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Printablefloetcist said: midnightmover said: There was an article on it just the other day, about how many dark skinned Asian people are using bleaches to lighten their skin. But you have to understand, Michael once said there was "no such thing as skin bleaching". Therefore MJ fans don't think it's possible. I'm not talking about that king of skin bleaching. People that bleach their skin to remove scars and minor discolorations use creams with only hydroquinone, which is reversible and not permanent. This is why when you buy bleaching creams at the store, it will always tell you that the pigmentation you wanted to get rid of may reappear. Of course, there are skin bleach products. But none of them cause people to turn white like Michael Jackson has become in the past decade and a half. | |
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fcukthepolice said: floetcist said: God you're pathetic. You're one of the worst I've seen thus far, and trust, that is no easy feat. Bleaching yourself is impossible.   
The earth is flat! I have yet to see or hear about anyone else that has gone through a drastic change in skin color by just bleaching their skin with regular products. I know of people bleaching their skin, but if you pay them any real attention you will notice the inconsistencies, they get darker then they get lighter again, this because of what was mentioned before, hydroquinone is not permanent. Also, getting your hands on monobenzylether of hydroquinone is not easy. So I don’t want to hear the excuse that he just somehow got his hands on it. You have to be prescribed something like that from a dermatologist. People that bleach their skin do not spot. People with vitiligo have gotten to the point where their pigment has been totally stripped from all of the their body, they are typically snow white in color. Michael Jackson is very pale, even in comparison to white people. The only cases of such a drastic change in skin color that I’ve seen or read about are with vitiligo patients. If someone who does not have vitiligo were to bleach their skin with such a strong product, they would DIE. White Americans, what? Nothing better to do? Why don't you kick yourself out? You're an immigrant too. -White Stripes | |
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Rodya24 said: floetcist said: I'm not talking about that king of skin bleaching. People that bleach their skin to remove scars and minor discolorations use creams with only hydroquinone, which is reversible and not permanent. This is why when you buy bleaching creams at the store, it will always tell you that the pigmentation you wanted to get rid of may reappear. Of course, there are skin bleach products. But none of them cause people to turn white like Michael Jackson has become in the past decade and a half. yes they do His skin condition vitilago DOES NOT turn black people to white people; it cause patches. | |
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fcukthepolice said: Rodya24 said: Of course, there are skin bleach products. But none of them cause people to turn white like Michael Jackson has become in the past decade and a half. yes they do His skin condition vitilago DOES NOT turn black people to white people; it cause patches. Its spelled vitiligo. And Michael does have blotches. I've posted many candid pictures in the last debate we had. White Americans, what? Nothing better to do? Why don't you kick yourself out? You're an immigrant too. -White Stripes | |
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floetcist said: fcukthepolice said:
The earth is flat! I have yet to see or hear about anyone else that has gone through a drastic change in skin color by just bleaching their skin with regular products. I know of people bleaching their skin, but if you pay them any real attention you will notice the inconsistencies, they get darker then they get lighter again, this because of what was mentioned before, hydroquinone is not permanent. Also, getting your hands on monobenzylether of hydroquinone is not easy. So I don’t want to hear the excuse that he just somehow got his hands on it. You have to be prescribed something like that from a dermatologist. People that bleach their skin do not spot. People with vitiligo have gotten to the point where their pigment has been totally stripped from all of the their body, they are typically snow white in color. Michael Jackson is very pale, even in comparison to white people. The only cases of such a drastic change in skin color that I’ve seen or read about are with vitiligo patients. If someone who does not have vitiligo were to bleach their skin with such a strong product, they would DIE. LIE NO Vitiligo patients have ever turned from Black to pale white; IMPOSSIBLE!!!!! MJ bleached his skin; this is fact and is well documented. There is pics when he started to do it and his face is red. | |
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fcukthepolice said: floetcist said: I see a lot of people choose to not pay attention to what I wrote that CLEARLY displays all the information, and answers everything anyone has asked for. Yet everyone ignored my post (to continue with asking the same damn shit). How ironic.
