independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > Tony Soprano will play Marvin Gaye's European mentor in biopic
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 02/01/08 2:05pm

Timmy84

Tony Soprano will play Marvin Gaye's European mentor in biopic

http://www.variety.com/ar...id=16&cs=1

James Gandolfini to play Gaye's Belgian mentor during singer's final years

"Sexual Healing", the biopic of legendary soul singer Marvin Gaye, has confirmed James Gandolfini ("The Sopranos") will produce the film with his Attaboy Films and will also co-star in the film as Gaye's Belgian mentor and friend, Freddy Cousaert, alongside Jesse L. Martin ("Rent", "Law & Order"), who will play the enigmatic late singer.

Due to ownership rights, the producers of the film were unable to produce a comprehensive biopic of the singer covering his pioneering Motown career, instead the film will focus on the singer's final four years of his life from his parting with Motown to his struggles to end drug addiction to his comeback, which culminated in the release of his biggest-selling album, Midnight Love, which was entirely recorded in Belgium in 1982 and finally the singer's tragic 1984 death at the hands of his father.

The film will begin shooting this April and will be filmed in Massachusetts, Ostend, Belgium - Marvin's early 1980s residence, and Los Angeles, the site of his murder.

----
When this was originally announced, I was mad that it wasn't gonna be a comprehensive biography film but now I'm actually looking forward to this. I wanted to know more about Marvin's relationship with Freddy. Marvin did have a bit of life over there.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 02/01/08 2:40pm

SPYZFAN1

Go Jesse! This man was born to play Marvin.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 02/01/08 8:09pm

rebelsoldier

Why can't they come up with a better title than sexual healing. Once again limiting the man's legacy to just one song.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 02/01/08 8:14pm

Timmy84

rebelsoldier said:

Why can't they come up with a better title than sexual healing. Once again limiting the man's legacy to just one song.


I heard there's another biopic in the works so hopefully if that gets off the ground and Universal allows Marvin's music to be used, you may be in luck. Keep the faith! biggrin
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 02/01/08 9:33pm

sosgemini

avatar

martin's not too old?
Space for sale...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 02/01/08 9:41pm

Paris9748430

That's a weird headline. They barely even mention that Jesse's gonna be starring as Marvin.
JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 02/01/08 10:30pm

Timmy84

sosgemini said:

martin's not too old?


He's 39.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 02/01/08 10:30pm

Timmy84

Paris9748430 said:

That's a weird headline. They barely even mention that Jesse's gonna be starring as Marvin.


I know, right? LOL!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 02/02/08 8:02am

shorttrini

avatar

I also heard that John Legend was set to play Smokey Robinson...Is this still true?
"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 02/02/08 8:08am

Timmy84

shorttrini said:

I also heard that John Legend was set to play Smokey Robinson...Is this still true?


What? I hadn't heard that, lol!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 02/02/08 8:13am

DarlingDiana

What sort of title is that? Surely there are better Marvin songs that would make good biopic titles. What about "Flyin' High". That sort of sounds cool as a biopic title.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 02/02/08 8:37am

Timmy84

DarlingDiana said:

What sort of title is that? Surely there are better Marvin songs that would make good biopic titles. What about "Flyin' High". That sort of sounds cool as a biopic title.


I bet you they'll call it simply Marvin,..or After Midnight
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 02/02/08 10:44am

shorttrini

avatar

Timmy84 said:

shorttrini said:

I also heard that John Legend was set to play Smokey Robinson...Is this still true?


What? I hadn't heard that, lol!



I had first seen it on IMB.com. A movie database. It listed Legend as Smokey. This was sometime last year. But, then I heard that the project fell through. Glad to see, that it is on again.
"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 02/02/08 11:08am

Timmy84

shorttrini said:

Timmy84 said:



What? I hadn't heard that, lol!



I had first seen it on IMB.com. A movie database. It listed Legend as Smokey. This was sometime last year. But, then I heard that the project fell through. Glad to see, that it is on again.


Oh OK, I'll probably have to go check it again but I'm gonna be disappointed if the project falls into more problems.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 02/02/08 7:29pm

namepeace

Timmy84 said:

shorttrini said:




I had first seen it on IMB.com. A movie database. It listed Legend as Smokey. This was sometime last year. But, then I heard that the project fell through. Glad to see, that it is on again.


