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Reply #30 posted 10/05/07 7:07am

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& WHY is there a sad face on this thread? confused Are you upset that these 2 aren't talking anymore? Or that dude cheated? Or that Janet's choreography is sucking ass as of late?? hmmm

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Reply #31 posted 10/05/07 7:07am

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& WHY is there a sad face on this thread? confused Are you upset that these 2 aren't talking anymore? Or that dude cheated? Or that Janet's choreography is sucking ass as of late?? hmmm

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Reply #32 posted 10/05/07 7:14am

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CalhounSq said:

& WHY is there a sad face on this thread? confused Are you upset that these 2 aren't talking anymore? Or that dude cheated? Or that Janet's choreography is sucking ass as of late?? hmmm

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Because i feel that Janet's choreography has suffered since Tina's departure and seeing footage of the both of them interacting with each other.. it saddens me that they are no longer friends
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Reply #33 posted 10/05/07 7:18am

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banks said:

CalhounSq said:

& WHY is there a sad face on this thread? confused Are you upset that these 2 aren't talking anymore? Or that dude cheated? Or that Janet's choreography is sucking ass as of late?? hmmm

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Because i feel that Janet's choreography has suffered since Tina's departure and seeing footage of the both of them interacting with each other.. it saddens me that they are no longer friends



This whole thing is good gris for the mill. I feel the same way. I thought Janet and Tina would be thick as thieves forever. Move over Laverne and Shirley... I remember when Janet had a falling out with her friend Melanie years ago over some mess so I thought it was good that she and Tina became buddies.

And yes, I've not been a fan of her choreography since Tina's departure. Tina is badass choreogrpher and dancer herself. Two key pieces of Janet's life and image, gone about the same time. Damn.

About Tina's songs...I can see Blame You is suspect and so are parts of the other song.
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Reply #34 posted 10/05/07 7:34am

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Because i feel that Janet's choreography has suffered since Tina's departure and seeing footage of the both of them interacting with each other.. it saddens me that they are no longer friends



This whole thing is good gris for the mill. I feel the same way. I thought Janet and Tina would be thick as thieves forever. Move over Laverne and Shirley... I remember when Janet had a falling out with her friend Melanie years ago over some mess so I thought it was good that she and Tina became buddies.

And yes, I've not been a fan of her choreography since Tina's departure. Tina is badass choreogrpher and dancer herself. Two key pieces of Janet's life and image, gone about the same time. Damn.

About Tina's songs...I can see Blame You is suspect and so are parts of the other song.[Edited 10/5/07 7:30am]


Yeah... I would bet money on it that "Blame You" is about Janet
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Reply #35 posted 10/05/07 7:36am

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drool3 her ex fiancé must be a dumbf*ck to cheat on her.
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Reply #36 posted 10/05/07 7:44am

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Tina's response

well Normally I would not even attempt to answer this question and you're right it's nobody's business but since she chose to speak on it, YES. I am the 'friend' she spoke of. We obviously have two different perspectives on "friendship". It's interesting to me that she chose to put our parting of ways solely on this matter though.


hmmm

I know there was lots of drama during TVR era.
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Reply #37 posted 10/05/07 7:45am

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Maybe Janet should have had her back, really.

Maybe Tina, Janet or both should not have let a man come between them. I mean, they both complimented each other really well artistically. One should be abit more forgiven to someone who had given them a job and great means of making money with other clients. After all these years, it's sad to let a man still come between them. Damn! The man been gone! Hope they make up soon. But, apparently Landon is STILL PISSED!!!
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Reply #38 posted 10/05/07 7:50am

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banks said:

JackieBlue said:

Juicy!

Is it wrong that I miss Tina? Am I not a good friend to Janet? neutral



No... I miss her too and i think Janet does too

I miss Janet and Tina on stage together. They have a great chemistry. Besides, Janet's choreography has suffered since Gil has been in charge.

