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Thread started 08/28/07 11:19pm

DarlingDiana

will.i.am drops new MJ album details

On KIIS FM radio, will.i.am revealed some new information about MJ's new album. He has done four songs with Michael. Two of them were writing by will.i.am, one was written by Michael and one was a joint effort between the two of them. Not all four song titles have been revealed but according to Rolling Stone and a German interview with will.i.am, two of the will-produced songs are called "I'm Dreamin'" and "The Future". More than likely, these two songs are the songs that were heard in the Access Hollywood interview conducted last November. "I'm Dreamin'" is the mellow beat with crisp guitars and "The Future" is the "futuristic" sounding beat that MJ danced to.

This may not seem like a whole lot of information, but it does tell us alot. It tells us that will.i.am is not the lead producer on this album. He's only produced 4 songs with Mike. There is no way he is the lead producer. It seems more likely that Mike has done 3 or 4 songs each with will.i.am, Teddy Riley and Darkchild, making a standard album's length of tracks. Which means the lead producer is probably Mike as he will most likely credit himself as executive producer.

That being said, there is still no indication of when the album is coming out. Michael has scheduled more studio sessions with will.i.am in November. So I don't think the album will be out by the end of the year. But I seriously think it's not long until the album is released. I'm giving it until March 2008. That seems like a likely date.

Also, although I hate to admit it, I think Madonna has scared Michael away from releasing his album too soon. I think Michael is holding off until after she releases her album and the hype dies down. He doesn't want to compete with her. That's why I think March 08 is the date. Madonna will be irrelevant than. Her album will die well before the end of this year (if the release date is october). So Mike should be safe with March next year.
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Reply #1 posted 08/28/07 11:33pm

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DarlingDiana said:

Also, although I hate to admit it, I think Madonna has scared Michael away from releasing his album too soon. I think Michael is holding off until after she releases her album and the hype dies down. He doesn't want to compete with her. That's why I think March 08 is the date. Madonna will be irrelevant than. Her album will die well before the end of this year (if the release date is october). So Mike should be safe with March next year.





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Reply #2 posted 08/28/07 11:38pm

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CHIC0 said:

DarlingDiana said:

Also, although I hate to admit it, I think Madonna has scared Michael away from releasing his album too soon. I think Michael is holding off until after she releases her album and the hype dies down. He doesn't want to compete with her. That's why I think March 08 is the date. Madonna will be irrelevant than. Her album will die well before the end of this year (if the release date is october). So Mike should be safe with March next year.





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Reply #3 posted 08/28/07 11:39pm

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Why should Mike be worried at all about Madonna? It's 2007 not 1987. Plus their audience, is totally different. While of course they are both huge pop icons, Madonna ain't selling to the black crowd like Mike is.


Also, isn't Janets album gonna drop probably early 2008 and I know he doesn’t want to take sell away from lil sis, or the other way around.
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Reply #4 posted 08/28/07 11:46pm

DarlingDiana

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Why should Mike be worried at all about Madonna? It's 2007 not 1987. Plus their audience, is totally different. While of course they are both huge pop icons, Madonna ain't selling to the black crowd like Mike is.


Also, isn't Janets album gonna drop probably early 2008 and I know he doesn’t want to take sell away from lil sis, or the other way around.

Michael wants to dominate. He wants to top every chart and saturate the market. He may fear that he wont be able to do that with a new Madonna album on the shelves. As for Janet. The only hope she has of having a successful album is if it's a free bonus disc that comes with Michael's new album.
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Reply #5 posted 08/28/07 11:48pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Why should Mike be worried at all about Madonna? It's 2007 not 1987. Plus their audience, is totally different. While of course they are both huge pop icons, Madonna ain't selling to the black crowd like Mike is.


Also, isn't Janets album gonna drop probably early 2008 and I know he doesn’t want to take sell away from lil sis, or the other way around.




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Reply #6 posted 08/29/07 4:18am

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CHIC0 said:

DarlingDiana said:

Also, although I hate to admit it, I think Madonna has scared Michael away from releasing his album too soon. I think Michael is holding off until after she releases her album and the hype dies down. He doesn't want to compete with her. That's why I think March 08 is the date. Madonna will be irrelevant than. Her album will die well before the end of this year (if the release date is october). So Mike should be safe with March next year.





