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Printablebboy87 said: Timmy84 said: That's what happens when Jackson fans collide, you get into a World War III breakdown. 
I've decided to lay low. Any more crazy-ass shit comes out of people's mouths, I'm gonna fuck the threads up.
And whatever y'all do, don't divulge into a 10-page thread, I'm gonna be watching y'all...  
[Edited 10/11/07 17:44pm] I'll be fucking it along with you
I'm still trying to wrap my mind about this latest revelation of Marlon's sexuality 
And while this is all goin on..... 
just as long as they ain't talkin' about my ass, this is gonna be good ROFLMAO 
Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: Someone just announced that they had Sunny Delight! Nah, he was wilding out because he saw that they had Grape Drink in the fridge.
That was from Dave Chappelle: "what the fuck is JUICE? I want some grape drink, baby!" I LOVE that. Still haven't found the opportunity to incorperate that in my vocabulary yet/use that in a sentence. Rodya24 said: paisleypark4 said: what she ever do? Her homophobia is disturbing. You haven't seen nothing yet. Let me find that Joesph and that Jackson family friend (I keep forgetting his damn name) interview. Oh God it was so sad, particularly what Joe send in response to the interviewer mentioning that Michael used to regurgitate at the mere presence/sight of him. MikeMatronik said: Damm! I never expect the thread 2 have 4 pages!
Its a Michael Jackson thread
Cinnamon234 said: Timmy84 said: Even I'm a Janet fan and I know Michael and Madonna whup her in the popularity department.
Why is this even a discussion? I thought this was about Marlon.
Anyway, I thought Marlon WASN'T at Michael's trial... nice to see it though, thanks. 50 years old and looks 30. REAL Black don't crack. Except if your name is Jasmine Guy but other than that I agree that this thread has gotten off topic (as usual) and yes Marlon looks great for his age. Most of the Jackson siblings except for the obvious two look good though. Rebbie is almost 60 and looks amazing for her age. Even Katherine looks good. Most of them are aging very well. Thats what kills me with these Caucasian [some] MJ fans. They talking about how 'good' MJ looks at his age, and not many men who are 50 look as good as Michael.  They don't understand when people say Michael looked better when he was young. I hear dumb shit like “He’s not in his 20’s anymore , you should consider that." THATS what you think people say that for?! So you’re implying that he looks 'good for his age' the way he does because of natural aging? Maybe they should consider that the reason why he looks the way he does now is because he hacked the hell out of his nose, added an unnecessary cleft into his chin, and his cheekbones are sunken in. Giving me this "People get older and their appearance changes" and this & that. This does not apply to Michael Jackson. Unless you can point out to me someone who by nature, turned into a ghoulish looking creature from an attractive African American man, I’ll shut up.
This is what I said onto one delusional zealot on MJNO (aka I THINK THIS THREAD SHOULD BE CLOSED! central). Have you ever stop to consider that michael may be telling the truth about the extent of his plastic surgery and that his face may not be as drastically altered at all, but may have changed through style of hair and make-up as well of the change in skin tone, not to mention the aging process. I have heard so many people compare him to 25 year old image and say he used to be so good looking. Michael could never have looked the same as he looked then, no matter how hard he tried. Taking these factors into consideration, MJ looks better that many 49 year old men. When people keep telling you something is ugly for long enough, you may end up believeing it. Many people who have met Michael personally have come away with a different report. Don’t forget that the media have altered many of his images, or even used imposters to make MJ fit the image they convey. That image is not what I see when MJ is seen live on tv.
That is so far from the truth I can’t believe you even typed that with a straight face. Aging process my ass. Ever heard the term ‘black don’t crack’? Black people do not age as quickly as White people. Look at the rest of Michael’s family for God’s sake! None of them look that “old”, now do they? The same couldn’t be applied to Michael, why not? MICHAEL HAS BROTHERS OLDER THAN HIM BY THE DECADES. And they all look relatively the same as their yesteryears. Katie [his mother] is somewhere pushing 80 years old, yet shes been looking the same as she was in the 1970s, as far back as the footage you can find in the media. Yes Michael has had several different hairstyles, but those are only minor changes. Its not significant enough to bring up in his drastic change in his appearance. I think this is all denial. I’ve even heard some MJ fans tell me “Michael hasn’t changed that much” or actually believe him when he says he’s only had 2 nose jobs. On "Living With Michael Jackson" he says he hasn’t gotten his chin done with a cleft. In 1988, in his autobiography "Moonwalk" he admits that he did. How can you forget something like that? ‘…as I can remember’. I’m sure I’m going to get a lot of backlash for saying this, but it needs to be said and badly, by far. They hate me for saying this shit White Americans, what? Nothing better to do? Why don't you kick yourself out? You're an immigrant too. -White Stripes | |
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midnightmover said: sosgemini said: most of the claims are subjective pop-culture statements...its best to state things as opinion versus fact. thats the only point i am trying to make...i am not arguing specifics because you can't really argue something that is subjective. and expecially when we are dealing with cultures that we arent familiar with...i am not going to make claim to knowing the pulse of the entire world...yet rodya24 does, hence me telling him to tone down the rhetoric...its only an opinion. This is not subjective. I saw Janet live in 1995. She played three nights at Wembley Arena. Well, Prince sold out nineteen nights at the same venue, so that gives you some idea of the gulf in popularity. Madge sold out Wembley Stadium three nights (which is about 5 or 6 times bigger than the arena). MJ sold out five nights at the stadium. Go and take a look at Janet's sales figures outside the US and compare them with Whitney, Bon Jovi, Guns & Roses, Tina Turner, etc., etc. Growing up it was always strange to me to realise just how intoxicated America seemed with her, because over here it wasn't the same. Hell, Bobby Brown in 1989 was way bigger here than Janet was at any point in her career. That's not a subjective statement. The figures will back me up on that. I'm a lazy bastard by nature so I'm not gonna go hunting for them, but if you want to, you can. * In 2007, Jackson's Control and janet. were listed by the National Association of Recording Merchandisers and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as two of the 200 Definitive Albums of All Time, coming in at #87 and #151, respectively.[30] * In 2007, Jackson was named by Forbes and E! Entertainment Television as one of the twenty richest women in entertainment, coming in at #7.[31] * According to the 2007 edition of the Guinness Book of Records, Jackson is the most-searched person on the web.[32] * So far in her career, Jackson has sold more than 75 million albums worldwide and more than 70 million singles worldwide.[33] * In 2003, Jackson's Design of a Decade 1986/1996, Rhythm Nation 1814, Control, janet. and The Velvet Rope were listed on the BMG Music Club's 100 Biggest Selling Albums in the U.S. coming in at #9, #35, #58, #63 and #95, respectively.[34] * In 2003, Jackson's The Velvet Rope and Rhythm Nation 1814 were named by Rolling Stone Magazine as two of The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time, coming in at #256 and #275, respectively.[35] * Jackson's "Scream", with brother Michael, is featured in the Guinness Book of Records as the Most Expensive Music Video Ever Made. The video is the most expensive of all time at a cost of USD 7 million.[36] * "Scream" also became the first single in Billboard history to debut in the Top 5 on Billboard's Hot 100 Singles chart. The single also made the highest debut on the Hot Dance Club Play chart at number twelve. [37] * Jackson's HBO special, The Velvet Rope: Live in Madison Square Garden, was watched by more than 15 million viewers and garnered 13 Emmy nominations. The two-hour concert crushed the ratings of all four major networks in homes that subscribed to HBO.[38] * Debuting at #19 on Billboard Radio Monitor R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay chart, Jackson's "Call on Me" is the highest debuting single on that chart since TLC's "No Scrubs" debuted at no.13 in February, 1999.[39] * Jackson's janet. became the first album from a female artist to debut at #1 on the Billboard 200 Albums chart during the Nielsen SoundScan era.[40] * Despite releasing only three albums in the 1990s, Jackson was named by Billboard as the second biggest artist of the decade, behind only Mariah Carey. [41] * Jackson is the only female artist in history to have five back-to-back #1 studio albums on the U.S. Billboard 200 albums chart. [42] [b] * Jackson is the first artist to have #1 singles on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 singles chart in the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s. [43] * Jackson is the only artist to have seven top five singles on the Hot 100 from one album , specifically Rhythm Nation 1814. [44] * With sixteen #1 hits on the Billboard Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks chart, Jackson is the female artist with the second most #1 singles on that chart, second only to Aretha Franklin who has eighteen. [45] * Janet's biggest selling single worldwide is "Together Again"; in 1998 it was the 4th biggest selling single of the year in Europe (2nd biggest for a female, only outsold by Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On"). Worldwide sales according to Virgin Records are over 6 million copies, one of the largest selling singles ever from a female artist. "Together Again" spent nearly 50 weeks in the Top 50 of the Billboard Hot 100, it also remains one of the longest charting hits in Billboard history. "Together Again" sold over 760,000 in the UK making it one of the biggest selling singles ever in the UK from a female artist, "Together Again" sold over 600,000 copies in Germany also earned a Platinum certification just 2 months after it was released. "Together Again", also went Platinum in the Netherlands, France, Belgium, South Africa, Italy, and even went Double Platinum in New Zealand.