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Thread started 02/29/08 11:34am

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New JANET interview...her thoughts now on MADONNA...

from PerezHilton...

We love Janet. AND we love Madonna. However, there isn't much love between the two!

The pop superstars are reported to have a very icy relationship towards each other.

Miz Jackson sharpened her claws a bit during a new interview with fag rag HX.

Meow!

HX: I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but there's an Internet war between Janet and Madonna fans. I know you and Madonna had some beef in the '90s, but do you think the heat between Madonna and Janet fans has any validity?
Janet: No—I didn't know this was going on. [Laughs]

They argue, make videos and, of course, it's mostly the gay fans. So people are curious: What are your thoughts on Madonna now?
I think she's done wonderful things. She's done great things in her career, in her life, and more power to her. I think fans will always be that way—always. They're just incredibly loyal and they love you so much that if anyone says anything remotely negative, they're there to just immediately jump on them. It'll always be that way—very loyal.

If a "Janet" drag queen had to battle a "Madonna" drag queen, what advice would you give the "Janet" queen?
Kick the bitch's ass!
Every minute of last night is on my face today....
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Reply #1 posted 02/29/08 11:36am

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U 'gon make me shake my doo loose!
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Reply #2 posted 02/29/08 11:59am

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i have never fallen into the whole janet vs. madonna thing as i love them both
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Reply #3 posted 02/29/08 12:24pm

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RockAbilly said:

i have never fallen into the whole janet vs. madonna thing as i love them both

So do I. I think it was simple something like Madonna saying "I don't know Madonna but I have heard she isn't very nice with people she works with." And I believe Madonna's follow-up was even more vague but less confrontational, saying she never meet her and has no idea where the comment came from. Who cares? The "Kick that bitch's ass" thing was good. Janet seems very dull and lifeless in interviews....shell shocked, really. I forget....Anytime Janet was interview, Rene told her what to say. He even came up with the "Kick that bitch's ass" comment, probably.
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Reply #4 posted 02/29/08 3:01pm

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VinnyM27 said:

RockAbilly said:

i have never fallen into the whole janet vs. madonna thing as i love them both

So do I. I think it was simple something like Madonna saying "I don't know Madonna but I have heard she isn't very nice with people she works with." And I believe Madonna's follow-up was even more vague but less confrontational, saying she never meet her and has no idea where the comment came from. Who cares? The "Kick that bitch's ass" thing was good. Janet seems very dull and lifeless in interviews....shell shocked, really. I forget....Anytime Janet was interview, Rene told her what to say. He even came up with the "Kick that bitch's ass" comment, probably.

rolleyes here we go again with the Rene ish
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Reply #5 posted 03/01/08 9:52am

SoulAlive

I think it was fun interview lol
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Reply #6 posted 03/01/08 9:56am

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Evvy said:

VinnyM27 said:


So do I. I think it was simple something like Madonna saying "I don't know Madonna but I have heard she isn't very nice with people she works with." And I believe Madonna's follow-up was even more vague but less confrontational, saying she never meet her and has no idea where the comment came from. Who cares? The "Kick that bitch's ass" thing was good. Janet seems very dull and lifeless in interviews....shell shocked, really. I forget....Anytime Janet was interview, Rene told her what to say. He even came up with the "Kick that bitch's ass" comment, probably.

rolleyes here we go again with the Rene ish


Ditto. It's like this cat is saying janet sat with rene's hand up her
ass and was a ventriloquist.
rolleyes
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Reply #7 posted 03/01/08 10:01am

Cinnie

Okay, which one of you orgers writes for HX? smile
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Reply #8 posted 03/01/08 10:20am

SoulAlive

Cinnie said:

Okay, which one of you orgers writes for HX? smile


lol
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Reply #9 posted 03/01/08 11:29am

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VinnyM27 said:

RockAbilly said:

i have never fallen into the whole janet vs. madonna thing as i love them both

So do I. I think it was simple something like Madonna saying "I don't know Madonna but I have heard she isn't very nice with people she works with." And I believe Madonna's follow-up was even more vague but less confrontational, saying she never meet her and has no idea where the comment came from. Who cares? The "Kick that bitch's ass" thing was good. Janet seems very dull and lifeless in interviews....shell shocked, really. I forget....Anytime Janet was interview, Rene told her what to say. He even came up with the "Kick that bitch's ass" comment, probably.


I never understood the "war", its like the whole Michael vs Prince thing, two totally different artists and people. But there are always these crazy "vs" things, Mariah vs JLO, what was that, once again mostly fabricated by both camps, two artists that have nothing in common.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #10 posted 03/01/08 1:47pm

SoulAlive

"I never understood the war"

There is no "war" between Madonna and Janet.They've never even met each other! Fans like to battle each other,but Madonna doesn't have anything against Janet,and vice versa.