As for Janet not saying anything, I don't blame her. We all must remember, Janet was Tina's employer. If Janet got in that kind of business, it would have been taken to another level.
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Reply #39 posted 10/05/07 7:59am

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I understand that you can't always control who you click or fall in love with but it seems Janet gets a little too cozy with her employees. That's always been my thing with her.
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Reply #40 posted 10/05/07 8:09am

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Well, if those songs are directed at Janet, then I'm glad Janet got rid of her! With friends like that you don't really need enemies!
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Reply #41 posted 10/05/07 9:08am

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This is so interesting because, though Janet did not say it was Tina, I instantly thought of her and Robert Vinson. Some have said Janet should have kept her mouth shut, I say Tina should have kept her's shut. Janet didn't mention any names. Tina should not even addressed it.

Anyway, I'm a bit on this fence with whether Janet should have said anything. From what I understood, she and Tina were extremely close....practically like sisters. If I knew my sister's fiance was cheating on her, I can't say I wouldn't say anything, though I typically make concious efforts to stay out of other people's business. If Robert had given Tina some sort of disease, would Janet still had been justified in not telling Tina her fiance was cheating? It's a catch 22 for me. I see both sides.
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Reply #42 posted 10/05/07 10:23am

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Here is the footage of Tina I mentioned a few months back in another thread... I thought I'd never see it again! I will forever love If.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...HSBMuQyzYY
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Reply #43 posted 10/05/07 10:28am

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drool3 her ex fiancé must be a dumbf*ck to cheat on her.
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i always thought Tina was a lesbian.
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Reply #44 posted 10/05/07 11:32am

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Janet is definitely NOT a good friend... I’m serious when i say this... If someone is my friend they are like a brother or sister... I treat them like family... look out for them... and go out my way to help them... even if its sometimes an inconvenience to me..... I do it because I love them... I am a sincere friend and there is NO competition, NO jealousy, NO using someone (because there are many people who will be someone's friend to use them)...
just sincerity... and if i feel like i can't treat that person like a sister or brother... then i just wont be there friend.....

Honestly.. if my sisters or friends husband is cheating he better hide it from me too lol .. because if I catch him... he might end up in the hospital... chair lol lol

my sister or friend would not have to worry about handling the situation.. because i would have already dealt with it.... biggrin

No one cannot hurt my sister or friend fuse .. and I not stand up for them... thats what you do for your sister... I seriously do not understand how janet did that to her friend.... thats seriously messed up...

Janet is almost as guilty as that man.... and NO IT IS NEVER WRONG TO TELL YOUR FRIEND THE TRUTH... because the husband is the one cheating... and telling the person about the betrayal is not breaking up the marriage... its protecting your loved ones....bitchfight
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Reply #45 posted 10/05/07 12:00pm

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Why do I get the feeling he CAME between them?
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Reply #46 posted 10/05/07 12:01pm

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Graycap23 said:

Why do I get the feeling he CAME between them?

meaning he broke up Tina and Janet's lover affiar?
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Reply #47 posted 10/05/07 12:02pm

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Graycap23 said:

Why do I get the feeling he CAME between them?


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Reply #48 posted 10/05/07 12:37pm

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Like I said in another board, It shoulda been a water under the bridge by now,,,,seems that Janet lived with her choice and from what she said, she didn't seem sorry to do it.

Its been 10 years now,,,how long will she suffer and still hold that grudge? And I agree, its not Janet's place to medle between the two even if she knows something, I don't care if you're a friend.

I was foolish enough to step into a situation where I THOUGHT I'd be helping a good friend of mine,,,,,but I lost her, and I def feel where Janet's coming from nod
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Reply #49 posted 10/05/07 12:43pm

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you end up having told the friend what was up and you lose the friend anyway.


Thats EXACTLY what happend to me.
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Reply #50 posted 10/05/07 12:45pm

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TotalAlisa said:

Janet is definitely NOT a good friend... I’m serious when i say this... If someone is my friend they are like a brother or sister... I treat them like family... look out for them... and go out my way to help them... even if its sometimes an inconvenience to me..... I do it because I love them... I am a sincere friend and there is NO competition, NO jealousy, NO using someone (because there are many people who will be someone's friend to use them)...
just sincerity... and if i feel like i can't treat that person like a sister or brother... then i just wont be there friend.....

