I'd have to agree with that for the most part. I mean you never hear about him being involved in a scandal, he supports his family when needed, and he seems to call things as he sees them. (I remember once he said of Michael, something like, "We don't speak much anymore. He lies.") And it's like, a lot of the Jacksons try to present this image that they all get together on a regular basis, and while that might be true, I just kind of doubt it.

As a huge fan of MJ, and from reading various books, he seems to be involved in his own little world 90% of the time.

mancabdriver said:

You obviously haven't understood the debate or my argument. I have never disputed that Janet has had hits here. What I'm saying, and I've said it about a hundred times now, is that she has never been anywhere near as successful outside the US as she's been inside the US. Some American Janet fans have attempted to deny this. I'm also saying that she's always trailed behind a dozen other artists who have been more popular than her outside America. And I'm comparing her to Madonna because, believe it or not, there are some who genuinely believe Janet is comparable to her internationally, when, as I've shown, she doesn't even come close. They are in two completely different galaxies as a simple comparison of statistics shows.
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midnightmover said:

i believe you. janet is more an american star than international icon