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Thread started 02/11/08 7:28pm

Ace

L-Boogie's "Ex-Factor"

While I cannot endorse the lyrical content of this song, there is no denying it is one sweet track (nice vid, too).
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Reply #1 posted 02/11/08 8:12pm

AlexdeParis

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One of her best. music
"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #2 posted 02/12/08 12:37am

SoulAlive

On her 1999 tour,this was the opening song music I'll never forget that tour
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Reply #3 posted 02/12/08 4:40am

Ace

SoulAlive said:

On her 1999 tour,this was the opening song music I'll never forget that tour

Really? That's a pretty bold choice for an opener!
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Reply #4 posted 02/12/08 4:45am

SoulAlive

Ace said:

SoulAlive said:

On her 1999 tour,this was the opening song music I'll never forget that tour

Really? That's a pretty bold choice for an opener!


Indeed it was lol Many people thought she would open with something like "Lost Ones" but she chose a mellow song instead.It caught everyone off-guard.
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Reply #5 posted 02/12/08 5:20am

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I've always loved this one. Now I gotta think back to the lyrics, they never bothered me but you got me wondering hmmm lol
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Reply #6 posted 02/12/08 6:51am

Ace

CalhounSq said:

I've always loved this one. Now I gotta think back to the lyrics, they never bothered me but you got me wondering hmmm lol

I used to love 'em, but now when I hear 'em, I just think:



It could all be so simple
But you'd rather make it hard

Actually, the only one making it hard on yourself is you.

Loving you is like a battle
And we both end up with scars

Why would you want to stay in a relationship that's "like a battle"?

Tell me, who I have to be
To get some reciprocity

Codependency is never a healthy thing.

No one loves you more than me
And no one ever will

Romantic hyperbole. This is the sort of sentiment that leads to misery, depression and (in extreme circumstances) sometimes even suicide.

Is this just a silly game
That forces you to act this way
Forces you to scream my name
Then pretend that you can't stay

Sounds like a lack of communication going on here.

And when I try to walk away
You'd hurt yourself to make me stay
This is crazy

If you think it's crazy (and it is), why would you wanna stay?

As painful as this thing has been
I just can't be with no one else

In the words of Mary J.: No more drama! no no no!

See I know what we got to do
You let go and I'll let go too

Actually, it only takes one to let go.

Why won't you live for me?

You should not be asking anyone to "live" for you.


Those are my honest feelings on the lyrics of this otherwise beautiful song. shrug
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Reply #7 posted 02/12/08 1:11pm

AlexdeParis

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Ace said:

Those are my honest feelings on the lyrics of this otherwise beautiful song. shrug

You do realize it's supposed to be a song about a bad relationship, right? IMO, it's insightful and poignant. Sadly, it really sounds like it comes from experience.

BTW, I also think the title is absolutely perfect.
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"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #8 posted 02/12/08 1:19pm

INSATIABLE

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My favorite song to sing in the shower.
Oh shit, my hat done fell off
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Reply #9 posted 02/12/08 1:42pm

thekidsgirl

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I absolutely LOVE this f-ing song! eek

Its so beautiful, tragic, and true.
Every time I hear it I just gotta shake my head and wonder...What went wrong Lauryn??
If you will, so will I
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Reply #10 posted 02/12/08 2:04pm

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My fave Lauryn song after "The Sweetest Thing".
"And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ heart

"Baby, that was much too fast"...Goodnight dear sweet Prince. I'll love you always heart
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Reply #11 posted 02/12/08 3:05pm

MuthaFunka

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Ace said:

CalhounSq said:

I've always loved this one. Now I gotta think back to the lyrics, they never bothered me but you got me wondering hmmm lol

I used to love 'em, but now when I hear 'em, I just think:




Actually, it only takes one to let go.

Why won't you live for me?

You should not be asking anyone to "live" for you.


Those are my honest feelings on the lyrics of this otherwise beautiful song. shrug


So basically you just like the music of the song and nothing else. eek
nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher

MuthaFunka - Black...by popular demand
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Reply #12 posted 02/12/08 3:06pm

MuthaFunka

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thekidsgirl said:

I absolutely LOVE this f-ing song! eek

Its so beautiful, tragic, and true.
Every time I hear it I just gotta shake my head and wonder...What went wrong Lauryn??


ANSWER: Wyclef
nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher

MuthaFunka - Black...by popular demand
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Reply #13 posted 02/12/08 3:29pm

Timmy84

Man she seemed destined for a great future. That song was definitely a personal song for her.
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Reply #14 posted 02/12/08 3:31pm

alphastreet

it's a good song but I ended up hating it cause it was wayyyy too overplayed. I'll have to check it out again to see if I could embrace it once more.
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Reply #15 posted 02/12/08 3:37pm

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MuthaFunka said:

thekidsgirl said:

I absolutely LOVE this f-ing song! eek

Its so beautiful, tragic, and true.
Every time I hear it I just gotta shake my head and wonder...What went wrong Lauryn??


