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Reply #60 posted 12/12/07 5:49pm

AnckSuNamun

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JudasLChrist said:

Timmy84 said:

him and Tina both said some things in the movie wasn't accurate like the rape scene during the recording of "Nutbush City Limits" was totally fabricated...


Man am I glad to hear that! That was the worst part of that movie, the part that made me feel like like Ike was truly evil. I'm glad to hear that it was not true.

I was relieved to hear about it too when I first found out.




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Reply #61 posted 12/12/07 5:49pm

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thesexofit said:

That angela Bassett film made him look positively cruel and sadistic

well technically it wasn't her film. She was just the actress playing the headliner based off of Tina's book and other writers. She had nothing to do with the script besides memorizing her lines and using adlibs. She played the role to a tee, don't get me wrong....but just want you to understand that it wasn't just "her" movie.
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Reply #62 posted 12/12/07 5:49pm

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SHOCKADELICA1 said:

"EAT THE CAKE ANNA MAE!!"" lol Peace out Ike!


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Reply #63 posted 12/12/07 5:52pm

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vainandy said:

I'm telling ya, 2007 has definately been "The Death Year" and 2008 can't get here soon enough.

Poor thang. I always did like the old devil even though he was mean as hell. I just hope he made his peace before he died. Rest in peace Ike.


You took the words right out of my mouth! nod
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Reply #64 posted 12/12/07 5:56pm

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Timmy84 said:

namepeace said:

His legacy as an artist and a person are different, but they combine for a balanced picture of the man. Let's all hope that God will forgive him for all of his wrongs, just as we hope the same for ourselves.


I believe He has. Ike did a lot of good and he did a lot of bad. Neither of us are perfect and we're gonna do things that are very stupid and almost unforgivable but it doesn't mean we should shun that person as just pure evil unless he or she really had evil intentions.

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Reply #65 posted 12/12/07 6:38pm

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We've all gotta go sometime.
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Reply #66 posted 12/12/07 6:53pm

2elijah

Oh no, prayers to his family.
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Reply #67 posted 12/12/07 6:59pm

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I'm surprised to hear or read this, I haven't watched the news today. I know its going to happen but its a shame none the less, He will be more remembered for his violence toward Tina than for his music, and while that is relevant and true, people will not forgive him for what he did to her, even though it was highly dramatized for the movie. GOD bless his family and friends he left behind.
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Reply #68 posted 12/12/07 7:10pm

Cinnie

pray Thank you for recording "Rocket 88" in 1951 and changing the landscape of music.
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Reply #69 posted 12/12/07 7:20pm

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Im sure tina will speak on it, but i dont know about her going to any sort of funeral. I mean i understand "forgiveness" and "respect for the dead" and all that ritual, but he did do alot of damage to her.
Her publicist said that Tina is aware of Ike's passing. She also said that Tina hasn't had any contact with him for 35 years, And that no other comment would be made from her.
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Reply #70 posted 12/12/07 7:24pm

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lastdecember said:

Im sure tina will speak on it, but i dont know about her going to any sort of funeral. I mean i understand "forgiveness" and "respect for the dead" and all that ritual, but he did do alot of damage to her.
Her publicist said that Tina is aware of Ike's passing. She also said that Tina hasn't had any contact with him for 35 years, And that no other comment would be made from her.


She means 30 years, right?
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Reply #71 posted 12/12/07 7:25pm

pfunkpilot

RIP Ike.
since Run & Them were saying "Here we go"
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Reply #72 posted 12/12/07 7:51pm

MsLegs

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People can say what they want about Ike (and they may be right), but he was one of the 1st early pioneers of rock and roll.

The impact of his revue which recorded with him the hit Rocket 88 isn't being disputed at all. However, its not suprising that this artist will be remembered for all aspects of his life the good , the bad/his demons.
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Reply #73 posted 12/12/07 8:11pm

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Ike was a cool dude. I'm sorry 2 hear that he passed away. We had the same barber 4 10 years in Cali.