Honestly.. if my sisters or friends husband is cheating he better hide it from me too lol .. because if I catch him... he might end up in the hospital... chair lol lol

my sister or friend would not have to worry about handling the situation.. because i would have already dealt with it.... biggrin

No one cannot hurt my sister or friend fuse .. and I not stand up for them... thats what you do for your sister... I seriously do not understand how janet did that to her friend.... thats seriously messed up...

Janet is almost as guilty as that man.... and NO IT IS NEVER WRONG TO TELL YOUR FRIEND THE TRUTH... because the husband is the one cheating... and telling the person about the betrayal is not breaking up the marriage... its protecting your loved ones....bitchfight



I can only say from experience that a lot of the times it's not wise to meddle in others relationships... as i stated i made this mistake and told a friend and he and i are no longer friends... you cannot play with affairs of the hearts
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Reply #51 posted 10/05/07 12:46pm

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Well.. I was in Janet's situation once. I told a friend of mine I saw her man cheating on her. In fact, we actually ran-in to the cheater and his other woman at this carnival event.

Believe it or not, my friend got mad at me for telling her!!!!!

I think she was just venting.. and it was easier to get mad at me?? I don't really know--or maybe she didn't want to believe it was true? She never really explained her feelings. We just never spoke about it really..

They broke-up. Well sort it took a while for them to break-up actually. She was still my friend for a long while until I had enough of her shit, and decided to find some new friends.

She was just really a mess. But I don't regret telling her because I sure as heck would want someone to tell me.

That said, I was in a no-win situation.
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Reply #52 posted 10/05/07 12:49pm

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I really think it’s a judgment call. The person who knows what’s going on is in a tough place because they could a) get slammed for not letting the friend know “how could you not tell me?! You’re my best friend, everyone knew but me. I look like a fool!” etc. or;

b) get slammed for saying something—maybe the chick doesn’t want to know or if she doesn’t leave she may be embarrassed or even accuse the friend of lying.

I think it may be a case by case situation.

Tina intimated in her response that this wasn’t the only thing that broke up their friendship. This is more than likely just one of a few things and like I said, the TVR era seemed to be filled with a lot of drama.
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Reply #53 posted 10/05/07 1:08pm

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banks said:

TotalAlisa said:

Janet is definitely NOT a good friend... I’m serious when i say this... If someone is my friend they are like a brother or sister... I treat them like family... look out for them... and go out my way to help them... even if its sometimes an inconvenience to me..... I do it because I love them... I am a sincere friend and there is NO competition, NO jealousy, NO using someone (because there are many people who will be someone's friend to use them)...
just sincerity... and if i feel like i can't treat that person like a sister or brother... then i just wont be there friend.....

Honestly.. if my sisters or friends husband is cheating he better hide it from me too lol .. because if I catch him... he might end up in the hospital... chair lol lol

my sister or friend would not have to worry about handling the situation.. because i would have already dealt with it.... biggrin

No one cannot hurt my sister or friend fuse .. and I not stand up for them... thats what you do for your sister... I seriously do not understand how janet did that to her friend.... thats seriously messed up...

Janet is almost as guilty as that man.... and NO IT IS NEVER WRONG TO TELL YOUR FRIEND THE TRUTH... because the husband is the one cheating... and telling the person about the betrayal is not breaking up the marriage... its protecting your loved ones....bitchfight



I can only say from experience that a lot of the times it's not wise to meddle in others relationships... as i stated i made this mistake and told a friend and he and i are no longer friends... you cannot play with affairs of the hearts


excuse me mister.... Its not meddling.... when someone is hurting my family and friends.... its my place to step in for them....

I don't owe anything to a cheating husband... I owe everything to my sister... because even if i didn't tell her.. she will eventually find out... and leave him... but she will still be my sister... so I OWE my ties to her... and my loyalty to her...

now if my sister or friend is cheating then i will make them tell their husbands... and if she doesn't listen to me.. I will get my big mouth momma to make them.... and thats finale nod
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Reply #54 posted 10/05/07 1:14pm

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Like I said in another board, It shoulda been a water under the bridge by now,,,,seems that Janet lived with her choice and from what she said, she didn't seem sorry to do it.