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Reply #11 posted 03/01/08 2:02pm

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(echoing the sentiment) who has time for feuds? I'm too busy tryna love the whole world!

RockAbilly said:

i have never fallen into the whole janet vs. madonna thing as i love them both
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Reply #12 posted 03/01/08 2:03pm

alphastreet

have they really not met each other? I know there are no pics of them together, but they had both appeared on the same shows they had performed at. 1990, 1993 and 1995 VMA's, 1998 VH1 Fashion Awards to name a few.
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Reply #13 posted 03/01/08 3:19pm

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alphastreet said:

have they really not met each other? I know there are no pics of them together, but they had both appeared on the same shows they had performed at. 1990, 1993 and 1995 VMA's, 1998 VH1 Fashion Awards to name a few.


A few years ago in an interview,Janet said "We've never actually met,Can you believe that?"

I'm sure they've been at the same award shows,but never actually went up and talked to each other.
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Reply #14 posted 03/01/08 3:33pm

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Nah. They tight.

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Reply #15 posted 03/01/08 4:46pm

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Evvy said:

VinnyM27 said:


So do I. I think it was simple something like Madonna saying "I don't know Madonna but I have heard she isn't very nice with people she works with." And I believe Madonna's follow-up was even more vague but less confrontational, saying she never meet her and has no idea where the comment came from. Who cares? The "Kick that bitch's ass" thing was good. Janet seems very dull and lifeless in interviews....shell shocked, really. I forget....Anytime Janet was interview, Rene told her what to say. He even came up with the "Kick that bitch's ass" comment, probably.

rolleyes here we go again with the Rene ish

HE'S NOT... nor did he produce the music to all those hit songs...
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phunkdaddy said:

Evvy said:


rolleyes here we go again with the Rene ish


Ditto. It's like this cat is saying janet sat with rene's hand up her
ass and was a ventriloquist.
rolleyes


I was being sarcastic. I give Janet credit for being Janet and doing writing when she is credited but there are people on other threads who don't even listen to her albums and think it was all Rene. See some of the later posts between me and some Mariah fan (excuse me, not a Mariah fan) in the big Janet "Discipline" thread. A large point on the Rene issue is that if he is this talent, where is he now and why isn't he behind some other female artists? The Jackson's really have the clout to the stop him? Really? I don't think the Jacksons have been an intimidating show business force since the eighties...actually, maybe they never have been!
I'm also not one for fan wars. I'm a fan of both and can make comparisons, contrasts and criticisms. Mariah, I have no love for, so I try not to comment on her.
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Reply #17 posted 03/01/08 5:03pm

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lol
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Reply #18 posted 03/01/08 5:42pm

Janfriend

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"I never understood the war"

There is no "war" between Madonna and Janet.They've never even met each other! Fans like to battle each other,but Madonna doesn't have anything against Janet,and vice versa.


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I don't know where you've been all these years, but Janet can't stand Madonna and has valid reasons
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SoulAlive said:

alphastreet said:

have they really not met each other? I know there are no pics of them together, but they had both appeared on the same shows they had performed at. 1990, 1993 and 1995 VMA's, 1998 VH1 Fashion Awards to name a few.


A few years ago in an interview,Janet said "We've never actually met,Can you believe that?"

I'm sure they've been at the same award shows,but never actually went up and talked to each other.


Janet has a bad memory, she forgot which album Together Again was on, and she said the same thing about meeting Mariah only recently, but I could have sworn in Janets 97/98 Rollingstone interview, Mariah fams over her at some party.

I like that Janet thought it was 'sweet' her fans fight for her. Not the most PC thing to say.
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Reply #20 posted 03/02/08 12:25am

Janfriend

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SoulAlive said:



A few years ago in an interview,Janet said "We've never actually met,Can you believe that?"

I'm sure they've been at the same award shows,but never actually went up and talked to each other.


Janet has a bad memory, she forgot which album Together Again was on, and she said the same thing about meeting Mariah only recently, but I could have sworn in Janets 97/98 Rollingstone interview, Mariah fams over her at some party.

I like that Janet thought it was 'sweet' her fans fight for her. Not the most PC thing to say.


It was at Wanya's birthday party and it was a brief thing. They never hung out or spoke.It wasn't until 04/05 she actually "talked" to Mariah and now they're friends
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Reply #21 posted 03/03/08 12:58am

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Janfriend said:

SoulAlive said:

"I never understood the war"

There is no "war" between Madonna and Janet.They've never even met each other! Fans like to battle each other,but Madonna doesn't have anything against Janet,and vice versa.