Peace brother Ike.
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Reply #74 posted 12/12/07 8:46pm

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missfee said:

thesexofit said:

That angela Bassett film made him look positively cruel and sadistic

well technically it wasn't her film. She was just the actress playing the headliner based off of Tina's book and other writers. She had nothing to do with the script besides memorizing her lines and using adlibs. She played the role to a tee, don't get me wrong....but just want you to understand that it wasn't just "her" movie.



Yeah sorry, I shoulda made that clear. I just said Angela Bassett movie because I couldn't be bothered to type "whats love got to do with it". I know Angela had no say in the script etc...

Ike seemed like a funny dude in interviews. Also heard in the early days of Ike and tina, in certain, more racist towns to put it bluntly, Ike took no shit from anybody. Good for him.
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Reply #75 posted 12/12/07 8:53pm

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We had the same barber 4 10 years in Cali.

Peace brother Ike.


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Reply #76 posted 12/12/07 9:24pm

Mara

My parents saw the Ike & Tina Revue back in the 1960s when they were playing night clubs in Crenshaw area near Slauson. They had fond memories of it.
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Reply #77 posted 12/13/07 12:39am

Ottensen

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Anxiety said:

tina seems to be a very spiritual woman, and it would seem to me that she made her peace with that part of her life a long time ago, though i'm sure there's a part of that kind of abuse that never goes away. that being said, i can totally see tina retaining a respectful silence and not making any comments, positive or negative, upon ike's death.

It will be interesting to see/hear her reaction, or lack thereof. Rest in Peace Ike. Hopefully god doesn't bitchslap you too hard lol



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Reply #78 posted 12/13/07 1:36am

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I've got mixed feelings on this. Ike contributed a LOT to modern music, and my "Rollin with Ike & Tina" disc is one of my fave CD's, but I can't get my distaste for him out of my head long enough to properly feel sad about his passing. I'm guessing I shouldn't see What's Love Got to Do With It? I get the impression watching that flick won't help my opinion any.
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Reply #79 posted 12/13/07 1:47am

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RIP rose
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Reply #80 posted 12/13/07 4:05am

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vainandy said:

I'm telling ya, 2007 has definately been "The Death Year" and 2008 can't get here soon enough.

Poor thang. I always did like the old devil even though he was mean as hell. I just hope he made his peace before he died. Rest in peace Ike.



Every year is the death yr if you base it on people dying lol
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Reply #81 posted 12/13/07 4:47am

LaCienega

rot in pieces to the most infamous woman beater. wonder was it a drug overdose. then on 2nd thought who really cares, he just made hell a lil hotter.
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Reply #82 posted 12/13/07 5:37am

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rot in pieces to the most infamous woman beater. wonder was it a drug overdose. then on 2nd thought who really cares, he just made hell a lil hotter.


he's not the most infamous....just the most NOTORIOUS!!!!!
Peep game: BOTH James Brown AND David Ruffin abused Tammi Terrell
Jackie Wilson tried to rape a young Patti LaBelle
It was common knowledge that Johnny "Guitar" Watson & Larry Williams were pimps
the list goes on & on & on.....
Prince-a womanizer
Rick James-a womanizer & coke freak
shall we continue?????
But should it take away from their contributions to popular & funky music???
NO!!!!!
REST IN PEACE IKE TURNER!!!!!
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Reply #83 posted 12/13/07 5:57am

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JudasLChrist said:

Timmy84 said:

him and Tina both said some things in the movie wasn't accurate like the rape scene during the recording of "Nutbush City Limits" was totally fabricated...


Man am I glad to hear that! That was the worst part of that movie, the part that made me feel like like Ike was truly evil. I'm glad to hear that it was not true.


That part really disturbed me too. But if it weren't true why put such a scene in the movie in the first place? The abuse was bad enough without adding a fabricated scene like that.

Btw, who says it wasn't true; Ike people or Tina's people?
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Reply #84 posted 12/13/07 6:29am

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I often thought that something was amiss there. True, Ike did have a violent streak but even him and Tina both said some things in the movie wasn't accurate like the rape scene during the recording of "Nutbush City Limits" was totally fabricated. And Ike never confronted Tina with a gun before a Ritz show either. But that's Hollywood for you.


