^^^Funny review. He gets her.

Why do people keep implying that Mariah should not be successful because her single is not as strong as Feedback? Why do fans keep comparing she and Janet? Mariah’s album hasn’t even been leaked yet. It's like Janet fans are mad or jealous because Emancipation was a hit and 20Y.O. was not. So what? It's not a race. All artists have peaks and valleys.

It’s bad enough that the media and the label can’t review or discuss one without mentioning the other but dammit they’re not a package deal! I knew when Janet came to Def Jam this would happen. Sad thing is, I know it’s only going to get worse when E=MC2 does get released. As artists, they are so far apart in my mind... they don’t even occupy the same space or playlists. Sure, we want big things for Janet but not on the basis of Mariah’s failure and vice versa. Why does one have to be mentioned in the same breath as the other? Why can't we wish both well and keep it moving instead of looking at as a competition?

JackieBlue said:

Feedback maybe a better record/track (production value ect) but TMB the better song? its a catchy jingle almost thats why it works on the radio. and she sings it well.

JackieBlue said:

I agree.The comparison/competition game is getting tired.Whenever female artists release new albums around the same thing,fans always come up with this "battle of the divas" nonsense.There's even a Mariah vs.Madonna thread going on in this forum,lol.These artists are all different,and they each have their own audiences and fanbases.I'm sure that all three of them will enjoy some success.

JackieBlue said:

there, you said it

i can get the frustrations though because i've been there when Mariah would put out one flop after another while other random songs would skyrocket up the charts.

JackieBlue said:

Whoa. Hold up for a minute there before you create some new inane fan base war out of nowhere that we don't need. Janet fans are not "mad" or "jealous" Believe it or not, many are actually Mariah fans, too (like me). There is one Mariah thread on Janet-Xone right now and it is largely positive. Janet fans are busy discussing Janet's new album at the moment.

As far as 20 Y.O. goes, even Janet herself has admitted the music was not up to par and that's why it wasn't successful. Am I mad or jealous that TEOM was so successful? Hellz no. Mariah deserved it, that record was her best in 10 years. I hope Janet has the same sort of success with Discipline because it is her best record in 10 years, too.

Airplay: 47.216

PricelessHo said:

I'm not frustrated by Mariah's success. I'm frustrated that she seems to be coasting because she knows she can after TEOM. I wanted her to come hard, and she didn't for me. This track is just uber-lame, and I have no interest to even purchase the album based on this.

VoicesCarry said:

i know you're not VC, i've seen you praise Emancipation a couple of times.

i was referring to some of the people around blogs/boards the likes of Pulse. they always seem to be ready to jump some artists down.

PricelessHo said:

At Pulse the collective is pretty decent at calling an artist out when they bring out a lame track, I will give them credit for that. When WBT came out, the LOVE on Pulse was amazing. It goes both ways. The reaction to this single has been mixed across the board (even amongst her fans). I mean some of the initial negative reaction after the track leaked last Tuesday was from people with Mariah avatars. They were acting like she'd murdered their first-born or something.
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it's only natural that not everybody would agree on something afterall

While I agree that the single is lackluster, I don’t think Mariah is coasting, at least not on this project.

I think she works really hard to make good music and please us. Now whether we like it or not is something else. I think we can see how ingrained her soft and fluffy Hello Kitty persona really permeates her sound and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. In the last several years, Mariah always has those fun girly singles that are catchy or groovy that catches people's attention early in the project--Fantasy, Honey, It's Like That and now Touch My Body. But within the album are wonderful songs that showcase her talents and depths. Should she shake it up a bit? Of course, but I don't think she's coasting just yet. Mariah actually enjoys working and writing and making new music. I don't think she'd give us something that wasn't up to the best of her abilities at that particular point in time. I also think she wants to prove that TEOM was not a fluke, that there's a reason why she's still here and plans to be here tomorrow and the day after that.

