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PrintableSlave2daGroove said: When you put an album out with the Dap Kings as your backing band, you had better be able to hold your own live because the Dap Kings bring it. Until I see anything of this woman as a performing artist, she's a studio creation to me.
I'm going to see Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings next Tuesday!  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Timmy84 said: Again I'm sorry for any confusion. I guess I thought the poster was saying "I don't think she's gonna make it" and I said "I hope not", I should've added: "I hope she goes to rehab and gets her head together." But I can understand how that can be misconstrued as to "I wish she was dead". I sure as hell wasn't saying that.
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guitarslinger44 said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: OK, I'm kinda disappointed to see her giving her talent credit to her love for her husband. Um - xxxxxNO! Sorry, but you have a gift with or without him. But she was probably high as hell when she said that so I'll hope the help she gets clears her head of that false issue
 She obviously loves him and he probably inspires her in some way. She's not saying she CAN'T sing if he's not there, just that his presence inspires her to perform her best. What's wrong with that?  NO. SupaFunkyOrgangringerSexy was absolutely on point. She IS saying that she can't sing without him, which is SUCH bullshit, because the reason the 'Back 2 Black' album is so great, is because she wrote and recorded those songs while ALONE... while they were broken up. She sang quite a bit without him, and now that the mook is back, she's more fucked up than ever. "He's a musician's musician..." |
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Slave2daGroove said: When you put an album out with the Dap Kings as your backing band, you had better be able to hold your own live because the Dap Kings bring it. Until I see anything of this woman as a performing artist, she's a studio creation to me.
i've seen her perform live, outside, early afternoon, in nearly 100 degree weather, and i was pleasantly shocked by how great her performance was and how well she held up through her whole set. when she wants to take care of herself, i think she really shines. she looked great and sounded great. it makes her behavior all the more frustrating to me, because she CAN hold her own. | |
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Timmy84 said: Again I'm sorry for any confusion. I guess I thought the poster was saying "I don't think she's gonna make it" and I said "I hope not", I should've added: "I hope she goes to rehab and gets her head together." But I can understand how that can be misconstrued as to "I wish she was dead". I sure as hell wasn't saying that.
thanks for the clarification. no harm done. | |
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Anxiety said: Timmy84 said: Again I'm sorry for any confusion. I guess I thought the poster was saying "I don't think she's gonna make it" and I said "I hope not", I should've added: "I hope she goes to rehab and gets her head together." But I can understand how that can be misconstrued as to "I wish she was dead". I sure as hell wasn't saying that.
thanks for the clarification. no harm done. Glad that that's settled. | |
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I hope she uses this time off wisely to clean up and not slip further into self destruction, and all the praise for her husband makes me kinda sick! He's no good to her unless he's helping her get straight! If you will, so will I | |
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thekidsgirl said: I hope she uses this time off wisely to clean up and not slip further into self destruction, and all the praise for her husband makes me kinda sick! He's no good to her unless he's helping her get straight!
it almost makes him sound like an enabler. i hope she can get better. | |
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Anxiety said: Slave2daGroove said: When you put an album out with the Dap Kings as your backing band, you had better be able to hold your own live because the Dap Kings bring it. Until I see anything of this woman as a performing artist, she's a studio creation to me.
i've seen her perform live, outside, early afternoon, in nearly 100 degree weather, and i was pleasantly shocked by how great her performance was and how well she held up through her whole set. when she wants to take care of herself, i think she really shines. she looked great and sounded great. it makes her behavior all the more frustrating to me, because she CAN hold her own. Thx Anx! That gives me a little hope. | |
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JasmineFire said: thekidsgirl said: I hope she uses this time off wisely to clean up and not slip further into self destruction, and all the praise for her husband makes me kinda sick! He's no good to her unless he's helping her get straight!
