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PrintableThey can't function without Michael, I guess. They were so dependent on him for so long that if there was a rumor that he'll be doing something, they'll be the first to go "we're coming back" then if Michael is "still hanging on to either staying where he's at versus reuniting", they get all funny in the face like "er..." They got to be some of the most laziest SOBs I ever heard about unless NONE of them ever wanna reunite (I know Marlon doesn't, so that excludes him, Tito has a blues career so I ain't gonna hate on him either but Jackie, Jermaine and Randy?  ...). Obviously it's proving some people's point - UNFORTUNATELY AND ALLEGEDLY - that all the Jacksons were was BACKUP for Michael.  It's sickening actually. If they went out on their own tours and got their own pay rather than waiting for the big tours with Michael, we wouldn't be seeing BULLSHIT stories like this posted out every year! 
I bet you by this year or next year if DeBarge ever decides to reunite, and the Jacksons are still "in talks", I'm gonna be laughing my butt off how EVERY OTHER LEGENDARY GROUP can go on the road and get PAID while the Jacksons are "reportedly working at Foot Locker"! GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!  | |
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SoulAlive said: Ottensen said: Okay...now that I can actually see setlist choices in front of me...you mean to tell me they have this wealth of material to choose from and they aren't out there WORKIN'? 
The Jacksons?
Whose family name carries historical weight in pop and soul music?
Oh HAYELL no  . These are just some lazy mfs. You can't tell me that if Midnight Starr, Atlantic Starr, and the damned OSMONDS  MINUS Donnie & Marie can still get out there and tour (and all I remember from them was the song "One Bad Apple"  )...and these boys can't? Puh-leeze. That's either laziness or head issues You are absolutely right! With all of those hit songs,there is NO REASON why they can't get off their lazy asses and make some money.And you know what? If Michael doesn't want to do it,they should tour without him.Granted,they would probably have to play smaller venues,but hey....a paycheck is a paycheck.Earth Wind and Fire tours without Maurice White (their leader) and somehow,they do okay.It's time for the Jacksons to get back to work!! It's been said in the past that record execs didn't want to work with them unless Michael is with them. Remember how 2300 Jackson Street flopped? From what Janet has recently said, the only one on the fence is good ole Michael Joe, as usual  And that she's trying to convince them
Come on, Damita Jo! Get on his ass!! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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phunkdaddy said: LittleBLUECorvette said: He needs to stop being lazy a dn get a new hair do also, it ain't 1989 anymore Jermaine... Email verdine white the part about getting a new hairdo too. Now that's funny!!!  | |
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bboy87 said: SoulAlive said: You are absolutely right! With all of those hit songs,there is NO REASON why they can't get off their lazy asses and make some money.And you know what? If Michael doesn't want to do it,they should tour without him.Granted,they would probably have to play smaller venues,but hey....a paycheck is a paycheck.Earth Wind and Fire tours without Maurice White (their leader) and somehow,they do okay.It's time for the Jacksons to get back to work!! It's been said in the past that record execs didn't want to work with them unless Michael is with them. Remember how 2300 Jackson Street flopped? From what Janet has recently said, the only one on the fence is good ole Michael Joe, as usual And that she's trying to convince them
Come on, Damita Jo! Get on his ass!! But we're not talking about recording. We're talking about touring in a niche market that supports older r&b artists. These are the audiences that keep Jeffery Osborn, Earth Wind, Chic, and a host of others working consistently without the benefit of gargantuan, mainstream commercial music releases. Again, with the wealth of hits they have at their disposal you cannot tell me that they can't get gigs. If the damn Barkays can still book gigs off of "Soulfinger", then those Jackson brothers can get and play some dates too, Michael or NO Michael | |
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Ottensen said: bboy87 said: It's been said in the past that record execs didn't want to work with them unless Michael is with them. Remember how 2300 Jackson Street flopped? From what Janet has recently said, the only one on the fence is good ole Michael Joe, as usual And that she's trying to convince them
Come on, Damita Jo! Get on his ass!! But we're not talking about recording. We're talking about touring in a niche market that supports older r&b artists. These are the audiences that keep Jeffery Osborne, Earth Wind, Chic, and a host of others working consistently without the benefit of gargantuan, mainstream commercial music releases. Again, with the wealth of hits they have at their disposal you cannot tell me that they can't get gigs. If the damn Barkays can still book gigs off of "Soulfinger", then those Jackson brothers can get and play some dates too, Michael or NO Michael 
If the Jackson guys had any sense,they would reunite RIGHT NOW,start rehearsing and then go out on a summer tour.With or without Michael.Stop talking about a tour.....just go out there and do it!!! I can't believe how lazy these guys have become. | |