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Reply #7 posted 08/29/07 4:38am

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DarlingDiana said:

On KIIS FM radio, will.i.am revealed some new information about MJ's new album. He has done four songs with Michael. Two of them were writing by will.i.am, one was written by Michael and one was a joint effort between the two of them. Not all four song titles have been revealed but according to Rolling Stone and a German interview with will.i.am, two of the will-produced songs are called "I'm Dreamin'" and "The Future". More than likely, these two songs are the songs that were heard in the Access Hollywood interview conducted last November. "I'm Dreamin'" is the mellow beat with crisp guitars and "The Future" is the "futuristic" sounding beat that MJ danced to.

This may not seem like a whole lot of information, but it does tell us alot. It tells us that will.i.am is not the lead producer on this album. He's only produced 4 songs with Mike. There is no way he is the lead producer. It seems more likely that Mike has done 3 or 4 songs each with will.i.am, Teddy Riley and Darkchild, making a standard album's length of tracks. Which means the lead producer is probably Mike as he will most likely credit himself as executive producer.

That being said, there is still no indication of when the album is coming out. Michael has scheduled more studio sessions with will.i.am in November. So I don't think the album will be out by the end of the year. But I seriously think it's not long until the album is released. I'm giving it until March 2008. That seems like a likely date.

Also, although I hate to admit it, I think Madonna has scared Michael away from releasing his album too soon. I think Michael is holding off until after she releases her album and the hype dies down. He doesn't want to compete with her. That's why I think March 08 is the date. Madonna will be irrelevant than. Her album will die well before the end of this year (if the release date is october). So Mike should be safe with March next year.




First of all,you don't seriously believe that this album will be released in March 2008,do you? lol

secondly,why would the so-called "King Of Pop" fear Madonna? If he's as wonderful as you say he is,why should he be afraid of a little competition? hmmm
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Reply #8 posted 08/29/07 5:05am

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what is your source , i dont reconize all the details from that interview realy
and i dont think there is a song called the future , but will.i.am said he want to work with mj in the future ,
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Reply #9 posted 08/29/07 5:10am

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We're on the verge of September. March 08 sounds ambitious.

As for Madonna scaring MJ away... I doubt Madonna thinks about MJ before she releases an album and neither should Michael. Forget about world domination and just drop an album already.
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Reply #10 posted 08/29/07 5:15am

DarlingDiana

JackieBlue said:

We're on the verge of September. March 08 sounds ambitious.

As for Madonna scaring MJ away... I doubt Madonna thinks about MJ before she releases an album and neither should Michael. Forget about world domination and just drop an album already.

It just seems strange that months ago Bain was saying Michael is putting finishing touches on the album and plans to have 3-4 singles out by the end of the year. But since news has come out about Madonna's new album being released in October, suddenly Mike is back in the studio in November.
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DarlingDiana said:

JackieBlue said:

We're on the verge of September. March 08 sounds ambitious.

As for Madonna scaring MJ away... I doubt Madonna thinks about MJ before she releases an album and neither should Michael. Forget about world domination and just drop an album already.

It just seems strange that months ago Bain was saying Michael is putting finishing touches on the album and plans to have 3-4 singles out by the end of the year. But since news has come out about Madonna's new album being released in October, suddenly Mike is back in the studio in November.


I wouldn't be surprised if that's why but I don't believe that Bain woman. She's good for telling us what's not true, not what is. So many artists can give you the info right from their mouths but with Michael we always have to hear it through the grapevine. neutral
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Reply #12 posted 08/29/07 5:35am

DarlingDiana

motownlover said:

what is your source , i dont reconize all the details from that interview realy
and i dont think there is a song called the future , but will.i.am said he want to work with mj in the future ,


Here is a quote from the KIIS interview about how many song will and Mike have done...

Ryan: What have you done so far with him?
Will: We probably did like 3, 4 songs.
Ryan: Are they finished?
Will: Two of them are.
Ryan: What are they like? When are they coming out? Tell us.
Will: See I don't know when he's gonna put them out. That's up to him. It's his project. You know?
Ryan: But they're done and it's up to him?
Will: I'd put them out tomorrow. But I dunno dude. He'd probably be like, kinda angry.


and

Ryan: Are the songs about his life?
Will: No, no. They're just feel good joints. Really feel good songs.
Co-host: Did you write them together? Did he write them? Did you write them?
Will: Um, a little bit of both. I wrote two songs, then he wrote one song and then we wrote one song together.



