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Thread started 09/17/07 3:44am

DarlingDiana

MJ new LP 2 b as big as Thriller; Michael+Janet tour a possibility

Jackson plan his comeback
Singer is talking about a new album and tour

September 17, 2007
BY BILL ZWECKER Sun-Times Columnist

As stories fly about how troubled entertainers like Lindsay Lohan, Britney Spears or Tom Sizemore will stage attempts at career comebacks, I'm hearing another tarnished star is quietly strategising his return to centre stage.

None other than Michael Jackson has been meeting with a series of music industry insiders and promoters regarding a major new album and international concert tour to promote it - possibly by the end of 2008 or early 2009.

A long-time Jackson associate told this column Friday, "This is something Michael is carefully planning. I think the album is going to be amazing. From what I've heard, it will be as big as 'Thriller' - and yet will take his music in a new direction to appeal to new, younger fans - but will still have those Michael touches his traditional fans love."

Apparently, Janet Jackson and some of Michael's brothers possibly will be involved, including doing duets with him on a number of tracks. "Can you imagine what a sensation it would be if Michael and Janet toured together," said the source, teasingly. "That is something that's being discussed."

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Reply #1 posted 09/17/07 3:58am

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Nothing will be as big as Thriller! That was a once in a lifetime deal. Anyways. Isn't Mike's new album supposed to be released digitally on the internet? I smell a flop coming....
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Reply #2 posted 09/17/07 4:05am

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Reply #3 posted 09/17/07 4:39am

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Thriller? eek

How in the world is any album ever going to sell 60 million copies? In 1982 we had people buying the Album or Cassette. Then in the mid 1980's rebuying all your old stuff on CD. Then put another "special edtion". All because of that sold 60 million copies. Now in 2007 you just download off the internet for "free" or one friend buys it and uses a mp3 ripper, then burn free copies to your friends. MJ couldn't sell his last album even though he had $30 Million worth of promotion & $35 Million of production.

As for a Tour, MJ couldnt even sell out the Victory Tour. They gave tickets away for free to make it appear kinda filled. That was at his peak! I saw Janet in 2001 in a 20,000 seater and it was less then 1/2 filled. We had crappy seats, as soon as we walked in the usher brought everyone to the floor seats.

Janet will cover him from totally failing in America. He will do ok around the world, I guess it is a decent plan to ride Janet's Fame.
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Reply #4 posted 09/17/07 4:54am

DarlingDiana

ElectricBlue said:

Thriller? eek

How in the world is any album ever going to sell 60 million copies? In 1982 we had people buying the Album or Cassette. Then in the mid 1980's rebuying all your old stuff on CD. Then put another "special edtion". All because of that sold 60 million copies. Now in 2007 you just download off the internet for "free" or one friend buys it and uses a mp3 ripper, then burn free copies to your friends. MJ couldn't sell his last album even though he had $30 Million worth of promotion & $35 Million of production.

As for a Tour, MJ couldnt even sell out the Victory Tour. They gave tickets away for free to make it appear kinda filled. That was at his peak! I saw Janet in 2001 in a 20,000 seater and it was less then 1/2 filled. We had crappy seats, as soon as we walked in the usher brought everyone to the floor seats.

Janet will cover him from totally failing in America. He will do ok around the world, I guess it is a decent plan to ride Janet's Fame.

eek
60 million copies? eek
MJ couldn't sell his last album? eek
Janet's fame? eek eek

Thriller has sold over 100 million copies.
Invincible sold 11.2 million copies.
Janet's fame? eek eek eek

The Jacksons may not have sold out every concert of the Victory tour. But Michael sold out the Bad tour, Dangerous tour and HIStory tour. In terms of record sales, 1984 was his peak. But in terms of ticket sales, 1996-97 was his peak.

You are kidding yourself if you think Michael couldn't sell out stadiums these days and has to tour with Janet to do so. IF Michael and Janet are touring together, it's because they are family and want to share the experience together. It's got shit all to do with using the other to get ticket sales.