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Ottensen said: Oh HAYELL no . These are just some lazy mfs. You can't tell me that if Midnight Starr, Atlantic Starr, and the damned OSMONDS MINUS Donnie & Marie can still get out there and tour (and all I remember from them was the song "One Bad Apple" )...and these boys can't? Puh-leeze. That's either laziness or head issues Well, I guess it's "head issues"... I mean, they came back in '89, without Michael, doing the 2300 Jackson Street album and obviously they weren't as succesful as they had hoped... I'm not sure if they intially also had planned to tour... especially after doing the massive Victory tour... so that is probably a reason why they haven't tried again... that and the faint hope that Michael might join them on a comeback! But I think too, they should just go for it, even without Michael... in the US they certainly have a shot at having some minor success... | |
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Jackson Five pair sue Daily Star over 'flat broke' allegations
27 March 2008 Two former members of the Jackson Five are planning to sue the Daily Star, just over a week after it printed an unprecedented front page apology to the family of missing girl Madeline McCann. Jermaine and Tito Jackson have instructed their lawyers to “take all necessary action” against the Express Newspapers title for “untrue and defamatory” allegations published in yesterday’s paper. The paper led with a front page story yesterday headlined “Jackson five hit the skids” that claimed that all five members of the hit 1970s group were facing financial difficulties. The piece was labelled as “Another Daily Star showbiz exclusive”. Legal firm Swan Turton said the pair were particularly annoyed by the suggestion that Tito is playing gigs for £250 a night and that Jermaine is still living off his earnings from an appearance on Celebrity Big Brother last year. Lawyer Jonathan Coad said the Jacksons “strenuously deny” the allegations. | |
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DarlingDiana said: Jackson Five pair sue Daily Star over 'flat broke' allegations
27 March 2008 Two former members of the Jackson Five are planning to sue the Daily Star, just over a week after it printed an unprecedented front page apology to the family of missing girl Madeline McCann. Jermaine and Tito Jackson have instructed their lawyers to “take all necessary action” against the Express Newspapers title for “untrue and defamatory” allegations published in yesterday’s paper. The paper led with a front page story yesterday headlined “Jackson five hit the skids” that claimed that all five members of the hit 1970s group were facing financial difficulties. The piece was labelled as “Another Daily Star showbiz exclusive”. Legal firm Swan Turton said the pair were particularly annoyed by the suggestion that Tito is playing gigs for £250 a night and that Jermaine is still living off his earnings from an appearance on Celebrity Big Brother last year. Lawyer Jonathan Coad said the Jacksons “strenuously deny” the allegations.  But didn't the story originate from the New York Post? | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: DarlingDiana said: Jackson Five pair sue Daily Star over 'flat broke' allegations
27 March 2008 Two former members of the Jackson Five are planning to sue the Daily Star, just over a week after it printed an unprecedented front page apology to the family of missing girl Madeline McCann. Jermaine and Tito Jackson have instructed their lawyers to “take all necessary action” against the Express Newspapers title for “untrue and defamatory” allegations published in yesterday’s paper. The paper led with a front page story yesterday headlined “Jackson five hit the skids” that claimed that all five members of the hit 1970s group were facing financial difficulties. The piece was labelled as “Another Daily Star showbiz exclusive”. Legal firm Swan Turton said the pair were particularly annoyed by the suggestion that Tito is playing gigs for £250 a night and that Jermaine is still living off his earnings from an appearance on Celebrity Big Brother last year. Lawyer Jonathan Coad said the Jacksons “strenuously deny” the allegations. But didn't the story originate from the New York Post?I think may have originally been reported in the Daily Star and then the NY Post may have gotten to it "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Let's be realistic for a moment and stop spouting the bs for a moment and kicking them at their down moment(sad how people don't have empathy on the board especially when their in the same profession what a pity). Their last name is Jackson not Rockefeller or Rothschild. The Jacksons wealth is self made not inherited and can be absorbed by divorces,alimony, child support, Lawyers,taxes and so forth. So in essence, their money can fly just like time just like anybody else.  [Edited 3/29/08 12:06pm] | |
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bboy87 said: SexyBeautifulOne said: But didn't the story originate from the New York Post?I think may have originally been reported in the Daily Star and then the NY Post may have gotten to it Oh, ok! I was looking at the dates. The date for the NYP article is 3/23 and the post about the Daily Sun was dated 3/27 and it said "The paper led with a front page story yesterday headlined “Jackson five hit the skids”" which would have been 3/26.  | |
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SoulAlive said: Ottensen said: Okay...now that I can actually see setlist choices in front of me...you mean to tell me they have this wealth of material to choose from and they aren't out there WORKIN'?
