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Printablewhatsgoingon said: You guys continue to reinforce how weird Michael is by posting awful pictures of him. I don't for whose sakes this is for; yours or other people.
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floetcist said: It tore his family apart and he does not speak to his parents. WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS? Because it has nothing to do with MJ. The family being split apart is because they have issues. Jordan sued his father because in mid 2005 (now his father is suing him as well) his father tried to KILL HIM. How do I know this? COURT PAPERS. Jordan Chandler accuses his father of hitting him over the head with a 12-pound weight, spraying his eyes with mace and trying to choke him.
http://lawlibrary.rutgers...5.opn.html fcukthepolice said: Yeah i saw the video about three years ago MJ IS a pedo He sucked jordy chandeler's cock and ate his cum; YES jordy alleged this. SICK! Read the documents on smokinggun combined with all the other evidence there is no way Jordy made up detialed graphic account like that. It tore his family apart and he does not speak to his parents. It ruined him. Maybe if you actually read the site you're referring to, you'd know that it doesn't show that Michael is guilty LOL. What other "evidence" you speak of? What "evidence" is there, period? Disgusting. Yes MJ's actions are disgusting | |
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fcukthepolice said: floetcist said: It tore his family apart and he does not speak to his parents. WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS? Because it has nothing to do with MJ. The family being split apart is because they have issues. Jordan sued his father because in mid 2005 (now his father is suing him as well) his father tried to KILL HIM. How do I know this? COURT PAPERS. Jordan Chandler accuses his father of hitting him over the head with a 12-pound weight, spraying his eyes with mace and trying to choke him.
http://lawlibrary.rutgers...5.opn.html Maybe if you actually read the site you're referring to, you'd know that it doesn't show that Michael is guilty LOL. What other "evidence" you speak of? What "evidence" is there, period? Disgusting. Yes I am a slow individual who needs to be spoken to fiftylem times and still doesn't get the truth.  White Americans, what? Nothing better to do? Why don't you kick yourself out? You're an immigrant too. -White Stripes | |
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whatsgoingon said: illimack said: Not to turn this back into a vitiligo thread but since you called me out, I feel I must respond....( and yes I know the proper name of the disease...ever heard of a typo)? Anyhoo, I'm a bit older than you youngster, and I can call you that cause I have kids your aged. I was practically raised on MJ. I watched his every public move he made while I was growing up. I was totally in love with the man since I was 4 years old. uuring the 80's/90's,I watched him gradually become lighter and lighter. Never have I seen a photo of MJ with splotches, unless it's some doctored photo that I have an original "unsplotched" copy of, or some photo showing some body part with spots after he was already in his present condition. What did he do to himself? I have no idea. Now this depigmentation thing, why would it kill a person who doesn't have vitiligo, but not kill someone without it? Can you explain that please? Thank you. That has always been my problem with the vitiligo story. I have seen many people with vitilgo it is not has uncommon as people think. But never have I seen a person with vitilgo become gradually lighter the way Michael has. They initially have white splotches that become bigger but their complexion is rarely ever even unless they wear makeup. And when they do wear makeup it's usually the colour of their natural complexion. This was never the case with Michael. He went from a Mocha complexion to a caramel complexion to biege to white in a very even way. Why would he be wearing biege or caramel makeup when his natural complexion is a toffee like complexion and his patches are white, it doesn't make sense. However, I do know if you use bleaching creams over a long period of time they can discolour and damage your skin permanetly, thus one part of yor skin can have white patches and another part of your skin can look burnt. And that's why I say Michael vitiligo can be self-induced. [Edited 10/30/07 4:10am] This post should be printed and sent to the home address of every KOP fan. I have still never heard one of them answer this blindingly obvious point. How come he got gradually lighter and lighter over the years? To do that with vitiligo he would have had to lighten up his naturally dark skin and darken up his newly white skin at the same time. That would have taken hours and hours every day since you'd basically be doing two totally different things to get the same light brown result. He'd have had to do it every day on tour, whilst filming, and even whilst recording (since if he'd shown up to the studio all blotchy then we would definitely have heard about it by now). How plausible does any of that seem? Answer. Not very. Combine it with the white children he falsely claims as his own, the thinned out lips and nose, and the real story seems pretty obvious. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Your smoking gun with those Dick Pics are from the 2003 case. Sneddon fought to have those pics brought into the case, while MJ fought to keep them out. If they didnt match MJ would have wanted them in to destroy the 1993 section of the case.