About Will and Mike working together in November...

This interview was publish in German, so the translation is a bit off.
Source: jetzt.de/SZ & JAM-FC; Translation by MJFC JAM www.mjfc-jam.com

SZ: Your opinion as a businessman: Can the new Michael-Jackson album at which they collaborate become a success? Will it ever appear at all?

WILL.i.am: I already think that it will appear. But to all other one: no comment. The deal between Michael Jackson and me is very simple: I come into the studio to him if he calls me. There already are further studio dates, we see each other again in the studio in November. He is super cool. Just like Prince.


Will.i.am also said on Korean radio that one of the songs he has worked on with Mike is "The Future". I don't know if that's the title of the song or a mis-translation of Will saying the music if futuristic or will set the standards in music for the future. Source: http://www.mjjforum.com/f...opic=88865

The title "I'm Dreamin'" comes from a Rolling Stone article. I will get back to once I find a scan or something of the article.

Anything else you want a source for?
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Reply #13 posted 08/29/07 5:41am

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I also don´t understand the Madonna comment but thanks for the info.
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Reply #14 posted 08/29/07 5:49am

DarlingDiana

dag said:

I also don´t understand the Madonna comment but thanks for the info.

It's just a theory. Michael doesn't want his album on the market at the same time as Madonna's. That's why he is holding back.
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Reply #15 posted 08/29/07 5:56am

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dag said:

I also don´t understand the Madonna comment but thanks for the info.

It's just a theory. Michael doesn't want his album on the market at the same time as Madonna's. That's why he is holding back.

How do you know that he doesn´t want it?
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #16 posted 08/29/07 5:58am

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DarlingDiana said:

JackieBlue said:

We're on the verge of September. March 08 sounds ambitious.

As for Madonna scaring MJ away... I doubt Madonna thinks about MJ before she releases an album and neither should Michael. Forget about world domination and just drop an album already.

It just seems strange that months ago Bain was saying Michael is putting finishing touches on the album and plans to have 3-4 singles out by the end of the year. But since news has come out about Madonna's new album being released in October, suddenly Mike is back in the studio in November.


Obviously some people still don't get How Mj works? right after Mj released BAD he started to work on a new album that became the Dangerous album , Mj already recorded dozens of songs for the new album , the ones he did with Will.I.am will not Necessarily will make the final cut, he still can drop the album and work on the other songs , maybe new single will drop in November and a month later the album comes out during that time he would have the time to finish the whole record,Madonna is no competition to Mj...and it never bothered Mj, briney spears released her album a week after invinicble , britney was comnsidered one of the hottest pop stars back in 2001.....Mj is not scared of anyone when it comes to release music ...LOL
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Reply #17 posted 08/29/07 6:02am

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Instead of worrying about how well the album and the singles will do commercially, we should talk about the new single when it comes out. And it looks like it will be several months before we hear new music. Until then, DarlingDiana and other Michael Jackson fans seem to be on top of the rumor mill, and can keep us informed. biggrin
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Reply #18 posted 08/29/07 6:05am

DarlingDiana

Sorry all about the Madonna comment. I just thought there must be a reason for the delay, so I threw that theory out in to the open. I'm not saying Madonna is a competition for Michael. I'm not saying I personally spoke to Michael and he told me he is shit scared of Madonna. I'm just saying it might be a reason for the delay.
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Reply #19 posted 08/29/07 6:08am

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If Michael released his new album in September, it would be a Top ten, with two or three millions sold durin September-October...
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Reply #20 posted 08/29/07 6:12am

DarlingDiana

JoeTyler said:

If Michael released his new album in September, it would be a Top ten, with two or three millions sold durin September-October...

Why September? Why would it not be a top ten hit in October of any other month? I don't get it.
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Reply #21 posted 08/29/07 6:15am

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DarlingDiana said:

JoeTyler said:

If Michael released his new album in September, it would be a Top ten, with two or three millions sold durin September-October...

