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Reply #60 posted 10/05/07 2:06pm

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JackieBlue said:

Graycap23 said:

Why do I get the feeling he CAME between them?


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Reply #61 posted 10/05/07 2:17pm

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JackieBlue said:



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Reply #62 posted 10/05/07 3:24pm

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I think Janet did the right thing by not saying anything.
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Reply #63 posted 10/05/07 3:48pm

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I think Janet did the right thing by not saying anything.

I agree and disagree. I think the cheating party should be given the chance to tell the truth. If they don't tell, then as a friend I will tell my friend what's going on. After that, I support them with whatever decision they make, whether it's to get rid of that person or get back with them. As much as you owe loyalty to a friend, those two ppl are in a RELATIONSHIP that does not include you. So if they want to work it out and get back together or work it out to get closure and move on, you standing in the way of that is NOT a good idea. Our friends should be there for support, not as our guardians. You gotta live and let live even if it's stupid.
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Reply #64 posted 10/05/07 3:53pm

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The shit is a no win & it really depends on the strength of the friendship in terms of telling.

If you say nothing, the shit either works itself out OR (if she finds out you knew) you're branded a bitch.

If you tell, 9 times out of 10 the girlfriend will find every way possible to believe/excuse dude & STILL brand you a bitch lol She'll reason that you're jealous or trying to take her man or something, it's really strange. Or they stay together & she'll file it away that you tried to ruin her relationship & hold it against you. confused

I've never really had to break something heavy like that to a friend, but even an innocent sighting of someone's boyfriend can lead to some petty mess & lots of bitching shrug I think my mouth is closed UNLESS she's a very good friend of mine & they're either married or very long term. Otherwise they gotta work that shit out on their own...

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Reply #65 posted 10/05/07 4:42pm

Isel

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Cinnamon234 said:

I think Janet did the right thing by not saying anything.

I agree and disagree. I think the cheating party should be given the chance to tell the truth. If they don't tell, then as a friend I will tell my friend what's going on. After that, I support them with whatever decision they make, whether it's to get rid of that person or get back with them. As much as you owe loyalty to a friend, those two ppl are in a RELATIONSHIP that does not include you. So if they want to work it out and get back together or work it out to get closure and move on, you standing in the way of that is NOT a good idea. Our friends should be there for support, not as our guardians. You gotta live and let live even if it's stupid.


Well.. I DID wait in my situation...(Maybe that's why my friend was so upset with me?) I waited a week actually--thinking the guy would FOR SURE tell her because he saw both me and my husband!! I mean c'mon!! We had all socialized together. One would THINK he would have said SOMETHING to her. But nooooo!

So after a week, I just told her. It was so long ago, I can't really remember the conversaton. She is a very fun woman, but she always wanted our friendship on HER terms, if you know what I mean. She's a very critical person, so whatever I might have done would never have suited her. That's the REAL reason I decided to simply disengage. It was like she wanted our friendship, but she wanted me to change in order to be HER friend, ya know? And at one point, I realized that maybe we didn't have a lot in common in the first place?

Anyway, it's a long story, but the bottom line is that I thought I was doing the right thing. I thought I handled the situation quite well actually. I felt like I treated her like I wanted to be treated, but it still wasn't good enough.

So based upon my experience, I guess maybe Tina and Janet had other underlying reasons why they couldn't remain friends? Sometimes friends just outgrow each other--just like in "romantic" relationships.
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Reply #66 posted 10/05/07 5:11pm

Cinnie

I interpreted this as, Janet knew her husband and friend Rene was cheating on her with her friend Tina, but Janet didn't tell either of them. smile
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Reply #67 posted 10/05/07 5:51pm