Sneddon knew the case was close but knew the final nail are those photos. MJ knows it as well. You are not going to bring something into a case that was close...if they didnt match. WHY did MJ to fight to keep it out then, if they didnt match? | |
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ElectricBlue said: Your smoking gun with those Dick Pics are from the 2003 case. Sneddon fought to have those pics brought into the case, while MJ fought to keep them out. If they didnt match MJ would have wanted them in to destroy the 1993 section of the case.
Sneddon knew the case was close but knew the final nail are those photos. MJ knows it as well. You are not going to bring something into a case that was close...if they didnt match. WHY did MJ to fight to keep it out then, if they didnt match? Knowing MJ... he probably didn't wan't pictures of his alleged penis on display for all the world to see... Accurate or not, it's embarrassing either way... And Sneddon didn't really fight for those pictures, they were part of of the discovery for the 1993 case, they were irrelevent to the 2003 case What sneddon really wanted was jordy to testify, which he refused to... Everybody that MJ allegedly molsted testified except for Jordy, Now you have to understand that for this case MJ was innocent... doesn't necessarily not make him a pedophile, given the evidence for THIS case, he was innocent... there wasn't enough... The accusers were already tainted with alot of previous legality. Innocent was the only fair verdict... MJ's questionable history was really all the prosecution had... Which is kind of sad... There was no physical hard nailing evidence... Even the shrink that , Dr. Katsz who filed the allegations. said that Jackson wasn't a logical predator... even though there is a small strand of evidence that MJ might've molested jordy... There is no evidence that he molested the 2003 victim (i forget his name) The family was simply nuts Gloria Allrad knew it... Which is why she backed out of the case... Larry Feldman, backed out, and he was the original lawyer for Jordy... They knew what was up... Taking that case would've been legal suicide for a lawyer... Sneddon took it, cause he wanted MJ, Pure and simple Is MJ a pedophile? maybe... Did he molest Jordy? could be... 2003 kid? probably not... The fact is that family was just nutz... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: ElectricBlue said: Your smoking gun with those Dick Pics are from the 2003 case. Sneddon fought to have those pics brought into the case, while MJ fought to keep them out. If they didnt match MJ would have wanted them in to destroy the 1993 section of the case.
Sneddon knew the case was close but knew the final nail are those photos. MJ knows it as well. You are not going to bring something into a case that was close...if they didnt match. WHY did MJ to fight to keep it out then, if they didnt match? Knowing MJ... he probably didn't wan't pictures of his alleged penis on display for all the world to see... Accurate or not, it's embarrassing either way... And Sneddon didn't really fight for those pictures, they were part of of the discovery for the 1993 case, they were irrelevent to the 2003 case What sneddon really wanted was jordy to testify, which he refused to... Everybody that MJ allegedly molsted testified except for Jordy, Now you have to understand that for this case MJ was innocent... doesn't necessarily not make him a pedophile, given the evidence for THIS case, he was innocent... there wasn't enough... The accusers were already tainted with alot of previous legality. Innocent was the only fair verdict... MJ's questionable history was really all the prosecution had... Which is kind of sad... There was no physical hard nailing evidence... Even the shrink that , Dr. Katsz who filed the allegations. said that Jackson wasn't a logical predator... even though there is a small strand of evidence that MJ might've molested jordy... There is no evidence that he molested the 2003 victim (i forget his name) The family was simply nuts Gloria Allrad knew it... Which is why she backed out of the case... Larry Feldman, backed out, and he was the original lawyer for Jordy... They knew what was up... Taking that case would've been legal suicide for a lawyer... Sneddon took it, cause he wanted MJ, Pure and simple Is MJ a pedophile? maybe... Did he molest Jordy? could be... 2003 kid? probably not... The fact is that family was just nutz... wipes off spraypaint off of EW's back and hands him some grape drink  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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I knew in advance MJ fans would ignore the crucial points raised by whatsgoingon, illimac, and myself about the gradual lightening, and focus on the lame duck comments from Electric Blue instead. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: I knew in advance MJ fans would ignore the crucial points raised by whatsgoingon, illimac, and myself about the gradual lightening, and focus on the lame duck comments from Electric Blue instead.
