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Reply #60 posted 10/10/02 10:08pm

Moonbeam

deeplove said:

Madonna is totally UNDERRATED.


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Reply #61 posted 10/10/02 10:09pm

DavidEye

gman1966 said:

DavidEye

I thought you were white, I replied to one of your post once and asked when did you become so interested in black soul music. You responded and then I called you a Blue-eyed soul brother and you replied that your eyes are hazel or gray or something. So you are Black???

I would like to say to everyone that I am not trying to make this racial I started this thread because of all of the Madonna threads that has been created lately.

The simple fact is the MAJORITY of Black people just do not regard Madonna highly like a lot of you people. I like some of her songs "Get Into The Groove" but other than that she is overrated I belong to other boards that are geared toward African-Americans and we do not discuss artists like Madonna she simply does not have that type of appeal in our circle.




Yes,I am Black and as you can see,I am a huge Madonna fan.I also know many other Blacks who admire Madonna,so I guess your "theory" doesn't carry much weight,does it?

"Blue-eyed soul brother",huh? Like I said before ,my eyes are green/hazel wink
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Reply #62 posted 10/10/02 10:11pm

Nep2nes

http://hot.ee/madonnanude...sex033.htm

Trying 2 simulate a gang rape? Y am I not surprised?! omfg

Wow...these pictures give me even more reason 2 dislike her.
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Reply #63 posted 10/10/02 10:12pm

Moonbeam

Nep2nes said:

http://hot.ee/madonnanude/sex_book/sex033.htm

Trying 2 simulate a gang rape? Y am I not surprised?! omfg

Wow...these pictures give me even more reason 2 dislike her.


Why can't you accept this but you can accept the Beatles saying that they were bigger than Jesus? confused
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Reply #64 posted 10/10/02 10:13pm

Thecherryloon

Nep2nes said:

http://hot.ee/madonnanude/sex_book/sex026.htm


And she wonders y people get mad at her. She totally likes 2 take serious things and mock them. She likes 2 borderline on blasphemy, that's y she's popular. I'm sorry, that's the truth.

Madonna has money because of 2 words: shock value.


It's been nearly 10 years since she was remotely "shocking".I never found her shocking anyway.My granny might have done, and a few religious zealots maybe, but people with all their brain cells should see through stuff like that.

It's a game.Her publicist's are top draw stuff.
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Reply #65 posted 10/10/02 10:13pm

DavidEye

Nep2nes said:

http://hot.ee/madonnanude/sex_book/sex033.htm

Trying 2 simulate a gang rape? Y am I not surprised?! omfg

Wow...these pictures give me even more reason 2 dislike her.



So,this is your first time seeing the "Sex" book?

What do you think of the "sandwich" she makes with Big Daddy Kane and Naomi Campbell? wink
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Reply #66 posted 10/10/02 10:16pm

Nep2nes

"Sex with the young can be fun if you're in the mood"

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"...it was probably the most erotic sex I've ever had. But he gave me crabs. That's what you get. So you win some and u you lose some."

Skank!
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Reply #67 posted 10/10/02 10:25pm

PFunkjazz

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DavidEye said:

Nep2nes said:

http://hot.ee/madonnanude/sex_book/sex033.htm

Trying 2 simulate a gang rape? Y am I not surprised?! omfg

Wow...these pictures give me even more reason 2 dislike her.



So,this is your first time seeing the "Sex" book?

What do you think of the "sandwich" she makes with Big Daddy Kane and Naomi Campbell? wink



Actually it's my first time too.
Not that I'm shocked; more like I'm bored
by all the S&M stuff.
I went looking for that pic and didn't see it.
Still I can't imagine a hint of misogynistic
violence in a menage a trois. This rape fantsy
is hers, but it feeds into the "WILDING" mythos
of young urban males. Doesn't help that they
look "non-white", either.
[This message was edited Thu Oct 10 15:27:11 PDT 2002 by PFunkjazz]
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Reply #68 posted 10/10/02 10:27pm

Nep2nes

Moonbeam said:

Nep2nes said:

http://hot.ee/madonnanude/sex_book/sex033.htm

Trying 2 simulate a gang rape? Y am I not surprised?! omfg

Wow...these pictures give me even more reason 2 dislike her.