Its been 10 years now,,,how long will she suffer and still hold that grudge? And I agree, its not Janet's place to medle between the two even if she knows something, I don't care if you're a friend.

I was foolish enough to step into a situation where I THOUGHT I'd be helping a good friend of mine,,,,,but I lost her, and I def feel where Janet's coming from nod
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I'm sorry but I treat people like I would want to be treated. If my man or woman is cheating on me, I would hope my friend would tell me.
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Reply #55 posted 10/05/07 1:20pm

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TotalAlisa said:

banks said:




I can only say from experience that a lot of the times it's not wise to meddle in others relationships... as i stated i made this mistake and told a friend and he and i are no longer friends... you cannot play with affairs of the hearts


excuse me mister.... Its not meddling.... when someone is hurting my family and friends.... its my place to step in for them....

I don't owe anything to a cheating husband... I owe everything to my sister... because even if i didn't tell her.. she will eventually find out... and leave him... but she will still be my sister... so I OWE my ties to her... and my loyalty to her...

now if my sister or friend is cheating then i will make them tell their husbands... and if she doesn't listen to me.. I will get my big mouth momma to make them.... and thats finale nod



I'm not talking about you i'm talking about me meddling... I don't care what you feel is the right or wrong thing to do... I'm just having a conversation with you guys about my experience with this type of situation
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Reply #56 posted 10/05/07 1:23pm

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Well.. I was in Janet's situation once. I told a friend of mine I saw her man cheating on her. In fact, we actually ran-in to the cheater and his other woman at this carnival event.

Believe it or not, my friend got mad at me for telling her!!!!!

I think she was just venting.. and it was easier to get mad at me?? I don't really know--or maybe she didn't want to believe it was true? She never really explained her feelings. We just never spoke about it really..

They broke-up. Well sort it took a while for them to break-up actually. She was still my friend for a long while until I had enough of her shit, and decided to find some new friends.

She was just really a mess. But I don't regret telling her because I sure as heck would want someone to tell me.

That said, I was in a no-win situation.


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..because denial doesnt want to hear the truth.. i also have experienced this.. i told a friend what their lover was doing and ..the friend wouldnt listen.. and the lover caused them all types of grief... . i no longer speak to the friend..

oh.. and it's good you told your friend the truth.. cause 'a real friend' tells the truth.. even when it hurts... in the future when she dwells on the whole matter, she will realize that you WERE a real friend to her during that time...and that you WERE telling her the truth

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Lothan said:

I'm sorry but I treat people like I would want to be treated. If my man or woman is cheating on me, I would hope my friend would tell me.

It depends, if my "man or woman" (like you put it) cheats on me, realizes it was a mistake, wishes it never happened and still loves me and wants to be with me... would I want to know then, that she cheated on me?? I don't think so! Of course it's a different story if it happens all the time and she's just a bitch!

I guess for anyone it's a hard decision and you're kinda damned if you do and damned if you don't!
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Reply #58 posted 10/05/07 1:39pm

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Lothan said:

I'm sorry but I treat people like I would want to be treated. If my man or woman is cheating on me, I would hope my friend would tell me.

It depends, if my "man or woman" (like you put it) cheats on me, realizes it was a mistake, wishes it never happened and still loves me and wants to be with me... would I want to know then, that she cheated on me?? I don't think so! Of course it's a different story if it happens all the time and she's just a bitch!

I guess for anyone it's a hard decision and you're kinda damned if you do and damned if you don't!
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I don't care if it were a mistake. It would be up to me to decide if he or she deserved a second chance...which he or she would not get because I do not tolerate someone cheating on me period. And yes, I would always want to know. Sometimes people who cheat do not protect themselves and bring shit home with them.
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Reply #59 posted 10/05/07 2:00pm

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Graycap23 said:

Why do I get the feeling he CAME between them?

meaning he broke up Tina and Janet's lover affiar?

That or he was their love affair.
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