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People are so quick to say Janet is a horrible friend but who knows...maybe Janet was friends with Tina's fiance too which makes it an even more complicated situation.There is so much involved here that we have no clue about.What if Tina's finace was cheating with yet another one of Janet's friends....even more complicated.I believe that Janet and Tina may have had some bi-curious behavior during the janet. and TVR era but I dont think that thats what made Janet "not tell".And another thing...Tina's fiance could have been lying to Janet telling her he was gonna stop...and Janet believing him thought he would stop and that if she opened her mouth now she would ruin everything.Theres millions of scenarios and I cannot judge Janet because whatever reason she chose not to tell Tina...she didnt do it to ultimately hurt her,I believe.I would like to say that I wouldve told Tina but if her fiance was my friend too or was cheating with my other friend or her fiance is in my ear with lies...IDK what Id do.
Tina shouldnt have responded at all.To me it makes her look like she had been waiting to say that 4 a while,while Janet looked like she did her best to shield whoever she was talking idenity.
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Reply #68 posted 10/05/07 7:13pm

Scorpion

daPrettyman said:

banks said:




No... I miss her too and i think Janet does too

I miss Janet and Tina on stage together. They have a great chemistry. Besides, Janet's choreography has suffered since Gil has been in charge.

As for Janet not saying anything, I don't blame her. We all must remember, Janet was Tina's employer. If Janet got in that kind of business, it would have been taken to another level.


Above any of that, Tina was Janet's BEST FRIEND...it was more than her just being "the choreographer". They even have the same sankofa tattoo together...they were very tight. I'm sorry, I can't see how any true friend would sit back and watch her best friend MARRY someone she knew was being unfaithful. Tina has every right to her feelings and cutting off ties with Janet. The most disappointing thing is that Janet does not even see any error in what she did. She told Oprah she still would have done it the same way.
tho' I battled blind
love is a fate resigned
memories mar my mind
love it is a fate resigned

Over futile odds
and laughed at by the Gods
and now the final frame
Love is a losing game
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Reply #69 posted 10/05/07 7:25pm

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Scorpion said:

daPrettyman said:


I miss Janet and Tina on stage together. They have a great chemistry. Besides, Janet's choreography has suffered since Gil has been in charge.

As for Janet not saying anything, I don't blame her. We all must remember, Janet was Tina's employer. If Janet got in that kind of business, it would have been taken to another level.


Above any of that, Tina was Janet's BEST FRIEND...it was more than her just being "the choreographer". They even have the same sankofa tattoo together...they were very tight. I'm sorry, I can't see how any true friend would sit back and watch her best friend MARRY someone she knew was being unfaithful. Tina has every right to her feelings and cutting off ties with Janet. The most disappointing thing is that Janet does not even see any error in what she did. She told Oprah she still would have done it the same way.

We can sit here and say Janet is so wrong 4 that but in the end its just our opinion like its Janet's opinion.We dont know what influenced Janet to not tell.And Im not sure but I really dont think Janet didnt tell out of selfish ambition.And the fact that Janet sees nothing wrong with keeping her mouth closed shows that she really didnt seem to have alterior motives in not telling Tina.Maybe she knews Tina better than us.Maybe Tina said shed him up(literally) if she ever found out or something lol but seriously,I know this is a reach but Joseph cheated on Kate and the more I hear this topic brought up at Janet sites and here I wonder if her whole attitude was influenced by that situation and how her mother and the people around her reacted when finding out about Joseph's affairs and child with another woman. shrug Maybe Janet felt that it was less drama with her motuh shut.Im diving deep but I just had a thought and wanted 2 share lol
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Reply #70 posted 10/05/07 7:25pm

Scorpion

I think these lyrics might be more relevant to their situation...

Walked Away
(written by Tina Landon)

Hey Girl, where ya thinkin
When the sun came up that day
You held on to your secret
Not a word slipped away
You thought I’d never find out
Was not your place to say
So the pain kept coming
While you looked the other way

Now, I can’t imagine, can’t comprehend
How you say you love me
Cause baby you’re not my friend

Chorus:
You walked away
You saw me on my knees you looked away
You heard me cryin out you turned away
So how can you be my friend and walk away

Now I see it
what you say is not what you mean
But I’m stronger,
From the days of you and me
It’s my misunderstanding
I thought “4-life”, meant for life
Ooh you proved me wrong
When you walked out of mine

Now, I can’t imagine, can’t comprehend
Did you say you loved me
Cause baby you’re not my friend

Chorus

Bridge:
How could you hold on to, the secret that you knew
I stood right beside you and never had a clue
How could you be so cruel to play me like you do,
I bleed like you
Hey friend tell me again what you meant
When you went behind my back I forget
You could never know the damage you did when you walked away

Repeat Chorus
tho' I battled blind
love is a fate resigned
memories mar my mind
love it is a fate resigned

Over futile odds
and laughed at by the Gods
and now the final frame
Love is a losing game
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Reply #71 posted 10/05/07 7:29pm

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Scorpion said:

daPrettyman said:


I miss Janet and Tina on stage together. They have a great chemistry. Besides, Janet's choreography has suffered since Gil has been in charge.