Why September? Why would it not be a top ten hit in October of any other month? I don't get it.


wink I mean, if he released the new album NOW, I mean, in September, which is the closest thing to "now" lol wink I don't understand why he has to wait till 2008 if he has the album finished confused
Nevertheless, September is a classic month for major releases wink
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Reply #22 posted 08/29/07 6:20am

DarlingDiana

JoeTyler said:

DarlingDiana said:


Why September? Why would it not be a top ten hit in October of any other month? I don't get it.


wink I mean, if he released the new album NOW, I mean, in September, which is the closest thing to "now" lol wink I don't understand why he has to wait till 2008 if he has the album finished confused
Nevertheless, September is a classic month for major releases wink

You're right about September being prime time for major releases. But as much I would love to hear the new MJ album NOW, I don't want him to rush him. If the album isn't the best it can possibly be now, then he shouldn't release it just yet. However, I am sure that the November sessions with will.i.am will be his last for this album. Meaning the album will be finished in November/December. Also remember he doesn't have a label at the moment. He's got a lot of deals to negotiate before the album is released. It could be months between the time he finishes his album and the time he has signed contracts to get it released.
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Reply #23 posted 08/29/07 6:26am

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DarlingDiana said:

JoeTyler said:



wink I mean, if he released the new album NOW, I mean, in September, which is the closest thing to "now" lol wink I don't understand why he has to wait till 2008 if he has the album finished confused
Nevertheless, September is a classic month for major releases wink

You're right about September being prime time for major releases. But as much I would love to hear the new MJ album NOW, I don't want him to rush him. If the album isn't the best it can possibly be now, then he shouldn't release it just yet. However, I am sure that the November sessions with will.i.am will be his last for this album. Meaning the album will be finished in November/December. Also remember he doesn't have a label at the moment. He's got a lot of deals to negotiate before the album is released. It could be months between the time he finishes his album and the time he has signed contracts to get it released.


Sometimes I wonder if he has still the energy/passion/confidence to do that, especially after all that he has gone through during the last five-four years...
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Reply #24 posted 08/29/07 6:31am

Rodya24

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DarlingDiana said:


You're right about September being prime time for major releases. But as much I would love to hear the new MJ album NOW, I don't want him to rush him. If the album isn't the best it can possibly be now, then he shouldn't release it just yet. However, I am sure that the November sessions with will.i.am will be his last for this album. Meaning the album will be finished in November/December. Also remember he doesn't have a label at the moment. He's got a lot of deals to negotiate before the album is released. It could be months between the time he finishes his album and the time he has signed contracts to get it released.


Sometimes I wonder if he has still the energy/passion/confidence to do that, especially after all that he has gone through during the last five-four years...


Good point. To be honest, I would like for him to release unreleased tracks, b-sides, demos, and unfinished tracks from the '60s to '00s. He has quite a lot of material in his vault which a number of people have not heard. And I would also like the Destiny, Triumph, Victory, and Bad Tours to be released on DVD. Include The Jackson Variety Show in there as well. Why is he being so stubborn?
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Reply #25 posted 08/29/07 6:32am

DarlingDiana

JoeTyler said:

DarlingDiana said:


You're right about September being prime time for major releases. But as much I would love to hear the new MJ album NOW, I don't want him to rush him. If the album isn't the best it can possibly be now, then he shouldn't release it just yet. However, I am sure that the November sessions with will.i.am will be his last for this album. Meaning the album will be finished in November/December. Also remember he doesn't have a label at the moment. He's got a lot of deals to negotiate before the album is released. It could be months between the time he finishes his album and the time he has signed contracts to get it released.


Sometimes I wonder if he has still the energy/passion/confidence to do that, especially after all that he has gone through during the last five-four years...

I think he definately does. To me he seems really driven. He seems focused. Apart from a couple of award ceremonies and the odd film premiere or stage show/concert when have we seen Michael in the last two years? He's been busy. He hasn't been out in the public staging PR-stunts or anything. It seems like he has been very busy churning out great music and making an awesome new album.
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Reply #26 posted 08/29/07 6:35am

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DarlingDiana said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Why should Mike be worried at all about Madonna? It's 2007 not 1987. Plus their audience, is totally different. While of course they are both huge pop icons, Madonna ain't selling to the black crowd like Mike is.


Also, isn't Janets album gonna drop probably early 2008 and I know he doesn’t want to take sell away from lil sis, or the other way around.