[46] Grammy Awards * 1990: Best Long Form Music Video: Rhythm Nation 1814 * 1993: Best R&B Song: That's The Way Love Goes * 1995: Best Short Form Music Video: Scream * 1998: Best Short Form Music Video: Got 'Til It's Gone * 2002: Best Dance Recording: All For You * 2002: Recording Academy's Governors Award NOTE: Janet is the only performer male or female to be nominated for Grammy Awards in Pop, Rock, Dance, Rap and R&B, and the first female recording artist of color to be nominated for a Producer Of The Year Grammy. American Music Awards * 1987: Favorite Soul/R&B Single: Nasty * 1987: Favorite Soul/R&B Female Video Artist * 1988: Favorite Pop/Rock Video: When I Think Of You * 1988: Favorite Soul/R&B Video: When I Think Of You * 1990: Favorite Soul/R&B Single: Miss You Much * 1990: Favorite Dance Single: Miss You Much * 1991: Favorite Soul/R&B Female Artist * 1991: Favorite Pop/Rock Female Artist * 1991: Favorite Dance Artist * 1999: Favorite Soul/R&B Female Artist * 2001: American Music Award Of Merit * 2002: Favorite Pop/Rock Female Artist NOTE: Janet's No.1 album "Control" received a record 9 nominations in 1987, and 3 more in 1988 still til this date has not been broken. MTV Video Music Awards * 1987: Best Choreography in a Video: Nasty * 1988: Best Choreography in a Video: The Pleasure Principle * 1990: Best Choreography in a Video: Rhythm Nation * 1990: Video Vanguard * 1991: Best Female Video: Love Will Never Do (Without You) * 1994: Best Female Video: If * 1995: Best Dance Video: Scream * 1995: Best Choreography: Scream * 1995: Best Art Direction: Scream * 2001: mtvICON Award o 1994: Best Female Performance: Poetic Justice o 1994: Most Desirable Female: Poetic Justice Note: Janet was the first artist to win the mtvICON Award, she passed the award down to Aerosmith the following year. MTV Movie Awards * 1994: Best Female Performance: Poetic Justice * 1994: Most Desirable Female: Poetic Justice MTV Japan Video Music Awards * 2004: Special Inspiration Award Billboard Music Awards * 1986: Top Black Artist (combined LPs & singles) * 1986: Top Black Singles Artist * 1986: Top Dance Club Play Artist * 1986: Top Dance Sales Artist * 1986: Top Pop Singles Artist * 1986: Top Pop Singles Artist - Female * 1990: Top Selling Album Of The Year: Rhythm Nation * 1990: Top Selling R&B Album Of The Year: Rhythm Nation * 1990: Top Selling R&B Album's Artist Of The Year * 1990: Top Selling R&B Artist Of The Year * 1990: Top R&B Singles Artist * 1990: Top Hot 100 Singles Artist Of The Year * 1990: Top Hot 100 Singles Artist Of The Year - Female * 1990: Top Dance Club Play Artist * 1990: Top Hot Dance 12" Singles Sales Artist * 1990: Top R&B Female Artist Of The Year * 1990: Best Female Artist, Black/Rap * 1990: Best Female Artist, Dance * 1990: Director's Award (Black/Rap): Rhythm Nation" * 1990: Director's Award (Dance): Alright: * 1990: Billboard/Tanqueray Sterling Music Video Award for Artistic Achievement: Rhythm Nation * 1993: Top Pop Albums Artist Female * 1993: Top Billboard 200 Albums Artist - Female * 1993: Top R&B Aritst - Female * 1993: Top R&B Album - Female * 1993: Top R&B Single - Airplay: That's The Way Love Goes * 1994: Top R&B Singles Artist - Female * 1995: Pop/Rock Video Clip Of The Year: Scream * 1995: Artist of Achievement Award * 1998: Top R&B Female Artist Of The Year * 2001: Artistic Achievement Award Note: Janet Jackson holds the record for the most Billboard Awards of any artist male or female (33). [1] Soul Train Music Awards * 1987: Best Female Album: Control * 1987: Best Music Video: What Have You Done For Me Lately * 1988: Best Music Video: Control * 1990: Best Female Album: Rhythm Nation * 1990: Best Female Single: Miss You Much * 1990: Best Music Video: Rhythm Nation * 1991: Best Music Video: Alright * 1992: Sammy Davis, Jr. Entertainer of the Year Award * 1994: Best Music Video: If * 1997: Lena Horne Outstanding Career Achievements Award * 2000: Best Music Video: What's It Gonna Be? * 2004: Quincy Jones Award for Outstanding Career Achievements: Lifetime Achievement Award Note: Janet has more Soul Train Awards than any other artist, Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston follow. MTV Europe Awards * 1997: Best Female Artist Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards * 1994: Best Singer * 1994: Best Album: janet. * 1996: Hall Of Fame * 2002: Kid's Choice Wanna Be Award given to good role models for kids. Radio Music Awards * 2004: Legend Award BMI Pop Awards * 1990: Songwriter Of The Year * 1990: Most Played Song: Alright * 1990: Most Played Song: Come Back To Me * 1990: Most Played Song: Escapade * 1990: Most Played Song: Rhythm Nation * 1991: Most Played Song: Black Cat * 1991: Most Played Song: Come Back To Me * 1992: Most Played Song: State Of The World * 1993: Most Played Song: That's The Way Love Goes * 1994: Most Played Song: Again * 1994: Most Played Song: Any Time, Any Place * 1994: Most Played Song: Because Of Love * 1994: Most Played Song: If * 1995: Most Played Song: Scream * 1995: Most Played Song: You Want This * 1996: Most Played Song: Runaway * 1999: Most Played Song: I Get Lonely * 1999: Most Played Song: Together Again * 2001: Most Performed Song From A Motion Picture: Doesn't Really Matter * 2001: Most Played Song: Doesn't Really Matter * 2002: BMI Urban Awards Song Of The Year: All For You * 2002: Most Played Song: All For You * 2002: Most Played Song: Doesn't Really Matter * 2002: Most Played Song: Someone To Call My Lover * 2002: National Association of Black Owned Broadcasters Awards - Entertainer of the Year NBA / Touching a Life Awards * 2004: Touching a Life Humanitarian and Philanthropic Award World Music Awards * 1999: Legend Award for Outstanding Contribution to Pop & R&B Music VH-1 Fashion Awards * 1998: Most Stylish Music Video: Got 'Til It's Gone Blockbuster Entertainment Awards * 1998: Favorite Female Album Of The Year: The Velvet Rope Golden Globes * 1994: Best Original Song Nomination: Again (from Poetic Justice) Essence Awards * 1995: Humanitarian Award * 2002: Readers Choice Award for Entertainer Of The Year Japan Gold Disc Awards * 2000: Top Selling Song of the Year for Foreign Music: Doesn't Really Matter * 2001: Pop Album Of The Year: All For You * 2001: Top Female Vocalist * 2001: Biggest Selling Album Of The Year: All For You * 2001: Top Selling Song Of the Year for Foreign Music: All For You Rolling Stone Readers Choice Awards * 1994: Favorite Female Artist * 1994: Favorite R&B Artist Oscars (Academy Awards) * 1994: Best Original Song Nomination: Again (from Poetic Justice) * 1994: Friends of The Black Academy Award Nominees, Award of Recognition - Composer/Lyricist "Again" AIDS Project Los Angeles (APLA) * 1999: Commitment to Life Award Hollywood Walk of Fame * 1990: Hollywood Walk of Fame Star Ebony Magazine Awards * 1993: American Black Achievement Award * 1993: Best Female Artist * 2007: Pre-Oscar Honoree IFPI Platinum Europe Awards * 1996: IFPI Platinum Europe Award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" * 1997: IFPI Platinum Europe Award for "The Velvet Rope" Source Hip-Hop Music Awards * 1999: Music Video Of The Year: What's It Gonna Be? Dutch Grammys TMF Awards * 1987: Best International Female Singer * 1998: Best International Female Singer * 1999: Best International Female Singer * 2001: Lifetime Achievement Award BPI UK Sales Awards Silver Awards/Gold Awards/Platinum Awards/Multi Platinum Awards GLAAD Media Awards * 1998: Outstanding Album of the Year: The Velvet Rope Playboy Magazine Entertainment Awards * 1994: Music Poll Awards: Rock Album Of The Year: Janet. * 1994: Music Poll Awards: Music Video Of The Year: If International Dance Music Awards * 1995: Outstanding Achievement in Dance Music * 2002: Best Dance Video: All For You ACE (American Cinema Awards) * 1988: Performer of the Year; Video - Recording Field ARIA Awards (Australian Sales Awards) Gold Awards/Platinum Awards/Multi Platinum Awards Dutch Edison Awards * 1987: Album Of The Year: Control Narm Awards (National Association of Recording Merchandisers) * 1989-1990 Best-selling R&B recording (Female): Rhythm Nation 1814 * 1993-1994 Best-selling R&B recording: Janet. * 1993-1994 Best-selling pop recording: Janet. * 1993-1994 Best-selling recording of the year: Janet. National Alumnae Association Of Spelman Awards * 1997: Honoree Award NAACP Image Awards * 1990: Greater Hartford - Musical and Civil Rights Efforts Award * 1992: 24th Annual NAACP Awards - "Chairman's Award" C.O.R.E (Congress of Racial Equality) * 1995: The Martin Luther King Jr. Award for Outstanding Starlight Foundation Awards * 1991: Humanitarian of the Year Center for Population Options * 1990: Nancy Susan Reynolds Award Channel V Awards * 1998: Best International Female Artist Dansk Grammy Awards (Danish Music Awards) * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Album : The Velvet Rope * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Hit : Got 'Til It's Gone * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Sangerinde Brazilian TVZ Video Awards * 1995: Best International Video of the Year: Scream Bravo Awards * 1993: Goldene Siegerin Der Otto-Wahl * 1995: Goldene Siegerin Der Otto-Wahl Swiss Sales Awards (Switzerland Sales) * 1991: Gold sales award for "Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814" (Album) * 1993: Gold sales award for "Janet." (Album) * 1996: Gold sales award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" (Album) * 1997: Gold sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 1998: Platinum sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 1998: Gold sales award for "Together Again" (Single) * 1999: Double Platinum sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 2000: Platinum sales award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" (Album) Note: From 1968-2003, Janet ranks as the #21 biggest selling singles artist in the history of Switzerland, Janet has sold more singles than such artist as Mariah Carey, Céline Dion, Rolling Stones, Prince, and Cher. Radioscope Awards * 1986: Music Award Female Vocalist BMG Music Club Sales Award * 2003: Special Plaque for being one of the All-Time Top 100 selling CDs of the BMG Music Club were presented to "The Velvet Rope," "Design Of A Decade," "Rhythm Nation 1814," "Janet." and "Control." * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "The Velvet Rope" * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "Janet." * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "Rhythm Nation 1814" * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "Control" DMC DJ Awards * 1986: Best Female Vocalist Performance Magazine Awards * 1993: R&B Artist Of The Year L.E.A.P. Awards * 1991: Humanitarian Youth Advocacy Award The Rhythm Nation 1814 Tour was Janet Jackson's first worldwide tour in support of her multi-platinum smash album, Rhythm Nation 1814 before flying into Japan on May . The tour started on March 1, 1990 at the Miami Arena. The tour was a 9-month long venture. Criss-crossing the U.S.1990. The Japan tour was her first experience of foreign audience. She sold out shows in that country, most impressively, the 48,000-capacity Tokyo Dome with four shows, which still holds the record for the fastest sell out in the history of the Tokyo Dome, a record seven minutes. Then she also sold out shows in Hong Kong, her only Southeast Asian tour venue. She flew back to North America to wrap up remaining shows before flying to Europe. She performed in England, The Netherlands, and more with many sold out shows, ending the year with a bang. # The Rhythm Nation Tour appeared in 25 countries. # The tour opened with a sell out show in Miami. # Beginning in March 1990, the Rhythm Nation Tour ran a full nine months and performed over 120 shows. # The 5-date LA shows sold out in a record of 48 minutes. # Janet performed on a five-story two-level $2 million stage of solid aluminum, complete with pyrotechnics, hundreds of lights, an illusionist, and a 200-pound panther. # Janet was backed by 9 musicians and 6 dancers during the 90-minute shows. # During the late 1980s, Pioneer signed contracts with major music artists, such as Madonna, Janet Jackson, and others, to release their concerts on Laserdisc only. To this date, the contracts are still standing, and the concerts have not been re-released on DVD by Pioneer or others. Although never released on home video, one of four sold-out Tokyo concerts was aired on television in Japan and is available as a bootleg online. # Janet collected 25 cents from each ticket sold in some of her shows and donated an accumulated $450,000 to the United Negro College Fund for the Rhythm Nation Scholarship. # In the end, the tour spawned numerous sold out shows around the world and attracting over 2 million fans. This made the Rhythm Nation World Tour the biggest debut tour by any artist in history. The tour grossed over $28.1 million in the U.S. alone and it became one of the ten best grossing concert tours of 1990. NOW GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES AND REPENT & BEG FOR FORGIVENESS [Edited 10/11/07 18:56pm] White Americans, what? Nothing better to do? Why don't you kick yourself out? You're an immigrant too. -White Stripes | |
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floetcist said: bboy87 said: That is so far from the truth I can’t believe you even typed that with a straight face. Aging process my ass. Ever heard the term ‘black don’t crack’? Black people do not age as quickly as White people. Look at the rest of Michael’s family for God’s sake! None of them look that “old”, now do they? The same couldn’t be applied to Michael, why not? MICHAEL HAS BROTHERS OLDER THAN HIM BY THE DECADES. And they all look relatively the same as their yesteryears. Katie [his mother] is somewhere pushing 80 years old, yet shes been looking the same as she was in the 1970s, as far back as the footage you can find in the media. Yes Michael has had several different hairstyles, but those are only minor changes. Its not significant enough to bring up in his drastic change in his appearance. I think this is all denial. I’ve even heard some MJ fans tell me “Michael hasn’t changed that much” or actually believe him when he says he’s only had 2 nose jobs. On "Living With Michael Jackson" he says he hasn’t gotten his chin done with a cleft. In 1988, in his autobiography "Moonwalk" he admits that he did. How can you forget something like that? ‘…as I can remember’. I’m sure I’m going to get a lot of backlash for saying this, but it needs to be said and badly, by far. They hate me for saying this shit And u say the truth.  But I agree this thread needs to be locked. It's like viewing a three-ring circus. | |