I don't know where you've been all these years, but Janet can't stand Madonna and has valid reasons



Janet wasn't too happy when Madonna suggested that Michael is a closet homosexual.In the early 90s,Michael and Madonna were hanging out together and were planning a duet ("In The Closet").In an interview,Madonna mentioned that Michael should hang around with her dancers Jose and Luis,"to get him out of the box that he's in".She said something to that effect and Janet was pissed.Considering everything that's happened with Michael since then,I don't know why Janet was so shocked/angry at what Madonna was saying back then.

But I'm curious....what are the "valid reasons" that Janet can't stand Madonna? confuse Surely,it can't be the Michael Jackson comments,which even he wasn't too pissed about.In 1996,he attended the premiere of Madonna's 'Evita' movie.
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Reply #22 posted 03/03/08 8:59pm

Janfriend

SoulAlive said:

Janfriend said:


I don't know where you've been all these years, but Janet can't stand Madonna and has valid reasons



Janet wasn't too happy when Madonna suggested that Michael is a closet homosexual.In the early 90s,Michael and Madonna were hanging out together and were planning a duet ("In The Closet").In an interview,Madonna mentioned that Michael should hang around with her dancers Jose and Luis,"to get him out of the box that he's in".She said something to that effect and Janet was pissed.Considering everything that's happened with Michael since then,I don't know why Janet was so shocked/angry at what Madonna was saying back then.


That's not the reason, at least not the only one

But I'm curious....what are the "valid reasons" that Janet can't stand Madonna? confuse Surely,it can't be the Michael Jackson comments,which even he wasn't too pissed about.In 1996,he attended the premiere of Madonna's 'Evita' movie.

It's too deep to get into and I'm too tired to type it, but it's been talked about in an old interview
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Reply #23 posted 03/03/08 9:03pm

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Yeah it's Janet's "we both make dance music, but what I do has class" argument from 1992 or so.

Of course, we know how that turned out for her...

"What the fuck? The song ended...But, I didn't even get to cum...Did you?" rolleyes
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Reply #24 posted 03/03/08 9:44pm

alphastreet

twink69 said:

SoulAlive said:



A few years ago in an interview,Janet said "We've never actually met,Can you believe that?"

I'm sure they've been at the same award shows,but never actually went up and talked to each other.


Janet has a bad memory, she forgot which album Together Again was on, and she said the same thing about meeting Mariah only recently, but I could have sworn in Janets 97/98 Rollingstone interview, Mariah fams over her at some party.

I like that Janet thought it was 'sweet' her fans fight for her. Not the most PC thing to say.


I thought about that too, I have that article and remember cracking up over it and how Janet never joined them after. I'm guessing JD reintroduced them in recent years
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Reply #25 posted 03/03/08 9:45pm

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Yeah it's Janet's "we both make dance music, but what I do has class" argument from 1992 or so.

Of course, we know how that turned out for her...

"What the fuck? The song ended...But, I didn't even get to cum...Did you?" rolleyes


I remember seeing that clip on youtube, but someone else said they copied and pasted the question and answer from seperate interviews to make it sound like Janet responded like that. And by the way, that was 1993 or 94, definitely not 1992.
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Reply #26 posted 03/03/08 9:48pm

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It seems very tongue in cheek to me. I doubt there's much real hostility between them.
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Reply #27 posted 03/04/08 12:57am

SoulAlive

Axchi696 said:

Yeah it's Janet's "we both make dance music, but what I do has class" argument from 1992 or so.

Of course, we know how that turned out for her...

"What the fuck? The song ended...But, I didn't even get to cum...Did you?" rolleyes



I remember Janet commenting on Madonna's 'Sex' book.She said...

"I could hitchhike on the freeway with no clothes on,and people would notice me too.But that wouldn't make me an artist"

nuts Kinda ironic,considering the sex-obsessed path that Janet has taken in recent years lol
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I remember Janet commenting on Madonna's 'Sex' book.She said...

"I could hitchhike on the freeway with no clothes on,and people would notice me too.But that wouldn't make me an artist"


janet misses the point here

over the course of thirty years, madonna as film subject is art

she thinks about her image and not only does it show but, it has been shown in magazines, books, and exhibits around the world

also, madonna had vision and pushed herb ritts into music videos, at great success

janet was just one of the artists to benefit from this
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Reply #29 posted 03/04/08 11:05am

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RockAbilly said:

I remember Janet commenting on Madonna's 'Sex' book.She said...

"I could hitchhike on the freeway with no clothes on,and people would notice me too.But that wouldn't make me an artist"


janet misses the point here

over the course of thirty years, madonna as film subject is art

she thinks about her image and not only does it show but, it has been shown in magazines, books, and exhibits around the world

also, madonna had vision and pushed herb ritts into music videos, at great success

janet was just one of the artists to benefit from this
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It's much deeper than that
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