Really? Could you provide a link?
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Reply #85 posted 12/13/07 6:34am

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I heard about this on the radio while listening to the seventies station. It was weird to hear it because it wasn't a DJ but one of those pre-recorded voice guys with production and stuff behind him. I don't think it's the first time they've done that, either. It's not very well done. The station itself might not have DJs at that time. I rarely listen to it.

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Reply #86 posted 12/13/07 7:28am

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I did not know that he was originally from Clarksdale, Mississippi. No wonder he was such a hell raiser, he had that Mississippi blood in him. We can raise some pure D hell down here. lol
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Reply #87 posted 12/13/07 7:54am

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Musician Ike Turner dies at 76
Considered one of rock's critical architects
By Phil Gallo

Variety.com
12/12/07

Ike Turner, the blues musician who laid a cornerstone in rock 'n' roll but whose abusive and criminal behavior overshadowed his musical accomplishments, died Wednesday at his San Marcos, Calif., home outside San Diego. He was 76.

His manager, Scott M. Hanover of Thrill Entertainment Group, confirmed his death. No cause was given.

Turner had spent much of the past decade working on the rehabilitation of his image in the wake of the film adaptation of Tina Turner's "What's Love Got to Do With It?" biography, which presented him as a drug-crazed demon and wife-beater. Extensive touring, participation in events recognizing his contributions to blues and rock 'n' roll and, earlier this year, a Grammy award had begun to revert focus back to his musicianship.

"You can go ask Snoop Dogg or Eminem, you can ask the Rolling Stones or (Eric) Clapton, or you can ask anybody -- anybody, they all know my contribution to music, but it hasn't been in print about what I've done or what I've contributed until now," he told the Associated Press in 2001.

His career began at the age of 11 in the late 1940s, backing Sony Boy Williamson on piano. He formed, in high school, the Kings of Rhythm and backed Jackie Brenston on "Rocket 88," often considered the first rock 'n' roll record. A producer, songwriter and session pianist and guitarist, Turner kept his name off recordings until 1960, when he formed the Ike & Tina Turner Revue with his wife, the former Anna Mae Bullock.

He was 19 when he wrote "Rocket 88" specifically for a recording session for Sam Phillips at his Sun Studios in Memphis. B.B. King introduced Turner to Phillips, but Turner did not have a song penned. He got the idea for the tune while driving in the car -- an Oldsmobile Rocket 88 -- with the band's gear piled inside and on top of the vehicle. The track was recorded in March 1951, but Chess Records issued the single with the wrong label credit, giving it to Brenston, the lead singer, and the Delta Cats.

Born Izear Luster Turner and raised in Clarksdale, Miss., Turner worked the black clubs of West Memphis, Tenn., until he moved to East St. Louis, Ill., in the mid-1950s. In Memphis he recorded with King, Elmore James, Buddy Guy, Howlin' Wolf and Little Milton; he was also a talent scout for labels on the West Coast.

Turner often talked about the number of rock 'n' rollers who learned from him, saying that Elvis Presley had sat next to the piano in those Memphis clubs, that Janis Joplin sought him out for vocal coaching and that the Rolling Stones based their stage act on Ike & Tina. One verifiable fact: Turner was one of Jimi Hendrix's first musical employers.

In St. Louis, his Kings of Rhythm became a popular club act. Bullock and her sister were regulars at one of the clubs he played, and she had asked whether she could sing with the band. Tired of never being asked to take the stage, she grabbed a microphone that had been offered to her sister and started singing. Soon she was in the band. In 1956, pregnant with the saxophonist's child, she moved in with Ike. They were married in 1958.

At a session in 1960, with her name changed to Tina, Bullock stepped in for a singer who had failed to appear. They recorded "A Fool in Love," which would hit No. 2 on the R&B singles chart and launch the duo's career; Ike & Tina had 17 top 40 R&B hit singles between 1960 and 1975.

With a hit single, Turner created an expanded Ike & Tina Revue with nine musicians, three scantily clad female singers named the Ikettes and Tina as the frenetic sexually charged frontwoman. They became one of the most popular live soul acts, especially in the U.K.

