totaldiva said: Justin Tiberlake lost his "ghetto pass" when he let Janet Jackson take the fall for something they shared equal participation in, MTV blacklists Janet (claiming the songs were not that good, as if anything else played on MTV are masterpieces), yet promotes Justin Timberlake heavily. His cd was good due to Timberlands beats, In my opinion, it was a not only a sexist but also racist situation. I really doubt the uproar would have been the same had it been Madonna, or Britney Spears in the same position. Justin knew he had lost many Black fans and when his last album came out, that was when he decided to finally admit that he let Janet take the fall (trying to regain his "ghetto pass") He is doing no more than what Elvis did in the 50's, mimic Black artist, utilize the R and b sound and bring it to the masses as he is some type of innovator. The public falls for this generation after generation.
she who should not be mentioned took tons of heat for SEX, so much so she only did three cities in the US during the Girlie Show. oh and she was smart enough to do her controverisal performaces, VMAs 84 and 2004 on cable tv. had Janet done the same thing on the VMA's vs the Superbowl the uproar wouldn't have been as much. [Edited 8/27/07 23:00pm] You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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jaimestarr79 said:
You have to give he respect for what he does. Do people have a problem with him being a white R&B singer? Apparently you've never heard of Teena Marie, The Average White Band, or KC and the Sunshine Band. Those were great white R&B entertainers. There aren't many true R&B singers that can out sing him.
But what instruments does he play or even have other people play for him on his music? Singing is boring as hell without good music behind it. Hell, I don't even care if you can sing or not if you got some good funk behind it. Vanity 6 is an excellent example of that. And there definitely aren't many performers that can out dance him.
And what does dancing have to do with being an R&B singer/entertainer. It should be about the music first, like it used to be. Everyone these days has a stage full of dancers to take up space on the stage of where the instruments used to be. Hell, I want to see a concert, not a damn choreographed Broadway production. If I want to see a Broadway production, I'll go see "Rent" or "Hair". Andy is a four letter word. | |
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That still does not answer why janet caught the heat, and Justin got off scott free. If you punish one, you punish all parties involved. i do not believe in double standards. MTV are the last people to be appointed the morality police. Besides, I have seen more skin on All My Children. Give me a break. Superbowl was a great distraction from a war that we were falsely entered in. it didnt help that it was election year and all of a sudden, this country has morals. "POOR IS THE MAN WHO'S PLEASURES DEPEND ON THE PERMISSION OF ANOTHER" Madonna
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And you also fail to remember, janet did not act alone. The last time i tivo'ed the situation, it was justin's hand ripping off her top During the lyric "gonna have you naked by the end of this song". Janets boob didnt pop out on its own, it had a hand. "POOR IS THE MAN WHO'S PLEASURES DEPEND ON THE PERMISSION OF ANOTHER" Madonna
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He is success unfairly outweights his talent and Lewis Taylor had to retire from the game. | |
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vainandy said: jaimestarr79 said:
You have to give he respect for what he does. Do people have a problem with him being a white R&B singer? Apparently you've never heard of Teena Marie, The Average White Band, or KC and the Sunshine Band. Those were great white R&B entertainers. But what instruments does he play or even have other people play for him on his music? Singing is boring as hell without good music behind it. Hell, I don't even care if you can sing or not if you got some good funk behind it. Vanity 6 is an excellent example of that. And there definitely aren't many performers that can out dance him.
And what does dancing have to do with being an R&B singer/entertainer. It should be about the music first, like it used to be. Everyone these days has a stage full of dancers to take up space on the stage of where the instruments used to be. Hell, I want to see a concert, not a damn choreographed Broadway production. If I want to see a Broadway production, I'll go see "Rent" or "Hair". Thank you vain. I mentioned awb,hall & oates, and dino for blue eyed soul earlier.I should have my ass kicked for forgetting about lady t. Don't laugh at my funk
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I don't have a problem with his music. In fact, i think he does his pop thing very well as a solo artist. I just take issue with how he left Janet hanging out to dry after the superbowl incident. Made him punk in my book. Not more or less.
I'm not the type to turn off the tv when I see him, or spend time dissing him, but as a result of his actions toward J.J. I really don't see myself buying music or really supporting it in any way. Evah. I just don't like punk ass lil' boys, that's all | |
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jaimestarr79 said: Who in the industry has a better voice singing live. I heard Usher live in concert and his voice is terrible. There isn't much to choose from in Today's music scene.
I have seen Timberlake in concert. He does not fare well live.There only few other true artists that are Currently on the Scene: Anthony Hamilton musiq Angie Stone Donell Jones raheem Devaughn Mint condition and a couple of others | |
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And Timberlake is NOT an R&B singer. There is zero soul in his voice. | |
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I like his beats a lot, but that's because I love timbaland and the neptunes, and could hear the mj, prince and george michael influences and attempts in the music. I can't stand him as a person at all though, and it upsets me that people in their teens and 20's can't see through that and think he's all original | |
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He does not have much talent. | |
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totaldiva said: And you also fail to remember, janet did not act alone. The last time i tivo'ed the situation, it was justin's hand ripping off her top During the lyric "gonna have you naked by the end of this song". Janets boob didnt pop out on its own, it had a hand.
and it was Janet who order and paid for the BreakAway Leather Bustier speically designed by her, to included a cup that was only held in place by snaps so it could easily be removed. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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jaimestarr79 said: I never said JT was cool, I just said he had talent.
What performer can out dance him? Nobody answered this question. I asked who is the better right now that is current? No answers. Timberland has made alot of careers. Without Timberland there would of been no AAliyah, Ginuwine, Magoo, Missy elliot, etc. All Current artist are just performers. Only a handful write and produce their own music ( Anthony Hamilton, Musiq, B. Mcknight) Look at Beyonce who has people creating complete songs where she just shows up for a couple of hours to lay some vocals and next thing she has finished a CD. Look at JayZ. If it weren't for Kanye west and swiss beats he would have no hit records. He used to have good raps but his songs would be nothing without those classic beats he uses. U obviously don't have Aaliyah or Jay Z's first albums. Aaliyah was NOT made by Timbaland. Actually R Kelly was the one that groomed her from the start. Jay Z had a hit with 'Ain't No Nigga' & pretty much invented Kanye West & Swizz Beats. | |
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It's not about hatin. If he were a nobody auditioning for American Idol, Simon would bust on him real bad. | |
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ehuffnsd said: totaldiva said: And you also fail to remember, janet did not act alone. The last time i tivo'ed the situation, it was justin's hand ripping off her top During the lyric "gonna have you naked by the end of this song". Janets boob didnt pop out on its own, it had a hand.
and it was Janet who order and paid for the BreakAway Leather Bustier speically designed by her, to included a cup that was only held in place by snaps so it could easily be removed. And Im quite sure Justin knew how that costume was made when he ripped off her top. So what are you saying. You have no argument in this matter. Both parties are guilty, yet one took the punishment. Point blank. I am sure there was a dress rehersal before the telecast, so you point is what? "POOR IS THE MAN WHO'S PLEASURES DEPEND ON THE PERMISSION OF ANOTHER" Madonna
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ppl still fightin over this? lol
who knows what really went down....but it does seem like janet got the bitter end of the deal.justin was crying about this on mtv a while back.he needs to stop it. altho i mean u didnt know your woredrobe would malfunction and everyone would see your titty.but u just happen to be wearing your nipple jewelery that day? | |
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