Dude... This is the same dance different time I've explained it very scientifically in previous threads and i just get ignored... so here's my opinion Fuck Mj's Skin, Fuck you're assumptions about it And Fuck me for participating in yet another idiotic MJ Thread... It's like the critics are more obsessed with MJ than the fanatics... Cause wherever the fans go... I see the same critics here... You midnight, Whatsgoingon Do yourselves a favor, no not fuck yourself ... 
But just letitgo, either MJ or the rediculous skin lighteningg claims... Now i'm not saying abandone you're assumption but cease to bring it up, cause it's going no where... you're gonna say he did, MJ fans are gonna say he didn't and bring their tirade of pictures, it's so formuliac it's disgusting... So just letitgo... Unless you're the fucker who likes starting shit on the internet... In that case you can go fuck yourself... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: midnightmover said: I knew in advance MJ fans would ignore the crucial points raised by whatsgoingon, illimac, and myself about the gradual lightening, and focus on the lame duck comments from Electric Blue instead.
Dude... This is the same dance different time I've explained it very scientifically in previous threads and i just get ignored... so here's my opinion Fuck Mj's Skin, Fuck you're assumptions about it And Fuck me for participating in yet another idiotic MJ Thread... It's like the critics are more obsessed with MJ than the fanatics... Cause wherever the fans go... I see the same critics here... You midnight, Whatsgoingon Do yourselves a favor, no not fuck yourself ...
But just letitgo, either MJ or the rediculous skin lighteningg claims... Now i'm not saying abandone you're assumption but cease to bring it up, cause it's going no where... you're gonna say he did, MJ fans are gonna say he didn't and bring their tirade of pictures, it's so formuliac it's disgusting... So just letitgo... Unless you're the fucker who likes starting shit on the internet... In that case you can go fuck yourself... You don't have to get angry! I think a very valid point is being made here. Why would someone who has white splotches on Mocha coloured skin be using biege makeup on his skin? If we are to believe he was using makeup during the time of the Bad era to even out his skin and not using skin lightners then tell us why he would not apply Mocha makeup, which was more or less his natural complexion to cover up the white parts and even up his skin. | |
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whatsgoingon said: EmbattledWarrior said: Dude... This is the same dance different time I've explained it very scientifically in previous threads and i just get ignored... so here's my opinion Fuck Mj's Skin, Fuck you're assumptions about it And Fuck me for participating in yet another idiotic MJ Thread... It's like the critics are more obsessed with MJ than the fanatics... Cause wherever the fans go... I see the same critics here... You midnight, Whatsgoingon Do yourselves a favor, no not fuck yourself ...
But just letitgo, either MJ or the rediculous skin lighteningg claims... Now i'm not saying abandone you're assumption but cease to bring it up, cause it's going no where... you're gonna say he did, MJ fans are gonna say he didn't and bring their tirade of pictures, it's so formuliac it's disgusting... So just letitgo... Unless you're the fucker who likes starting shit on the internet... In that case you can go fuck yourself... You don't have to get angry! I think a very valid point is being made here. Why would someone who has white splotches on Mocha coloured skin be using biege makeup on his skin? If we are to believe he was using makeup during the time of the Bad era to even out his skin and not using skin lightners then tell us why he would not apply Mocha makeup, which was more or less his natural complexion to cover up the white parts and even up his skin. You're not sucking me into this... If you're really that interested in the subject... Go to your local dermatologist, and ask him/her I HAVE! but i had one in my family... But really go ask them you're questions stop bringing it up here... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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Um, anyway. I'll be looking forward into watching and reading this.