The Jacksons?
Whose family name carries historical weight in pop and soul music?
Oh HAYELL no . These are just some lazy mfs. You can't tell me that if Midnight Starr, Atlantic Starr, and the damned OSMONDS MINUS Donnie & Marie can still get out there and tour (and all I remember from them was the song "One Bad Apple" )...and these boys can't? Puh-leeze. That's either laziness or head issues You are absolutely right! With all of those hit songs,there is NO REASON why they can't get off their lazy asses and make some money.And you know what? If Michael doesn't want to do it,they should tour without him.Granted,they would probably have to play smaller venues,but hey....a paycheck is a paycheck.Earth Wind and Fire tours without Maurice White (their leader) and somehow,they do okay.It's time for the Jacksons to get back to work!! Peple talk like if they have never thought about it once...
I'm sorry but the Jacksons aint lazy Michael is... Jacksons are ready to perform... Michael had several offers, he can make millions alone to perform, but he IS LAZY... And this is not about money... The matter of fact is the Jacksons can't tour without Michael, simply because they are brothers and Michael has been the front man since day one... It has always been Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5 Michael Jackson is too charismatic to be replaced Who's gonna sing the lead parts ??? You can't compare a soul group like EWF and a family group like the Jacksons... The public won't embrace the Jacksons without Michael Jackson... You can't replace Michael Jackson like you can replace Maurice White [Edited 4/1/08 10:13am] | |
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krayzie said: SoulAlive said: You are absolutely right! With all of those hit songs,there is NO REASON why they can't get off their lazy asses and make some money.And you know what? If Michael doesn't want to do it,they should tour without him.Granted,they would probably have to play smaller venues,but hey....a paycheck is a paycheck.Earth Wind and Fire tours without Maurice White (their leader) and somehow,they do okay.It's time for the Jacksons to get back to work!! Peple talk like if they have never thought about it once...
I'm sorry but the Jacksons aint lazy Michael is... Jacksons are ready to perform... Michael had several offers, he can make millions alone to perform, but he IS LAZY... And this is not about money... The matter of fact is the Jacksons can't tour without Michael, simply because they are brothers and Michael has been the front man since day one... It has always been Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5 Michael Jackson is too charismatic to be replaced Who's gonna sing the lead parts ??? You can't compare a soul group like EWF and a family group like the Jacksons... The public won't embrace the Jacksons without Michael Jackson... You can't replace Michael Jackson like you can replace Maurice White [Edited 4/1/08 10:13am]
Phillip Bailey only works because he did sing lead on some tracks. | |
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krayzie said: http://www.nypost.com/seven/03232008/news/nationalnews/jacko_clan_in_a_deep_funk_103188.htm
Just found this article, don't have time to read it so please let your comments always talking about the jackson and especially janet..
