bboy87 said:

wait, those arent facts....SHOW US THE MONEY!!!

Man, this thread has been outrageous.

Anyway much better, bboy.

Timmy84 said:

no, those sales in the UK mean nothing...they arent based on "hunches" or "conjectures".

Did you stop for a second that Janet only has 7 albums in her back catalog?

sosgemini said:

No I meant it's good his info didn't flood the board.

bboy87 said:

You've just confirmed what I told you all along. In this country Janet was a medium sized star. Control only made No. 8. RN made No.4. She's only had one Number One album in the UK compared to nine by Madonna and nine by Michael. Her last two albums were twenty-four-carrot-flops as your data shows. Even her Greatest Hits album released at the height of her career only made No. 2. Madonna's greatest hits, The Immaculate Collection by contrast is the tenth biggest selling album in the history of the UK charts. I don't like to harp on something like this, but it's the fact that you are proving yourself wrong without realising it that is so galling. Tell me the website you got that info from and I'll go there and dig up some stats for Madonna, Whitney, Mike and Prince. Maybe then you'll be convinced.

Timmy84 said:

midnightmover said:

too late.

sosgemini said:

Like anybody has time to read all that shit.

floetcist said:

Well, considering that her last two albums did terrible not only in the US but worldwide.... Perhaps she will sell another one hundred million with her next upcoming albums.

midnightmover said:

Janet's last two albums are post Superbowl FCC/MTV blacklisted = no radio air play, promotion of any sort. You can't even bring those two up. Look how well All For You did? The post 2004 albums would of done just as well. Though it looks like MTV will be getting over it now that LA Reid is handling business (Virgin was a mess and a half). And Janet's album statistics haven't been re-certified in such a long time its ridiculous.

My point is that you're trying to downplay all of Janet's achievements, and your pick and choosing the stats you want to so it fits your argument. Look at how many of the bold print that neither Michael, Prince, Mariah, Whitney or Madonna haven't surpassed/made? Or did you just skim through it?

Man, HOW LONG HAS THIS HORSE BEEN STANKIN!?! Ain't it dead already? Shit, all them flies and you out here with bats beating the horse. This ain't a toy, get the fuck out of here!

sosgemini said:

too late. [/quote]
I notice you've chosen not to give me the website address. I can only surmise that you realise how wrong you've been and would rather be spared the ordeal of having it shown so clearly.

Rodya24 said:

midnightmover said:

im sorry but what does your request have to do with the price of tea in china? why the hell would i provide a link to a source i never used? does this have to do with your "hunch" again?

floetcist said:

On the contrary, you and others in the Janet Jackson brigade seem to be under the impression that she is an international icon, when she is far from it.

And was not her sales were on the decline since The Velvet Rope. And moreover, I heard that the AFY tour was far from the blockbuster that was the Confessions tour. Was there not quite a bit of empty seats? Please let me know if this is true or not. I do not want to be accused of "making up" my statements.

floetcist said:

You is dumb. Compare the accomplishments in Rodya's lists to the ones in yours. "Best selling female artist in UK chart history". "Twenty five No. 1 singles on the international charts". "Sixteen No. 1 singles on the Euro chart". How many number ones did Janet have on the Euro charts? One. Case closed. Don't even get started on the international album sales, lol.

Rodya24 said:

dont forget that All For You went platinum in the UK alone..further proof she had zero cultural impact in Great Britain...which was your original claim...right?

midnightmover said:

There is zero need to make these debates personal...Judging folks intellect is not productive nor does it have any place within this discussion.

sosgemini said:

Where did I write that she has "zero cultural impact in Great Britain"?

sosgemini said:

A source you never used? You posted a list of Janet's Chart history in the UK, (which confirmed what I'd been telling you all along). If you were really interested in establishing the truth about Janet's success then you would want to put up some other artist's UK Chart historys for comparison. That would be reasonable and logical. The fact that you are basically chickening out and not doing that shows that you know the game is up and you're now just trying to save face.

God, please forgive all of us for we know not what we really do.

:slaps forward:

Why did you ignore the fact that Janet's back catalog is much smaller then the others you're comparing her to? Doesn't Madonna have fiftylem albums? I'd say for someone who has no more than 8 or 9 records, she kept up with those "superior" artists quite well.

Michael Jackson still babysits all them fools (don't you dare make a joke out of that). Not including his Jackson 5 records and early J5 solo albums, and only has 7 adult albums ---- he has surpassed The Beatles and Elvis Presley. AND he OWNS their catalogs. He is in a league of his own. They can't touch is lacefront.

sosgemini said:

HELLO! ---->

If this thread keeps up, somebody's gonna get hurt. Y'all chill out. Got damn!

midnightmover said:

i never posted that sh*t.

floetcist said:

And that's the bottom line.

Now let's get back to Marlon's forgotten (again) ass. DAMN!

floetcist said:

Madonna does not have 50 albums. She has about a dozen studio albums and several compilations.

Rodya24 said:

so you would like to clarify this statement? feel free:

sosgemini said:

See? Got so mad she forgot who really posted it.

IMHO, charts and sales are bullshit, they just gives the artist more clout and money!

Again why are we arguing over two rich motherfucking women! GOOD LORD!