During a show at a Los Angeles club, producer Phil Spector became enamored with Tina and thought he had a perfect song for her. Ike & Tina's recording career -- mostly singles -- had stalled by then, and the chance to record with a man who had a golden touch seemed ideal. Spector paid Ike $20,000 to put Tina under a production deal to record "River Deep Mountain High"; the caveat was that Ike would not be allowed in the studio.

The backing track alone cost $22,000 to produce, and Spector hailed the single as his masterpiece. It hit No. 3 in England, but in the U.S. it bombed so badly -- No. 88 on the pop chart -- that Spector shut down his Philles label and did not make another record for three years.

Ike & Tina continued to record for a variety of labels, adding more covers to their repertoire and performing for rock rather than R&B auds. They supported the Rolling Stones on their 1969 tour and in 1970 appeared on "The Ed Sullivan Show," "The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour" and "The Andy Williams Show." In March 1971, they hit their chart high point with John Fogerty's "Proud Mary," reaching No. 5 R&B/No. 4 pop.

After Tina left him in 1974, Ike Turner went into semi-retirement, staying close to his Inglewood, Calif., home and studio, where he rigged phone lines to make long distance calls without paying, a crime for which he would later be charged. He made a couple of solo albums before a fire destroyed his studio in 1982.

In 1986, "I, Tina" was published. In it Ike was portrayed as a cocaine addict, alcoholic and violent man who subjected Tina to near-constant abuse during their 18-year marriage. Turner was convicted in 1989 on drug charges and sentenced to four years in prison, serving 17 months. He was locked up when he and Tina were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1991.

Turner signed away all of his rights to the filmmakers turning Tina's autobiography into the 1993 film "What's Love Got to Do With It." Upset with the depiction, Turner began attempting to clear his name about a decade ago. His biography "Takin' Back My Name" was published in 1999 but suffered from distribution problems that Turner thought were caused by a connection between the publisher and Virgin Records, which issued Tina's albums.

Turner returned to music by touring with Joe Louis Walker before recording "Here and Now" in 2001 and receiving a year later the W.C. Handy Award for comeback album of the year.

He participated in celebrations that marked Memphis musical history and the history of the blues. A 2001 duet between Turner and Chicago blues legend Pinetop Perkins was part of Martin Scorsese's series of blues films; earlier this year he won his second Grammy, this time for traditional blues album. His first was for R&B vocal performance for "Proud Mary." The Recording Academy presented him with a Heroes Award in 2004.

He is survived by four children from four marriages.
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Reply #88 posted 12/13/07 8:11am

chewwsey

AnckSuNamun said:

JudasLChrist said:



Man am I glad to hear that! That was the worst part of that movie, the part that made me feel like like Ike was truly evil. I'm glad to hear that it was not true.

I was relieved to hear about it too when I first found out.




rose



REST IN PEACE! FOR WHAT!


I agree with this post. that scene was pretty bad and wayyy tooo perfectedly acted out by mr. lawrence. I often wondered if anyone was thinking the same thing and this confirms it.

From what I have heard over the years he did have her doing some sort of prostitution.

she was a bold soul sister! badd as she wanted to be, doing what she wanted to do. but couldn't leave ike.
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Reply #89 posted 12/13/07 8:13am

chewwsey

woogiebear said:

LaCienega said:

rot in pieces to the most infamous woman beater. wonder was it a drug overdose. then on 2nd thought who really cares, he just made hell a lil hotter.


he's not the most infamous....just the most NOTORIOUS!!!!!
Peep game: BOTH James Brown AND David Ruffin abused Tammi Terrell
Jackie Wilson tried to rape a young Patti LaBelle
It was common knowledge that Johnny "Guitar" Watson & Larry Williams were pimps
the list goes on & on & on.....
Prince-a womanizer
Rick James-a womanizer & coke freak
shall we continue?????
But should it take away from their contributions to popular & funky music???
NO!!!!!
REST IN PEACE IKE TURNER!!!!!
cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool




this is news to me. I want to read more. where can I read more about these horrible yet talented ledgends?
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