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floetcist said: midnightmover said: This is not subjective. I saw Janet live in 1995. She played three nights at Wembley Arena. Well, Prince sold out nineteen nights at the same venue, so that gives you some idea of the gulf in popularity. Madge sold out Wembley Stadium three nights (which is about 5 or 6 times bigger than the arena). MJ sold out five nights at the stadium. Go and take a look at Janet's sales figures outside the US and compare them with Whitney, Bon Jovi, Guns & Roses, Tina Turner, etc., etc. Growing up it was always strange to me to realise just how intoxicated America seemed with her, because over here it wasn't the same. Hell, Bobby Brown in 1989 was way bigger here than Janet was at any point in her career. That's not a subjective statement. The figures will back me up on that. I'm a lazy bastard by nature so I'm not gonna go hunting for them, but if you want to, you can. * In 2007, Jackson's Control and janet. were listed by the National Association of Recording Merchandisers and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as two of the 200 Definitive Albums of All Time, coming in at #87 and #151, respectively.[30] * In 2007, Jackson was named by Forbes and E! Entertainment Television as one of the twenty richest women in entertainment, coming in at #7.[31] * According to the 2007 edition of the Guinness Book of Records, Jackson is the most-searched person on the web.[32] * So far in her career, Jackson has sold more than 75 million albums worldwide and more than 70 million singles worldwide.[33] * In 2003, Jackson's Design of a Decade 1986/1996, Rhythm Nation 1814, Control, janet. and The Velvet Rope were listed on the BMG Music Club's 100 Biggest Selling Albums in the U.S. coming in at #9, #35, #58, #63 and #95, respectively.[34] * In 2003, Jackson's The Velvet Rope and Rhythm Nation 1814 were named by Rolling Stone Magazine as two of The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time, coming in at #256 and #275, respectively.[35] * Jackson's "Scream", with brother Michael, is featured in the Guinness Book of Records as the Most Expensive Music Video Ever Made. The video is the most expensive of all time at a cost of USD 7 million.[36] * "Scream" also became the first single in Billboard history to debut in the Top 5 on Billboard's Hot 100 Singles chart. The single also made the highest debut on the Hot Dance Club Play chart at number twelve. [37] * Jackson's HBO special, The Velvet Rope: Live in Madison Square Garden, was watched by more than 15 million viewers and garnered 13 Emmy nominations. The two-hour concert crushed the ratings of all four major networks in homes that subscribed to HBO.[38] * Debuting at #19 on Billboard Radio Monitor R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay chart, Jackson's "Call on Me" is the highest debuting single on that chart since TLC's "No Scrubs" debuted at no.13 in February, 1999.[39] * Jackson's janet. became the first album from a female artist to debut at #1 on the Billboard 200 Albums chart during the Nielsen SoundScan era.[40] * Despite releasing only three albums in the 1990s, Jackson was named by Billboard as the second biggest artist of the decade, behind only Mariah Carey. [41] * Jackson is the only female artist in history to have five back-to-back #1 studio albums on the U.S. Billboard 200 albums chart. [42] [b] * Jackson is the first artist to have #1 singles on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 singles chart in the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s. [43] * Jackson is the only artist to have seven top five singles on the Hot 100 from one album , specifically Rhythm Nation 1814. [44] * With sixteen #1 hits on the Billboard Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks chart, Jackson is the female artist with the second most #1 singles on that chart, second only to Aretha Franklin who has eighteen. [45] * Janet's biggest selling single worldwide is "Together Again"; in 1998 it was the 4th biggest selling single of the year in Europe (2nd biggest for a female, only outsold by Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On"). Worldwide sales according to Virgin Records are over 6 million copies, one of the largest selling singles ever from a female artist. "Together Again" spent nearly 50 weeks in the Top 50 of the Billboard Hot 100, it also remains one of the longest charting hits in Billboard history. "Together Again" sold over 760,000 in the UK making it one of the biggest selling singles ever in the UK from a female artist, "Together Again" sold over 600,000 copies in Germany also earned a Platinum certification just 2 months after it was released. "Together Again", also went Platinum in the Netherlands, France, Belgium, South Africa, Italy, and even went Double Platinum in New Zealand.[46] Grammy Awards * 1990: Best Long Form Music Video: Rhythm Nation 1814 * 1993: Best R&B Song: That's The Way Love Goes * 1995: Best Short Form Music Video: Scream * 1998: Best Short Form Music Video: Got 'Til It's Gone * 2002: Best Dance Recording: All For You * 2002: Recording Academy's Governors Award NOTE: Janet is the only performer male or female to be nominated for Grammy Awards in Pop, Rock, Dance, Rap and R&B, and the first female recording artist of color to be nominated for a Producer Of The Year Grammy. American Music Awards * 1987: Favorite Soul/R&B Single: Nasty * 1987: Favorite Soul/R&B Female Video Artist * 1988: Favorite Pop/Rock Video: When I Think Of You * 1988: Favorite Soul/R&B Video: When I Think Of You * 1990: Favorite Soul/R&B Single: Miss You Much * 1990: Favorite Dance Single: Miss You Much * 1991: Favorite Soul/R&B Female Artist * 1991: Favorite Pop/Rock Female Artist * 1991: Favorite Dance Artist * 1999: Favorite Soul/R&B Female Artist * 2001: American Music Award Of Merit * 2002: Favorite Pop/Rock Female Artist NOTE: Janet's No.1 album "Control" received a record 9 nominations in 1987, and 3 more in 1988 still til this date has not been broken. MTV Video Music Awards * 1987: Best Choreography in a Video: Nasty * 1988: Best Choreography in a Video: The Pleasure Principle * 1990: Best Choreography in a Video: Rhythm Nation * 1990: Video Vanguard * 1991: Best Female Video: Love Will Never Do (Without You) * 1994: Best Female Video: If * 1995: Best Dance Video: Scream * 1995: Best Choreography: Scream * 1995: Best Art Direction: Scream * 2001: mtvICON Award o 1994: Best Female Performance: Poetic Justice o 1994: Most Desirable Female: Poetic Justice Note: Janet was the first artist to win the mtvICON Award, she passed the award down to Aerosmith the following year. MTV Movie Awards * 1994: Best Female Performance: Poetic Justice * 1994: Most Desirable Female: Poetic Justice MTV Japan Video Music Awards * 2004: Special Inspiration Award Billboard Music Awards * 1986: Top Black Artist (combined LPs & singles) * 1986: Top Black Singles Artist * 1986: Top Dance Club Play Artist * 1986: Top Dance Sales Artist * 1986: Top Pop Singles Artist * 1986: Top Pop Singles Artist - Female * 1990: Top Selling Album Of The Year: Rhythm Nation * 1990: Top Selling R&B Album Of The Year: Rhythm Nation * 1990: Top Selling R&B Album's Artist Of The Year * 1990: Top Selling R&B Artist Of The Year * 1990: Top R&B Singles Artist * 1990: Top Hot 100 Singles Artist Of The Year * 1990: Top Hot 100 Singles Artist Of The Year - Female * 1990: Top Dance Club Play Artist * 1990: Top Hot Dance 12" Singles Sales Artist * 1990: Top R&B Female Artist Of The Year * 1990: Best Female Artist, Black/Rap * 1990: Best Female Artist, Dance * 1990: Director's Award (Black/Rap): Rhythm Nation" * 1990: Director's Award (Dance): Alright: * 1990: Billboard/Tanqueray Sterling Music Video Award for Artistic Achievement: Rhythm Nation * 1993: Top Pop Albums Artist Female * 1993: Top Billboard 200 Albums Artist - Female * 1993: Top R&B Aritst - Female * 1993: Top R&B Album - Female * 1993: Top R&B Single - Airplay: That's The Way Love Goes * 1994: Top R&B Singles Artist - Female * 1995: Pop/Rock Video Clip Of The Year: Scream * 1995: Artist of Achievement Award * 1998: Top R&B Female Artist Of The Year * 2001: Artistic Achievement Award Note: Janet Jackson holds the record for the most Billboard Awards of any artist male or female (33). [1] Soul Train Music Awards * 1987: Best Female Album: Control * 1987: Best Music Video: What Have You Done For Me Lately * 1988: Best Music Video: Control * 1990: Best Female Album: Rhythm Nation * 1990: Best Female Single: Miss You Much * 1990: Best Music Video: Rhythm Nation * 1991: Best Music Video: Alright * 1992: Sammy Davis, Jr. Entertainer of the Year Award * 1994: Best Music Video: If * 1997: Lena Horne Outstanding Career Achievements Award * 2000: Best Music Video: What's It Gonna Be? * 2004: Quincy Jones Award for Outstanding Career Achievements: Lifetime Achievement Award Note: Janet has more Soul Train Awards than any other artist, Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston follow. MTV Europe Awards * 1997: Best Female Artist Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards * 1994: Best Singer * 1994: Best Album: janet. * 1996: Hall Of Fame * 2002: Kid's Choice Wanna Be Award given to good role models for kids. Radio Music Awards * 2004: Legend Award BMI Pop Awards * 1990: Songwriter Of The Year * 1990: Most Played Song: Alright * 1990: Most Played Song: Come Back To Me * 1990: Most Played Song: Escapade * 1990: Most Played Song: Rhythm Nation * 1991: Most Played Song: Black Cat * 1991: Most Played Song: Come Back To Me * 1992: Most Played Song: State Of The World * 1993: Most Played Song: That's The Way Love Goes * 1994: Most Played Song: Again * 1994: Most Played Song: Any Time, Any Place * 1994: Most Played Song: Because Of Love * 1994: Most Played Song: If * 1995: Most Played Song: Scream * 1995: Most Played Song: You Want This * 1996: Most Played Song: Runaway * 1999: Most Played Song: I Get Lonely * 1999: Most Played Song: Together Again * 2001: Most Performed Song From A Motion Picture: Doesn't Really Matter * 2001: Most Played Song: Doesn't Really Matter * 2002: BMI Urban Awards Song Of The Year: All For You * 2002: Most Played Song: All For You * 2002: Most Played Song: Doesn't Really Matter * 2002: Most Played Song: Someone To Call My Lover * 2002: National Association of Black Owned Broadcasters Awards - Entertainer of the Year NBA / Touching a Life Awards * 2004: Touching a Life Humanitarian and Philanthropic Award World Music Awards * 1999: Legend Award for Outstanding Contribution to Pop & R&B Music VH-1 Fashion Awards * 1998: Most Stylish Music Video: Got 'Til It's Gone Blockbuster Entertainment Awards * 1998: Favorite Female Album Of The Year: The Velvet Rope Golden Globes * 1994: Best Original Song Nomination: Again (from Poetic Justice) Essence Awards * 1995: Humanitarian Award * 2002: Readers Choice Award for Entertainer Of The Year Japan Gold Disc Awards * 2000: Top Selling Song of the Year for Foreign Music: Doesn't Really Matter * 2001: Pop Album Of The Year: All For You * 2001: Top Female Vocalist * 2001: Biggest Selling Album Of The Year: All For You * 2001: Top Selling Song Of the Year for Foreign Music: All For You Rolling Stone Readers Choice Awards * 1994: Favorite Female Artist * 1994: Favorite R&B Artist Oscars (Academy Awards) * 1994: Best Original Song Nomination: Again (from Poetic Justice) * 1994: Friends of The Black Academy Award Nominees, Award of Recognition - Composer/Lyricist "Again" AIDS Project Los Angeles (APLA) * 1999: Commitment to Life Award Hollywood Walk of Fame * 1990: Hollywood Walk of Fame Star Ebony Magazine Awards * 1993: American Black Achievement Award * 1993: Best Female Artist * 2007: Pre-Oscar Honoree IFPI Platinum Europe Awards * 1996: IFPI Platinum Europe Award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" * 1997: IFPI Platinum Europe Award for "The Velvet Rope" Source Hip-Hop Music Awards * 1999: Music Video Of The Year: What's It Gonna Be? Dutch Grammys TMF Awards * 1987: Best International Female Singer * 1998: Best International Female Singer * 1999: Best International Female Singer * 2001: Lifetime Achievement Award BPI UK Sales Awards Silver Awards/Gold Awards/Platinum Awards/Multi Platinum Awards GLAAD Media Awards * 1998: Outstanding Album of the Year: The Velvet Rope Playboy