JackieBlue said:

When I heard that Mariah was actually considering titling an album Sweet Soul Odyssey, I was all excited. What a great way to followup TEOM, which was a total step in the right direction in terms of her potential. And the rumoured producers were great. Then I see the album tracklisting and producers list and I realized she'd just gone generic simply to sell records, exactly like lastdecember said she would. Yeah, I think she's coasting, because this is certainly not fulfilling her potential. Touch My Body sounds like it could have been off Charmbracelet, not Mimi.
[Edited 2/19/08 7:20am]

Well, I can't say much because I haven't heard the album and I'm not familiar with some of these producers to have a strong feeling one way or another. If they worked with her before then I'm usually okay with her working with them again. I'll always be wary of JD despite his success with her and T-Pain is never a good thing but if I could like ODB on Fantasy anything can happen.

One thing that works for me is that I like her voice. Nevermind that she doesn’t sound like she did when she was 25. I still like it. I enjoy hearing her voice the way I used to enjoy Michael Jackson’s. With that in mind I can recognize that a song may not be great but still enjoy it for what it is. Just a song that brings me happiness so I still anticipate the release of the album.

JackieBlue said:

That's cool. I am just stating my feelings about this project thus far, not trying to devalue yours.

VoicesCarry said:

I think I’m just rather chatty this morning. I was a bit quiet all weekend.

VoicesCarry said:

True. But it also sounds an awful lot like a washed up version of "If We."
Still "If We," one of the worst songs of Glitter, sounds miles better.


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Pop - #31 (highest debut)
Rhythmic - #28 (highest debut)
Urban - #23 (highest debut)

CHR/RHYTHMIC

#28 (DEBUT) -- MARIAH CAREY Touch My Body -- 1741 spins (+1741 move) -- 18.768M Audience Impressions
Taking Off:
#1-- MARIAH CAREY Touch My Body -- 1633 new spins (63 new stations)
Jump:
#1-- MARIAH CAREY Touch My Body -- +1741 move (88 stations playing)

CHR/POP

#31 (DEBUT) -- MARIAH CAREY Touch My Body -- 1729 spins (+1729 move) -- 14.733M Audience Impressions
Taking Off:
#1-- MARIAH CAREY Touch My Body -- 1605 new spins (73 new stations)
Jump:
#1-- MARIAH CAREY Touch My Body -- +1829 move (119 stations playing)

URBAN

#23 (DEBUT) -- MARIAH CAREY Touch My Body -- 1071 spins (+1071 move) -- 11.208M Audience Impressions
Taking Off:
#1-- MARIAH CAREY Touch My Body -- 927 new spins (44 new stations)
Jump:
#1-- MARIAH CAREY Touch My Body -- +1071 move (68 stations playing)

URBAN AC
Taking Off:
#1-- MARIAH CAREY Touch My Body -- 66 new spins (6 new stations)
Jump:
#5-- MARIAH CAREY Touch My Body -- +134 move (28 stations playing)

Ratner Talks About "Touch My Body" Video l Video Premiers This Monday!

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Brett Ratner, the director of the upcoming "Touch My Body" music video called in to KIIS FM 102.7 in Los Angeles today at 9:05am PST and revealed some interesting facts about the video to Ryan Seacrest and the morning show crew. Ratner also confirmed that the video is scheduled to premiere on TV on Monday, February 25, 2008. It was previously reported that Mariah will visit TRL on Feb. 25.

Below is a transcript of the interview:

Ryan Seacrest: "Touch My Body", it's Mariah Carey's new track. Randy Jackson's been working on this with her. Lots of buzz about Mariah's entire album. Single is called "Touch My Body" [Ryan plays the song and sings along with it]. So the video's gonna be coming, they're actually making the video or just completed the video, and Brett Ratner, famous movie director, is doing the video with Mariah, so it's gotta be great, I wanted to know how provocative it's gonna be, what do you do when you have lyrics like "Touch My Body" and Mariah Carey, what do you do? And what does she touch? That's what I wanted to ask him, so here he is. Brett, how are you baby?
Brett Ratner: I'm good, how are you guys?

RS: I'm good. Are you in the process of several things at once here?
BR: God, because of the strike... I love doing music videos, as you know, I'll never stop doing them as long as they keep asking, and Mariah of course is my buddy and she said "Brett, you gotta come hear my album, I want you to do this video" and I swear to God, she completely blew me away. I think it's the best album she's ever done. You know, I did "We Belong Together" so, I think she's won like three Grammys for it and I used of course my guy Wentworth Miller from my show "Prison Break".

