Who do u think has witten and produced better material for the artist they've worked with.Who is BADDER then who?











I DIDNT MEAN TO TURN YOU ON!!!!

shouldn't it be L.A. and Babyface versus Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis?


or are you strictly referring to Babyface's solo productions (without LA Reid)?

Jam and Lewis hands down.

I like them both, and refuse to compare...




Jam and Lewis...without doubt.

I prefer Jam and Lewis. I'm not dissing on Face and LA, but Jam and Lewis' work has stood the test of time (for the most part). The SOS Band, Force MD's, Janet, Alexander O'neal, Human League,etc. These songs sound just as good today as they did 20 years ago.

There's absolutely no comparison. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis' early work such as The SOS Band, Change, Cheryl Lynn, Captain Rapp, Thelma Houston, and even Janet Jackson's "Control" and "Rhythm Nation" pissed all up and down the majority of Babyface's weak ass adult contemporary shit. Babyface should have kept his dull ass in The Deele where he was much better.

Unfortunately, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis became shit hop sellout embarrasments in the 1990s but their early work was great.
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Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis!

I prefer Jam and Lewis because they were more diverse as producers. Jam and Lewis had a unique sound for every artist they had produced during their heyday.

Can I choose Gamble & Huff.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

NOPE....They were the originals, but u have 2 pick between Jam and Lewis OR Babyface.

JAM & LEWIS! OHHHHH YAEH

LittleBLUECorvette said:

ahhhhh!!!!

Norman Whitfield and Barrett Strong



But seriously Jam & Lewis over L.A. and Face ANY DAMN DAY OF THE WEEK!

I'll go against the crowd and pick LaFace; however, I love them both.

I love both. It's a draw for me. I think though other than Janet Jackson, Jam & Lewis hits are not as mainstreamed on the pop or AC charts as much as Baby's. It's been pretty much back and forth. Look at Boyz 2 Men for example. They were getting hit after hit and it was because of Baby's and J&L's songs mostly. But like I said, DRAW!

LoDog said:

other than janet Jimmy and Terry have produced hits for many artist like

Klymaxx
The SOS Band
New Edition
Boyz II Men
Michael Jackson
Yolanda
Gwen Stefani
Trina
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mimi07 said:

Most of those artists are not good examples. Michael Jackson, Gwen Stefani, Trina and Yolanda were produced after Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis' commercial peak from the mid-1980s to mid-1990s and it's not like they produced what I would call "essential" material for MJ and Stefani. The stuff Jam and Lewis did for Klymaxx is also a case of name-dropping more than producing any memorable stuff.

I know this is a Prince-dedicated site so most of the love automatically will go to Jam and Lewis. As much as I love Jam and Lewis, I would say that Babyface (both as a partner with L.A. Reid and by himself) trumped them. 'Face helped launched an impressive list of hit songs (typically their songs reached No. 1 on the soul charts and top 10 on the pop charts) and helped launch the careers of a lot of artists and/or made them big stars -- Toni Braxton, Bobby Brown, TLC, Pebbles and After 7 immediately come to mind.

I also will say that 'Face ("End of the Road," "I'll Make Love to You," "Water Runs Dry" and "A Song for Momma") has much more of a claim to Boyz II Men's success than Jam and Lewis ("On Bended Knee") do. I will say LaFace and Jam and Lewis split success on Johnny Gill (LaFace - "My, My, My," "Fairweather Friend, "Let's Get the Mood Right;" J&L - "Rub You the Right Way," "Wrap My Body Tight," "The Floor").
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They both had their moments of chart domination. I prefer Jam & Lewis' craft and legacy. But I also am a fan of Mr. Edmonds'.

they're both great writers, but I'm going to have to go with jimmy and terry.

DOn't Be Cruel >> Heartbreak

so Laface

I prefer Jam & Lewis. Their sound was so fresh. They took the industry by storm. No one could duplicate what they were doing at the time(Although Loose Ends came close)My problem with Laface is that when they split up, Babyface admitted in an interview that he did all of the songwriting while LA Reid just laid down the drum tracks. So to me they were'nt really a songwriting team. But no disrespect to them though. They did come out with some good music.

I'll have to pick LA and Babyface.

I like Jam and Lewis' early work ("I Didn't Mean To Turn You On" by Cherelle is their best production,imo) but by the end of the 80s,I was bored with their sound.I didn't really care for any of their 90s work.

I prefer those late-80s/early-90s LaFace hits that dominated the radio (Toni Braxton's first album...."I'm Ready" and "Can We Talk" by Tevin Campbell..."Love Makes Things Happen" by Pebbles and Face,etc).Also,Babyface is a credible solo artist in his own right.His 1989 solo album 'Tender Lover' is excellent.He was creating amazing music for himself,too.

daPrettyman said:

Good point. Jam and Lewis's music has aged better than LAFace.

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mimi07 said:

I agree with you.Babyface is no joke.Also,he proved that he cold make great music even without LA Reid.Look at all the cool songs he produced after he stopped working with LA ("Take A Bow" by Madonna...."Water Runs Dry" by Boys II Men..."There's No Me Without You" by Toni Braxton..."Let It Flow" by Toni Braxton).He clearly didn't need a partner.

Najee said:

I respectfully disagree. A fairer comparison of Jam and Lewis's work should be compared to LAFace and not solely on Babyface. Jam and Lewis have over 50 top 10 R&B hits as well as an impressive list of pop hits from Janet Jackson, Human League, Michael Jackson, Karyn White, Jordan Knight and Mariah Carey. Boyz II Men were discovered by Mike Bivins of New Edition and Jam and Lewis produced New Edition's masterpiece "Heartbreak".

Back in 2001, Jam and Lewis were the #2 Pop Producers of all time: http://www.encyclopedia.c...23510.html

I think it's impressive though that Face was able to continue making great music even after the partnership ended.He proved that he didn't really need LA Reid.

SoulAlive said:

face didn't make great music after LA Reid, i am sorry but La was the bread and butter of the uptempo jams,

qvgangsta18 said:

Are you tellin' me that his subsequent productions with Madonna,Tevin Campbell,Toni Braxton,Boys II Men,Gladys Knight,etc, are no good?