Magazine Entertainment Awards * 1994: Music Poll Awards: Rock Album Of The Year: Janet. * 1994: Music Poll Awards: Music Video Of The Year: If International Dance Music Awards * 1995: Outstanding Achievement in Dance Music * 2002: Best Dance Video: All For You ACE (American Cinema Awards) * 1988: Performer of the Year; Video - Recording Field ARIA Awards (Australian Sales Awards) Gold Awards/Platinum Awards/Multi Platinum Awards Dutch Edison Awards * 1987: Album Of The Year: Control Narm Awards (National Association of Recording Merchandisers) * 1989-1990 Best-selling R&B recording (Female): Rhythm Nation 1814 * 1993-1994 Best-selling R&B recording: Janet. * 1993-1994 Best-selling pop recording: Janet. * 1993-1994 Best-selling recording of the year: Janet. National Alumnae Association Of Spelman Awards * 1997: Honoree Award NAACP Image Awards * 1990: Greater Hartford - Musical and Civil Rights Efforts Award * 1992: 24th Annual NAACP Awards - "Chairman's Award" C.O.R.E (Congress of Racial Equality) * 1995: The Martin Luther King Jr. Award for Outstanding Starlight Foundation Awards * 1991: Humanitarian of the Year Center for Population Options * 1990: Nancy Susan Reynolds Award Channel V Awards * 1998: Best International Female Artist Dansk Grammy Awards (Danish Music Awards) * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Album : The Velvet Rope * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Hit : Got 'Til It's Gone * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Sangerinde Brazilian TVZ Video Awards * 1995: Best International Video of the Year: Scream Bravo Awards * 1993: Goldene Siegerin Der Otto-Wahl * 1995: Goldene Siegerin Der Otto-Wahl Swiss Sales Awards (Switzerland Sales) * 1991: Gold sales award for "Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814" (Album) * 1993: Gold sales award for "Janet." (Album) * 1996: Gold sales award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" (Album) * 1997: Gold sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 1998: Platinum sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 1998: Gold sales award for "Together Again" (Single) * 1999: Double Platinum sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 2000: Platinum sales award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" (Album) Note: From 1968-2003, Janet ranks as the #21 biggest selling singles artist in the history of Switzerland, Janet has sold more singles than such artist as Mariah Carey, Céline Dion, Rolling Stones, Prince, and Cher. Radioscope Awards * 1986: Music Award Female Vocalist BMG Music Club Sales Award * 2003: Special Plaque for being one of the All-Time Top 100 selling CDs of the BMG Music Club were presented to "The Velvet Rope," "Design Of A Decade," "Rhythm Nation 1814," "Janet." and "Control." * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "The Velvet Rope" * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "Janet." * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "Rhythm Nation 1814" * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "Control" DMC DJ Awards * 1986: Best Female Vocalist Performance Magazine Awards * 1993: R&B Artist Of The Year L.E.A.P. Awards * 1991: Humanitarian Youth Advocacy Award The Rhythm Nation 1814 Tour was Janet Jackson's first worldwide tour in support of her multi-platinum smash album, Rhythm Nation 1814 before flying into Japan on May . The tour started on March 1, 1990 at the Miami Arena. The tour was a 9-month long venture. Criss-crossing the U.S.1990. The Japan tour was her first experience of foreign audience. She sold out shows in that country, most impressively, the 48,000-capacity Tokyo Dome with four shows, which still holds the record for the fastest sell out in the history of the Tokyo Dome, a record seven minutes. Then she also sold out shows in Hong Kong, her only Southeast Asian tour venue. She flew back to North America to wrap up remaining shows before flying to Europe. She performed in England, The Netherlands, and more with many sold out shows, ending the year with a bang. # The Rhythm Nation Tour appeared in 25 countries. # The tour opened with a sell out show in Miami. # Beginning in March 1990, the Rhythm Nation Tour ran a full nine months and performed over 120 shows. # The 5-date LA shows sold out in a record of 48 minutes. # Janet performed on a five-story two-level $2 million stage of solid aluminum, complete with pyrotechnics, hundreds of lights, an illusionist, and a 200-pound panther. # Janet was backed by 9 musicians and 6 dancers during the 90-minute shows. # During the late 1980s, Pioneer signed contracts with major music artists, such as Madonna, Janet Jackson, and others, to release their concerts on Laserdisc only. To this date, the contracts are still standing, and the concerts have not been re-released on DVD by Pioneer or others. Although never released on home video, one of four sold-out Tokyo concerts was aired on television in Japan and is available as a bootleg online. # Janet collected 25 cents from each ticket sold in some of her shows and donated an accumulated $450,000 to the United Negro College Fund for the Rhythm Nation Scholarship. # In the end, the tour spawned numerous sold out shows around the world and attracting over 2 million fans. This made the Rhythm Nation World Tour the biggest debut tour by any artist in history. The tour grossed over $28.1 million in the U.S. alone and it became one of the ten best grossing concert tours of 1990. NOW GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES AND REPENT & BEG FOR FORGIVENESS. [Edited 10/11/07 18:46pm] I like you floetcist. But midnightmover is one of the smartest orgers on the forum, and has one of the keenest bullshit detectors along with Najee. | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: Someone just announced that they had Sunny Delight! Nah, he was wilding out because he saw that they had Grape Drink in the fridge.
That was from Dave Chappelle: "what the fuck is JUICE? I want some grape drink, baby!" "It's purple....mmmmm" I'm drinkin some red drink right now!
I think Michael looks okay considering how he looked back in 2000-2003. He still looks weird, but I'm used to it by now. He's still Michael Jackson in my eyes "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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So ... what is Marlon Jackson doing these days? THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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floetcist said: midnightmover said: This is not subjective. I saw Janet live in 1995. She played three nights at Wembley Arena. Well, Prince sold out nineteen nights at the same venue, so that gives you some idea of the gulf in popularity. Madge sold out Wembley Stadium three nights (which is about 5 or 6 times bigger than the arena). MJ sold out five nights at the stadium. Go and take a look at Janet's sales figures outside the US and compare them with Whitney, Bon Jovi, Guns & Roses, Tina Turner, etc., etc. Growing up it was always strange to me to realise just how intoxicated America seemed with her, because over here it wasn't the same. Hell, Bobby Brown in 1989 was way bigger here than Janet was at any point in her career. That's not a subjective statement. The figures will back me up on that. I'm a lazy bastard by nature so I'm not gonna go hunting for them, but if you want to, you can. * In 2007, Jackson's Control and janet. were listed by the National Association of Recording Merchandisers and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as two of the 200 Definitive Albums of All Time, coming in at #87 and #151, respectively.[30] * In 2007, Jackson was named by Forbes and E! Entertainment Television as one of the twenty richest women in entertainment, coming in at #7.[31] * According to the 2007 edition of the Guinness Book of Records, Jackson is the most-searched person on the web.[32] * So far in her career, Jackson has sold more than 75 million albums worldwide and more than 70 million singles worldwide.[33] * In 2003, Jackson's Design of a Decade 1986/1996, Rhythm Nation 1814, Control, janet. and The Velvet Rope were listed on the BMG Music Club's 100 Biggest Selling Albums in the U.S. coming in at #9, #35, #58, #63 and #95, respectively.[34] * In 2003, Jackson's The Velvet Rope and Rhythm Nation 1814 were named by Rolling Stone Magazine as two of The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time, coming in at #256 and #275, respectively.[35] * Jackson's "Scream", with brother Michael, is featured in the Guinness Book of Records as the Most Expensive Music Video Ever Made. The video is the most expensive of all time at a cost of USD 7 million.[36] * "Scream" also became the first single in Billboard history to debut in the Top 5 on Billboard's Hot 100 Singles chart. The single also made the highest debut on the Hot Dance Club Play chart at number twelve. [37] * Jackson's HBO special, The Velvet Rope: Live in Madison Square Garden, was watched by more than 15 million viewers and garnered 13 Emmy nominations. The two-hour concert crushed the ratings of all four major networks in homes that subscribed to HBO.[38] * Debuting at #19 on Billboard Radio Monitor R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay chart, Jackson's "Call on Me" is the highest debuting single on that chart since TLC's "No Scrubs" debuted at no.13 in February, 1999.[39] * Jackson's janet. became the first album from a female artist to debut at #1 on the Billboard 200 Albums chart during the Nielsen SoundScan era.[40] * Despite releasing only three albums in the 1990s, Jackson was named by Billboard as the second biggest artist of the decade, behind only Mariah Carey. [41] * Jackson is the only female artist in history to have five back-to-back #1 studio albums on the U.S. Billboard 200 albums chart. [42] [b] * Jackson is the first artist to have #1 singles on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 singles chart in the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s. [43] * Jackson is the only artist to have seven top five singles on the Hot 100 from one album , specifically Rhythm Nation 1814. [44] * With sixteen #1 hits on the Billboard Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks chart, Jackson is the female artist with the second most #1 singles on that chart, second only to Aretha Franklin who has eighteen. [45] * Janet's biggest selling single worldwide is "Together Again"; in 1998 it was the 4th biggest selling single of the year in Europe (2nd biggest for a female, only outsold by Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On"). Worldwide sales according to Virgin Records are over 6 million copies, one of the largest selling singles ever from a female artist. "Together Again" spent nearly 50 weeks in the Top 50 of the Billboard Hot 100, it also remains one of the longest charting hits in Billboard history. "Together Again" sold over 760,000 in the UK making it one of the biggest selling singles ever in the UK from a female artist, "Together Again" sold over 600,000 copies in Germany also earned a Platinum certification just 2 months after it was released. "Together Again", also went Platinum in the Netherlands, France, Belgium, South Africa, Italy, and even went Double Platinum in New Zealand.