it almost makes him sound like an enabler. i hope she can get better. An enabler? Try pusher man. He's a full blown crack and heroin addict whom her parents publically blame for introducing her to those drugs and getting her hooked. It's caused a very nasty public rift between the two families that even resulted in the fathers coming to blows a few months ago...namely Mr. Winehouse publically trying to choke the hell out of Blake's father during a drug intervention for the couple at a resort, after the first time she fell into a coma. Shortly after, for the first time the Fielder Civil's confessed they suspected their son had a heroin problem for years via several tv and radio programs in the EU, but could now confirm it in order to save his life. This is when the appeal for a boycott of Amy's music began, and the Winehouses were pissed because it took Amy overdosing for anyone to step up and reveal to them that heroin was involved in the scenario. Amy's mother (who battles MS and is normally very low-key), has said that she initially thought they were just dealing with her daughter's long term alcoholism and anorexia/bullemia issues until the intervention fiasco. She has been less than flatering in the portrait she paints of Blake as a lazy bum who lies around on the sofa all day watching the telly, around whom her daughter restricts the way she expresses herself when she has visited their home. The only thing both sets of parents have managed to accomplish together is identifying the couple's drug dealers, confronting them to ask them to cut the supply, then getting them under police surveilance when that failed. This last part is purely conjecture, but I'm guessing this is how the police managed to get Blake locked up on those other extraneous charges, considering they've been under the police radar since Amy's overdose. Sad tale of co-dependency indeed. At this point, seems like weaning her from that other addiction, her junkie husband is central to her helth as well  | |
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Ottensen said: JasmineFire said: it almost makes him sound like an enabler. i hope she can get better. An enabler? Try pusher man. He's a full blown crack and heroin addict whom her parents publically blame for introducing her to those drugs and getting her hooked. It's caused a very nasty public rift between the two families that even resulted in the fathers coming to blows a few months ago...namely Mr. Winehouse publically trying to choke the hell out of Blake's father during a drug intervention for the couple at a resort, after the first time she fell into a coma. Shortly after, for the first time the Fielder Civil's confessed they suspected their son had a heroin problem for years via several tv and radio programs in the EU, but could now confirm it in order to save his life. This is when the appeal for a boycott of Amy's music began, and the Winehouses were pissed because it took Amy overdosing for anyone to step up and reveal to them that heroin was involved in the scenario. Amy's mother (who battles MS and is normally very low-key), has said that she initially thought they were just dealing with her daughter's long term alcoholism and anorexia/bullemia issues until the intervention fiasco. She has been less than flatering in the portrait she paints of Blake as a lazy bum who lies around on the sofa all day watching the telly, around whom her daughter restricts the way she expresses herself when she has visited their home. The only thing both sets of parents have managed to accomplish together is identifying the couple's drug dealers, confronting them to ask them to cut the supply, then getting them under police surveilance when that failed. This last part is purely conjecture, but I'm guessing this is how the police managed to get Blake locked up on those other extraneous charges, considering they've been under the police radar since Amy's overdose. Sad tale of co-dependency indeed. At this point, seems like weaning her from that other addiction, her junkie husband is central to her helth as well very well said. | |