Oh OK, I'll probably have to go check it again but I'm gonna be disappointed if the project falls into more problems.


Sounds like a great premise; my guess is that this could be an intensive character study. Looking forward to it, if it gets off the ground.
Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 02/02/08 7:43pm

Timmy84

namepeace said:

Timmy84 said:



Oh OK, I'll probably have to go check it again but I'm gonna be disappointed if the project falls into more problems.


Sounds like a great premise; my guess is that this could be an intensive character study. Looking forward to it, if it gets off the ground.


What I'm thinking is they would glance back at Marvin's past to see what made the man tick. Of course a younger man will have to play Marvin during his early period and then flash forward to the current time when he ponders while possibly getting high on crack cocaine and being depressed. This could be like "Ray" a little back without the Hollywood ending since Marvin's life was such a Greek tragedy almost.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 02/03/08 7:24am

namepeace

Timmy84 said:

namepeace said:



Sounds like a great premise; my guess is that this could be an intensive character study. Looking forward to it, if it gets off the ground.


What I'm thinking is they would glance back at Marvin's past to see what made the man tick. Of course a younger man will have to play Marvin during his early period and then flash forward to the current time when he ponders while possibly getting high on crack cocaine and being depressed. This could be like "Ray" a little back without the Hollywood ending since Marvin's life was such a Greek tragedy almost.


I'd hope they could do that, but even if they didn't, if Martin has the depth and nuance to convey the backstory by how he portrays Gaye in real time, it could work. I agree with you, though, Gaye's story needs to be told from beginning to end. Who couldn't back this movie? If done as well as Ray or Walk The Line, it could be a better story movie-wise than either because of the Greek tragedy element you spoke of.

Let's keep our fingers crossed.
Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 02/03/08 8:00am

LittleAmy

sosgemini said:

martin's not too old?


Jesse L. Martin is only 39 years old, but he definitely looks older (more mature-looking) than that. Personally, he doesn't look like Marvin Gaye at all; he's a dead ringer for basketball great Karl Malone:





I personally thought actor Phil Morris more resembled Gaye than any other actor (at one point 20 years ago, there was talk about casting Morris in the role of Gaye in a biography of the late singer). When he was younger he looked like the '60s-era Gaye, IMO, and even now he's not that far in age from when Gaye died:


[Edited 2/3/08 11:19am]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 02/03/08 8:58am

Timmy84

LittleAmy said:

sosgemini said:

martin's not too old?


Jesse L. Martin is only 39 years old, but he definitely looks older (more mature-looking) than that. Personally, he doesn't look like Marvin Gaye at all; he's a dead ringer for basketball great Karl Malone:





I personally thought actor Phil Morris more resembled Gaye than any other actor (at one point 20 years ago, there was talk about casting Morris in the role of Gaye in a biography of the late singer). When he was younger he looked like the '60s-era Gaye, IMO, and even now he's not that far in age from when Gaye died:


[Edited 2/3/08 8:21am]


Eh, I still think Jesse can look like Marvin. I thought he was on the "Rent" film for real. Wasn't his character wearing a beanie/kufi like Marvin? I think so. I think he can pull it off. Phil Morris not so much, unless he was to play Marvin from beginning to end on that other Marvin biopic that was spoken about. hmmm
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 02/03/08 10:39am

LittleAmy

Timmy84 said:

Eh, I still think Jesse can look like Marvin. I thought he was on the "Rent" film for real. Wasn't his character wearing a beanie/kufi like Marvin? I think so. I think he can pull it off. Phil Morris not so much, unless he was to play Marvin from beginning to end on that other Marvin biopic that was spoken about. hmmm


So wearing a skull cap is a qualification for looking like Marvin Gaye -- and that actually makes sense to you? Don't tell Brian McKnight that.

I didn't say anything about Jesse L. Martin's acting abilities -- I commented on the fact he looks exactly like Karl Malone (not to mention I recall on his days of "Law and Order" he certainly has more of the build to play The Mailman).