[46] Grammy Awards * 1990: Best Long Form Music Video: Rhythm Nation 1814 * 1993: Best R&B Song: That's The Way Love Goes * 1995: Best Short Form Music Video: Scream * 1998: Best Short Form Music Video: Got 'Til It's Gone * 2002: Best Dance Recording: All For You * 2002: Recording Academy's Governors Award NOTE: Janet is the only performer male or female to be nominated for Grammy Awards in Pop, Rock, Dance, Rap and R&B, and the first female recording artist of color to be nominated for a Producer Of The Year Grammy. American Music Awards * 1987: Favorite Soul/R&B Single: Nasty * 1987: Favorite Soul/R&B Female Video Artist * 1988: Favorite Pop/Rock Video: When I Think Of You * 1988: Favorite Soul/R&B Video: When I Think Of You * 1990: Favorite Soul/R&B Single: Miss You Much * 1990: Favorite Dance Single: Miss You Much * 1991: Favorite Soul/R&B Female Artist * 1991: Favorite Pop/Rock Female Artist * 1991: Favorite Dance Artist * 1999: Favorite Soul/R&B Female Artist * 2001: American Music Award Of Merit * 2002: Favorite Pop/Rock Female Artist NOTE: Janet's No.1 album "Control" received a record 9 nominations in 1987, and 3 more in 1988 still til this date has not been broken. MTV Video Music Awards * 1987: Best Choreography in a Video: Nasty * 1988: Best Choreography in a Video: The Pleasure Principle * 1990: Best Choreography in a Video: Rhythm Nation * 1990: Video Vanguard * 1991: Best Female Video: Love Will Never Do (Without You) * 1994: Best Female Video: If * 1995: Best Dance Video: Scream * 1995: Best Choreography: Scream * 1995: Best Art Direction: Scream * 2001: mtvICON Award o 1994: Best Female Performance: Poetic Justice o 1994: Most Desirable Female: Poetic Justice Note: Janet was the first artist to win the mtvICON Award, she passed the award down to Aerosmith the following year. MTV Movie Awards * 1994: Best Female Performance: Poetic Justice * 1994: Most Desirable Female: Poetic Justice MTV Japan Video Music Awards * 2004: Special Inspiration Award Billboard Music Awards * 1986: Top Black Artist (combined LPs & singles) * 1986: Top Black Singles Artist * 1986: Top Dance Club Play Artist * 1986: Top Dance Sales Artist * 1986: Top Pop Singles Artist * 1986: Top Pop Singles Artist - Female * 1990: Top Selling Album Of The Year: Rhythm Nation * 1990: Top Selling R&B Album Of The Year: Rhythm Nation * 1990: Top Selling R&B Album's Artist Of The Year * 1990: Top Selling R&B Artist Of The Year * 1990: Top R&B Singles Artist * 1990: Top Hot 100 Singles Artist Of The Year * 1990: Top Hot 100 Singles Artist Of The Year - Female * 1990: Top Dance Club Play Artist * 1990: Top Hot Dance 12" Singles Sales Artist * 1990: Top R&B Female Artist Of The Year * 1990: Best Female Artist, Black/Rap * 1990: Best Female Artist, Dance * 1990: Director's Award (Black/Rap): Rhythm Nation" * 1990: Director's Award (Dance): Alright: * 1990: Billboard/Tanqueray Sterling Music Video Award for Artistic Achievement: Rhythm Nation * 1993: Top Pop Albums Artist Female * 1993: Top Billboard 200 Albums Artist - Female * 1993: Top R&B Aritst - Female * 1993: Top R&B Album - Female * 1993: Top R&B Single - Airplay: That's The Way Love Goes * 1994: Top R&B Singles Artist - Female * 1995: Pop/Rock Video Clip Of The Year: Scream * 1995: Artist of Achievement Award * 1998: Top R&B Female Artist Of The Year * 2001: Artistic Achievement Award Note: Janet Jackson holds the record for the most Billboard Awards of any artist male or female (33). [1] Soul Train Music Awards * 1987: Best Female Album: Control * 1987: Best Music Video: What Have You Done For Me Lately * 1988: Best Music Video: Control * 1990: Best Female Album: Rhythm Nation * 1990: Best Female Single: Miss You Much * 1990: Best Music Video: Rhythm Nation * 1991: Best Music Video: Alright * 1992: Sammy Davis, Jr. Entertainer of the Year Award * 1994: Best Music Video: If * 1997: Lena Horne Outstanding Career Achievements Award * 2000: Best Music Video: What's It Gonna Be? * 2004: Quincy Jones Award for Outstanding Career Achievements: Lifetime Achievement Award Note: Janet has more Soul Train Awards than any other artist, Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston follow. MTV Europe Awards * 1997: Best Female Artist Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards * 1994: Best Singer * 1994: Best Album: janet. * 1996: Hall Of Fame * 2002: Kid's Choice Wanna Be Award given to good role models for kids. Radio Music Awards * 2004: Legend Award BMI Pop Awards * 1990: Songwriter Of The Year * 1990: Most Played Song: Alright * 1990: Most Played Song: Come Back To Me * 1990: Most Played Song: Escapade * 1990: Most Played Song: Rhythm Nation * 1991: Most Played Song: Black Cat * 1991: Most Played Song: Come Back To Me * 1992: Most Played Song: State Of The World * 1993: Most Played Song: That's The Way Love Goes * 1994: Most Played Song: Again * 1994: Most Played Song: Any Time, Any Place * 1994: Most Played Song: Because Of Love * 1994: Most Played Song: If * 1995: Most Played Song: Scream * 1995: Most Played Song: You Want This * 1996: Most Played Song: Runaway * 1999: Most Played Song: I Get Lonely * 1999: Most Played Song: Together Again * 2001: Most Performed Song From A Motion Picture: Doesn't Really Matter * 2001: Most Played Song: Doesn't Really Matter * 2002: BMI Urban Awards Song Of The Year: All For You * 2002: Most Played Song: All For You * 2002: Most Played Song: Doesn't Really Matter * 2002: Most Played Song: Someone To Call My Lover * 2002: National Association of Black Owned Broadcasters Awards - Entertainer of the Year NBA / Touching a Life Awards * 2004: Touching a Life Humanitarian and Philanthropic Award World Music Awards * 1999: Legend Award for Outstanding Contribution to Pop & R&B Music VH-1 Fashion Awards * 1998: Most Stylish Music Video: Got 'Til It's Gone Blockbuster Entertainment Awards * 1998: Favorite Female Album Of The Year: The Velvet Rope Golden Globes * 1994: Best Original Song Nomination: Again (from Poetic Justice) Essence Awards * 1995: Humanitarian Award * 2002: Readers Choice Award for Entertainer Of The Year Japan Gold Disc Awards * 2000: Top Selling Song of the Year for Foreign Music: Doesn't Really Matter * 2001: Pop Album Of The Year: All For You * 2001: Top Female Vocalist * 2001: Biggest Selling Album Of The Year: All For You * 2001: Top Selling Song Of the Year for Foreign Music: All For You Rolling Stone Readers Choice Awards * 1994: Favorite Female Artist * 1994: Favorite R&B Artist Oscars (Academy Awards) * 1994: Best Original Song Nomination: Again (from Poetic Justice) * 1994: Friends of The Black Academy Award Nominees, Award of Recognition - Composer/Lyricist "Again" AIDS Project Los Angeles (APLA) * 1999: Commitment to Life Award Hollywood Walk of Fame * 1990: Hollywood Walk of Fame Star Ebony Magazine Awards * 1993: American Black Achievement Award * 1993: Best Female Artist * 2007: Pre-Oscar Honoree IFPI Platinum Europe Awards * 1996: IFPI Platinum Europe Award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" * 1997: IFPI Platinum Europe Award for "The Velvet Rope" Source Hip-Hop Music Awards * 1999: Music Video Of The Year: What's It Gonna Be? Dutch Grammys TMF Awards * 1987: Best International Female Singer * 1998: Best International Female Singer * 1999: Best International Female Singer * 2001: Lifetime Achievement Award BPI UK Sales Awards Silver Awards/Gold Awards/Platinum Awards/Multi Platinum Awards GLAAD Media Awards * 1998: Outstanding Album of the Year: The Velvet Rope Playboy Magazine Entertainment Awards * 1994: Music Poll Awards: Rock Album Of The Year: Janet. * 1994: Music Poll Awards: Music Video Of The Year: If International Dance Music Awards * 1995: Outstanding Achievement in Dance Music * 2002: Best Dance Video: All For You ACE (American Cinema Awards) * 1988: Performer of the Year; Video - Recording Field ARIA Awards (Australian Sales Awards) Gold Awards/Platinum Awards/Multi Platinum Awards Dutch Edison Awards * 1987: Album Of The Year: Control Narm Awards (National Association of Recording Merchandisers) * 1989-1990 Best-selling R&B recording (Female): Rhythm Nation 1814 * 1993-1994 Best-selling R&B recording: Janet. * 1993-1994 Best-selling pop recording: Janet. * 1993-1994 Best-selling recording of the year: Janet. National Alumnae Association Of Spelman Awards * 1997: Honoree Award NAACP Image Awards * 1990: Greater Hartford - Musical and Civil Rights Efforts Award * 1992: 24th Annual NAACP Awards - "Chairman's Award" C.O.R.E (Congress of Racial Equality) * 1995: The Martin Luther King Jr. Award for Outstanding Starlight Foundation Awards * 1991: Humanitarian of the Year Center for Population Options * 1990: Nancy Susan Reynolds Award Channel V Awards * 1998: Best International Female Artist Dansk Grammy Awards (Danish Music Awards) * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Album : The Velvet Rope * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Hit : Got 'Til It's Gone * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Sangerinde Brazilian TVZ Video Awards * 1995: Best International Video of the Year: Scream Bravo Awards * 1993: Goldene Siegerin Der Otto-Wahl * 1995: Goldene Siegerin Der Otto-Wahl Swiss Sales Awards (Switzerland Sales) * 1991: Gold sales award for "Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814" (Album) * 1993: Gold sales award for "Janet." (Album) * 1996: Gold sales award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" (Album) * 1997: Gold sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 1998: Platinum sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 1998: Gold sales award for "Together Again" (Single) * 1999: Double Platinum sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 2000: Platinum sales award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" (Album) Note: From 1968-2003, Janet ranks as the #21 biggest selling singles artist in the history of Switzerland, Janet has sold more singles than such artist as Mariah Carey, Céline Dion, Rolling Stones, Prince, and Cher. Radioscope Awards * 1986: Music Award Female Vocalist BMG Music Club Sales Award * 2003: Special Plaque for being one of the All-Time Top 100 selling CDs of the BMG Music Club were presented to "The Velvet Rope," "Design Of A Decade," "Rhythm Nation 1814," "Janet." and "Control." * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "The Velvet Rope" * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "Janet." * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "Rhythm Nation 1814" * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "Control" DMC DJ Awards * 1986: Best Female Vocalist Performance Magazine Awards * 1993: R&B Artist Of The Year L.E.A.P. Awards * 1991: Humanitarian Youth Advocacy Award The Rhythm Nation 1814 Tour was Janet Jackson's first worldwide tour in support of her multi-platinum smash album, Rhythm Nation 1814 before flying into Japan on May . The tour started on March 1, 1990 at the Miami Arena. The tour was a 9-month long venture. Criss-crossing the U.S.1990. The Japan tour was her first experience of foreign audience. She sold out shows in that country, most impressively, the 48,000-capacity Tokyo Dome with four shows, which still holds the record for the fastest sell out in the history of the Tokyo Dome, a record seven minutes. Then she also sold out shows in Hong Kong, her only Southeast Asian tour venue. She flew back to North America to wrap up remaining shows before flying to Europe. She performed in England, The Netherlands, and more with many sold out shows, ending the year with a bang. # The Rhythm Nation Tour appeared in 25 countries. # The tour opened with a sell out show in Miami. # Beginning in March 1990, the Rhythm Nation Tour ran a full nine months and performed over 120 shows. # The 5-date LA shows sold out in a record of 48 minutes. # Janet performed on a five-story two-level $2 million stage of solid aluminum, complete with pyrotechnics, hundreds of lights, an illusionist, and a 200-pound panther. # Janet was backed by 9 musicians and 6 dancers during the 90-minute shows. # During the late 1980s, Pioneer signed contracts with major music artists, such as Madonna, Janet Jackson, and others, to release their concerts on Laserdisc only. To this date, the contracts are still standing, and the concerts have not been re-released on DVD by Pioneer or others. Although never released on home video, one of four sold-out Tokyo concerts was aired on television in Japan and is available as a bootleg online. # Janet collected 25 cents from each ticket sold in some of her shows and donated an accumulated $450,000 to the United Negro College Fund for the Rhythm Nation Scholarship. # In the end, the tour spawned numerous sold out shows around the world and attracting over 2 million fans. This made the Rhythm Nation World Tour the biggest debut tour by any artist in history. The tour grossed over $28.1 million in the U.S. alone and it became one of the ten best grossing concert tours of 1990. NOW GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES AND REPENT & BEG FOR FORGIVENESS. [Edited 10/11/07 18:46pm] Damn, you must be dumb. We're talking about Janet's popularity outside America, so what the hell do things like a Rolling Stone poll, some Grammy awards, a Madison Square Garden concert, or hell, ANYTHING on that list have to do with this subject? Best lower your head and walk out of here now. I promise we won't bad-mouth you when you're gone. [Edited 10/11/07 18:58pm] “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Rodya24, you dare question my credentials? 
Well, at least you like me. Most people don't. lol White Americans, what? Nothing better to do? Why don't you kick yourself out? You're an immigrant too. -White Stripes | |
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Najee said: So ... what is Marlon Jackson doing these days?
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floetcist said: Rodya24, you dare question my credentials?