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Ottensen said: JasmineFire said: it almost makes him sound like an enabler. i hope she can get better. An enabler? Try pusher man. He's a full blown crack and heroin addict whom her parents publically blame for introducing her to those drugs and getting her hooked. It's caused a very nasty public rift between the two families that even resulted in the fathers coming to blows a few months ago...namely Mr. Winehouse publically trying to choke the hell out of Blake's father during a drug intervention for the couple at a resort, after the first time she fell into a coma. Shortly after, for the first time the Fielder Civil's confessed they suspected their son had a heroin problem for years via several tv and radio programs in the EU, but could now confirm it in order to save his life. This is when the appeal for a boycott of Amy's music began, and the Winehouses were pissed because it took Amy overdosing for anyone to step up and reveal to them that heroin was involved in the scenario. Amy's mother (who battles MS and is normally very low-key), has said that she initially thought they were just dealing with her daughter's long term alcoholism and anorexia/bullemia issues until the intervention fiasco. She has been less than flatering in the portrait she paints of Blake as a lazy bum who lies around on the sofa all day watching the telly, around whom her daughter restricts the way she expresses herself when she has visited their home. The only thing both sets of parents have managed to accomplish together is identifying the couple's drug dealers, confronting them to ask them to cut the supply, then getting them under police surveilance when that failed. This last part is purely conjecture, but I'm guessing this is how the police managed to get Blake locked up on those other extraneous charges, considering they've been under the police radar since Amy's overdose. Sad tale of co-dependency indeed. At this point, seems like weaning her from that other addiction, her junkie husband is central to her helth as well yuck, i felt dirty reading this...its stuff that we the public just don't need to know. but thanks for sharing.  Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: Ottensen said: An enabler? Try pusher man. He's a full blown crack and heroin addict whom her parents publically blame for introducing her to those drugs and getting her hooked. It's caused a very nasty public rift between the two families that even resulted in the fathers coming to blows a few months ago...namely Mr. Winehouse publically trying to choke the hell out of Blake's father during a drug intervention for the couple at a resort, after the first time she fell into a coma. Shortly after, for the first time the Fielder Civil's confessed they suspected their son had a heroin problem for years via several tv and radio programs in the EU, but could now confirm it in order to save his life. This is when the appeal for a boycott of Amy's music began, and the Winehouses were pissed because it took Amy overdosing for anyone to step up and reveal to them that heroin was involved in the scenario. Amy's mother (who battles MS and is normally very low-key), has said that she initially thought they were just dealing with her daughter's long term alcoholism and anorexia/bullemia issues until the intervention fiasco. She has been less than flatering in the portrait she paints of Blake as a lazy bum who lies around on the sofa all day watching the telly, around whom her daughter restricts the way she expresses herself when she has visited their home. The only thing both sets of parents have managed to accomplish together is identifying the couple's drug dealers, confronting them to ask them to cut the supply, then getting them under police surveilance when that failed. This last part is purely conjecture, but I'm guessing this is how the police managed to get Blake locked up on those other extraneous charges, considering they've been under the police radar since Amy's overdose. Sad tale of co-dependency indeed. At this point, seems like weaning her from that other addiction, her junkie husband is central to her helth as well yuck, i felt dirty reading this...its stuff that we the public just don't need to know. but thanks for sharing. Oh, YOU! Everything I've cited here are actions that have taken place in full view of the public on this side of the pond, so I'm not up in here trying to share any stealthy information.  . The thing that makes these scenarios difficult for me to observe though is the openess to and easy availability of heroin here in the EU. Heroin addiction is sooo widespread here, it's almost comparable to how we've endured the crack epidemic in the US. Rather unfortunately I'm so used to seeing street addicts around Europe that I can usually identify a heroin user at first glance . It's very unpretty. I hope folks didn't think Winehouse stands around scratching herself all the time because her t-shirts itch. Even more tragic is that in her latest interviews (recently published but done a few months back while she was touring) she's actually been nodding out  . I could understand the frustration of parents who would cry out publically that they're losing their kids to a mess like this.