As for Janet not saying anything, I don't blame her. We all must remember, Janet was Tina's employer. If Janet got in that kind of business, it would have been taken to another level.


Above any of that, Tina was Janet's BEST FRIEND...it was more than her just being "the choreographer". They even have the same sankofa tattoo together...they were very tight. I'm sorry, I can't see how any true friend would sit back and watch her best friend MARRY someone she knew was being unfaithful. Tina has every right to her feelings and cutting off ties with Janet. The most disappointing thing is that Janet does not even see any error in what she did. She told Oprah she still would have done it the same way.



Altho not the same situation this reminds me of a story about Oprah and her friend Gail. Oprah, who was Gail's Maid of Honor, said she knew her husband to be was not the right man for her but didn't say anything because she felt it wasn't her place and she wanted Gail to be happy. Gail didn't learn of this until an interview they did together and she asked 'why didn't you tell me? You knew and you didn't give me your opinion?' Oprah repeated that it wasn't for her to say but supposedly there was a ripple in the friendship because Gail felt that if her friend had a strong feeling that there was something that bothered her about her fiance she should have said something.
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Reply #72 posted 10/05/07 7:32pm

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Scorpion said:

I think these lyrics might be more relevant to their situation...

Walked Away
(written by Tina Landon)

Hey Girl, where ya thinkin
When the sun came up that day
You held on to your secret
Not a word slipped away
You thought I’d never find out
Was not your place to say
So the pain kept coming
While you looked the other way

Now, I can’t imagine, can’t comprehend
How you say you love me
Cause baby you’re not my friend

Chorus:
You walked away
You saw me on my knees you looked away
You heard me cryin out you turned away
So how can you be my friend and walk away

Now I see it
what you say is not what you mean
But I’m stronger,
From the days of you and me
It’s my misunderstanding
I thought “4-life”, meant for life
Ooh you proved me wrong
When you walked out of mine

Now, I can’t imagine, can’t comprehend
Did you say you loved me
Cause baby you’re not my friend

Chorus

Bridge:
How could you hold on to, the secret that you knew
I stood right beside you and never had a clue
How could you be so cruel to play me like you do,
I bleed like you
Hey friend tell me again what you meant
When you went behind my back I forget
You could never know the damage you did when you walked away

Repeat Chorus


Wow. Those lyrics seem like they could be very fitting.
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Reply #73 posted 10/05/07 8:10pm

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Am I the only one who doesn't care about janet or tina? confuse


Smooches;)
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Reply #74 posted 10/05/07 8:32pm

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MsMisha319 said:

Am I the only one who doesn't care about janet or tina? confuse


Smooches;)

probably not...but youre probably the only one who doesnt care about Janet or Tina yet replies in a thread called "Tina Landon responds to Janet's Oprah Statement" rolleyes
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Reply #75 posted 10/05/07 8:33pm

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Scorpion said:

I think these lyrics might be more relevant to their situation...

Walked Away
(written by Tina Landon)

Hey Girl, where ya thinkin
When the sun came up that day
You held on to your secret
Not a word slipped away
You thought I’d never find out
Was not your place to say
So the pain kept coming
While you looked the other way

Now, I can’t imagine, can’t comprehend
How you say you love me
Cause baby you’re not my friend

Chorus:
You walked away
You saw me on my knees you looked away
You heard me cryin out you turned away
So how can you be my friend and walk away

Now I see it
what you say is not what you mean
But I’m stronger,
From the days of you and me
It’s my misunderstanding
I thought “4-life”, meant for life
Ooh you proved me wrong
When you walked out of mine