Phil Morris, on the other hand, is a longer-established actor who actually has a resemblance to Gaye so I don't see how Martin can "pull it off" more than Morris. Plus, your final statement seems to be an oxymoron -- Morris is apparently not qualified enough to play Gaye in his final years but qualified enough to play a role of Gaye throughout his life (even though Morris now is not that far in age from when Gaye died).
[Edited 2/3/08 11:00am]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 02/03/08 11:14am

Timmy84

LittleAmy said:

Timmy84 said:

Eh, I still think Jesse can look like Marvin. I thought he was on the "Rent" film for real. Wasn't his character wearing a beanie/kufi like Marvin? I think so. I think he can pull it off. Phil Morris not so much, unless he was to play Marvin from beginning to end on that other Marvin biopic that was spoken about. hmmm


So wearing a skull cap is a qualification for looking like Marvin Gaye -- and that actually makes sense to you? Don't tell Brian McKnight that.

I didn't say anything about Jesse L. Martin's acting abilities -- I commented on the fact he looks exactly like Karl Malone (not to mention I recall on his days of "Law and Order" he certainly has more of the build to play The Mailman).

Phil Morris, on the other hand, is a longer-established actor who actually has a resemblance to Gaye so I don't see how Martin can "pull it off" more than Morris. Plus, your final statement seems to be an oxymoron -- Morris is apparently not qualified enough to play Gaye in his final years but qualified enough to play a role of Gaye throughout his life (even though Morris now is not that far in age from when Gaye died).
[Edited 2/3/08 11:00am]


No, but it certainly helped. evillol The way his expressions were, I felt, "ok, I can see him doing Marvin", I don't get the big deal about Morris though. We'll see one day.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 02/03/08 11:19am

LittleAmy

Timmy84 said:

No, but it certainly helped. evillol The way his expressions were, I felt, "ok, I can see him doing Marvin", I don't get the big deal about Morris though. We'll see one day.


Phil Morris = longer established actor, resembles Marvin Gaye, is close to same age as Gaye when the singer died:





I have no problems with Jesse L. Martin as an actor, but IMO whenever I see him the first thing I think is "He looks like Karl Malone." And based on what I have seen of him on "Ally McBeal" and "Law and Order" over the years he doesn't fit the profile to play Marvin Gaye, IMO.
[Edited 2/3/08 11:28am]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 02/03/08 11:20am

Timmy84

Oh I agree, he does resemble younger Marvin but I wonder how he'll adapt to the older, bearded Marvin. hmmm They could use him for "Sexual Healing" to 'reminisce' on Marvin's early life/career, lol.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 02/03/08 11:25am

LittleAmy

Timmy84 said:

Oh I agree, he does resemble younger Marvin but I wonder how he'll adapt to the older, bearded Marvin. hmmm They could use him for "Sexual Healing" to 'reminisce' on Marvin's early life/career, lol.


If Phil Morris has a resemblance to Marvin Gaye without the goatee, adding a goatee to Morris isn't going to make him look dramatically different than Gaye in his final years (the bigger issue is to give Morris the appearance of the receding hairline Gaye had). Plus, it seems odd to use an older actor to play a younger Gaye and a younger actor who doesn't resemble Gaye to play the singer at the end of his life.
[Edited 2/3/08 11:27am]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 02/03/08 11:27am

Timmy84

LittleAmy said:

Timmy84 said:

Oh I agree, he does resemble younger Marvin but I wonder how he'll adapt to the older, bearded Marvin. hmmm They could use him for "Sexual Healing" to 'reminisce' on Marvin's early life/career, lol.


If Phil Morris has a resemblance to Marvin Gaye without the goatee, adding a goatee to Morris isn't going to make him look dramatically different than Gaye in his final years. Plus, it seems odd to use an older actor to play a younger Gaye and a younger actor who doesn't resemble Gaye to play the singer at the end of his life.


In other words, they wouldn't even use him (Morris), lol. If Marvin's film was made around 1984, 1985, 1986, maybe Greg would've pulled it off.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 02/03/08 11:31am

LittleAmy

Timmy84 said:

In other words, they wouldn't even use him (Morris), lol. If Marvin's film was made around 1984, 1985, 1986, maybe Greg would've pulled it off.