Turning White: A Memoir Of Change 
Watch the ‘Turning White’ documentary film live on the web @ myfoxdetroit.com November 3rd, 10:30pm or November 4th, 9:30am
Turning White: A Memior Of Change is available @ momentumbooks.com IN HIS THOUGHT-PROVOKING MEMOIR, Turning White, Emmy Award-winning TV broadcaster Lee Thomas shares the physical and mental battle he is waging with vitiligo — a skin disorder that is literally turning him white. At age 25, Thomas had a dream job in a dream city — a feature/entertainment reporter for the ABC network’s flagship TV station in New York. Then he discovered a few white spots on his scalp, the small beginnings of a disease that has spread to half his face — a fact he covers with makeup when on camera. As someone in the public eye, vitiligo has transformed not only Thomas’ color, but his life. “Even people who have known me for years avoid eye contact when they see my face without makeup for the first time,” he writes. Recently, Thomas turned the spotlight on himself during a special report for WJBK FOX 2 Detroit, where he is currently an entertainment reporter. “This is one black man’s story that is all about skin color, yet has absolutely nothing to do with racism.” — Lee Thomas LEE THOMAS is a playwright, journalist, and four-time Emmy Award-winning television broadcaster. Currently residing in Detroit, he is an anchor/entertainment reporter and regularly goes to Hollywood to chat with the stars. In 1996 he was diagnosed with the pigment disorder, vitiligo. White Americans, what? Nothing better to do? Why don't you kick yourself out? You're an immigrant too. -White Stripes | |
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floetcist said: Um, anyway. I'll be looking forward into watching and reading this.
Turning White: A Memoir Of Change
Watch the ‘Turning White’ documentary film live on the web @ myfoxdetroit.com November 3rd, 10:30pm or November 4th, 9:30am
Turning White: A Memior Of Change is available @ momentumbooks.com IN HIS THOUGHT-PROVOKING MEMOIR, Turning White, Emmy Award-winning TV broadcaster Lee Thomas shares the physical and mental battle he is waging with vitiligo — a skin disorder that is literally turning him white. At age 25, Thomas had a dream job in a dream city — a feature/entertainment reporter for the ABC network’s flagship TV station in New York. Then he discovered a few white spots on his scalp, the small beginnings of a disease that has spread to half his face — a fact he covers with makeup when on camera. As someone in the public eye, vitiligo has transformed not only Thomas’ color, but his life. “Even people who have known me for years avoid eye contact when they see my face without makeup for the first time,” he writes. Recently, Thomas turned the spotlight on himself during a special report for WJBK FOX 2 Detroit, where he is currently an entertainment reporter. “This is one black man’s story that is all about skin color, yet has absolutely nothing to do with racism.” — Lee Thomas LEE THOMAS is a playwright, journalist, and four-time Emmy Award-winning television broadcaster. Currently residing in Detroit, he is an anchor/entertainment reporter and regularly goes to Hollywood to chat with the stars. In 1996 he was diagnosed with the pigment disorder, vitiligo. looks nothing like jacko MJ bleached his skin | |
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walks in the thread
sees the same exact shit is being said and walks out, pulling floetcist away before she starts whupping people's ass "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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are there any ladies or adult men that fucked with MJ recently? | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: whatsgoingon said: You don't have to get angry! I think a very valid point is being made here. Why would someone who has white splotches on Mocha coloured skin be using biege makeup on his skin? If we are to believe he was using makeup during the time of the Bad era to even out his skin and not using skin lightners then tell us why he would not apply Mocha makeup, which was more or less his natural complexion to cover up the white parts and even up his skin. You're not sucking me into this... If you're really that interested in the subject... Go to your local dermatologist, and ask him/her I HAVE! but i had one in my family... But really go ask them you're questions stop bringing it up here... I am asking a valid question and if I get a valid answer I will be more prone to believe the vitiligo story. He has white splotches on meduim to dark brown skin, and instead of using the same kind of makeup to match his natural complexion he uses biege and caramel makeup before actually turns white, does that make sense? | |
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bboy87, sugar plum I know your concern but once I have my set on getting it on, theres not stopping me.
fcukthepolice said: floetcist said: Um, anyway. I'll be looking forward into watching and reading this.
Turning White: A Memoir Of Change
MJ bleached his skin You can't bleach you skin if you don't have vitiligo. How many times does one have to say that until you shut the hell up? looks nothing like jacko
(ignore the spiderbite) 
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whatsgoingon said: EmbattledWarrior said: You're not sucking me into this... If you're really that interested in the subject... Go to your local dermatologist, and ask him/her I HAVE! but i had one in my family... But really go ask them you're questions stop bringing it up here... I am asking a valid question and if I get a valid answer I will be more prone to believe the vitiligo story. He has white splotches on meduim to dark brown skin, and instead of using the same kind of makeup to match his natural complexion he uses biege and caramel makeup before actually turns white, does that make sense? I recommend that you ask a dermatologist. Whatever the fans tell you, there is bound to be skepticism on the other side. And this thread is bound to go to hell, like the other ones on his skin-color change. | |
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Damn thats a nasty spider bite, wtf was that a radioactive spider?