Michael wants to dominate. He wants to top every chart and saturate the market. He may fear that he wont be able to do that with a new Madonna album on the shelves. As for Janet. The only hope she has of having a successful album is if it's a free bonus disc that comes with Michael's new album.

Opinions! Opinions! I think allot of people get turned on sexually when it comes to disrespecting Janet. It's like a real kick and thrill. What the hell ever! None of us truly knows how any of their albums will fair. Michael Jackson shouldn't be worried about Madonna. True none of them sells albums like they use to. I think he should be worried about her IF she had the biggest selling album of all time, which she did not. See, it isn't to take away from the success that she's had, but damn! She's not GOD Almight!
As for Janet, no one knows how successful or unsuccessful her next cd will be the same as the previous two I've just mentioned. Unless, of course there is something in the entertainment industry by design to cause her to fail. She's had stumbling blocks in her pathway. I'm a realist. I'm not in denial. It's true. Why don't we all see how all three albums will turn out as oppose to shittin' on one artist to uplift another. Quite childish!
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Reply #27 posted 08/29/07 6:35am

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DarlingDiana said:

JoeTyler said:



Sometimes I wonder if he has still the energy/passion/confidence to do that, especially after all that he has gone through during the last five-four years...

I think he definately does. To me he seems really driven. He seems focused. Apart from a couple of award ceremonies and the odd film premiere or stage show/concert when have we seen Michael in the last two years? He's been busy. He hasn't been out in the public staging PR-stunts or anything. It seems like he has been very busy churning out great music and making an awesome new album.


If that is true, then great! But if I were you, I would not get my hopes up too high before hearing the inevitable track leak. I think nothing will be for certain until Michael Jackson announces a final release date.
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Reply #28 posted 08/29/07 6:35am

DarlingDiana

Rodya24 said:

JoeTyler said:



Sometimes I wonder if he has still the energy/passion/confidence to do that, especially after all that he has gone through during the last five-four years...


Good point. To be honest, I would like for him to release unreleased tracks, b-sides, demos, and unfinished tracks from the '60s to '00s. He has quite a lot of material in his vault which a number of people have not heard. And I would also like the Destiny, Triumph, Victory, and Bad Tours to be released on DVD. Include The Jackson Variety Show in there as well. Why is he being so stubborn?

I don't know why there is so much unreleased music that Michael has kept quite. But I think, concerning the tours, that Michael is holding out for a huge, massive deal. He's waiting for someone to come along and offer him millions for the rights to the tour footage so they can release it on DVD. He has full rights to excellent quality footage of all his tours and he is not giving that up for anything. He is holding onto those rights until the right offer comes around.
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Reply #29 posted 08/29/07 6:38am

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DarlingDiana said:

motownlover said:

what is your source , i dont reconize all the details from that interview realy
and i dont think there is a song called the future , but will.i.am said he want to work with mj in the future ,


Here is a quote from the KIIS interview about how many song will and Mike have done...




About Will and Mike working together in November...

This interview was publish in German, so the translation is a bit off.
Source: jetzt.de/SZ & JAM-FC; Translation by MJFC JAM www.mjfc-jam.com

SZ: Your opinion as a businessman: Can the new Michael-Jackson album at which they collaborate become a success? Will it ever appear at all?

WILL.i.am: I already think that it will appear. But to all other one: no comment. The deal between Michael Jackson and me is very simple: I come into the studio to him if he calls me. There already are further studio dates, we see each other again in the studio in November. He is super cool. Just like Prince.


Will.i.am also said on Korean radio that one of the songs he has worked on with Mike is "The Future". I don't know if that's the title of the song or a mis-translation of Will saying the music if futuristic or will set the standards in music for the future. Source: http://www.mjjforum.com/f...opic=88865

The title "I'm Dreamin'" comes from a Rolling Stone article. I will get back to once I find a scan or something of the article.

Anything else you want a source for?



no but i think the title the future is a wrongly translated , i had a page that was in broken english and the entire story was weirdly written ,
and about the songs we heard on access hollywood , its hard for me to say how i feel about them, i didnt heard michaels voice on them . but i kinda liked the mellow beat and the one where will.i.am said it has off the wall kinda strings

the last one i dont know if i like that one though

but did that interview say anything about t riley and r jerkins? i cant recall it
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