ANSWER: Wyclef


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If you will, so will I
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Reply #16 posted 02/12/08 3:39pm

MuthaFunka

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thekidsgirl said:

MuthaFunka said:



ANSWER: Wyclef


confused


lol What? It's true! That's who the song was about.
nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher

MuthaFunka - Black...by popular demand
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Reply #17 posted 02/12/08 3:50pm

Timmy84

alphastreet said:

it's a good song but I ended up hating it cause it was wayyyy too overplayed. I'll have to check it out again to see if I could embrace it once more.


They do be playing that a lot! evillol
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Reply #18 posted 02/12/08 4:41pm

Ace

MuthaFunka said:

Ace said:


You should not be asking anyone to "live" for you.


Those are my honest feelings on the lyrics of this otherwise beautiful song. shrug


So basically you just like the music of the song and nothing else. eek

I used to like the lyrics when I was younger, but now I just love the music and the vocals. cloud9
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Reply #19 posted 02/12/08 4:47pm

Ace

AlexdeParis said:

You do realize it's supposed to be a song about a bad relationship, right?

confused
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Reply #20 posted 02/12/08 5:32pm

CalhounSq

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Ace said:

CalhounSq said:

I've always loved this one. Now I gotta think back to the lyrics, they never bothered me but you got me wondering hmmm lol

I used to love 'em, but now when I hear 'em, I just think:




Actually, it only takes one to let go.

Why won't you live for me?

You should not be asking anyone to "live" for you.


Those are my honest feelings on the lyrics of this otherwise beautiful song. shrug

Damn Ace, you simplified the hell outta that song lol But if relationships/love were so simple, people wouldn't be in such agony (or bliss, for that matter) over them all the time smile Nothing in the lyrics offend me. I have yet to have a relationship that difficult, but I can see why folks get caught up like that. nod Love the song bananadance
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Reply #21 posted 02/12/08 5:53pm

Ace

CalhounSq said:

Ace said:


You should not be asking anyone to "live" for you.


Those are my honest feelings on the lyrics of this otherwise beautiful song. shrug

Damn Ace, you simplified the hell outta that song lol But if relationships/love were so simple, people wouldn't be in such agony (or bliss, for that matter) over them all the time smile Nothing in the lyrics offend me. I have yet to have a relationship that difficult, but I can see why folks get caught up like that. nod Love the song bananadance

I wouldn't say they "offend" me; I just think they romanticize playing the fool. shrug But, hey - this and a kajillion other pieces of art, right? lol
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Reply #22 posted 02/12/08 6:00pm

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Ace said:

CalhounSq said:


Damn Ace, you simplified the hell outta that song lol But if relationships/love were so simple, people wouldn't be in such agony (or bliss, for that matter) over them all the time smile Nothing in the lyrics offend me. I have yet to have a relationship that difficult, but I can see why folks get caught up like that. nod Love the song bananadance

I wouldn't say they "offend" me; I just think they romanticize playing the fool. shrug But, hey - this and a kajillion other pieces of art, right? lol

I just don't see how she's romanticizing it. Hell, who doesn't think this relationship sounds fucked up? It's an honest, frank portrayal IMO. shrug
"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #23 posted 02/12/08 6:03pm

JasmineFire

this song came on the radio the other day and it was just such a good song. I had forgotten about it and it was nice to hear it again.
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Reply #24 posted 02/12/08 6:03pm

CalhounSq

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Ace said:

CalhounSq said:


Damn Ace, you simplified the hell outta that song lol But if relationships/love were so simple, people wouldn't be in such agony (or bliss, for that matter) over them all the time smile Nothing in the lyrics offend me. I have yet to have a relationship that difficult, but I can see why folks get caught up like that. nod Love the song bananadance

I wouldn't say they "offend" me; I just think they romanticize playing the fool. shrug But, hey - this and a kajillion other pieces of art, right? lol

I hear you & it does fall in line w/ that kajillion other pieces of art that romanticize it too. nod But it's such rich territory (love, vulnerability) & we can all relate to it somehow. Being the fool @ times just comes w/ the territory smile
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #25 posted 02/13/08 1:05am

SoulAlive

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"The Sweetest Thing".


I LOVE THAT SONG!! love I remember hearing it on the radio for the first time and I went nuts.I thought it sounded like a good old fashioned,early 70s R&B song!! I immediately went out and bought the 'Love Jones' movie soundtrack,just for this one song.I wonder why she didn't include this song on 'Miseducation'.
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Reply #26 posted 02/13/08 1:07am

SoulAlive

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Man she seemed destined for a great future.


Indeed.Forget Alicia Keyes.Lauryn would have been the top female R&B artist of this decade,if she had not lost her mind.
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Reply #27 posted 02/13/08 1:15am

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nod thumbs up! if only she'd give us some more to love sad.
For all time I am with you, you are with me.
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Reply #28 posted 02/14/08 1:02am

SoulAlive

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nod thumbs up! if only she'd give us some more to love sad.


It's sad that things turned out the way they did,but hey,at least she left us with one amazing album.Thanks,Lauryn!
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Reply #29 posted 02/14/08 9:03am

midnightmover

SoulAlive said:

Timmy84 said:

Man she seemed destined for a great future.


Indeed.Forget Alicia Keyes.Lauryn would have been the top female R&B artist of this decade,if she had not lost her mind.

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