pacey68 said:

Yeah you're right.

totaldiva said:

It was disgusting. The book claimed that Michael gave Jordan an STD. It was filthy and vile. I honestly have a hard time believing most of the stuff in there and since the uncle helped co-write it (I believe) it makes me believe that stuff even less. It looks like he is after money to me. I know what you're saying though about where there is smoke there is usually fire but sometimes I just don't know what to think. There have been times when I read things about Michael and those allegations and thought to myself "Well damn, what if he really did do it" because I have to think that not everyone can be lying on him, but then i'll read something else about the cases that will make me think he didn't do it. From what i've read about those cases though there is more reason for me to believe he is innocent than not. I just really don't think he'd do something like that and I hope I'm right. I've been a supporter for so long and it would kill me to think he could do something like that.

Something that has always bothered me though which is something i've never brought up at MJ's fan sites 'cause I know everyone would jump down my throat for it, but I've read where the ex-Jackson 5 drummer Johnny said that Michael was molested as a child and witnessed this himself by accident. Two things happen when people are molested, they either grow up to be child molestors themselves or they don't but that's just something that has always bothered me and I believe this might have happened to Michael too b/c I don't see why Johnny would have any reason to lie about something like that.
[Edited 10/24/07 17:16pm]

Rhondab said:

Yeah, he is a stubborn jackass

bboy87 said:

I heard about that. Now THAT was some bullshit. In her book, Margaret Maldonado, Jermaine's former girlfriend, said her sons always came back home happy from spending time with Mike, who was said to have helped them with their homework.

Timmy84 said:

Helped them with their homework? Michael can't even spell pen

Timmy84 said:

Helped them with their homework? Michael can't even spell pen

bboy87 said:

But he'll settle if its a boss lady whose initials GR

floetcist said:

That's his down-ass ride-or-die chick!

Timmy84 said:

Yep. The best books on MJ to read are:
The Magic And The Madness(FIRST edition)
Jackson Family Values(Margaret's book)
The Michael Jackson Conspiracy(by Aphrodite Jones)
and if you just wanna know about the music:
For The Record(My name's in it ya'll! )

and Timmy84, why haven't you put your nwo status in you sig?!

YOU'RE A MEMBER 4 LIFE!!!!!

I only speak the trufusus.

bboy87 said:

Cross that shit out. That was nothing but fanfiction. You'd have to be MJ (and everyone else mentioned in that book)'s shadow in order to know all the mess he wrote in that book.

bboy87 said:

Damn, all that ass, lol! And they call her "Scary" Spice? BOOTY SPICE!

If it's true than Bob Jones is just as much to blame as michael, he harbored the information for years
He's an acomplice
simple as that

Wacko is clearly a pedophile

I can't believe fanatics are in denial.


He is 100% a pedophile; no doubt about it

If it's true than Bob Jones is just as much to blame as michael, he harbored the information for years
He's an acomplice
simple as that

fcukthepolice said:

Who knows, it is supsect to pay off accusers. Because if there was no truth in the accusations you would end up having to pay off every little boy you'd ever met. They'd all come forth wanting some free cash.

What is the stock MJ fan response to Jordy being able to describe the unique blotches of the underside of his penis? That is near enough the core reason he got the biggest payout of all.

I'm sure all UK orgers will have just seen the Channel 4 documentary on MJ. Well, it was filled with factual inaccuracies from the clueless narrator, but nonetheless, it bore out many things I've been saying for years. For instance how he deliberately constructed the Wacko Jacko image as a smokescreen for what was really going on. That way when people saw him with little boys they would just see it as one of his many eccentricities. Even that fool J Randy Taraborelli spoke sense elsewhere when he said how Mike had used his "lost childhood" as an excuse for his bizarre behaviour.

However, what really left my jaw on the floor was seeing Mike's long term associate Bob Jones hanging Mike out to dry. He spoke of how Mike had spent a whole day and night in a hotel room with 13 year old Jordy on the pretense that they had flu. Jones strongly suggested the flu story was bogus and implied that untoward things were happening in there. He also admitted they invented the KOP title themselves at Mike's request, but most of us knew that anyway. He says he was fired because he tended to tell Mike the truth and Mike didn't want to hear the truth. He got no severance pay and is obviously angry though he mainly expressed it with looooong loaded silences in the interview.