I noticed you didn't reply to my comments made in another thread you made about janet.. but i want to thank you for making a thread for me  |
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DO YOU GUYS REALLY BELIEVE THIS MESS  ... THEY always talk trash about the jackson.. im sorry but im not believing it |
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Ottensen said: Paris9748430 said: Because without Michael, there is no tour. I don't see Michael Jackson touring AT ALL on a normal touring schedule. Let alone some nostalgia tour with his brothers. If Mike doesn't wanna do it, there's no use of even TRYING to tour. No one's gonna pay to see the Jackson's WITHOUT Michael!!! Yeah, but even Jermaine's greasy behind could tour solo on the r&b oldies circuit if he wanted to. He had good hits that the r&b audience loved in the 80's and could do gigs from Tom Joyner (who always gives mad love to old school acts) if he really wanted to. Hell, if the Time, Lakeside, Freddie Jackson, and glossy-lipped Johnny Gill can sing their hearts out on these soul cruises and radio "family reunion" tours then I don't see why he can't too. laughin @ greasy behind.... | |
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HAPPY APRIL FOOLS DAYS "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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too funny. i'm sure here is some truth to some of the things in the article but mostly see above images.  Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND | |
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Stymie said: krayzie said: Peple talk like if they have never thought about it once...
I'm sorry but the Jacksons aint lazy Michael is... Jacksons are ready to perform... Michael had several offers, he can make millions alone to perform, but he IS LAZY... And this is not about money... The matter of fact is the Jacksons can't tour without Michael, simply because they are brothers and Michael has been the front man since day one... It has always been Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5 Michael Jackson is too charismatic to be replaced Who's gonna sing the lead parts ??? You can't compare a soul group like EWF and a family group like the Jacksons... The public won't embrace the Jacksons without Michael Jackson... You can't replace Michael Jackson like you can replace Maurice White [Edited 4/1/08 10:13am]
Phillip Bailey only works because he did sing lead on some tracks. Oh yes my friend you can, EWF has always been the group first not the front man... When Bailey left the group, it didn't affect them at all, they were still touring... The Jackson 5 is a different story, it's all about the front man and the family concept... | |
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Actually,Philip Bailey never the band.It was Maurice who stopped performing with them in the mid-90s.They've toured without Maurice since then. | |
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krayzie said: SoulAlive said: You are absolutely right! With all of those hit songs,there is NO REASON why they can't get off their lazy asses and make some money.And you know what? If Michael doesn't want to do it,they should tour without him.Granted,they would probably have to play smaller venues,but hey....a paycheck is a paycheck.Earth Wind and Fire tours without Maurice White (their leader) and somehow,they do okay.It's time for the Jacksons to get back to work!! Peple talk like if they have never thought about it once...
I'm sorry but the Jacksons aint lazy Michael is... Jacksons are ready to perform... Michael had several offers, he can make millions alone to perform, but he IS LAZY... And this is not about money... The matter of fact is the Jacksons can't tour without Michael, simply because they are brothers and Michael has been the front man since day one... It has always been Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5 Michael Jackson is too charismatic to be replaced Who's gonna sing the lead parts ??? You can't compare a soul group like EWF and a family group like the Jacksons... The public won't embrace the Jacksons without Michael Jackson... You can't replace Michael Jackson like you can replace Maurice White I agree,Michael is the one who is holding them back.I know that the brothers are eager to do a reunion tour.Michael is indeed lazy. But if he doesn't want to tour with them,they should just give it a try without him and see how it goes.Jermaine is a capable lead vocalist.Without Michael,they would probably have to play smaller venues,but like I said....a paycheck is a paycheck.There are many groups and bands on the road who are touring without their original lead singer. | |
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SoulAlive said: Actually,Philip Bailey never the band.It was Maurice who stopped performing with them in the mid-90s.They've toured without Maurice since then.
Phlip Bailey left EWF in the 80's to launch a solo career... | |
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SoulAlive said: krayzie said: Peple talk like if they have never thought about it once...