Don't fucking compare Michael Jackson to OJ Simpson. I'm tired of that simple logic, weak "evidence" into how its the "samething". These are two VERY DIFFERENT cases, they couldn't have been more different. Two different prosecutions, two different subject matters, two different situations, two different backgrounds. OJ Simpson has nothing to do with Michael Jackson. NO, just because he is a black male celebrity who was found not guilty in court -- whom a lot of people felt that was guilty -- doesn't some how presumably apply to Michael Jackson as well. OJ IS A KILLER MJ IS A CHILD MOLESTER MJ IS WORSE by a fraction Dude, what are you twelve? Granted you can have any opinion you wan't But you sound like an asshole And nobody takes assholes seriously So grow up before i get one of the Mods to perform a Coup de grâce on you Play nice  I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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fcukthepolice said: Rodya24 said: Of course, there are skin bleach products. But none of them cause people to turn white like Michael Jackson has become in the past decade and a half. yes they do His skin condition vitilago DOES NOT turn black people to white people; it cause patches. Yes, vitiligo causes patches. But there are also two TYPES of vitiligo: focal and universal. Michael Jackson has the latter. Moreover, he underwent depigmentation. If one thinks that it is possible to go through with depigmentation without having vitiligo without DYING, that particular person needs to read some basic texts on dermatology. But this thread is not at all about his "skin-color change." It is on whether or not he is sexually attracted to male children. | |
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floetcist said: fcukthepolice said: yes they do His skin condition vitilago DOES NOT turn black people to white people; it cause patches. Its spelled vitiligo. And Michael does have blotches. I've posted many candid pictures in the last debate we had. He has vitiligo. He has bleached his skin The two things are not mutually exclusive | |
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fcukthepolice said: floetcist said: Its spelled vitiligo. And Michael does have blotches. I've posted many candid pictures in the last debate we had. He has vitiligo. He has bleached his skin The two things are not mutually exclusive Refer to above post. | |
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Rodya24 said:[quote] fcukthepolice said: yes they do His skin condition vitilago DOES NOT turn black people to white people; it cause patches. Yes, vitiligo causes patches. But there are also two TYPES of vitiligo: focal and universal. Michael Jackson has the latter. Moreover, he underwent depigmentation. If one thinks that it is possible to go through with depigmentation without having vitiligo without DYING, that particular person needs to read some basic texts on dermatology. But this thread is not at all about his "skin-color change." It is on whether or not he is sexually attracted to male children.[/quote] yes he is | |
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floetcist said: midnightmover said: There was an article on it just the other day, about how many dark skinned Asian people are using bleaches to lighten their skin. But you have to understand, Michael once said there was "no such thing as skin bleaching". Therefore MJ fans don't think it's possible. I'm not talking about that king of skin bleaching. People that bleach their skin to remove scars and minor discolorations use creams with only hydroquinone, which is reversible and not permanent. This is why when you buy bleaching creams at the store, it will always tell you that the pigmentation you wanted to get rid of may reappear. Even that kind of skin bleaching causes long term damage. Because not all people that use those creams are using them for minor discoloration  I have seen people who have used those creams on a long term basis and after awhile their skin becomes discoloured permanetly. I know one woman who after years of using these creams has started to show signs of acute discolouration, infact part of her face now has white patches as if she is in the initial stages of vitiligo but she ain't, it's the side effects of those bleaching creams. | |
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fcukthepolice said:[quote] Rodya24 said: fcukthepolice said: yes they do His skin condition vitilago DOES NOT turn black people to white people; it cause patches. Yes, vitiligo causes patches. But there are also two TYPES of vitiligo: focal and universal. Michael Jackson has the latter. Moreover, he underwent depigmentation. If one thinks that it is possible to go through with depigmentation without having vitiligo without DYING, that particular person needs to read some basic texts on dermatology. But this thread is not at all about his "skin-color change." It is on whether or not he is sexually attracted to male children.[/quote] yes he is Last warning dude I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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fcukthepolice said: floetcist said: I have yet to see or hear about anyone else that has gone through a drastic change in skin color by just bleaching their skin with regular products. I know of people bleaching their skin, but if you pay them any real attention you will notice the inconsistencies, they get darker then they get lighter again, this because of what was mentioned before, hydroquinone is not permanent. Also, getting your hands on monobenzylether of hydroquinone is not easy. So I don’t want to hear the excuse that he just somehow got his hands on it. You have to be prescribed something like that from a dermatologist. People that bleach their skin do not spot. People with vitiligo have gotten to the point where their pigment has been totally stripped from all of the their body, they are typically snow white in color. Michael Jackson is very pale, even in comparison to white people. The only cases of such a drastic change in skin color that I’ve seen or read about are with vitiligo patients. If someone who does not have vitiligo were to bleach their skin with such a strong product, they would DIE. LIE NO Vitiligo patients have ever turned from Black to pale white; IMPOSSIBLE!!!!! MJ bleached his skin; this is fact and is well documented. There is pics when he started to do it and his face is red. Bleaching your skin without DYING is fact, and is well documented. You say lie, point blank, with no presented factual and legit information and expect me to believe you? As far as I know, bleaching your skin won't make your face turn red. Michael was diagnosed with discoid lupus and vitiligo in 1984; both the prosecution and defense have confirmed that he does have vitiligo. You cannot dispute scientific facts and/or court evidence. White Americans, what? Nothing better to do? Why don't you kick yourself out? You're an immigrant too. -White Stripes | |