Now, I can’t imagine, can’t comprehend
Did you say you loved me
Cause baby you’re not my friend

Chorus

Bridge:
How could you hold on to, the secret that you knew
I stood right beside you and never had a clue
How could you be so cruel to play me like you do,
I bleed like you
Hey friend tell me again what you meant
When you went behind my back I forget
You could never know the damage you did when you walked away

Repeat Chorus


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could somebody please ban this girl from ever lifting a pen again. lol
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Reply #76 posted 10/05/07 9:22pm

lowkey

its my rule to stay out of grown folks relationships.janet said she was also friends with the fiance AND she knew the other chick he was cheating with, tina's anger is misplaced, its easy to blame the friend who didnt tell instead of the man who cheated (i doubt tina had absolutely no idea this dude was cheating)....on a sidenote, when did tina landon become a recording artist/songwriter? i hope janet leaned a lesson and stops mixing business with her personal life, she gets to close with her employees.
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Reply #77 posted 10/06/07 8:56am

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PleasurePrinciple said:

MsMisha319 said:

Am I the only one who doesn't care about janet or tina? confuse


Smooches;)

probably not...but youre probably the only one who doesnt care about Janet or Tina yet replies in a thread called "Tina Landon responds to Janet's Oprah Statement" rolleyes


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Reply #78 posted 10/06/07 9:30am

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this what TotalAlisa has to say.... i think that is she was friends with both
Tina and husband... janet should have went to the husband and said you need to tell tina... or I will... therefore making the husband scared...and wanted to confess... so then Janet could have went to tina and told her... "hey i told your husband to tell you he was cheating... because i felt it was not my place to tell you and i felt uncomfortable"....

janet could have atleast done that... and really if someone is my friend and i tell them their husband or boyfriend is cheating and the turn on me... then THEY were never my friend to begin with.. because someone should know that i want the best for them.. and when i tell them something like that.. they need to know its the truth.. and done out of love...

so I would tell.. and don't care if I lose that friend.. because I know i did the right thing... I would want to know if my husband was cheating one me.. and would be hurt if my sister or friend knew and did not tell me... and if i was unsure of what they told me.. i would investigate... and handle the situation
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Reply #79 posted 10/06/07 2:11pm

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TotalAlisa said:

this what TotalAlisa has to say.... i think that is she was friends with both
Tina and husband... janet should have went to the husband and said you need to tell tina... or I will... therefore making the husband scared...and wanted to confess... so then Janet could have went to tina and told her... "hey i told your husband to tell you he was cheating... because i felt it was not my place to tell you and i felt uncomfortable"....

janet could have atleast done that... and really if someone is my friend and i tell them their husband or boyfriend is cheating and the turn on me... then THEY were never my friend to begin with.. because someone should know that i want the best for them.. and when i tell them something like that.. they need to know its the truth.. and done out of love...

so I would tell.. and don't care if I lose that friend.. because I know i did the right thing... I would want to know if my husband was cheating one me.. and would be hurt if my sister or friend knew and did not tell me... and if i was unsure of what they told me.. i would investigate... and handle the situation



First thing you need to realize that Tina wasn't married to Rob.. It was her Fiance not her Husband wink
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Reply #80 posted 10/06/07 3:53pm

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C'mon people, Tina said that she thought it was strange that Janet felt this was the ONLY thing that broke up there friendship. That tells me something else went down.
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Reply #81 posted 10/07/07 7:42am

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banks said:

TotalAlisa said:

this what TotalAlisa has to say.... i think that is she was friends with both
Tina and husband... janet should have went to the husband and said you need to tell tina... or I will... therefore making the husband scared...and wanted to confess... so then Janet could have went to tina and told her... "hey i told your husband to tell you he was cheating... because i felt it was not my place to tell you and i felt uncomfortable"....

janet could have atleast done that... and really if someone is my friend and i tell them their husband or boyfriend is cheating and the turn on me... then THEY were never my friend to begin with.. because someone should know that i want the best for them.. and when i tell them something like that.. they need to know its the truth.. and done out of love...