I'm sorry but the Jacksons aint lazy Michael is... Jacksons are ready to perform... Michael had several offers, he can make millions alone to perform, but he IS LAZY... And this is not about money... The matter of fact is the Jacksons can't tour without Michael, simply because they are brothers and Michael has been the front man since day one... It has always been Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5 Michael Jackson is too charismatic to be replaced Who's gonna sing the lead parts ??? You can't compare a soul group like EWF and a family group like the Jacksons... The public won't embrace the Jacksons without Michael Jackson... You can't replace Michael Jackson like you can replace Maurice White I agree,Michael is the one who is holding them back.I know that the brothers are eager to do a reunion tour.Michael is indeed lazy. But if he doesn't want to tour with them,they should just give it a try without him and see how it goes.Jermaine is a capable lead vocalist.Without Michael,they would probably have to play smaller venues,but like I said....a paycheck is a paycheck.There are many groups and bands on the road who are touring without their original lead singer. Nobody can sing the part of Michael jackson BUT Michael Jackson... Michael Jackson is too unique to be duplicate... Jermaine Jermaine tried to be the lead singer in the late 80's, and they failed miserabily... remember 2300 jackson street ??? And Jermaine is too different from Michael... It didn't work yesterday, it won't work today... Again, why touring for few bucks knowing they can make millions with Michael... Just one world tour in Asia wouldbe enough the entire family... And again the Jacksons CAN'T TOUR without their original lead singer... | |
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krayzie said: SoulAlive said: I agree,Michael is the one who is holding them back.I know that the brothers are eager to do a reunion tour.Michael is indeed lazy. But if he doesn't want to tour with them,they should just give it a try without him and see how it goes.Jermaine is a capable lead vocalist.Without Michael,they would probably have to play smaller venues,but like I said....a paycheck is a paycheck.There are many groups and bands on the road who are touring without their original lead singer. Nobody can sing the part of Michael jackson BUT Michael Jackson... Michael Jackson is too unique to be duplicate... Jermaine Jermaine tried to be the lead singer in the late 80's, and they failed miserabily... remember 2300 jackson street ??? And Jermaine is too different from Michael... It didn't work yesterday, it won't work today... Again, why touring for few bucks knowing they can make millions with Michael... Just one world tour in Asia wouldbe enough the entire family... And again the Jacksons CAN'T TOUR without their original lead singer... In essence, the Jacksons can't get away with the same stuff that the Temptations, Supremes and so-and-so get away with it. In essence, though the other brothers have talent, Michael WAS the Jacksons. | |
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krayzie said: SoulAlive said: You are absolutely right! With all of those hit songs,there is NO REASON why they can't get off their lazy asses and make some money.And you know what? If Michael doesn't want to do it,they should tour without him.Granted,they would probably have to play smaller venues,but hey....a paycheck is a paycheck.Earth Wind and Fire tours without Maurice White (their leader) and somehow,they do okay.It's time for the Jacksons to get back to work!! Peple talk like if they have never thought about it once...
I'm sorry but the Jacksons aint lazy Michael is... Jacksons are ready to perform... Michael had several offers, he can make millions alone to perform, but he IS LAZY... And this is not about money... The matter of fact is the Jacksons can't tour without Michael, simply because they are brothers and Michael has been the front man since day one... It has always been Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5 Michael Jackson is too charismatic to be replaced Who's gonna sing the lead parts ??? You can't compare a soul group like EWF and a family group like the Jacksons... The public won't embrace the Jacksons without Michael Jackson... You can't replace Michael Jackson like you can replace Maurice White [Edited 4/1/08 10:13am] Oh Holy Bejeezus Juice, you are tripping. Re-read the posts by SoulAlive and me. There IS a niche market on the r&b circuit that would embrace the Jackson brothers without Michael whether you want to believe it or not. What I gather from your comment is that you're not familar with that market, or... ...and I'm not talking about touring for millions. I'm speaking to the idea of being a true performer and being dedicated to your craft, and taking the opportunity to PLAY because it's your true calling, be it the Tokyo Dome, Montreux Jazz Festival, Essence Festival in New Orleans or the Tom Joyner Sky Show in freakin' North Carolina . | |
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krayzie said: SoulAlive said: Actually,Philip Bailey never the band.It was Maurice who stopped performing with them in the mid-90s.They've toured without Maurice since then.
Phlip Bailey left EWF in the 80's to launch a solo career... No,here's what really happened.... In 1983,Earth Wind and Fire temporarily disbanded.They released the album 'Electric Universe' in late 1983 and called it a day.They reunited in 1987 for the 'Touch The World' album. While they were on "hiatus",Philip recorded a few solo albums.Maurice released a solo album as well. The band never toured during this time,and they most certainly never toured without Philip Bailey. | |
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