Why can't you accept this but you can accept the Beatles saying that they were bigger than Jesus? confused


biggrin Moonbeam, u got the story all wrong, dear. hug


John Lennon said that back when they were starting 2 get REALLY famous...in the beginning. He was saying how fickle people r and how funny it was that they now seemed 2 b "bigger than Jesus." He wasn't saying that HE believed they were bigger than Jesus, he was saying how every1 was making it so that they seemed this way, when they were "just a band that wanted 2 make it big."

Some1 resurrected that comment years after he made it. It was some1 who was out 2 trash him.

I think we've found Moonbeam's sensitive subject. sad

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[This message was edited Thu Oct 10 15:28:28 PDT 2002 by Nep2nes]
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Reply #69 posted 10/10/02 11:10pm

gman1966

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DavidEye said:

gman1966 said:

DavidEye

I thought you were white, I replied to one of your post once and asked when did you become so interested in black soul music. You responded and then I called you a Blue-eyed soul brother and you replied that your eyes are hazel or gray or something. So you are Black???

I would like to say to everyone that I am not trying to make this racial I started this thread because of all of the Madonna threads that has been created lately.

The simple fact is the MAJORITY of Black people just do not regard Madonna highly like a lot of you people. I like some of her songs "Get Into The Groove" but other than that she is overrated I belong to other boards that are geared toward African-Americans and we do not discuss artists like Madonna she simply does not have that type of appeal in our circle.



Yes,I am Black and as you can see,I am a huge Madonna fan.I also know many other Blacks who admire Madonna,so I guess your "theory" doesn't carry much weight,does it?

"Blue-eyed soul brother",huh? Like I said before ,my eyes are green/hazel wink


DavidEye, you are definitely a exception to the rule!!!
Any other brothers out there beside Mr.Bryant Gumbel!!!
"Say it Loud - I'm Black and I'm Proud!!!" - Brother James Brown

"Make my funk the P-FUNK...I want my funk uncut...." Brother George Clinton
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Reply #70 posted 10/10/02 11:20pm

gman1966

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Thecherryloon said:

I wouldn't bang the boney bitch!ill



damn right!!!
"Say it Loud - I'm Black and I'm Proud!!!" - Brother James Brown

"Make my funk the P-FUNK...I want my funk uncut...." Brother George Clinton
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Reply #71 posted 10/11/02 12:25am

AaronForever

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zzz wake me for the next weekly episode of the Madonna debate. so not into it this time. biggrin
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Reply #72 posted 10/11/02 12:38am

misschestylaru
e

davideye I grew up in the south bronx. I don't think that you can get more ethnic then that, and there were not many brothers running around talking about how madonna was or is the shit. they were and are more in love with janet jackson. No matter what you say. you are in the minority in the black community if you say that madonna is is finer then janet. janet is the the madonna for the black community. we mostly leave her to the white community, and you must be crazy if you are going to deny janet her beauty in favor for madonna because it is just not happening. and davideye I thought that I remember you saying that you were white.
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Reply #73 posted 10/11/02 12:51am

AaronForever

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misschestylarue said:

davideye I grew up in the south bronx. I don't think that you can get more ethnic then that, and there were not many brothers running around talking about how madonna was or is the shit. they were and are more in love with janet jackson. No matter what you say. you are in the minority in the black community if you say that madonna is is finer then janet. janet is the the madonna for the black community. we mostly leave her to the white community, and you must be crazy if you are going to deny janet her beauty in favor for madonna because it is just not happening. and davideye I thought that I remember you saying that you were white.



the fact that you say "janet is the madonna for the black community" says quite a lot about the 2 of them.
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Reply #74 posted 10/11/02 1:00am

misschestylaru
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what do you mean?
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Reply #75 posted 10/11/02 1:02am

AaronForever

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misschestylarue said:

what do you mean?



as the quotable Liz Phair once said "Madonna is the speedboat. The rest of us are just GoGo's on waterskis."
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Reply #76 posted 10/11/02 1:05am

misschestylaru
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remember janet was on good times and different stokes so we have been looking at janet a lot longer, and ever since then people thought she was fine especially different stokes.
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Reply #77 posted 10/11/02 1:39am

Moonbeam

misschestylarue said:

remember janet was on good times and different stokes so we have been looking at janet a lot longer, and ever since then people thought she was fine especially different stokes.