It's late now and I'm just typing this out quick so hopefully it's makng sense. Anyway, even though I don't feel the doc told me anything I didn't already know, I left it feeling sad and sorry for Mike. I always said Mike lost his soul a little after the first allegations, and even though he was acquited in 2005 I think he's nonetheless destroyed. It all stems from some genes he was born with that made him attracted to little boys. I have no intention of debating that point. I'm just expressing my sorrow. He inspired me so much as a kid that it's sad to see all that talent and success couldn't save him from the demons inside. I miss Mike.

EmbattledWarrior said:

I have never been impress by what any of Michael ex-employees have to say. The fact that they all continued to work for a man who they now claim is a Child molestor boggles the mind. Not one of these so-called ex-employees ever contacted the police or children services over their boss's unhealthy interest in boys. None of them even resigned from their jobs, instead they continued to work for a "child abuser" until he sack them for some unrelated reason. And then all of a sudden he is a child abuser. It is this kind of action that made their testimony at the trial less than credible.

Bob JOnes should have quit Michael's employment years ago considering he was Michael's PR spokes person, I guess it must have been killing him with all that lying he had to do on behalf of MJ.Not.

totaldiva said:

It was disgusting. The book claimed that Michael gave Jordan an STD. It was filthy and vile. I honestly have a hard time believing most of the stuff in there and since the uncle helped co-write it (I believe) it makes me believe that stuff even less. It looks like he is after money to me. I know what you're saying though about where there is smoke there is usually fire but sometimes I just don't know what to think. There have been times when I read things about Michael and those allegations and thought to myself "Well damn, what if he really did do it" because I have to think that not everyone can be lying on him, but then i'll read something else about the cases that will make me think he didn't do it. From what i've read about those cases though there is more reason for me to believe he is innocent than not. I just really don't think he'd do something like that and I hope I'm right. I've been a supporter for so long and it would kill me to think he could do something like that.

Something that has always bothered me though which is something i've never brought up at MJ's fan sites 'cause I know everyone would jump down my throat for it, but I've read where the ex-Jackson 5 drummer Johnny said that Michael was molested as a child and witnessed this himself by accident. Two things happen when people are molested, they either grow up to be child molestors themselves or they don't but that's just something that has always bothered me and I believe this might have happened to Michael too b/c I don't see why Johnny would have any reason to lie about something like that.
[Edited 10/24/07 17:16pm]

SpecialEd said:

There was no match there. MJ would be in jail now if there was. People should read Geraldine Hughe's book, 'REDEMPTION'. It is such an eye- opener. Did you know that the Chandlers could have gotten money and still sent MJ to prison? Why not send this man to prison if he abused your child.

Wacko is clearly a pedophile

I can't believe fanatics are in denial.


He is 100% a pedophile; no doubt about it

mrsnet said:

Every account I've ever seen says Jordy described distinctive markings on the underside (i.e. would have to be erect to see them) to a tee. Why doesn't every accusation get a multi-million dollar payout?

That the parents he buys off prefer a payday to a criminal prosecution doesn't invalidate the fact they had dirt on him in every situation. Otherwise like I said every single boy who had ever innocently been around him would want a free payday.

mrsnet said:

Every account I've ever seen says Jordy described distinctive markings on the underside (i.e. would have to be erect to see them) to a tee. Why doesn't every accusation get a multi-million dollar payout?

That the parents he buys off prefer a payday to a criminal prosecution doesn't invalidate the fact they had dirt on him in every situation. Otherwise like I said every single boy who had ever innocently been around him would want a free payday.

fcukthepolice said:

100% pedophiles do not molest two children in 20 years. Pedophiles molest by the hundreds.
If he was such a pedophile, why did Jordy's father go to a lawyer first instead of the police? Why did Jordy's father offer to accept money in exchange for silence? What parent would take a pay-out and let a pedophile walk the street?

fcukthepolice said:

100% pedophiles do not molest two children in 20 years. Pedophiles molest by the hundreds.
If he was such a pedophile, why did Jordy's father go to a lawyer first instead of the police? Why did Jordy's father offer to accept money in exchange for silence? What parent would take a pay-out and let a pedophile walk the street?