So instead, it makes sense to you for Karl Malone (who is several years younger than when Marvin Gaye died) to play Marvin Gaye. It makes no sense to me. Not to mention Jesse L. Martin today (39) is much older than Phil Morris was in your timeframe (24 to 26), so again that's not making sense.

IMO, it makes more sense for Phil Morris to play Gaye in this movie detailing the final years of the singer's life and to cast Martin in another movie entailing the singer's entire life (Motown years to his death). In the proposed movie, there shouldn't be much in terms of musical performances (I only see "Sexual Healing" and "Sanctified Lady" as central pieces played, but mostly a focus on Gaye's emotional rehabilitation until his death). A full-length movie of Gaye's life at Motown until his death seems to be more suited for Martin's talents (where musical scores will be required).

P.S. I believe you meant Phil Morris -- Greg Morris (of "Mission: Impossible" fame) was his father.
[Edited 2/3/08 11:52am]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 02/03/08 11:51am

Timmy84

LittleAmy said:

Timmy84 said:

In other words, they wouldn't even use him (Morris), lol. If Marvin's film was made around 1984, 1985, 1986, maybe Greg would've pulled it off.


So instead, it makes sense to you for Karl Malone (who is several years younger than when Marvin Gaye died) to play Marvin Gaye. It makes no sense to me. Not to mention Jesse L. Martin today (39) is much older than Phil Morris was in your timeframe (24 to 26), so again that's not making sense.

IMO, it makes more sense for Phil Morris to play Gaye in the final years of his life and maybe cast Martin in a movie entailing the singer's entire life (Motown years to his death).

I believe you meant Phil Morris -- Greg Morris (of "Mission: Impossible" fame) was his father.
[Edited 2/3/08 11:36am]


falloff He don't look nothing like the Mailman to me. Hey, I didn't think Jamie Foxx or Angela Bassett look like Ray Charles and Tina Turner but they pulled it off, didn't they?

And do I have to mention this woman:



...playing this woman:



It may not be fair but that's how it goes with musical bios.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 02/03/08 11:57am

LittleAmy

Timmy84 said:

falloff He don't look nothing like the Mailman to me.


If you say so -- there are the pictures to show the resemblance between Jesse L. Martin and Karl Malone.

Timmy84 said:

Hey, I didn't think Jamie Foxx or Angela Bassett look like Ray Charles and Tina Turner but they pulled it off, didn't they?


The problem is, you haven't presented anything to state that Martin can pull it more than Phil Morris other than "BECAUSE I SAID SO." It's not like you were going to find an established actor on the scene a decade ago who resembles Tina Turner, which is different from what is being discussed. You have one actor who not only has been acting longer than the other, but actually looks like the subject in question and is roughly the same age and build (a bonus, IMO).

As I stated in my post I just revised, Morris makes much more sense to play this movie (Gaye at the end of his life) and Karl Malone may be better suited in a movie of Gaye from the Motown years forward.
[Edited 2/3/08 11:59am]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 02/03/08 11:58am

Timmy84

Plus Jesse Martin ain't the only one "who don't look nothing like" the legend he's playing but do these people resemble the legends they play?



...playing:



At one point this guy:



played this legend:



So Jesse playing Marvin ain't as different as you may think. I'm just happy they're making the dagnabbit film about Marvin! lol

At one time this guy supposedly had the film rights to play him in a movie but I guess he sold it:



Just saying. evillol
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 02/03/08 12:04pm

LittleAmy

Of course there have been plenty of movies where actors have been cast who may not fully resemble the subejct at hand, but a lot of those are the product of not having an actor on the scene who resembles the subject.

That's not the case here. There actually is an actor who does resemble the subject at hand and has more acting experience than the other person cast (Greg Morris was a regular on a major television series while Jesse L. Martin was in high school). Not to mention it seems like this movie on this part of Marvin Gaye's life is more apt for Morris' talents than Martin's.

Again, you haven't said how Martin is better suited than Morris other than "BECAUSE I SAID SO."
[Edited 2/3/08 12:06pm]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > Tony Soprano will play Marvin Gaye's European mentor in biopic