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whatsgoingon said: floetcist said: I'm not talking about that king of skin bleaching. People that bleach their skin to remove scars and minor discolorations use creams with only hydroquinone, which is reversible and not permanent. This is why when you buy bleaching creams at the store, it will always tell you that the pigmentation you wanted to get rid of may reappear. Even that kind of skin bleaching causes long term damage. Because not all people that use those creams are using them for minor discoloration I have seen people who have used those creams on a long term basis and after awhile their skin becomes discoloured permanetly. I know one woman who after years of using these creams has started to show signs of acute discolouration, infact part of her face now has white patches as if she is in the initial stages of vitiligo but she ain't, it's the side effects of those bleaching creams.I understand your opinion on this subject. I respect you as an orger; you are honest about your feelings about Michael Jackson and his music. And I think that is great. You are skeptical about the child molestation charges, while at the same time condemning the sleep overs. I wish more people were like you... Disappointed at what he has become, but skeptical about the most serious charges against him. | |
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fcukthepolice said: floetcist said: I have yet to see or hear about anyone else that has gone through a drastic change in skin color by just bleaching their skin with regular products. I know of people bleaching their skin, but if you pay them any real attention you will notice the inconsistencies, they get darker then they get lighter again, this because of what was mentioned before, hydroquinone is not permanent. Also, getting your hands on monobenzylether of hydroquinone is not easy. So I don’t want to hear the excuse that he just somehow got his hands on it. You have to be prescribed something like that from a dermatologist. People that bleach their skin do not spot. People with vitiligo have gotten to the point where their pigment has been totally stripped from all of the their body, they are typically snow white in color. Michael Jackson is very pale, even in comparison to white people. The only cases of such a drastic change in skin color that I’ve seen or read about are with vitiligo patients. If someone who does not have vitiligo were to bleach their skin with such a strong product, they would DIE. LIE NO Vitiligo patients have ever turned from Black to pale white; IMPOSSIBLE!!!!! MJ bleached his skin; this is fact and is well documented. There is pics when he started to do it and his face is red. Oh really? Org note PleasurePrinciple whose relative turned COMPLETELY WHITE because of vitiligo. And BTW, she thinks Michael Jackson is an example of self-hating black man because of his excessive plastic surgeries; at the same time, however, she believes he has vitiligo. | |
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Ellie said: From a friend of mine:
With papers like the Sun or Daily Mirrors he doesn't feel ashamed everyday? ===== A friend of mine once told me that in all his twenty years in the business, the only time he ever felt ashamed to call himself a journalist was the day after Martin Bashir’s ‘Living With Michael Jackson’ aired in the UK.  | |
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Rodya24 said: fcukthepolice said: LIE NO Vitiligo patients have ever turned from Black to pale white; IMPOSSIBLE!!!!! MJ bleached his skin; this is fact and is well documented. There is pics when he started to do it and his face is red. Oh really? Org note PleasurePrinciple whose relative turned COMPLETELY WHITE because of vitiligo. And BTW, she thinks Michael Jackson is an example of self-hating black man because of his excessive plastic surgeries; at the same time, however, she believes he has vitiligo. Guys get back on topic or this thread is going to be closed I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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Doesn't Michael Jackson have Lupus? | |
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Isel said: Doesn't Michael Jackson have Lupus?
Yes. Along with a host of other health problems.
But like EmbattledWarrior said, this thread is on whether or not he is sexually attracted to male children. A charming subject, I know. | |
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Rodya24 said: whatsgoingon said: Even that kind of skin bleaching causes long term damage. Because not all people that use those creams are using them for minor discoloration I have seen people who have used those creams on a long term basis and after awhile their skin becomes discoloured permanetly. I know one woman who after years of using these creams has started to show signs of acute discolouration, infact part of her face now has white patches as if she is in the initial stages of vitiligo but she ain't, it's the side effects of those bleaching creams.I understand your opinion on this subject. I respect you as an orger; you are honest about your feelings about Michael Jackson and his music. And I think that is great. You are skeptical about the child molestation charges, while at the same time condemning the sleep overs. I wish more people were like you... Disappointed at what he has become, but skeptical about the most serious charges against him. Thanks for that. I am not going to sit down here and say MJ is a Pedo because as many people have said he was found NOt guilty in the court of law, and after 100 search warrants I would have expected a little more concrete evidence than they produced during the trial. I think even hard-nose journalist like Diane Dimond probably expected a bit more concrete evidence than what they produced at the trial. However I think fans are missing the point why so many people still think he is a pedo inspite of the Not Guilty verdict. It's not that they just want to hate him, it's just that his behaviour of making the sleepovers almost a habit is deem inappropriate for an adult, male or female. I mean if that were your neighbour doing a similar thing wouldn't you be doubtful of that neighbour even if there were no other evidence to prove he was a Pedo? And it's the same doubts every one else has of MJ; why would a fully, grown man want to have children has his bed partners, not once or twice but almost as a habit. [Edited 10/28/07 9:37am] | |
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I think that he's not a child molester but that his love for children, young boys, is not normal. | |
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Rodya24 said: Isel said: Doesn't Michael Jackson have Lupus?