You have no clue.
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Reply #5 posted 09/17/07 5:20am

motownlover

another thriller. well why dont we ask mj to enter the olympics of being and finish with the top 3 . i dont think anything of this article is true
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Reply #6 posted 09/17/07 5:58am

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I believe it when I hear it and I can´t wait to hear it.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #7 posted 09/17/07 5:59am

LightOfArt

DarlingDiana said:


eek
60 million copies? eek
MJ couldn't sell his last album? eek
Janet's fame? eek eek

Thriller has sold over 100 million copies.
Invincible sold 11.2 million copies.
Janet's fame? eek eek eek

The Jacksons may not have sold out every concert of the Victory tour. But Michael sold out the Bad tour, Dangerous tour and HIStory tour. In terms of record sales, 1984 was his peak. But in terms of ticket sales, 1996-97 was his peak.

You are kidding yourself if you think Michael couldn't sell out stadiums these days and has to tour with Janet to do so. IF Michael and Janet are touring together, it's because they are family and want to share the experience together. It's got shit all to do with using the other to get ticket sales.

You have no clue.


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Reply #8 posted 09/17/07 6:05am

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He needs to get overe thriller like somebody said that was a once in a lifetime experiece and he is only setting himself up as dissappointment.

And I don't see the tour happening
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Reply #9 posted 09/17/07 7:04am

Rodya24

First of all, I hope Michael Jackson does not pull another Thriller. It happens once a lifetime; moreover, he is almost 50.

All in all, cool news. The source that you cited is not nearly as tarnished as Fox News. I hope the person the article quoted was exaggerating about the Thriller part, but was honest about how good the album sounds.

Yeah, and ElectricBlue: sad to your comment on Michael depending on the fame of Janet Jackson. I will have you know that in most parts of the world, she is known as the sister of Michael Jackson, nothing more. nod
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Reply #10 posted 09/17/07 7:29am

VoicesCarry

Janet and Michael will never tour together.
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Reply #11 posted 09/17/07 7:32am

VoicesCarry

Rodya24 said:

I will have you know that in most parts of the world, she is known as the sister of Michael Jackson, nothing more. nod


Janet has sold over 50 million albums outside of the US. She has mounted successful world tours many times. The rest of the world knows who she is. Even if you don't appreciate her work.
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Reply #12 posted 09/17/07 7:42am

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I dont believe this article is Real..and people are on Crack if they think ANY new album will outsell thriller !
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Reply #13 posted 09/17/07 7:53am

Rodya24

VoicesCarry said:

Rodya24 said:

I will have you know that in most parts of the world, she is known as the sister of Michael Jackson, nothing more. nod


Janet has sold over 50 million albums outside of the US. She has mounted successful world tours many times. The rest of the world knows who she is. Even if you don't appreciate her work.
[Edited 9/17/07 7:35am]


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Wow. I have had to defend myself from the Janet fans quite often in the past week. I will write it again: I love for the most part her singles. I want both her and her brother to succeed commercially and musically in the upcoming year.

But let us be honest: Janet Jackson is primarily a US and Japan act.
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Reply #14 posted 09/17/07 7:57am

Rodya24

prettymansson said:

I dont believe this article is Real..and people are on Crack if they think ANY new album will outsell thriller !


Well, the link works, and it does connect one to the Chicago Sun-Times.

I agree with you. No album will outsell Thriller. I am not singling out Michael Jackson in writing this; it is just common sense. Even the albums by the hot new acts (Rihanna, Beyonce, Justin Timberlake) with all the promotion those receive are not selling much when compared to sales a decade ago.
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Reply #15 posted 09/17/07 8:12am

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VoicesCarry said:

Rodya24 said:

I will have you know that in most parts of the world, she is known as the sister of Michael Jackson, nothing more. nod


Janet has sold over 50 million albums outside of the US.


absolutely not
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Reply #16 posted 09/17/07 8:50am

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oooh its like watching a train crash.....
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Reply #17 posted 09/17/07 8:56am

Rodya24

silverchild said:

Nothing will be as big as Thriller! That was a once in a lifetime deal. Anyways. Isn't Mike's new album supposed to be released digitally on the internet? I smell a flop coming....