Personally, I think Janet is finer than anyone, but Madonna is right up there too.
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Reply #78 posted 10/11/02 1:40am

Moonbeam

Nep2nes said:

Moonbeam said:

Nep2nes said:

http://hot.ee/madonnanude/sex_book/sex033.htm

Trying 2 simulate a gang rape? Y am I not surprised?! omfg

Wow...these pictures give me even more reason 2 dislike her.


Why can't you accept this but you can accept the Beatles saying that they were bigger than Jesus? confused


biggrin Moonbeam, u got the story all wrong, dear. hug


John Lennon said that back when they were starting 2 get REALLY famous...in the beginning. He was saying how fickle people r and how funny it was that they now seemed 2 b "bigger than Jesus." He wasn't saying that HE believed they were bigger than Jesus, he was saying how every1 was making it so that they seemed this way, when they were "just a band that wanted 2 make it big."

Some1 resurrected that comment years after he made it. It was some1 who was out 2 trash him.

I think we've found Moonbeam's sensitive subject. sad

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[This message was edited Thu Oct 10 15:28:28 PDT 2002 by Nep2nes]


What? The Beatles?
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Reply #79 posted 10/11/02 2:09am

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misschestylarue said:

remember janet was on good times and different stokes so we have been looking at janet a lot longer, and ever since then people thought she was fine especially different stokes.



were people really looking at janet like *THAT* on Good Times? ick.
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Reply #80 posted 10/11/02 3:42am

misschestylaru
e

AaronForever said:

misschestylarue said:

remember janet was on good times and different stokes so we have been looking at janet a lot longer, and ever since then people thought she was fine especially different stokes.



were people really looking at janet like *THAT* on Good Times? ick.

yes they were she was young and so was most of the little boys who thought she was cute on the show. I'm not talking about r kelly style.
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Reply #81 posted 10/11/02 4:49am

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misschestylarue said:

davideye I grew up in the south bronx. I don't think that you can get more ethnic then that, and there were not many brothers running around talking about how madonna was or is the shit. they were and are more in love with janet jackson. No matter what you say. you are in the minority in the black community if you say that madonna is is finer then janet. janet is the the madonna for the black community. we mostly leave her to the white community, and you must be crazy if you are going to deny janet her beauty in favor for madonna because it is just not happening. and davideye I thought that I remember you saying that you were white.



THANK YOU!!!
"Say it Loud - I'm Black and I'm Proud!!!" - Brother James Brown

"Make my funk the P-FUNK...I want my funk uncut...." Brother George Clinton
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Reply #82 posted 10/11/02 5:03am

Natasha

I remember reading somewhere that they wanted people to guess at Guess if she was a Black singer or White singer. They puposely kept her picture off of her first single and wanted listeners to think she was black. Funny in the beginning she looked Hispanic. It wasn't until was it Burning Up that we all got to see what she looked like in a video. Borderline she looked Hispanic with her Hispanic Jelly Bean Benetiz type boyfriend in the video. Madonna was definitely Marketed right from the Beginning and her first shows at Radio City were so different to Madonna today. Madonna has changed and become extremely Cultivated into Pop's Princess. The Grace Kelly of POP.
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Reply #83 posted 10/11/02 7:42am

DavidEye

misschestylarue said:

davideye I grew up in the south bronx. I don't think that you can get more ethnic then that, and there were not many brothers running around talking about how madonna was or is the shit. they were and are more in love with janet jackson. No matter what you say. you are in the minority in the black community if you say that madonna is is finer then janet. janet is the the madonna for the black community. we mostly leave her to the white community, and you must be crazy if you are going to deny janet her beauty in favor for madonna because it is just not happening. and davideye I thought that I remember you saying that you were white.