RS: That guy pisses me off because he's too good looking.
BR: I know, right?

RS: We don't need him in our town.
BR: So I knew there was no way, unless I got you to be in the video, there was no way to top Wentworth Miller in this video.

RS: Well the problem's my abs are so big and tight right now. And I started talking about what the video, I listened to the lyrics, what the video might be like, and I read that you were gonna do the video, so now I'm dying to know the storyboards.
BR: I know, three people called me, they were like "they're talking about you and the video" and I said - you know what? I gotta call them and fill them in because it's too good.

RS: Is it that hot? 'Cause it could be so hot.
BR: This is like, I don't wanna exaggerate, but this is like when "Thriller" [by Michael Jackson] first came out. The anticipation.

RS: Is she wearing red?
BR: She's wearing red in one outfit. But I gotta tell you, I said, "you know Mariah, we gotta do..." - people don't know this, but Mariah is hysterical. I mean, she keeps me laughing all the time, and this record is kind of funny, it's called "Touch My Body", and to me I mean it was funny because I thought "There's no way we could do the video with just like the cute guy like Wentworth Miller and you singing to him "Touch My Body", people are gonna laugh." So I said let's really go with one of the funniest guys in the world, who I love, is this guy named Jack McBrayer, who's on 30 Rock. You know this guy?

RS: Yes, and that's a great show!
BR: He is hysterical. So we called him up, and it turns out, you know we call somebody and they're like "yeah, we don't wanna do music videos" but he turned out to be a huge Mariah fan, and he showed up, and I don't wanna give too much away but I gotta tell you, he is one of the funniest guys I've ever worked with. Ever. I mean hysterical.

RS: How does he get to be funny in a music video?
BR: Well, because his character, all I can say is that he fantasizes about what it would be like to be with Mariah.
RS: As do I.
BR: [laughs] And because Mariah, first of all, looks better than she's ever looked, I don't know if you've seen her in public. Have you seen her at all?

RS: Yeah, something's happened. I keep asking her what she's doing because I wanna do the same diet.
BR: No, it's ridiculous, she's been working out every day, she has this trainer that she flew in from St. Barths and this woman is like beating the hell out of her and her body, because she has an incredible body but she was always kind of like voluptuous, now she's just like fit. And she was like, we gotta show this body. So without kind of making fools of ourselves, we really took this all the way. Because we have a comedian like Jack, when it becomes fun and funny, you can go as far as you wanna go.

RS: When is this coming out bro?
BR: I just finished it last night, and I think the debut is next Monday [Feb. 25]. The problem is the record is so big right now, people are like "finish the video, finish the video!"

RS: That's the thing, we played the song a few days ago, and the video usually comes soon after, but you gotta rush this, right?
BR: I rushed it, we shot it in two days, I mean we've been talking about the way we do it is like we're two kids in a candy store. It's like ridiculous, 'cause the record company's really not involved, Mariah just called me and I flew to New York, I like literally, we spent like every night together for a week, like literally throwing ideas around, and then in the last minute we just came up with this idea, we flew back here [Los Angeles], and shot it, and I tell you, I've never had so much fun shooting a music video. When you guys see it, you're gonna flip out. You know what it is really? Truth is, it's a movie. It's not a music video, it's literally a movie. I love it. And by the way, the rest of her album is ridiculous. I think it's the best album she's ever done by far.

RS: E=MC2.
BR: MC².
RS: Oh, they didn't give me a little two, there's a big two. By the way girls, a squared would be a little two.
BR: By the way, we have dialogue in this video, it's hysterical.

Source: MariahDailyJournal | KIIS FM

Interview could be streamed at MDJ
[Edited 2/19/08 13:31pm]

USA Today reports that "Touch My Body" debuts at #22 on this week's airplay chart, based on Nielsen BDS numbers. These are the same figures that are used for by Billboard, therefore the song's position on Billboard's Hot 100 Airplay chart should be around #22 as well. Official Billboard chart positions will be published later this week. Ken Barnes of USA Today, analyzes the chart:


"It would be foolish to ignore the initial impact of Mariah Carey's Touch My Body,' which hits the chart at No. 22 in one of the highest debuts yet recorded.