Lemme find out MJ can websling and climb walls! I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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so.....ya'll still arguing?  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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I know a dermatologist, who is not an MJ fan and who actually thinks he was guilty of those child molestation charges, who thinks MJ has vitiligo. She doesn't like him, and thinks he's a pedophile, but she admits, through all her medical and scientific knowledge, that he does have vitiligo. | |
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floetcist said:
and what excuse are you going to make up now? the bigger question is: how are you gonna wear some tight ass blue jeans and penny loafers?! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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DarlingDiana said: I know a dermatologist, who is not an MJ fan and who actually thinks he was guilty of those child molestation charges, who thinks MJ has vitiligo. She doesn't like him, and thinks he's a pedophile, but she admits, through all her medical and scientific knowledge, that he does have vitiligo.
HE DOES. That is a fact He has bleached his skin also | |
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fcukthepolice said: DarlingDiana said: I know a dermatologist, who is not an MJ fan and who actually thinks he was guilty of those child molestation charges, who thinks MJ has vitiligo. She doesn't like him, and thinks he's a pedophile, but she admits, through all her medical and scientific knowledge, that he does have vitiligo.
HE DOES. That is a fact He has bleached his skin also And whose to say the vitiligo didn't arise from the bleaching of the skin? I doubt he got it naturally. I mean depigmentation itself, which is used on vitiligo patients, is a kind of bleaching in itself, its just that it is permanent. | |
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whatsgoingon said: fcukthepolice said: HE DOES. That is a fact He has bleached his skin also And whose to say the vitiligo didn't arise from the bleaching of the skin? I doubt he got it naturally. I mean depigmentation itself, which is used on vitiligo patients, is a kind of bleaching in itself, its just that it is permanent. His granfather had vitiligo. So it's very possible he got it naturally. | |
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bboy87 said: walks in the thread
sees the same exact shit is being said and walks out, pulling floetcist away before she starts whupping people's ass Translation: they've spotted the hole in our story quick, let's get the hell out of here before we have to give an answer “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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EmbattledWarrior said: midnightmover said: I knew in advance MJ fans would ignore the crucial points raised by whatsgoingon, illimac, and myself about the gradual lightening, and focus on the lame duck comments from Electric Blue instead.
Dude... This is the same dance different time I've explained it very scientifically in previous threads and i just get ignored... so here's my opinion Fuck Mj's Skin, Fuck you're assumptions about it And Fuck me for participating in yet another idiotic MJ Thread... It's like the critics are more obsessed with MJ than the fanatics... Cause wherever the fans go... I see the same critics here... You midnight, Whatsgoingon Do yourselves a favor, no not fuck yourself ...
But just letitgo, either MJ or the rediculous skin lighteningg claims... Now i'm not saying abandone you're assumption but cease to bring it up, cause it's going no where... you're gonna say he did, MJ fans are gonna say he didn't and bring their tirade of pictures, it's so formuliac it's disgusting... So just letitgo... Unless you're the fucker who likes starting shit on the internet... In that case you can go fuck yourself... Well you're right about one thing. These threads are all the same, but you're wrong about who's responsible. All I'm doing is asking a question, and yet not a single one of you can give an answer to it. If someone here could display some intellectual honesty and ANSWER THE QUESTION then maybe this discussion could go somewhere. Instead we get a million pointless pictures, temper tantrums, and diversion tactics from the kop fans. Point blank. Failure to answer this question is an admission that your case is built on sand, since this is THE most important point. If you were sure of your case then you wouldn't run away from it. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: bboy87 said: walks in the thread
sees the same exact shit is being said and walks out, pulling floetcist away before she starts whupping people's ass Translation: they've spotted the hole in our story quick, let's get the hell out of here before we have to give an answer ummmmm..wrong "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: midnightmover said: Translation: they've spotted the hole in our story quick, let's get the hell out of here before we have to give an answer ummmmm..wrong Still waiting for an answer “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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