Well, at least you like me. Most people don't. lol Be like Cartman and say "RESPECT MY AUTHORIT-AAA!" | |
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midnightmover said: floetcist said: * In 2007, Jackson's Control and janet. were listed by the National Association of Recording Merchandisers and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as two of the 200 Definitive Albums of All Time, coming in at #87 and #151, respectively.[30] * In 2007, Jackson was named by Forbes and E! Entertainment Television as one of the twenty richest women in entertainment, coming in at #7.[31] * According to the 2007 edition of the Guinness Book of Records, Jackson is the most-searched person on the web.[32] * So far in her career, Jackson has sold more than 75 million albums worldwide and more than 70 million singles worldwide.[33] * In 2003, Jackson's Design of a Decade 1986/1996, Rhythm Nation 1814, Control, janet. and The Velvet Rope were listed on the BMG Music Club's 100 Biggest Selling Albums in the U.S. coming in at #9, #35, #58, #63 and #95, respectively.[34] * In 2003, Jackson's The Velvet Rope and Rhythm Nation 1814 were named by Rolling Stone Magazine as two of The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time, coming in at #256 and #275, respectively.[35] * Jackson's "Scream", with brother Michael, is featured in the Guinness Book of Records as the Most Expensive Music Video Ever Made. The video is the most expensive of all time at a cost of USD 7 million.[36] * "Scream" also became the first single in Billboard history to debut in the Top 5 on Billboard's Hot 100 Singles chart. The single also made the highest debut on the Hot Dance Club Play chart at number twelve. [37] * Jackson's HBO special, The Velvet Rope: Live in Madison Square Garden, was watched by more than 15 million viewers and garnered 13 Emmy nominations. The two-hour concert crushed the ratings of all four major networks in homes that subscribed to HBO.[38] * Debuting at #19 on Billboard Radio Monitor R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay chart, Jackson's "Call on Me" is the highest debuting single on that chart since TLC's "No Scrubs" debuted at no.13 in February, 1999.[39] * Jackson's janet. became the first album from a female artist to debut at #1 on the Billboard 200 Albums chart during the Nielsen SoundScan era.[40] * Despite releasing only three albums in the 1990s, Jackson was named by Billboard as the second biggest artist of the decade, behind only Mariah Carey. [41] * Jackson is the only female artist in history to have five back-to-back #1 studio albums on the U.S. Billboard 200 albums chart. [42] [b] * Jackson is the first artist to have #1 singles on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 singles chart in the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s. [43] * Jackson is the only artist to have seven top five singles on the Hot 100 from one album , specifically Rhythm Nation 1814. [44] * With sixteen #1 hits on the Billboard Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks chart, Jackson is the female artist with the second most #1 singles on that chart, second only to Aretha Franklin who has eighteen. [45] * Janet's biggest selling single worldwide is "Together Again"; in 1998 it was the 4th biggest selling single of the year in Europe (2nd biggest for a female, only outsold by Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On"). Worldwide sales according to Virgin Records are over 6 million copies, one of the largest selling singles ever from a female artist. "Together Again" spent nearly 50 weeks in the Top 50 of the Billboard Hot 100, it also remains one of the longest charting hits in Billboard history. "Together Again" sold over 760,000 in the UK making it one of the biggest selling singles ever in the UK from a female artist, "Together Again" sold over 600,000 copies in Germany also earned a Platinum certification just 2 months after it was released. "Together Again", also went Platinum in the Netherlands, France, Belgium, South Africa, Italy, and even went Double Platinum in New Zealand.[46] Grammy Awards * 1990: Best Long Form Music Video: Rhythm Nation 1814 * 1993: Best R&B Song: That's The Way Love Goes * 1995: Best Short Form Music Video: Scream * 1998: Best Short Form Music Video: Got 'Til It's Gone * 2002: Best Dance Recording: All For You * 2002: Recording Academy's Governors Award NOTE: Janet is the only performer male or female to be nominated for Grammy Awards in Pop, Rock, Dance, Rap and R&B, and the first female recording artist of color to be nominated for a Producer Of The Year Grammy. American Music Awards * 1987: Favorite Soul/R&B Single: Nasty * 1987: Favorite Soul/R&B Female Video Artist * 1988: Favorite Pop/Rock Video: When I Think Of You * 1988: Favorite Soul/R&B Video: When I Think Of You * 1990: Favorite Soul/R&B Single: Miss You Much * 1990: Favorite Dance Single: Miss You Much * 1991: Favorite Soul/R&B Female Artist * 1991: Favorite Pop/Rock Female Artist * 1991: Favorite Dance Artist * 1999: Favorite Soul/R&B Female Artist * 2001: American Music Award Of Merit * 2002: Favorite Pop/Rock Female Artist NOTE: Janet's No.1 album "Control" received a record 9 nominations in 1987, and 3 more in 1988 still til this date has not been broken. MTV Video Music Awards * 1987: Best Choreography in a Video: Nasty * 1988: Best Choreography in a Video: The Pleasure Principle * 1990: Best Choreography in a Video: Rhythm Nation * 1990: Video Vanguard * 1991: Best Female Video: Love Will Never Do (Without You) * 1994: Best Female Video: If * 1995: Best Dance Video: Scream * 1995: Best Choreography: Scream * 1995: Best Art Direction: Scream * 2001: mtvICON Award o 1994: Best Female Performance: Poetic Justice o 1994: Most Desirable Female: Poetic Justice Note: Janet was the first artist to win the mtvICON Award, she passed the award down to Aerosmith the following year. MTV Movie Awards * 1994: Best Female Performance: Poetic Justice * 1994: Most Desirable Female: Poetic Justice MTV Japan Video Music Awards * 2004: Special Inspiration Award Billboard Music Awards * 1986: Top Black Artist (combined LPs & singles) * 1986: Top Black Singles Artist * 1986: Top Dance Club Play Artist * 1986: Top Dance Sales Artist * 1986: Top Pop Singles Artist * 1986: Top Pop Singles Artist - Female * 1990: Top Selling Album Of The Year: Rhythm Nation * 1990: Top Selling R&B Album Of The Year: Rhythm Nation * 1990: Top Selling R&B Album's Artist Of The Year * 1990: Top Selling R&B Artist Of The Year * 1990: Top R&B Singles Artist * 1990: Top Hot 100 Singles Artist Of The Year * 1990: Top Hot 100 Singles Artist Of The Year - Female * 1990: Top Dance Club Play Artist * 1990: Top Hot Dance 12" Singles Sales Artist * 1990: Top R&B Female Artist Of The Year * 1990: Best Female Artist, Black/Rap * 1990: Best Female Artist, Dance * 1990: Director's Award (Black/Rap): Rhythm Nation" * 1990: Director's Award (Dance): Alright: * 1990: Billboard/Tanqueray Sterling Music Video Award for Artistic Achievement: Rhythm Nation * 1993: Top Pop Albums Artist Female * 1993: Top Billboard 200 Albums Artist - Female * 1993: Top R&B Aritst - Female * 1993: Top R&B Album - Female * 1993: Top R&B Single - Airplay: That's The Way Love Goes * 1994: Top R&B Singles Artist - Female * 1995: Pop/Rock Video Clip Of The Year: Scream * 1995: Artist of Achievement Award * 1998: Top R&B Female Artist Of The Year * 2001: Artistic Achievement Award Note: Janet Jackson holds the record for the most Billboard Awards of any artist male or female (33). [1] Soul Train Music Awards * 1987: Best Female Album: Control * 1987: Best Music Video: What Have You Done For Me Lately * 1988: Best Music Video: Control * 1990: Best Female Album: Rhythm Nation * 1990: Best Female Single: Miss You Much * 1990: Best Music Video: Rhythm Nation * 1991: Best Music Video: Alright * 1992: Sammy Davis, Jr. Entertainer of the Year Award * 1994: Best Music Video: If * 1997: Lena Horne Outstanding Career Achievements Award * 2000: Best Music Video: What's It Gonna Be? * 2004: Quincy Jones Award for Outstanding Career Achievements: Lifetime Achievement Award Note: Janet has more Soul Train Awards than any other artist, Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston follow. MTV Europe Awards * 1997: Best Female Artist Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards * 1994: Best Singer * 1994: Best Album: janet. * 1996: Hall Of Fame * 2002: Kid's Choice Wanna Be Award given to good role models for kids. Radio Music Awards * 2004: Legend Award BMI Pop Awards * 1990: Songwriter Of The Year * 1990: Most Played Song: Alright * 1990: Most Played Song: Come Back To Me * 1990: Most Played Song: Escapade * 1990: Most Played Song: Rhythm Nation * 1991: Most Played Song: Black Cat * 1991: Most Played Song: Come Back To Me * 1992: Most Played Song: State Of The World * 1993: Most Played Song: That's The Way Love Goes * 1994: Most Played Song: Again * 1994: Most Played Song: Any Time, Any Place * 1994: Most Played Song: Because Of Love * 1994: Most Played Song: If * 1995: Most Played Song: Scream * 1995: Most Played Song: You Want This * 1996: Most Played Song: Runaway * 1999: Most Played Song: I Get Lonely * 1999: Most Played Song: Together Again * 2001: Most Performed Song From A Motion Picture: Doesn't Really Matter * 2001: Most Played Song: Doesn't Really Matter * 2002: BMI Urban Awards Song Of The Year: All For You * 2002: Most Played Song: All For You * 2002: Most Played Song: Doesn't Really Matter * 2002: Most Played Song: Someone To Call My Lover * 2002: National Association of Black Owned Broadcasters Awards - Entertainer of the Year NBA / Touching a Life Awards * 2004: Touching a Life Humanitarian and Philanthropic Award World Music Awards * 1999: Legend Award for Outstanding Contribution to Pop & R&B Music VH-1 Fashion Awards * 1998: Most Stylish Music Video: Got 'Til It's Gone Blockbuster Entertainment Awards * 1998: Favorite Female Album Of The Year: The Velvet Rope Golden Globes * 1994: Best Original Song Nomination: Again (from Poetic Justice) Essence Awards * 1995: Humanitarian Award * 2002: Readers Choice Award for Entertainer Of The Year Japan Gold Disc Awards * 2000: Top Selling Song of the Year for Foreign Music: Doesn't Really Matter * 2001: Pop Album Of The Year: All For You * 2001: Top Female Vocalist * 2001: Biggest Selling Album Of The Year: All For You * 2001: Top Selling Song Of the Year for Foreign Music: All For You Rolling Stone Readers Choice Awards * 1994: Favorite Female Artist * 1994: Favorite R&B Artist Oscars (Academy Awards) * 1994: Best Original Song Nomination: Again (from Poetic Justice) * 1994: Friends of The Black Academy Award Nominees, Award of Recognition - Composer/Lyricist "Again" AIDS Project Los Angeles (APLA) * 1999: Commitment to Life Award Hollywood Walk of Fame * 1990: Hollywood Walk of Fame Star Ebony Magazine Awards * 1993: American Black Achievement Award * 1993: Best Female Artist * 2007: Pre-Oscar Honoree IFPI Platinum Europe Awards * 1996: IFPI Platinum Europe Award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" * 1997: IFPI Platinum Europe Award for "The Velvet Rope" Source Hip-Hop Music Awards * 1999: Music Video Of The Year: What's It Gonna Be? Dutch Grammys TMF Awards * 1987: Best International Female Singer * 1998: Best International Female Singer * 1999: Best International Female Singer * 2001: Lifetime Achievement Award BPI UK Sales Awards Silver Awards/Gold Awards/Platinum Awards/Multi Platinum Awards GLAAD Media Awards * 1998: Outstanding Album of the Year: The Velvet Rope Playboy Magazine Entertainment Awards * 1994: Music Poll Awards: Rock Album Of The Year: Janet. * 1994: Music Poll Awards: Music Video Of The Year: If International Dance Music Awards * 1995: Outstanding Achievement in Dance Music * 2002: Best Dance Video: All For You ACE (American Cinema Awards) * 1988: Performer of the Year; Video - Recording Field ARIA Awards (Australian Sales Awards) Gold Awards/Platinum Awards/Multi Platinum Awards Dutch Edison Awards * 1987: Album Of The Year: Control Narm Awards (National Association of Recording Merchandisers) * 1989-1990 Best-selling R&B recording (Female): Rhythm Nation 1814 * 1993-1994 Best-selling R&B recording: Janet. * 1993-1994 Best-selling pop recording: Janet. * 1993-1994 Best-selling recording of the year: Janet. National Alumnae Association Of Spelman Awards * 1997: Honoree Award NAACP Image Awards * 1990: Greater Hartford - Musical and Civil Rights Efforts Award * 1992: 24th Annual NAACP Awards - "Chairman's Award" C.O.R.E (Congress of Racial Equality) * 1995: The Martin Luther King Jr. Award for Outstanding Starlight Foundation Awards * 1991: Humanitarian of the Year Center for Population Options * 1990: Nancy Susan Reynolds Award Channel V Awards * 1998: Best International Female Artist Dansk Grammy Awards (Danish Music Awards) * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Album : The Velvet Rope * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Hit : Got 'Til It's Gone * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Sangerinde Brazilian TVZ Video Awards * 1995: Best International Video of the Year: Scream Bravo Awards * 1993: Goldene Siegerin Der Otto-Wahl * 1995: Goldene Siegerin Der Otto-Wahl Swiss Sales Awards (Switzerland Sales) * 1991: Gold sales award for "Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814" (Album) * 1993: Gold sales award for "Janet." (Album) * 1996: Gold sales award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" (Album) * 1997: Gold sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 1998: Platinum sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 1998: Gold sales award for "Together Again" (Single) * 1999: Double Platinum sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 2000: Platinum sales award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" (Album) Note: From 1968-2003, Janet ranks as the #21 biggest selling singles artist in the history of Switzerland, Janet has sold more singles than such artist as Mariah Carey, Céline Dion, Rolling Stones, Prince, and Cher. Radioscope Awards * 1986: Music Award Female Vocalist BMG Music Club Sales Award * 2003: Special Plaque for being one of the All-Time Top 100 selling CDs of the BMG Music Club were presented to "The Velvet Rope," "Design Of A Decade," "Rhythm Nation 1814," "Janet." and "Control." * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "The Velvet Rope" * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "Janet." * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "Rhythm Nation 1814" * 2003: Top 100 Seller: "Control" DMC DJ Awards * 1986: Best Female Vocalist Performance Magazine Awards * 1993: R&B Artist Of The Year L.E.A.P. Awards * 1991: Humanitarian Youth Advocacy Award The Rhythm Nation 1814 Tour was Janet Jackson's first worldwide tour in support of her multi-platinum smash album, Rhythm Nation 1814 before flying into Japan on May . The tour started on March 1, 1990 at the Miami Arena. The tour was a 9-month long venture. Criss-crossing the U.S.1990. The Japan tour was her first experience of foreign audience. She sold out shows in that country, most impressively, the 48,000-capacity Tokyo Dome with four shows, which still holds the record for the fastest sell out in the history of the Tokyo Dome, a record seven minutes. Then she also sold out shows in Hong Kong, her only Southeast Asian tour venue. She flew back to North America to wrap up remaining shows before flying to Europe. She performed in England, The Netherlands, and more with many sold out shows, ending the year with a bang. # The Rhythm Nation Tour appeared in 25 countries. # The tour opened with a sell out show in Miami. # Beginning in March 1990, the Rhythm Nation Tour ran a full nine months and performed over 120 shows. # The 5-date LA shows sold out in a record of 48 minutes. # Janet performed on a five-story two-level $2 million stage of solid aluminum, complete with pyrotechnics, hundreds of lights, an illusionist, and a 200-pound panther. # Janet was backed by 9 musicians and 6 dancers during the 90-minute shows. # During the late 1980s, Pioneer signed contracts with major music artists, such as Madonna, Janet Jackson, and others, to release their concerts on Laserdisc only. To this date, the contracts are still standing, and the concerts have not been re-released on DVD by Pioneer or others. Although never released on home video, one of four sold-out Tokyo concerts was aired on television in Japan and is available as a bootleg online. # Janet collected 25 cents from each ticket sold in some of her shows and donated an accumulated $450,000 to the United Negro College Fund for the Rhythm Nation Scholarship. # In the end, the tour spawned numerous sold out shows around the world and attracting over 2 million fans. This made the Rhythm Nation World Tour the biggest debut tour by any artist in history. The tour grossed over $28.1 million in the U.S. alone and it became one of the ten best grossing concert tours of 1990. NOW GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES AND REPENT & BEG FOR FORGIVENESS. [Edited 10/11/07 18:46pm] Damn, you must be dumb. We're talking about Janet's popularity outside America, so what the hell do things like a Rolling Stone poll, some Grammy awards, a Madison Square Garden concert, or hell, ANYTHING on that list have to do with this subject? Best lower your head and walk out of here now. I promise we won't bad-mouth you when you're gone. [Edited 10/11/07 18:58pm] I like how you point out the non-bold print stats to try and attempt to hold on to your arguments. READ THE BOLD PRINT. Everything you tried to deny Janet for is all there. Don't get fresh with me.  White Americans, what? Nothing better to do? Why don't you kick yourself out? You're an immigrant too. -White Stripes | |
