETHELESS, that did not make Kurt Kobain brilliant. | |
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Bob Dylan
Nirvana. Co-sign on Madonna as not being brilliant... can't believe how many mofos don't like Marvin... I heard a lot of people like Public Enemy.. I don't... I'm sure there are others that I have no opinions on... Also AC/DC, never got them, or Guns 'n' Roses likewise. | |
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jonylawson said: for me its radiohead-not remotley intrested
and probably.....hendrix! never realy dug him at all Prince Mishell Ndegéocello Beck Alicia Keys OutKast David Bowie Lenny Kravitz Tori Amos Rolling Stones |
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krayzie said: Prince Mishell Ndegéocello Beck Alicia Keys OutKast David Bowie Lenny Kravitz Tori Amos Rolling Stones  because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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BlaqueKnight said: PurpleKnight said: The impact that Cobain's music had on a generation is not analogous to those examples you gave. Not even by a long shot. R. Kelly continuously writes hits, yes, but Cobain transformed the popular music scene itself. It does take genius to write songs that resonate to that deep of an extent with such a large populace. If it didn't, record executives would be a lot happier. I think you're confusing simplicity with deceptive simplicity. He didn't craft complex melodies like Franz Liszt, perform seamlessly like Prince, or write intellectually like Maynard. Still, what Cobain did was write infectious songs that had lyrical poignancy. That simple writing style was his strength. He would sing a sardonic line like "I'm so ugly, but that's okay 'cause so are you", and combined with his unassuming, shameless delivery, it embodied the very cynical attitude of so many alienated youth at the time. [Edited 3/25/08 19:14pm] Sorry but I my definition of brilliance requires...brilliance. I'm not confusing anything with anything. I'm well aware of what Kurt could do. I'm also aware of the impact that he had. My point is that I didn't/don't view him as an example of brilliance. Did he become the voice of a generation? Yes. He had a great impact on people. People wanted something different from the hair bands and super-soloist uber musicians and Nirvana was it. NONETHELESS, that did not make Kurt Kobain brilliant. I think you two will have to agree to disagree. And why do you two have such similar org-names?  [Edited 3/26/08 20:58pm] | |
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For me, it's Michelangelo Antonioni. I've studied him. I've watched his films. I've pondered the brilliance...
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DirtyChris said: krayzie said: Prince Mishell Ndegéocello Beck Alicia Keys OutKast David Bowie Lenny Kravitz Tori Amos Rolling Stones Co-sign
@2Jay, don't sweat it. Like I said some people rather have an orange than an apple.  | |
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heartbeatocean said:[quote] BlaqueKnight said: Sorry but I my I think you two will have to agree to disagree. And why do you two have such similar org-names?
[b][Edited 3/26/08 20:58pm] [color=blue]I agree. And I've been on this site since it was black with purple letters. With the same org name. Back on topic. I'm surprised no one has said Bjork. [Edited 3/27/08 1:36am] | |
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BlaqueKnight said:[quote] heartbeatocean said: BlaqueKnight said: Sorry but I my I think you two will have to agree to disagree. And why do you two have such similar org-names?
[b][Edited 3/26/08 20:58pm] [color=blue]I agree. And I've been on this site since it was black with purple letters. With the same org name. Back on topic. I'm surprised no one has said Bjork. [Edited 3/27/08 1:36am] You may have a point there.[Edited 3/27/08 2:20am] | |
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Except for a few tunes, it's really hard for me to warm up to Bob Dylan and neil Young  | |
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I'll probably get flamed for this but:
M.I.A. I tried. Everyone claims she's amazing and though I find her cute and conscious lyrically, I just can't get into most of her music.  | |
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