Scarier still, is the blasé attitude that people have about this kind of addiction here. It's so much apart of the drug culture here that everyday folks seem tobe pretty immune to seeing it, whether it be on the streets or through the media. but that's just my take on it. Even though I've lived over here forever, watching people busted up on heroin really still scares the holy crap outta me | |
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Ottensen said: JasmineFire said: it almost makes him sound like an enabler. i hope she can get better. An enabler? Try pusher man. He's a full blown crack and heroin addict whom her parents publically blame for introducing her to those drugs and getting her hooked. It's caused a very nasty public rift between the two families that even resulted in the fathers coming to blows a few months ago...namely Mr. Winehouse publically trying to choke the hell out of Blake's father during a drug intervention for the couple at a resort, after the first time she fell into a coma. Shortly after, for the first time the Fielder Civil's confessed they suspected their son had a heroin problem for years via several tv and radio programs in the EU, but could now confirm it in order to save his life. This is when the appeal for a boycott of Amy's music began, and the Winehouses were pissed because it took Amy overdosing for anyone to step up and reveal to them that heroin was involved in the scenario. Amy's mother (who battles MS and is normally very low-key), has said that she initially thought they were just dealing with her daughter's long term alcoholism and anorexia/bullemia issues until the intervention fiasco. She has been less than flatering in the portrait she paints of Blake as a lazy bum who lies around on the sofa all day watching the telly, around whom her daughter restricts the way she expresses herself when she has visited their home. The only thing both sets of parents have managed to accomplish together is identifying the couple's drug dealers, confronting them to ask them to cut the supply, then getting them under police surveilance when that failed. This last part is purely conjecture, but I'm guessing this is how the police managed to get Blake locked up on those other extraneous charges, considering they've been under the police radar since Amy's overdose. Sad tale of co-dependency indeed. At this point, seems like weaning her from that other addiction, her junkie husband is central to her helth as well Reading things like this makes me wish that mafia hits were legal because this guy needs to be taken the fuck out.  | |
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JasmineFire said: Ottensen said: An enabler? Try pusher man. He's a full blown crack and heroin addict whom her parents publically blame for introducing her to those drugs and getting her hooked. It's caused a very nasty public rift between the two families that even resulted in the fathers coming to blows a few months ago...namely Mr. Winehouse publically trying to choke the hell out of Blake's father during a drug intervention for the couple at a resort, after the first time she fell into a coma. Shortly after, for the first time the Fielder Civil's confessed they suspected their son had a heroin problem for years via several tv and radio programs in the EU, but could now confirm it in order to save his life. This is when the appeal for a boycott of Amy's music began, and the Winehouses were pissed because it took Amy overdosing for anyone to step up and reveal to them that heroin was involved in the scenario. Amy's mother (who battles MS and is normally very low-key), has said that she initially thought they were just dealing with her daughter's long term alcoholism and anorexia/bullemia issues until the intervention fiasco. She has been less than flatering in the portrait she paints of Blake as a lazy bum who lies around on the sofa all day watching the telly, around whom her daughter restricts the way she expresses herself when she has visited their home. The only thing both sets of parents have managed to accomplish together is identifying the couple's drug dealers, confronting them to ask them to cut the supply, then getting them under police surveilance when that failed. This last part is purely conjecture, but I'm guessing this is how the police managed to get Blake locked up on those other extraneous charges, considering they've been under the police radar since Amy's overdose. Sad tale of co-dependency indeed. At this point, seems like weaning her from that other addiction, her junkie husband is central to her helth as well Reading things like this makes me wish that mafia hits were legal because this guy needs to be taken the fuck out. Yeah, don't we all. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Ottensen said: JasmineFire said: it almost makes him sound like an enabler. i hope she can get better. An enabler? Try pusher man. He's a full blown crack and heroin addict whom her parents publically blame for introducing her to those drugs and getting her hooked. It's caused a very nasty public rift between the two families that even resulted in the fathers coming to blows a few months ago...namely Mr. Winehouse publically trying to choke the hell out of Blake's father during a drug intervention for the couple at a resort, after the first time she fell into a coma. Shortly after, for the first time the Fielder Civil's confessed they suspected their son had a heroin problem for years via several tv and radio programs in the EU, but could now confirm it in order to save his life. This is when the appeal for a boycott of Amy's music began, and the Winehouses were pissed because it took Amy overdosing for anyone to step up and reveal to them that heroin was involved in the scenario. Amy's mother (who battles MS and is normally very low-key), has said that she initially thought they were just dealing with her daughter's long term alcoholism and anorexia/bullemia issues until the intervention fiasco. She has been less than flatering in the portrait she paints of Blake as a lazy bum who lies around on the sofa all day watching the telly, around whom her daughter restricts the way she expresses herself when she has visited their home. The only thing both sets of parents have managed to accomplish together is identifying the couple's drug dealers, confronting them to ask them to cut the supply, then getting them under police surveilance when that failed. This last part is purely conjecture, but I'm guessing this is how the police managed to get Blake locked up on those other extraneous charges, considering they've been under the police radar since Amy's overdose. Sad tale of co-dependency indeed. At this point, seems like weaning her from that other addiction, her junkie husband is central to her helth as well DAMN, I didn't know she'd od'd & was in a friggin' coma before!!  