so I would tell.. and don't care if I lose that friend.. because I know i did the right thing... I would want to know if my husband was cheating one me.. and would be hurt if my sister or friend knew and did not tell me... and if i was unsure of what they told me.. i would investigate... and handle the situation



First thing you need to realize that Tina wasn't married to Rob.. It was her Fiance not her Husband wink


well it goes for husbands, fiances, and boyfriends....

thats serious betrayal if you know someone is hurting your friend.. and you don't tell them... even if it does hurt them...

and janet was probably friend with tina before she became friends with tina's fiance... so therefore she had more loyalty to Tina.... and definitly if it is is someone's fiance... YOU should tell them.. before they waist their time and marry that loser...
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Reply #82 posted 10/07/07 9:12am

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Um..this isn't even about friendship..it's about celebrity.
This Tina bird wants attention..Janet did not mention her
name..& I had no idea it was Tina..I was confused 'bout the
rumours anyway..'cuz I mean Lesbian Tina sleeping with Gay rene??? lol
...Your coochie gonna swell up and fall apart...
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Reply #83 posted 10/07/07 9:54am

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MsMisha319 said:

Am I the only one who doesn't care about janet or tina? confuse


Smooches;)

...that clicked onto the the thread to let us know that you don't care about janet or tina, well probably! lol
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Reply #84 posted 10/07/07 7:17pm

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Martinelli said:

Um..this isn't even about friendship..it's about celebrity.
This Tina bird wants attention..Janet did not mention her
name..& I had no idea it was Tina..I was confused 'bout the
rumours anyway..'cuz I mean Lesbian Tina sleeping with Gay rene??? lol

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Reply #85 posted 10/11/07 5:56pm

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PleasurePrinciple said:

MsMisha319 said:

Am I the only one who doesn't care about janet or tina? confuse


Smooches;)

probably not...but youre probably the only one who doesnt care about Janet or Tina yet replies in a thread called "Tina Landon responds to Janet's Oprah Statement" rolleyes


Love you biggrin

It always kills me when people who claim to dislike/hate someone to reply in a thread where they state they don't like/hate whoever the subject pertains to. And these people be the first one to reply in those topics, and keep on returning. Theres this one thread I made about Grace & MJ in AOL and this hoe kept on coming back telling me how much she don't give a shit.

Ummm.....

I put that mark ass hoe in her place, you know that cool
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Reply #86 posted 10/11/07 7:44pm

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floetcist said:

PleasurePrinciple said:


probably not...but youre probably the only one who doesnt care about Janet or Tina yet replies in a thread called "Tina Landon responds to Janet's Oprah Statement" rolleyes


Love you biggrin

It always kills me when people who claim to dislike/hate someone to reply in a thread where they state they don't like/hate whoever the subject pertains to. And these people be the first one to reply in those topics, and keep on returning. Theres this one thread I made about Grace & MJ in AOL and this hoe kept on coming back telling me how much she don't give a shit.

Ummm.....

I put that mark ass hoe in her place, you know that cool


I really like you wink
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Reply #88 posted 10/14/07 3:06pm

PleasurePrinci
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floetcist said:

PleasurePrinciple said:


probably not...but youre probably the only one who doesnt care about Janet or Tina yet replies in a thread called "Tina Landon responds to Janet's Oprah Statement" rolleyes


Love you biggrin

It always kills me when people who claim to dislike/hate someone to reply in a thread where they state they don't like/hate whoever the subject pertains to. And these people be the first one to reply in those topics, and keep on returning. Theres this one thread I made about Grace & MJ in AOL and this hoe kept on coming back telling me how much she don't give a shit.

Ummm.....

I put that mark ass hoe in her place, you know that cool

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Reply #89 posted 10/14/07 4:02pm

RipHer2Shreds

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jn2 said:


drool3 her ex fiancé must be a dumbf*ck to cheat on her.

i always thought Tina was a lesbian.

Seriously. Girl looks like she's 'bout to throw her tool box in her 16-wheeler and head off to a dykes on bikes rally. But if she was fucking Janet's man Reniqua, makes sense. Girl needed a big old top, and Tina looks the part. I didn't know any of that drama before opening this thread.
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