As for the digital release -- that was what will.i.am (or whatever his name is) said. I believe Michael never confirmed it. It would be awesome if instead of putting out a bad album, he got all the Jacksons albums remastered and released never-before-heard tracks from Thriller-Bad-Dangerous-HIStory-Invincible recording sessions. That would make me so HAPPY.
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Reply #18 posted 09/17/07 8:59am

VoicesCarry

Martinelli said:

VoicesCarry said:



Janet has sold over 50 million albums outside of the US.


absolutely not


Yes, she has.

Why is it always the Madonna fans that have the problem? lol
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Reply #19 posted 09/17/07 9:00am

VoicesCarry

Rodya24 said:


But let us be honest: Janet Jackson is primarily a US and Japan act.


nod True now. Not true in the past.
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Reply #20 posted 09/17/07 9:01am

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I think the album is going to be amazing. From what I've heard, it will be as big as 'Thriller'


spit Yeah right!

Forget platinum, MJ will be lucky to go copper!

His Thriller days are LONG GONE and he will never be able to recapture the 80s. He's done. Only HE thinks he's still relevant in the music game and that's a damn shame.
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Reply #21 posted 09/17/07 9:03am

Rodya24

MuthaFunka said:

I think the album is going to be amazing. From what I've heard, it will be as big as 'Thriller'


spit Yeah right!

Forget platinum, MJ will be lucky to go copper!

His Thriller days are LONG GONE and he will never be able to recapture the 80s. He's done. Only HE thinks he's still relevant in the music game and that's a damn shame.



That is just fanatics speculating about Thriller sales.

Whether or not this new album is good, it will sell at least one million. If Janet Jackson could do it with Damita Jo and 20 YO, Michael Jackson can do it.
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Reply #22 posted 09/17/07 9:04am

Rodya24

VoicesCarry said:

Martinelli said:



absolutely not


Yes, she has.

Why is it always the Madonna fans that have the problem? lol



Are you combining studio album and singles sales?
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Reply #23 posted 09/17/07 9:04am

VoicesCarry

Rodya24 said:

MuthaFunka said:



spit Yeah right!

Forget platinum, MJ will be lucky to go copper!

His Thriller days are LONG GONE and he will never be able to recapture the 80s. He's done. Only HE thinks he's still relevant in the music game and that's a damn shame.



That is just fanatics speculating about Thriller sales.

Whether or not this new album is good, it will sell at least one million. If Janet Jackson could do it with Damita Jo and 20 YO, Michael Jackson can do it.


Michael will easily sell a million in the US, probably 10 million worldwide. He is one of the few remaining stars that possesses a truly global fanbase.
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Reply #24 posted 09/17/07 9:05am

Rodya24

VoicesCarry said:

Rodya24 said:


But let us be honest: Janet Jackson is primarily a US and Japan act.


nod True now. Not true in the past.



nod Okay, I am going to grudgingly agree with you. biggrin
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Reply #25 posted 09/17/07 9:05am

VoicesCarry

Rodya24 said:

VoicesCarry said:



Yes, she has.

Why is it always the Madonna fans that have the problem? lol



Are you combining studio album and singles sales?


No. Combined she has sold about 130 million albums and singles worldwide. The janet. album sold nearly 20 million copies alone, so I don't see why people have such a hard time believing that Janet has sold records in the past, even if she has had a harder time doing so recently. lol
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Reply #26 posted 09/17/07 9:05am

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Sounds like more spin and gossip but if there is any truth to it all, if I were Janet, I would worry about my damn self.
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Reply #27 posted 09/17/07 9:06am

Rodya24

VoicesCarry said:

Rodya24 said:




Are you combining studio album and singles sales?


No. Combined she has sold about 130 million albums and singles worldwide.



eek

Move over Whitney, Mariah, and Celine.

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Reply #28 posted 09/17/07 9:07am

VoicesCarry

Rodya24 said:

VoicesCarry said:



No. Combined she has sold about 130 million albums and singles worldwide.



eek

Move over Whitney, Mariah, and Celine.

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Oh, all those girls have sold more.
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Reply #29 posted 09/17/07 9:08am

Rodya24

VoicesCarry said:

Rodya24 said:




eek

Move over Whitney, Mariah, and Celine.

biggrin


Oh, all those girls have sold more.


eek

Even Celine?

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