AND anorexia/bulimia/alcoholism - oh my...   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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CalhounSq said: Ottensen said: An enabler? Try pusher man. He's a full blown crack and heroin addict whom her parents publically blame for introducing her to those drugs and getting her hooked. It's caused a very nasty public rift between the two families that even resulted in the fathers coming to blows a few months ago...namely Mr. Winehouse publically trying to choke the hell out of Blake's father during a drug intervention for the couple at a resort, after the first time she fell into a coma. Shortly after, for the first time the Fielder Civil's confessed they suspected their son had a heroin problem for years via several tv and radio programs in the EU, but could now confirm it in order to save his life. This is when the appeal for a boycott of Amy's music began, and the Winehouses were pissed because it took Amy overdosing for anyone to step up and reveal to them that heroin was involved in the scenario. Amy's mother (who battles MS and is normally very low-key), has said that she initially thought they were just dealing with her daughter's long term alcoholism and anorexia/bullemia issues until the intervention fiasco. She has been less than flatering in the portrait she paints of Blake as a lazy bum who lies around on the sofa all day watching the telly, around whom her daughter restricts the way she expresses herself when she has visited their home. The only thing both sets of parents have managed to accomplish together is identifying the couple's drug dealers, confronting them to ask them to cut the supply, then getting them under police surveilance when that failed. This last part is purely conjecture, but I'm guessing this is how the police managed to get Blake locked up on those other extraneous charges, considering they've been under the police radar since Amy's overdose. Sad tale of co-dependency indeed. At this point, seems like weaning her from that other addiction, her junkie husband is central to her helth as well DAMN, I didn't know she'd od'd & was in a friggin' coma before!! AND anorexia/bulimia/alcoholism - oh my... I know its so sad and she is only 24!!! My goodness, what her poor body has been through. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Sounds like the husband needs help too. They enable each other. | |
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missfee said: CalhounSq said: DAMN, I didn't know she'd od'd & was in a friggin' coma before!! AND anorexia/bulimia/alcoholism - oh my... I know its so sad and she is only 24!!! My goodness, what her poor body has been through. This JUST came in on television here in the EU today, was ugly and ominous to watch: Sunday night Amy Winehouse was found walking the streets outside her apartment in London half naked, crying and incoherent. 6am, stripped of any make-up or trademark beehive, she was barefoot, in only her jeans and bra in 40° winter tempatures. Onlookers said she looked scared and confused and could only say she was looking/waiting for 'him'. Photos were taken, have been on the tv, and it looked absolutely pitiful. Unless this is the beginning of the rock bottom that can turn an addict around, it just looks like a strong probability that this young woman simply may not make it, talent be damned. For the moment she has completely lost her mind | |
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Ottensen said: missfee said: I know its so sad and she is only 24!!! My goodness, what her poor body has been through. This JUST came in on television here in the EU today, was ugly and ominous to watch: Sunday night Amy Winehouse was found walking the streets outside her apartment in London half naked, crying and incoherent. 6am, stripped of any make-up or trademark beehive, she was barefoot, in only her jeans and bra in 40° winter tempatures. Onlookers said she looked scared and confused and could only say she was looking/waiting for 'him'. Photos were taken, have been on the tv, and it looked absolutely pitiful. Unless this is the beginning of the rock bottom that can turn an addict around, it just looks like a strong probability that this young woman simply may not make it, talent be damned. For the moment she has completely lost her mind 
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Crying shame.... she is obviously very damaged.
I have no experience in these situations but can they "her parents" or her management not have her sectioned under the mental health act just long enough to detoxify her system so she can think straight Is that an option for a junkie? as she is obviously not coping.... One minute they want peace……
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CalhounSq said: DAMN, I didn't know she'd od'd & was in a friggin' coma before!!
..and if that didn't make her get her sh!t together, nothing will. Like I stated in another thread, she's going to wind up like Layne, unfortunately. [Edited 12/4/07 5:57am] |
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