This is such a tired debate,but here goes...


First of all,I NEVER said I was White! I don't know where you people get this from.I guess I'll have to start posting my pic in my profile,since there seems to be so much confusion...lol...

Secondly,I NEVER said that Janet wasn't beautiful!! I think she is gorgeous.But why are we even discusssing their beauty anyway? I'm more interested in ARTISTRY and the music.When it comes to music,I simply prefer Madonna and it doesn't really have anything to do with race.
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Reply #84 posted 10/11/02 1:11pm

DavidEye

gman1966 said:

DavidEye said:

gman1966 said:

DavidEye

I thought you were white, I replied to one of your post once and asked when did you become so interested in black soul music. You responded and then I called you a Blue-eyed soul brother and you replied that your eyes are hazel or gray or something. So you are Black???

I would like to say to everyone that I am not trying to make this racial I started this thread because of all of the Madonna threads that has been created lately.

The simple fact is the MAJORITY of Black people just do not regard Madonna highly like a lot of you people. I like some of her songs "Get Into The Groove" but other than that she is overrated I belong to other boards that are geared toward African-Americans and we do not discuss artists like Madonna she simply does not have that type of appeal in our circle.



Yes,I am Black and as you can see,I am a huge Madonna fan.I also know many other Blacks who admire Madonna,so I guess your "theory" doesn't carry much weight,does it?

"Blue-eyed soul brother",huh? Like I said before ,my eyes are green/hazel wink


DavidEye, you are definitely a exception to the rule!!!
Any other brothers out there beside Mr.Bryant Gumbel!!!



Oh,I get it.If you're a Black person who likes a White artist like Madonna,you're automatically an "Uncle Tom/Bryant Gumbel" type,right? Your logic would be laughable if it weren't so darn pathetic.
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Reply #85 posted 10/11/02 4:17pm

AaronForever

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DavidEye said:

gman1966 said:

DavidEye said:

gman1966 said:

DavidEye

I thought you were white, I replied to one of your post once and asked when did you become so interested in black soul music. You responded and then I called you a Blue-eyed soul brother and you replied that your eyes are hazel or gray or something. So you are Black???

I would like to say to everyone that I am not trying to make this racial I started this thread because of all of the Madonna threads that has been created lately.

The simple fact is the MAJORITY of Black people just do not regard Madonna highly like a lot of you people. I like some of her songs "Get Into The Groove" but other than that she is overrated I belong to other boards that are geared toward African-Americans and we do not discuss artists like Madonna she simply does not have that type of appeal in our circle.



Yes,I am Black and as you can see,I am a huge Madonna fan.I also know many other Blacks who admire Madonna,so I guess your "theory" doesn't carry much weight,does it?

"Blue-eyed soul brother",huh? Like I said before ,my eyes are green/hazel wink


DavidEye, you are definitely a exception to the rule!!!
Any other brothers out there beside Mr.Bryant Gumbel!!!



Oh,I get it.If you're a Black person who likes a White artist like Madonna,you're automatically an "Uncle Tom/Bryant Gumbel" type,right? Your logic would be laughable if it weren't so darn pathetic.



don't mind him, DavidEye. he's got a one track mind. see the blue-eyed soul thread. he throws out this "cultural difference" argument as if it's supposed to be the final word, instead of realizing there are people with a different, valid opinions from different cultural backgrounds. his cultural background is the only one that's supposed to matter, i guess. Madonna is not hot because she's not hot to most black men. White people can't be soul singers. You get the idea...
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Reply #86 posted 10/11/02 4:23pm

PFunkjazz

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AaronForever said:


Madonna is not hot because she's not hot to most black men. White people can't be soul singers. You get the idea...



I don't like her music but I'd do her in a minute.

boff2

All women of consenting age sexy
regardless of race, creed or color,
have the right to be treated like a slut.

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Reply #87 posted 10/11/02 4:42pm

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PFunkjazz said:

AaronForever said:


Madonna is not hot because she's not hot to most black men. White people can't be soul singers. You get the idea...