Nobody comes close to Mariah's No. 22 debut, of course, but another superstar, Usher, scores an unusually high entry at 51 with 'Love in This Club'."

from MDJ.

Ummm - why is this a 'sticky'?

from All Access:

Radio 'Touches' Mariah


MEDIABASE and ALL ACCESS send out congratulations to STEVE BARTELS, ERIK OLESEN, BENNY POUGH, RICK SACKHEIM and the entire ISLAND DEF JAM MUSIC GROUP team as MARIAH CAREY grabs a record 223 monitored adds this week for her new single "Touch My Body."

This is the largest add week for any song since the system began combining projected adds with auto-adds in 2006. The previous record was held by INTERSCOPE's MAROON 5 with 177 in APRIL, 2007 with "Makes Me Wonder."

Airplay hit a brick wall today. Interesting to see where this goes from here.

VoicesCarry said:

it actually did not, here's an explanation by Liron on what happened:

Day X - impressions for the day, spins for the day (TOTAL SO FAR) (What Mediabase shows - 7 DAYS TOTAL)
Day 1 - 7million, 500 spins (Total: 7m) (Mb: 02/12 = 7m)
Day 2 - 6million, 574 spins (Total: 13m) (Mb: 02/13 = 13m)
Day 3 - 6million, 583 spins (Total: 19m) (Mb: 02/14 = 19m)
Day 4 - 6million, 648 spins (Total: 25m) (Mb: 02/15 = 25m)
Day 5 - 8million, 868 spins (Total: 33m) (Mb: 02/16 = 33m)
Day 6 - 7million, 801 spins (Total: 40m) (Mb: 02/17 = 40m)
Day 7 - 7million, 824 spins (Total: 47m) (Mb: 02/17 = 47m)
Day 8 - 7million, 904 spins (Total: 54m) (Mb: 02/18 = 47m)
--

she's been trying to bring that to FOMMers' attention for about a week before they panic

PricelessHo said:

That's nice and all, but it's a completely inaccurate post.

MediaBase is a rolling chart with a 7-day period, so not sure why he is analyzing summed totals for more than 7 days. I'm also not sure where those spin totals are coming from, but I digress.

I want to be clear about something: the song did not GAIN 7 million impressions yesterday, it RECEIVED 7 million impressions yesterday, with basically NO NET GAIN versus last week, when TMB also received about 7 million impressions on Tuesday.

Everything must be relative to the previous week. That's how the charts work, and that's how airplay must be analyzed.

Total A.I. yesterday = ~47.2 million
Total A.I. today = ~47.2 million

No net gain. In fact, she lost 0.256 A.I. at Pop.
[Edited 2/20/08 6:27am]

ok that seriously did my head.

i'm excited for it's Hot 100 debut later today though.

PricelessHo said:

Well, let me put it this way:

-Mediabase is a rolling chart with a 7-day period. This means they will not count more than 7 days of impressions toward their running total. This is how it works for the Hot 100 Airplay, too.

-She received 7 million impressions last Tuesday, the first day of release. That day is no longer being counted for the overall total. As you can see looking at the Quick Cut page, the song has entered a new period. http://www.mmr247.com/mmr...&NumDays=7

-Yesterday she also received 7 million impressions.

-Her net gain is therefore: -7 million (loss from last Tuesday no longer being counted) + 7 million (gain from yesterday) = ZERO

This is why the overall impressions for the past 7 day period remained the same at 47.2 million.

Now, she received 6 million impressions last Wednesday, so if she receives 6 million again today, the song's overall A.I. will remain at 47.2 when Mediabase is updated tomorrow. If she receives 8 million, the song's overall A.I. will increase to 49.2, and if she receives 4 million, the song's overall A.I. will decrease to 45.2.

But, the song should be experiencing gains relative to last week, not levelling off. That's what I mean by hitting a brick wall.
[Edited 2/20/08 7:58am]

ahhh ok that makes it clearer. thanks for that