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floetcist said: Thats what kills me with these Caucasian [some] MJ fans. They talking about how 'good' MJ looks at his age, and not many men who are 50 look as good as Michael. They don't understand when people say Michael looked better when he was young. I hear dumb shit like “He’s not in his 20’s anymore , you should consider that." THATS what you think people say that for?! So you’re implying that he looks 'good for his age' the way he does because of natural aging? Maybe they should consider that the reason why he looks the way he does now is because he hacked the hell out of his nose, added an unnecessary cleft into his chin, and his cheekbones are sunken in. Giving me this "People get older and their appearance changes" and this & that. This does not apply to Michael Jackson. Unless you can point out to me someone who by nature, turned into a ghoulish looking creature from an attractive African American man, I’ll shut up. I think when he said that part "people get older, people change", I think that was just a way to avoid the question. He was already pissed with Bashir and you could tell. He had that "I'm tired of this muthafucka" look on his face. Had that interview gone longer, we would've definitely seen the Poppa Joe come out
He knows he's changed and he probably knows he made alot of mistakes because of the decisions he made to get those alterations. Good thing is that it looks like he's stopped finally [Edited 10/11/07 19:06pm] "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: floetcist said: Thats what kills me with these Caucasian [some] MJ fans. They talking about how 'good' MJ looks at his age, and not many men who are 50 look as good as Michael. They don't understand when people say Michael looked better when he was young. I hear dumb shit like “He’s not in his 20’s anymore , you should consider that." THATS what you think people say that for?! So you’re implying that he looks 'good for his age' the way he does because of natural aging? Maybe they should consider that the reason why he looks the way he does now is because he hacked the hell out of his nose, added an unnecessary cleft into his chin, and his cheekbones are sunken in. Giving me this "People get older and their appearance changes" and this & that. This does not apply to Michael Jackson. Unless you can point out to me someone who by nature, turned into a ghoulish looking creature from an attractive African American man, I’ll shut up. I think when he said that part "people get older, people change", I think that was just a way to avoid the question. He was already pissed with Bashir and you could tell. He had that "I'm tired of this muthafucka" look on his face. Had that interview gone longer, we would've definitely seen the Poppa Joe come out Mike's response to him was like "Look, n***a, I'm getting old, man, let's get on with it, shit!" | |
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floetcist said: midnightmover said: Damn, you must be dumb. We're talking about Janet's popularity outside America, so what the hell do things like a Rolling Stone poll, some Grammy awards, a Madison Square Garden concert, or hell, ANYTHING on that list have to do with this subject? Best lower your head and walk out of here now. I promise we won't bad-mouth you when you're gone. [Edited 10/11/07 18:58pm] I like how you point out the non-bold print stats to try and attempt to hold on to your arguments. READ THE BOLD PRINT. Everything you tried to deny Janet for is all there. Don't get fresh with me. and that's why i say its all subjective. and concert sales are not the be all tell all for an artist's cultural impact. this whole debate is silly because its all subjective. Space for sale... | |
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floetcist said: midnightmover said: Damn, you must be dumb. We're talking about Janet's popularity outside America, so what the hell do things like a Rolling Stone poll, some Grammy awards, a Madison Square Garden concert, or hell, ANYTHING on that list have to do with this subject? Best lower your head and walk out of here now. I promise we won't bad-mouth you when you're gone. [Edited 10/11/07 18:58pm] I like how you point out the non-bold print stats to try and attempt to hold on to your arguments. READ THE BOLD PRINT. Everything you tried to deny Janet for is all there. Don't get fresh with me. Here's an idea. Why don't you edit the post and just leave the bits that prove her huge popularity outside the US? Granted, there won't be much left, but at least you can show me the smoking gun you think you've found. I read the bold print and there ain't nothing there that proves anything apart from her being the 21st best selling artist in Switzerland and having one very big single ("Together Again"). Perhaps there are some other things there which you think prove she is a huge international titan. Be specific. I'll take great pleasure in exposing your foolishness. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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sosgemini said: floetcist said: I like how you point out the non-bold print stats to try and attempt to hold on to your arguments. READ THE BOLD PRINT. Everything you tried to deny Janet for is all there. Don't get fresh with me. and that's why i say its all subjective. and concert sales are not the be all tell all for an artist's cultural impact. this whole debate is silly because its all subjective. Album sales will tell you the same story. Speak to anyone outside the US and they will tell you the same story. Precisely what reason do you have for supposing Janet has had some cultural impact outside the US? [Edited 10/11/07 19:17pm] “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Timmy84 said: Najee said: So ... what is Marlon Jackson doing these days?
Apparently he has been in real estate and I think a channel he co-founded a while back is now a gospel channel. He's been doing really well for himself. That would be interesting to have Marlon Jackson as your real estate agent, to say the least. I saw that The Black Family Channel -- also founded by laywer Willie E. Gary, former baseball player Cecil Fielder, former boxing champ Evander Holyfield and broadcast television veteran Alvin James -- has ceased as a TV station in April and has switched to broadband Internet distribution. [Edited 10/11/07 19:20pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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midnightmover said: floetcist said: I like how you point out the non-bold print stats to try and attempt to hold on to your arguments. READ THE BOLD PRINT. Everything you tried to deny Janet for is all there. Don't get fresh with me. Here's an idea. Why don't you edit the post and just leave the bits that prove her huge popularity outside the US? Granted, there won't be much left, but at least you can show me the smoking gun you think you've found. I read the bold print and there ain't nothing there that proves anything apart from her being the 21st best selling artist in Switzerland and having one very big single ("Together Again"). Perhaps there are some other things there which you think prove she is a huge international titan. Be specific. I'll take great pleasure in exposing your foolishness. why does it have to be about people being fools? why cant you just have a differing opinion on things? this is all really petty. and like i said, there's evidence there to support both arguments...so can we now all be adult enought o agree to disagree? Space for sale... | |
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Najee said: Timmy84 said: Apparently he has been in real estate and I think a channel he co-founded a while back is now a gospel channel. He's been doing really well for himself. That would be interesting to have Marlon Jackson as your real estate agent, to say the least. I saw that The Black Family Channel -- also founded by laywer Willie E. Gary, former baseball player Cecil Fielder, former boxing champ Evander Holyfield and broadcast television veteran Alvin James -- has ceased as a TV station in April and is now an Internet broadband distribution site. Oh so that's what happened to it... hmm, lol. It was on for a good five years or something like that though, wasn't it? LOL, it would. I reckon it'd be better than Ronnie DeVoe being your real estate agent. Not that I'm knocking Ronnie, get that money!  | |
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Najee said: Timmy84 said: Apparently he has been in real estate and I think a channel he co-founded a while back is now a gospel channel. He's been doing really well for himself. That would be interesting to have Marlon Jackson as your real estate agent, to say the least. I saw that The Black Family Channel -- also founded by laywer Willie E. Gary, former baseball player Cecil Fielder, former boxing champ Evander Holyfield and broadcast television veteran Alvin James -- has ceased as a TV station in April and is now an Internet broadband distribution site. I still have it. It's more of a religion based channel "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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midnightmover said: sosgemini said: and that's why i say its all subjective. and concert sales are not the be all tell all for an artist's cultural impact. this whole debate is silly because its all subjective. Album sales will tell you the same story. Speak to anyone outside the US and they will tell you the same story. Precisely what reason do you have for supposing Janet has had some cultural impact outside the US? [Edited 10/11/07 19:17pm] yet you look at that list that was posted and you don't see any relevance in her albums and singles going platinum in europe or japan? this whole argument started because you and a couple others claimed janet had no cultural impact outside of the US. but that doesnt jell with this: IFPI Platinum Europe Awards * 1996: IFPI Platinum Europe Award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" * 1997: IFPI Platinum Europe Award for "The Velvet Rope" MTV Europe Awards * 1997: Best Female Artist Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards * 1994: Best Singer * 1994: Best Album: janet. * 1996: Hall Of Fame * 2002: Kid's Choice Wanna Be Award given to good role models for kids. Dutch Grammys TMF Awards * 1987: Best International Female Singer * 1998: Best International Female Singer * 1999: Best International Female Singer * 2001: Lifetime Achievement Award BPI UK Sales Awards ansk Grammy Awards (Danish Music Awards) * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Album : The Velvet Rope * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Hit : Got 'Til It's Gone * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Sangerinde Brazilian TVZ Video Awards Bravo Awards * 1993: Goldene Siegerin Der Otto-Wahl * 1995: Goldene Siegerin Der Otto-Wahl Swiss Sales Awards (Switzerland Sales) * 1991: Gold sales award for "Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814" (Album) * 1993: Gold sales award for "Janet." (Album) * 1996: Gold sales award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" (Album) * 1997: Gold sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 1998: Platinum sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 1998: Gold sales award for "Together Again" (Single) * 1999: Double Platinum sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 2000: Platinum sales award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" (Album) Once again, its folks making extreme outlandish statements and trying to pass them off as the truth which is what i have issue with. Just chill with the hyperbole.. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: midnightmover said: Here's an idea. Why don't you edit the post and just leave the bits that prove her huge popularity outside the US? Granted, there won't be much left, but at least you can show me the smoking gun you think you've found. I read the bold print and there ain't nothing there that proves anything apart from her being the 21st best selling artist in Switzerland and having one very big single ("Together Again"). Perhaps there are some other things there which you think prove she is a huge international titan. Be specific. I'll take great pleasure in exposing your foolishness. why does it have to be about people being fools? why cant you just have a differing opinion on things? this is all really petty. and like i said, there's evidence there to support both arguments...so can we now all be adult enought o agree to disagree? Because we are not talking about opinions. We're talking about facts. floetcist has posted an extremely lengthy list of "accomplishments" that have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the subject in hand. Take one look at the list and you'll see that. Whats's more, the things which she THINKS prove her case prove absolutely nothing. The very fact that they mentioned her being the 21st best selling artist in Sweden shows just how shallow the pickings are for Janet outside the US. That is hardly an accomplishment that Madonna's going to be jealous of, is it? “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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bboy87 said: Najee said: That would be interesting to have Marlon Jackson as your real estate agent, to say the least. I saw that The Black Family Channel -- also founded by laywer Willie E. Gary, former baseball player Cecil Fielder, former boxing champ Evander Holyfield and broadcast television veteran Alvin James -- has ceased as a TV station in April and is now an Internet broadband distribution site. I still have it. It's more of a religion based channel That channel sucks. For a short while they played Roc on the station and ran a Jacksons special hosted by Marlon (he even put a clip of himself from Arsenio Hall Show on the special). Now it's 27/4 of crooked preachers and people fainting or (feeling the spirit) when touched on their forehead. PRINCE: Always and Forever
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Timmy84 said: Oh so that's what happened to it... hmm, lol. It was on for a good five years or something like that though, wasn't it?