I don't like her music but I'd do her in a minute.

boff2

All women of consenting age sexy
regardless of race, creed or color,
have the right to be treated like a slut.

fro


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Reply #88 posted 10/11/02 5:03pm

Moonbeam

AaronForever said:

DavidEye said:

gman1966 said:

DavidEye said:

gman1966 said:

DavidEye

I thought you were white, I replied to one of your post once and asked when did you become so interested in black soul music. You responded and then I called you a Blue-eyed soul brother and you replied that your eyes are hazel or gray or something. So you are Black???

I would like to say to everyone that I am not trying to make this racial I started this thread because of all of the Madonna threads that has been created lately.

The simple fact is the MAJORITY of Black people just do not regard Madonna highly like a lot of you people. I like some of her songs "Get Into The Groove" but other than that she is overrated I belong to other boards that are geared toward African-Americans and we do not discuss artists like Madonna she simply does not have that type of appeal in our circle.



Yes,I am Black and as you can see,I am a huge Madonna fan.I also know many other Blacks who admire Madonna,so I guess your "theory" doesn't carry much weight,does it?

"Blue-eyed soul brother",huh? Like I said before ,my eyes are green/hazel wink


DavidEye, you are definitely a exception to the rule!!!
Any other brothers out there beside Mr.Bryant Gumbel!!!



Oh,I get it.If you're a Black person who likes a White artist like Madonna,you're automatically an "Uncle Tom/Bryant Gumbel" type,right? Your logic would be laughable if it weren't so darn pathetic.



don't mind him, DavidEye. he's got a one track mind. see the blue-eyed soul thread. he throws out this "cultural difference" argument as if it's supposed to be the final word, instead of realizing there are people with a different, valid opinions from different cultural backgrounds. his cultural background is the only one that's supposed to matter, i guess. Madonna is not hot because she's not hot to most black men. White people can't be soul singers. You get the idea...


You said it perfectly, Aaron!
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Reply #89 posted 10/12/02 1:42am

gman1966

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Moonbeam said:

AaronForever said:

DavidEye said:

gman1966 said:

DavidEye said:

gman1966 said:

DavidEye

I thought you were white, I replied to one of your post once and asked when did you become so interested in black soul music. You responded and then I called you a Blue-eyed soul brother and you replied that your eyes are hazel or gray or something. So you are Black???

I would like to say to everyone that I am not trying to make this racial I started this thread because of all of the Madonna threads that has been created lately.

The simple fact is the MAJORITY of Black people just do not regard Madonna highly like a lot of you people. I like some of her songs "Get Into The Groove" but other than that she is overrated I belong to other boards that are geared toward African-Americans and we do not discuss artists like Madonna she simply does not have that type of appeal in our circle.



Yes,I am Black and as you can see,I am a huge Madonna fan.I also know many other Blacks who admire Madonna,so I guess your "theory" doesn't carry much weight,does it?

"Blue-eyed soul brother",huh? Like I said before ,my eyes are green/hazel wink


DavidEye, you are definitely a exception to the rule!!!
Any other brothers out there beside Mr.Bryant Gumbel!!!



Oh,I get it.If you're a Black person who likes a White artist like Madonna,you're automatically an "Uncle Tom/Bryant Gumbel" type,right? Your logic would be laughable if it weren't so darn pathetic.



don't mind him, DavidEye. he's got a one track mind. see the blue-eyed soul thread. he throws out this "cultural difference" argument as if it's supposed to be the final word, instead of realizing there are people with a different, valid opinions from different cultural backgrounds. his cultural background is the only one that's supposed to matter, i guess. Madonna is not hot because she's not hot to most black men. White people can't be soul singers. You get the idea...


You said it perfectly, Aaron!


No you are that's pathetic Bryant Gumbel, liking is one thing but jocking that ho you do is weak!!!
"Say it Loud - I'm Black and I'm Proud!!!" - Brother James Brown

"Make my funk the P-FUNK...I want my funk uncut...." Brother George Clinton
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