Yes. Along with a host of other health problems.
But like EmbattledWarrior said, this thread is on whether or not he is sexually attracted to male children. A charming subject, I know. Okie dokie.
As far as MJ's being a pedophile, the only thing I know for sure is that he "settled" the first "case" against him, and then he was found not-guilty in the most recent trial. I think it appears he has a strong "connection" with children. That's all I really can add. | |
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Isel said: Rodya24 said: Yes. Along with a host of other health problems.
But like EmbattledWarrior said, this thread is on whether or not he is sexually attracted to male children. A charming subject, I know. Okie dokie.
As far as MJ's being a pedophile, the only thing I know for sure is that he "settled" the first "case" against him, and then he was found not-guilty in the most recent trial. I think it appears he has a strong "connection" with children. That's all I really can add. His INSURANCE company settled the first case and get back to the topic I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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floetcist said: fcukthepolice said: LIE NO Vitiligo patients have ever turned from Black to pale white; IMPOSSIBLE!!!!! MJ bleached his skin; this is fact and is well documented. There is pics when he started to do it and his face is red. Bleaching your skin without DYING is fact, and is well documented. You say lie, point blank, with no presented factual and legit information and expect me to believe you? As far as I know, bleaching your skin won't make your face turn red. Michael was diagnosed with discoid lupus and vitiligo in 1984; both the prosecution and defense have confirmed that he does have vitiligo. You cannot dispute scientific facts and/or court evidence. If you put a bleaching agent on your skin; it will be red. If you put any irritant on your skin; it will be red. I have already said YES he does have vitiligo so what the hell are you talking about. NOBODY has ever turned from a black boy to a white women from vitiligo | |
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I'll start!
i thought the documentery, was like a good BJ, but right when you're on the brink the girl/guy pops it out and starts masturbating you to a completion. I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: Isel said: Okie dokie.
As far as MJ's being a pedophile, the only thing I know for sure is that he "settled" the first "case" against him, and then he was found not-guilty in the most recent trial. I think it appears he has a strong "connection" with children. That's all I really can add. His INSURANCE company settled the first case and get back to the topic Oh.. I stand corrected. Are you a mod?
I thought I was on topic. But that's ok. I'll just leave the thread. I was just inquiring about Michael's health which doesn't appear to be too good. Sorry.. Carry-on. | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: Isel said: Okie dokie.
As far as MJ's being a pedophile, the only thing I know for sure is that he "settled" the first "case" against him, and then he was found not-guilty in the most recent trial. I think it appears he has a strong "connection" with children. That's all I really can add. His INSURANCE company settled the first case and get back to the topic
MJ agreed to settle the case becuase he did it and would of been found guilty | |
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fcukthepolice said: EmbattledWarrior said: His INSURANCE company settled the first case and get back to the topic
MJ agreed to settle the case becuase he did it and would of been found guilty [snip-don't make these debates personal- sos] I am probably, when it comes to mj, the most reliable source, In 2005 when the courts went back to the 1993 case it was confirmed that MJ's insurance carrier paid the initial settlement This came out in court, and in the smoking gun website So shut the hell up, it's even on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/w...el_Jackson I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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Vitiligo NHS Link: http://www.nhsdirect.nhs....ctionId=11
BBC Radio 4: Read and listen to a Sri Lankan woman who had to come to terms with the skin condition vitiligo, which caused her to lose the pigment in the skin over her entire body. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radi...deep.shtml | |
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fcukthepolice said: EmbattledWarrior said: His INSURANCE company settled the first case and get back to the topic
MJ agreed to settle the case becuase he did it and would of been found guilty Yeah.. OK.. just a quick response because this isn't about the documentary, I just think celebrities sometimes prefer to settle out of court or whatever rather than go through the legal process due to fear. The thing is that they have the money to settle.. to try to make it all go away which is a huge mistake--obviously. But maybe in this case... both Michael and the boy involved had so much to lose. Definitely though, Michael has a connection with children, and some untraditional ways of trying to be close. I guess, a person would have to decide to believe the guy is a pedophile or not. For me.. I'm just not sure... exactly.. Definitely, Michael has set-up a really bad situation where there is a lot of speculation--that's for sure. | |
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