LOL, it would. I reckon it'd be better than Ronnie DeVoe being your real estate agent. Not that I'm knocking Ronnie, get that money! The Black Family Network was founded in 1999, so that was eight years. I knew someone was going to say something about The DeVoe Team! I actually called his office when he started with ReMax to see if it was a joke he was becoming a real estate agent. Here is his Web site:
http://www.devoeonline.com/ The interesting thing is that DeVoe has a link on his real estate site about New Edition. I wonder if Marlon Jackson has one up of the latest gossip on Michael and Janet! [Edited 10/11/07 19:30pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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midnightmover said: floetcist said: I like how you point out the non-bold print stats to try and attempt to hold on to your arguments. READ THE BOLD PRINT. Everything you tried to deny Janet for is all there. Don't get fresh with me. Here's an idea. Why don't you edit the post and just leave the bits that prove her huge popularity outside the US? Granted, there won't be much left, but at least you can show me the smoking gun you think you've found. I read the bold print and there ain't nothing there that proves anything apart from her being the 21st best selling artist in Switzerland and having one very big single ("Together Again"). Perhaps there are some other things there which you think prove she is a huge international titan. Be specific. I'll take great pleasure in exposing your foolishness. Again, you're picking the ones you WANT to mention because your point has weakened and your grasping at strings to hold on to it. bboy87 said: floetcist said: Thats what kills me with these Caucasian [some] MJ fans. They talking about how 'good' MJ looks at his age, and not many men who are 50 look as good as Michael. They don't understand when people say Michael looked better when he was young. I hear dumb shit like “He’s not in his 20’s anymore , you should consider that." THATS what you think people say that for?! So you’re implying that he looks 'good for his age' the way he does because of natural aging? Maybe they should consider that the reason why he looks the way he does now is because he hacked the hell out of his nose, added an unnecessary cleft into his chin, and his cheekbones are sunken in. Giving me this "People get older and their appearance changes" and this & that. This does not apply to Michael Jackson. Unless you can point out to me someone who by nature, turned into a ghoulish looking creature from an attractive African American man, I’ll shut up. I think when he said that part "people get older, people change", I think that was just a way to avoid the question. He was already pissed with Bashir and you could tell. He had that "I'm tired of this muthafucka" look on his face. Had that interview gone longer, we would've definitely seen the Poppa Joe come out
He knows he's changed and he probably knows he made alot of mistakes because of the decisions he made to get those alterations. Good thing is that it looks like he's stopped finally [Edited 10/11/07 19:06pm] NICCA I'D PAY TO SEE THAT SHIT. Can you imagine Michael getting Papa Joe? We saw Janet get Papa Joe (when the fans were being mistreated PHYSICALLY at the trial, from their view from the limousine with mother) and I was fucking scared of her. No lie. If you haven't seen it, WATCH IT NOW!White Americans, what? Nothing better to do? Why don't you kick yourself out? You're an immigrant too. -White Stripes | |
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midnightmover said: sosgemini said: why does it have to be about people being fools? why cant you just have a differing opinion on things? this is all really petty. and like i said, there's evidence there to support both arguments...so can we now all be adult enought o agree to disagree? Because we are not talking about opinions. We're talking about facts. floetcist has posted an extremely lengthy list of "accomplishments" that have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the subject in hand. Take one look at the list and you'll see that. Whats's more, the things which she THINKS prove her case prove absolutely nothing. The very fact that they mentioned her being the 21st best selling artist in Sweden shows just how shallow the pickings are for Janet outside the US. That is hardly an accomplishment that Madonna's going to be jealous of, is it? see, i look at that list and i do see relevant accomplishments...the most obvious ones i posted above... but seriously, whats up with the "madonna's going to be jealous of" statement...are you seriously trying to speak on behalf of madonna or act as her goodwill ambassador or something? you can't make extreme statements like, "janet has no relevance" and not expect to be called on it...if you feel that way, super, thats your opinion...but all this sh*t is way to subjective to be getting our panties so tight over that we lose circulation in our legs. why is it subjective ? cause all these figures can be manipulated one way or the other...promotional stunts can be pulled...just think about beyonce's claim to being the worlds best selling female artist...well duh!! nobody believes that sh*t...but they sure do have figures to prove it. well, its all so silly. just say what you want to say, "janet sucks and madonna rules".
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sosgemini said: midnightmover said: Album sales will tell you the same story. Speak to anyone outside the US and they will tell you the same story. Precisely what reason do you have for supposing Janet has had some cultural impact outside the US? [Edited 10/11/07 19:17pm] yet you look at that list that was posted and you don't see any relevance in her albums and singles going platinum in europe or japan? this whole argument started because you and a couple others claimed janet had no cultural impact outside of the US. but that doesnt jell with this: IFPI Platinum Europe Awards * 1996: IFPI Platinum Europe Award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" * 1997: IFPI Platinum Europe Award for "The Velvet Rope" MTV Europe Awards * 1997: Best Female Artist Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards * 1994: Best Singer * 1994: Best Album: janet. * 1996: Hall Of Fame * 2002: Kid's Choice Wanna Be Award given to good role models for kids. Dutch Grammys TMF Awards * 1987: Best International Female Singer * 1998: Best International Female Singer * 1999: Best International Female Singer * 2001: Lifetime Achievement Award BPI UK Sales Awards ansk Grammy Awards (Danish Music Awards) * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Album : The Velvet Rope * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Hit : Got 'Til It's Gone * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Sangerinde Brazilian TVZ Video Awards Bravo Awards * 1993: Goldene Siegerin Der Otto-Wahl * 1995: Goldene Siegerin Der Otto-Wahl Swiss Sales Awards (Switzerland Sales) * 1991: Gold sales award for "Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814" (Album) * 1993: Gold sales award for "Janet." (Album) * 1996: Gold sales award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" (Album) * 1997: Gold sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 1998: Platinum sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 1998: Gold sales award for "Together Again" (Single) * 1999: Double Platinum sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 2000: Platinum sales award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" (Album) Once again, its folks making extreme outlandship statements and trying to pass them off as the truth which is what i have issue with. Just chill with the hyperbole.. Pathetic. Dutch Grammies and Swedish gold discs. Lord have mercy. Sorry, but you could take any major artist and list every little gold or platinum disc they got in every country and it could look impressive at first glance, but what matters are the total sales for each album, in what territories and HOW THAT COMPARES WITH OTHER ARTISTS. No disrespect to Sweden, but they're a small country and I can guarantee you that Madonna, Michael and Whitney would have all outsold her even there. If you're trying to claim Janet is a huge international star you're gonna have to do better than some gold and platinum discs. Madonna and the like routinely go quadruple platinum in dozens of countries. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: sosgemini said: yet you look at that list that was posted and you don't see any relevance in her albums and singles going platinum in europe or japan? this whole argument started because you and a couple others claimed janet had no cultural impact outside of the US. but that doesnt jell with this: IFPI Platinum Europe Awards * 1996: IFPI Platinum Europe Award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" * 1997: IFPI Platinum Europe Award for "The Velvet Rope" MTV Europe Awards * 1997: Best Female Artist Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards * 1994: Best Singer * 1994: Best Album: janet. * 1996: Hall Of Fame * 2002: Kid's Choice Wanna Be Award given to good role models for kids. Dutch Grammys TMF Awards * 1987: Best International Female Singer * 1998: Best International Female Singer * 1999: Best International Female Singer * 2001: Lifetime Achievement Award BPI UK Sales Awards ansk Grammy Awards (Danish Music Awards) * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Album : The Velvet Rope * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Hit : Got 'Til It's Gone * 1998: Årets Udenlandske Sangerinde Brazilian TVZ Video Awards Bravo Awards * 1993: Goldene Siegerin Der Otto-Wahl * 1995: Goldene Siegerin Der Otto-Wahl Swiss Sales Awards (Switzerland Sales) * 1991: Gold sales award for "Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814" (Album) * 1993: Gold sales award for "Janet." (Album) * 1996: Gold sales award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" (Album) * 1997: Gold sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 1998: Platinum sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 1998: Gold sales award for "Together Again" (Single) * 1999: Double Platinum sales award for "The Velvet Rope" (Album) * 2000: Platinum sales award for "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996" (Album) Once again, its folks making extreme outlandship statements and trying to pass them off as the truth which is what i have issue with. Just chill with the hyperbole.. Pathetic. Dutch Grammies and Swedish gold discs. Lord have mercy. Sorry, but you could take any major artist and list every little gold or platinum disc they got in every country and it could look impressive at first glance, but what matters are the total sales for each album, in what territories and HOW THAT COMPARES WITH OTHER ARTISTS. No disrespect to Sweden, but they're a small country and I can guarantee you that Madonna, Michael and Whitney would have all outsold her even there. If you're trying to claim Janet is a huge international star you're gonna have to do better than some gold and platinum discs. Madonna and the like routinely go quadruple platinum in dozens of countries. so rather then providing sound data, like floetcist has, you expect us to just accept your "hunches"? sorry, life doesnt work out that way... now i have no care one way or the other about any of this...im just tired of folks spewing opinion like its fact...well, sh*t...start showing us the facts then...dont come up in here all arragant and pissing on everybody else and then refuse to provide actual evidence (ie, that "truth" / "facts" sh*t you all like to talk about) cause your arse is lazy...that sh*t aint cutting it... SHOW US THE MONEY!!!! Space for sale... | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: whatsgoingon said: Are you sure this isn't a different Marlon Jackson, not related to Michael or is it all in your imagination Don't insult my intelligence, I've worked in the industry for 5 years now... I've met bigger cats than Marlon Jackson. Its really not that big of a deal, Everybody in L.A. is bisexual or gay I can tell ya some stories about some famous (allegedly homophobic rappers) getting a little too close with members of their entourage.... It just comes with the lifestyle i suppose Did Busta Rhyme's grab your ass too? | |
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